Summer Transfer Temps and Journeymen

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I read somewhere that Leeds might be a loan option for Saliba? That’d be a great move for him, if we’re serious about it - Bielsa would certainly get him fired up and ready for the league! Thought they did a great job with Ben White last year.

[selassie]

Yeah it’s money we will just have to write off. Really makes you reflect on how poor and misjudged the recruitment has been, players hardly ever seem to appreciate in value with us now, feels like we’re always left with crap we can’t even give away.

Yep our squad is in really poor shape, we have a lot of garbage in it, players on huge wages who nobody wants to touch, we literally can’t give these players away.

Meanwhile Liverpool sell an a academy graduate who has never played in PL for 23 million.

Its going to take us a while to get out of this horrible mess.

[I am invisible]

I remember a couple of months ago Arteta was talking about having plans, and backup plans, and backup-backup plans for almost every scenario this summer, so it’s either really positive or really fucking worrying that we haven’t heard anything about other targets yet?!

[Gooner23]

Jorginho incoming :ilt:

[selassie]

:lol: Aulas on top form, I see!

I mean, sure, there’s always a chance a deal will collapse whenever we’re involved, but it won’t be because we’ve missed some deadline that Aulas has set - if an offer comes in that he likes, he still sells.

Haven’t they already signed Aouar’s replacement? And didn’t he recently say they had to sell two out of Aouar, Depay and the Jeff?

Classic Aulas, the entertainer, the attention seeker! I think it will still go through, Aulas is just having his moment.

[selassie]

I remember a couple of months ago Arteta was talking about having plans, and backup plans, and backup-backup plans for almost every scenario this summer, so it’s either really positive or really fucking worrying that we haven’t heard anything about other targets yet?!

Honestly think it will be Jorginho on loan, that worries me and kind of makes me think Arteta doesn’t fully know what he is doing, I dunno...it scares me that we are continually linked to him.

I’ve not given up on Aouar just yet, we are dealing with Aulas, he is known for this and did this when we were buying Laca. Basically Aulas will try and milk you for every little bit he can.

[I am invisible]

Yep our squad is in really poor shape, we have a lot of garbage in it, players on huge wages who nobody wants to touch, we literally can’t give these players away.

Meanwhile Liverpool sell an a academy graduate who has never played in PL for 23 million.

Its going to take us a while to get out of this horrible mess.
Homegrown players will always sell (Walcott, Ox, Iwobi, etc, plus we had plenty of interest in AMN and Holding this summer) - it’s the NHGs that are the problem. When they’re on big wages they’re almost impossible to shift.

Thankfully, this should be the last year we have to put up with it - 90% of the problem players are out the door next summer whether they like it or not.

I’m sure I also read somewhere that the EPL are deferring this year’s rules on balancing accounts until next summer because of COVID, so that might give us some leeway to overspend this year knowing that a number of players will definitely be gone next summer?

[Gooner23]

Possibly, according to greatest rumours we are some way off their asking price though. And with no significant sales looking likely it's not promising.

The weird thing about the Jorginho rumour is that is nothing like Partey or Aouar. Just a right footed Xhaka. No thanks.

[I am invisible]

Honestly think it will be Jorginho on loan, that worries me and kind of makes me think Arteta doesn’t fully know what he is doing, I dunno...it scares me that we are continually linked to him.

I’ve not given up on Aouar just yet, we are dealing with Aulas, he is known for this and did this when we were buying Laca. Basically Aulas will try and milk you for every little bit he can.
I just don’t get that Jorginho link at all. Our primary midfield targets (Aouar and Partey) have been absolutely spot on, so how can Jorginho possibly be the backup option? He’s not even close to being a similar player to either of those two, so it would represent a complete and total change of whatever plan we had for this year.

[I am invisible]

Possibly, according to greatest rumours we are some way off their asking price though. And with no significant sales looking likely it's not promising.

The weird thing about the Jorginho rumour is that is nothing like Partey or Aouar. Just a right footed Xhaka. No thanks.
Yeah, exactly! I just don’t get it - It doesn’t make sense.

[I am invisible]

Classic Aulas, the entertainer, the attention seeker! I think it will still go through, Aulas is just having his moment.
Let’s put it this way - if the deal doesn’t happen it will be because we can’t afford it, not because Aulas has set some arbitrary deadline that we didn’t meet.

[Marc Overmars]

Could be an eventful deadline for sure. I just hope we can shift all the rubbish and streamline the squad.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54404308

Old Man Cavani joining Man Utd.

[selassie]

Homegrown players will always sell (Walcott, Ox, Iwobi, etc, plus we had plenty of interest in AMN and Holding this summer) - it’s the NHGs that are the problem. When they’re on big wages they’re almost impossible to shift.

Thankfully, this should be the last year we have to put up with it - 90% of the problem players are out the door next summer whether they like it or not.

I’m sure I also read somewhere that the EPL are deferring this year’s rules on balancing accounts until next summer because of COVID, so that might give us some leeway to overspend this year knowing that a number of players will definitely be gone next summer?

oh I agree, the thing is our homegrown actually contribute to our team and are no worse than the garbage NHG we have all over the squad. Mikel has a massive rebuild on his hands, him & Edu are the focus now, they know what they have to do and I don’t care how they do it, no excuses.

[Marc Overmars]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54404308

Old Man Cavani joining Man Utd.

Rashford, Martial and Greenwood are quality. I suppose he’s better cover than Ighalo but it seems like a signing for the sake of it to me.

[Ralpheroo72]

We ain’t bringing anyone in. Can’t afford Partey or Aouar, and there’s no way the chavs will entertain Jorginho moving to Arsenal. Elneny it is then

[selassie]

We ain’t bringing anyone in. Can’t afford Partey or Aouar, and there’s no way the chavs will entertain Jorginho moving to Arsenal. Elneny it is then

If our squad stays as it is then I think we are finishing anywhere between 8th-12th. I’m not being dramatic here, it’s what I genuinely think given the improvement of certain teams in PL.

Also, surely we can’t have spent all summer pursuing players we can’t afford?

[Mac76]

If our squad stays as it is then I think we are finishing anywhere between 8th-12th. I’m not being dramatic here, it’s what I genuinely think given the improvement of certain teams in PL.

Also, surely we can’t have spent all summer pursuing players we can’t afford?

it's as much about Arteta's use of the squad as it is the quality - if he keeps playing Xhaka instead of Ceballos and Luiz instead of Gabriel and having players like Saka warming the bench then yes it's gonna be a shit season

over to you Mikel...

[hobson's choice]

Oh well, things are back to normal, we fail to take advantage off an opportunity for a sure fire top 4 finish. I was actually optimistic.

Back to not caring. Let's get ready to watch more Xhaka masterclass performances

[Chippy]

If our squad stays as it is then I think we are finishing anywhere between 8th-12th. I’m not being dramatic here, it’s what I genuinely think given the improvement of certain teams in PL.

Also, surely we can’t have spent all summer pursuing players we can’t afford?
Crap.
https://www.justarsenal.com/arsenal-need-to-move-on-as-aouar-decides-to-stay-at-lyon/260025

[I am invisible]

it's as much about Arteta's use of the squad as it is the quality - if he keeps playing Xhaka instead of Ceballos and Luiz instead of Gabriel and having players like Saka warming the bench then yes it's gonna be a shit season

over to you Mikel...
Yeah, if the players he wants don’t come in then we’re going to have to be a little braver with what we have at some point. I totally get the safety formation in the short-term as we looked to steady the ship, calm nerves and restore a bit of confidence, but we can’t go through a whole season playing 343 - it’s not bold enough, and opponents will eventually start to suss it out.

Everything hinges on finding a defensive pairing who are comfortable in a back 2. Not only do we need that extra attacking midfielder to add creativity through the middle, that player would also reduce the need for the CF to keep dropping deep to get involved with the build up (meaning we could move Auba back central and get someone more creative like Saka on the left), and I think we’d also get more out of Pepe / Nelson on the right if they had someone in that ACM spot to play off. Lots we can still try, but it all starts from the back...

[Chippy]

Yeah, if the players he wants don’t come in then we’re going to have to be a little braver with what we have at some point. I totally get the safety formation in the short-term as we looked to steady the ship, calm nerves and restore a bit of confidence, but we can’t go through a whole season playing 343 - it’s not bold enough, and opponents will eventually start to suss it out.

Everything hinges on finding a defensive pairing who are comfortable in a back 2. Not only do we need that extra attacking midfielder to add creativity through the middle, it would also reduce the need for the CF to keep dropping deep to get involved with the build up, meaning we could move Auba back central and get someone more creative (like Saka) on the left, and I think we’d also get more out of Pepe / Nelson on the right if they had someone in that ACM spot to play off. Lots we can still try, but it all starts from the back...
If no one comes in, bring back Guendoezi! I would also play Torreira. They are both better than Xhaka tbh.

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...Everything hinges on finding a defensive pairing who are comfortable in a back 2. Not only do we need that extra attacking midfielder to add creativity through the middle, that player would also reduce the need for the CF to keep dropping deep to get involved with the build up (meaning we could move Auba back central and get someone more creative like Saka on the left), and I think we’d also get more out of Pepe / Nelson on the right if they had someone in that ACM spot to play off. Lots we can still try, but it all starts from the back...
Looks like we’ve gone for something like this in the second half against Sheffield - instant improvement going forward.

[Marc Overmars]

Aouar deal might be dead because he’s playing tonight for Lyon. Scored too.

Sounds like we can’t get rid of Guendouzi.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Farewell appearance.

[hobson's choice]

With these results so far this season, its clear this league is open. We sign a proper Midfield, we are in the mix.

So damn Arsenal to behave like this

[Mac76]

With these results so far this season, its clear this league is open. We sign a proper Midfield, we are in the mix.

So damn Arsenal to behave like this

Yeah it's like the season Leicester won (and we did the double over them) - another lost opportunity if we don't get it right, get rid of the crap at all costs and get a better midfielder in and above all PLAY POSITIVELY

[Marc Overmars]

We might be sending Guendouzi to Berlin on loan. We’re so desperate to get rid of the cunt we’re apparently just giving him to them without even receiving a loan fee. :lol:

This is why it isn’t always ideal to freeze out players. Particularly ones of value, you can’t expect someone to pay good money for a player that hasn’t been seen in months because of internal issues. It’s a terrible bargaining position.

[Gooner23]

Incomings are apparently looking unlikely now so could be a real slog until the next window. There's really no back up for Ceballos so if he got injured we'd be in trouble.

We did look better in the second half yesterday with Pepe wide right, Auba central and Willian / Saka rotating between left wing and no. 10. Hopefully Arteta gives that another go, but suspect he will revert to a back 3 again if he doesn't get the signings he wants.

[Gooner23]

With these results so far this season, its clear this league is open. We sign a proper Midfield, we are in the mix.

So damn Arsenal to behave like this

I think this is more a culmination of years of mis-management. Giving Wenger that last contract, and them sticking with Emery when it was clear it wasn't going to work. Four years in the Europa, with a Champions League wage bill and players we literally can't give away due to their high wages. Major over spend last summer on players that still aren't ready, and then spending more money again in January on two players we don't really need and have barely featured (Mari & Cedric).

Add that in to the back drop of a global pandemic and expected major loss in revenue and we are just in a terrible position currently. Short of Kroenke stepping in with his own money (not going to happen), I don't see what more the current hierarchy can do?

[Marc Overmars]

Exits are more likely than incomings for us now it seems.

Catenaccio it is. :bow:

[selassie]

The recruitment at this club is a complete shambles, I didn't think things could get any worse but they have. Mikel keeps on telling us to trust the process, yet between him and Edu they have been unable to close any of the deals, such as Aouar and Partey, we have had all summer to do it and a free run at both players, only Arsenal could manage to make a mess of such easy deals. We couldn't even sign Brentford's keeper, I mean how can we screw up any deal we go for...it's mind boggling.

To top it off, half of the outgoings are based on the interested clubs letting go of players themselves. We had a great opportunity to strengthen the team this summer and we failed.

Also...why are we so keen to let our Midfield depth walk without replacements? Are we going with a Xhaka / Elneny / Ceballos / Saka midfield all season, I mean isn't anybody coming in? I don't mean loans with no obligation to buy either, this club is like a rat down a drainpipe when it hears of players at clubs such as Chelsea and United are surplus to requirements, small time fc.

This club makes me sick.

P.S. If money is the issue, why are we shopping in a market that is beyond us, why not target players that are affordable? It makes no sense to me....

[Niall_Quinn]

Well at least we'll know by the end of the day if Kroenke is going to back Arteta now. I mean, obviously he won't. But with the weird results last night, and it being 2020, the year of weird... there's no chance.

[selassie]

With these results so far this season, its clear this league is open. We sign a proper Midfield, we are in the mix.

So damn Arsenal to behave like this

We won't sign anyone, it's ridiculous...as usual we leave our problem area untouched....

[selassie]

Well at least we'll know by the end of the day if Kroenke is going to back Arteta now. I mean, obviously he won't. But with the weird results last night, and it being 2020, the year of weird... there's no chance.

Regardless of that, if they knew the budget then they should have made a more concerted effort to get rid of our garbage. I don't understand the pursuit of Aouar, they knew the price...why spend months trying to drive the price down? It makes no sense....

[Marc Overmars]

I don’t think it’s not for the want of trying. I’m sure if it were that simple we could have bagged Aouar or Partey but the fact is we aren’t in a position financially to do so. We’re counting the cost for years of waste, look at all the shit we can’t even give away now, that’s not on Edu or Arteta.

The harsh reality for us is that we’re not like the mega rich clubs who can write things off if it doesn’t work out, when we spend big money every penny has to count.

[Niall_Quinn]

For once, I'm not sure how ridiculous a non-spend really is. They haven't had a crowd in the Emirates for a while. And Ozil needs to be treated to another year at full pay, which adds up to a fair bit. I'm wondering where the other clubs are getting the cash from.

We could ask Ozil for a loan I suppose.

[Niall_Quinn]

Regardless of that, if they knew the budget then they should have made a more concerted effort to get rid of our garbage. I don't understand the pursuit of Aouar, they knew the price...why spend months trying to drive the price down? It makes no sense....

Consistently underbidding until the selling club hates us has been a thing for years. We're the club that upped a bid by £1. It's a tradition.

[Marc Overmars]

For once, I'm not sure how ridiculous a non-spend really is. They haven't had a crowd in the Emirates for a while. And Ozil needs to be treated to another year at full pay, which adds up to a fair bit. I'm wondering where the other clubs are getting the cash from.

We could ask Ozil for a loan I suppose.

That’s the most ridiculous thing. We can’t move on because we have to budget for a player who hasn’t been involved for 7 months and may never play for us again. Fucking stupid.

[selassie]

Consistently underbidding until the selling club hates us has been a thing for years. We're the club that upped a bid by £1. It's a tradition.

Sad thing is it's true. :haha:

[selassie]

I don’t think it’s not for the want of trying. I’m sure if it were that simple we could have bagged Aouar or Partey but the fact is we aren’t in a position financially to do so. We’re counting the cost for years of waste, look at all the shit we can’t even give away now, that’s not on Edu or Arteta.

The harsh reality for us is that we’re not like the mega rich clubs who can write things off if it doesn’t work out, when we spend big money every penny has to count.

It's like the old days when Wenger was in charge, "We try but the price is too high" :haha:

[KSE Comedy Club]

So we have a huge reshuffle at the club, clearing out the dross from the hierarchy and middlemen to alleviate the old issues and be more efficient at the day to day running of the club.


And here we are, giving players away for nothing, not selling the old turgid shite that have stunk up the pitch for years, under bidding for our 'targets' and missing out, not replacing in key areas that we are weak in whilst making ourselves weaker, having no money and waiting for the last day of the window to hopefully get some has been loan deal in.

So...... what has changed exactly? :shrug:

[I am invisible]

Let's see what happens between now and Oct 16. I do genuinely have a lot of sympathy for Arteta, Edu and Vinnai and the mess they've inherited - I don't think anyone expected Raul to get canned off so suddenly, at the start of our most important window for a decade, so that must have thrown a load of plans into chaos. And I generally think they've done a great job in putting out fires over the last 10 months and salvaging a winning side from the ashes. However, they won't be entirely blameless if we end up with nothing else to show for this window.

Edu in particular has put his neck on the block after ditching most of our scouting network in favour of a smaller, more centralised team that's built around smart data analysis. Whilst I totally support that move, and think it was 100% necessary to modernise in this way, you've still got to be asking "who are the other targets?" You can't tell me that Partey and Aouar are the only two players in the world that would improve us right now. We're not exactly peak Barcelona.

I totally understand the argument that we don't want to end up with another load of duds that we can't shift, but, you know... stop handing out stupid contracts and it won't be an issue! If these 'best in class' signings aren't available to us at the moment then we might need to consider a smaller step-change instead, with a view to an upgrade a year or two down the line.

Anyway, let's see what happens over the next couple of weeks - maybe we have some rough diamonds from the EFL lined up.

[selassie]

Let's see what happens between now and Oct 16. I do genuinely have a lot of sympathy for Arteta, Edu and Vinnai and the mess they've inherited - I don't think anyone expected Raul to get canned off so suddenly, at the start of our most important window for a decade, so that must have thrown a load of plans into chaos. And I generally think they've done a great job in putting out fires over the last 10 months and salvaging a winning side from the ashes. However, they won't be entirely blameless if we end up with nothing else to show for this window.

Edu in particular has put his neck on the block after ditching most of our scouting network in favour of a smaller, more centralised team that's built around smart data analysis. Whilst I totally support that move, and think it was 100% necessary to modernise in this way, you've still got to be asking "who are the other targets?" You can't tell me that Partey and Aouar are the only two players in the world that would improve us right now. We're not exactly peak Barcelona.

I totally understand the argument that we don't want to end up with another load of duds that we can't shift, but, you know... stop handing out stupid contracts and it won't be an issue! If these 'best in class' signings aren't available to us at the moment then we might need to consider a smaller step-change instead, with a view to an upgrade a year or two down the line.

Anyway, let's see what happens over the next couple of weeks - maybe we have some rough diamonds from the EFL lined up.

I do agree with this but...in the same instance if we are going to make big sweeping changes in regards to recruitment and the process then when we should know what we are letting ourselves in for. Were any of these new innovative ideas laid down by Edu means tested or even thought out properly before being implemented?

Arteta was fairly clear in his stance a few weeks back that we needed to recruit in Midfield, his words were we need quality in this area.

He is know saying this....


Arteta said: “Believe me, the ownership and the board and doing everything they can to maximise the resources and make this club successful. I have 100 per cent backing for them. Whatever we can do, they are willing to do it, to support us.“Whatever we can add of course we will do it. But we have to be realistic. The people here are supportive.
“Whoever jumps in the boat will be welcome. But we all have a very clear direction and purpose to drive our goals.”

What does this even mean given we seem unable to complete deals we have been pursuing? It's just empty words as far as I am concerned.

If Arteta and Edu's eyes are too big for their belly then they need to start shopping in the market that is affordable...otherwise I have no idea what Arteta means with these comments...they make no sense.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Let's see what happens between now and Oct 16. I do genuinely have a lot of sympathy for Arteta, Edu and Vinnai and the mess they've inherited - I don't think anyone expected Raul to get canned off so suddenly, at the start of our most important window for a decade, so that must have thrown a load of plans into chaos. And I generally think they've done a great job in putting out fires over the last 10 months and salvaging a winning side from the ashes. However, they won't be entirely blameless if we end up with nothing else to show for this window.

Edu in particular has put his neck on the block after ditching most of our scouting network in favour of a smaller, more centralised team that's built around smart data analysis. Whilst I totally support that move, and think it was 100% necessary to modernise in this way, you've still got to be asking "who are the other targets?" You can't tell me that Partey and Aouar are the only two players in the world that would improve us right now. We're not exactly peak Barcelona.

I totally understand the argument that we don't want to end up with another load of duds that we can't shift, but, you know... stop handing out stupid contracts and it won't be an issue! If these 'best in class' signings aren't available to us at the moment then we might need to consider a smaller step-change instead, with a view to an upgrade a year or two down the line.

Anyway, let's see what happens over the next couple of weeks - maybe we have some rough diamonds from the EFL lined up.

Why Oct 16th?

Deadline day is today

Edit: ignore that, I see the domestic is open till the 16th.

[Gooner23]

That's probably more relevant to loaning out youngsters I guess. Unless we take a punt on someone like Benrahma.

[I am invisible]

I do agree with this but...in the same instance if we are going to make big sweeping changes in regards to recruitment and the process then when we should know what we are letting ourselves in for. Were any of these new innovative ideas laid down by Edu means tested or even thought out properly before being implemented?

Arteta was fairly clear in his stance a few weeks back that we needed to recruit in Midfield, his words were we need quality in this area.

He is know saying this....



What does this even mean given we seem unable to complete deals we have been pursuing? It's just empty words as far as I am concerned.

If Arteta and Edu's eyes are too big for their belly then they need to start shopping in the market that is affordable...otherwise I have no idea what Arteta means with these comments...they make no sense.

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:lol: Welcome to being Arsenal manger, Mikel! Lesson #1: never make public statements about what you think the team needs, because you'll always have to backtrack when you get nothing.

[Niall_Quinn]

Whatever we can add of course we will do it.

I've heard that somewhere before.

If he starts with the "Lacked little bit sharpness." after the games, then he can go pronto.

[selassie]

:lol: Welcome to being Arsenal manger, Mikel! Lesson #1: never make public statements about what you think the team needs, because you'll always have to backtrack when you get nothing.

:haha:

[selassie]

I've heard that somewhere before.

If he starts with the "Lacked little bit sharpness." after the games, then he can go pronto.

:lol: yep, very wenger-ish

[Gooner23]

https://twitter.com/charles_watts/status/1313084172760735744

Reliable journo, I just can't believe it.

[I am invisible]

https://twitter.com/charles_watts/status/1313084172760735744

Reliable journo, I just can't believe it.

What, like a kidnapping?

[Mac76]

it's the insistence that we get some money for losers like Mustafi that's holding us back - we should just give him away instead of trying to get any kind of money for him, no one wants to pay for him, he's terrible and everyone knows it

at least it would take people like that off the wage bill

[Gooner23]

Either we have decided to pay the release clause, or its the club leaking to the Arsenal journos so they can give it the 'we tried' spin.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://twitter.com/charles_watts/status/1313084172760735744

Reliable journo, I just can't believe it.

Another tried and tested tactic. Wait until the last minute then run out of time trying to do a month's work in one day. By the end of it the target player hates us just as much as his current club.

[Gooner23]

A few of the Arsenal friendly journos reporting it now, that we are ready to activate the release clause. If that's correct I would assume it could all go through quite quickly if Partey is keen.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's all down to getting rid of players first, including Torreira on loan. According to Sky. Which means none of that is true.

[Ollie the Optimist]

It's all down to getting rid of players first, including Torreira on loan. According to Sky. Which means none of that is true.

Supposedly Torreira is going on loan to Athletico

We are trying to buy Partey from Athletico.


I’m not an expect in transfer negotiations but surely a deal can be struck between the two clubs

[Marc Overmars]

Maybe another Pepe style instalment plan might work.

Torreira is as good as gone.

[Gooner23]

If it's genuine I think it's more likely we've managed to scrape enough to pay the release clause in which case there's no negotiation needed with Athletico

[Gooner23]

Saving money on Goonersaurus to pay for Partey

[KSE Comedy Club]

Torriera is already gone, he was pictured in Spain last week on twitter at some university campus there.

[Marc Overmars]

Not much news on Sokratis going yet. Another one we could be stuck with.

[selassie]

Supposedly Torreira is going on loan to Athletico

We are trying to buy Partey from Athletico.


I’m not an expect in transfer negotiations but surely a deal can be struck between the two clubs

We've only had all summer to do it? Should be a walk in the park! ;)

[I am invisible]

If it's genuine I think it's more likely we've managed to scrape enough to pay the release clause in which case there's no negotiation needed with Athletico

I'm almost laughing as I say this, but there might be the remotest of remote chances that the Kroenkes always planned to back this move if they were forced to, and were just waiting to see if we could raise the money through sales first?

There's just something about how calm Arteta and Edu have appeared about our transfer business, and how there's been literally zero interest in any other targets...

[GP]

Partey time, excellent.

[Ollie the Optimist]

We've only had all summer to do it? Should be a walk in the park! ;)

:lol:

But given its deadline day and both clubs want a player from each other, surely a deal can be struck

[Ollie the Optimist]

Ornstein has just confirmed the news.

[selassie]

Ornstein has just confirmed the news.

:dancingman:

[Gooner23]

Athletic refused to negotiate by all accounts so it was either pay the release clause or nothing. I suspect we hoped loaning Torreira would ease their stance.

[Marc Overmars]

Come on Arsenal. :bow:

Get it done.

[Gooner23]

Charles Watts confirming we have now agreed to pay the release clause, having previously hoped we could negotiate a lower price

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/arsenal-45m-move-atletico-madrid-partey/nl7u3ka9rn761tis7tk8ngifj

[Letters]

We're going to (sign) Partey like it's 1999.

[I am invisible]

We're going to (sign) Partey like it's 1999.
1999 was a terrible year! Please Partey like it’s 1998, 2002 or 2004, thank you.

[Mac76]

1999 was a terrible year! Please Partey like it’s 1998, 2002 or 2004, thank you.

yeah and the song was rubbish too, like the person who sang it :ninja:

[Letters]

yeah and the song was rubbish too, like the person who sang it :ninja:

More of a Boyzone man, are we?

[dostoy]

Liverpool need a new second choice goalkeeper because Adrian is crap.

He was last season as well and it is a major mistake by Klopp not to get rid of him and get someone else.

Will they sign another goalkeeper today ?

[Mac76]

More of a Boyzone man, are we?

Try Swervedriver ;)

[Mac76]

guendouzi to Hertha Berlin - probably

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/matteo-guendouzi-set-deadline-day-22791570

he was our future once... :rose:

[I am invisible]

yeah and the song was rubbish too, like the person who sang it :ninja:

:o

[Niall_Quinn]

Not as rubbish as the stupid woman doing the transfer news on Sky. "There's also Utd too trying to sign Cavani, too."

[GP]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/j5l1w2/here_comes_the_money/

[Globalgunner]

More of a Boyzone man, are we?

Justin Bieber more like

[Niall_Quinn]

Gwen on loan to Hertha is done.

[Mac76]

Saints want Feo on loan :haha:

[Mac76]

This from BBC

18:38
Partey 'almost certain' to happen

Ian Dennis

BBC Radio 5 Live senior football reporter

I’m told the Thomas Partey move to Arsenal is “almost certain” to happen according to sources close to the player which will be great news for Mikel Arteta.

[Master Splinter]

All the crying this morning and now it's:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjD9X2mPIXY

[Marc Overmars]

Is it Partey time yet?

[Niall_Quinn]

Who is he? Is he any good?

[Mac76]

Who is he? Is he any good?

Does it matter? They said Xhaka and Mustafi were good when we signed them....

[Marc Overmars]

Who is he? Is he any good?

Rock solid CM who can play box to box. Really good piece of business IMO.

[I am invisible]

Who is he? Is he any good?
World class. Could be a transformative signing for us.

[Niall_Quinn]

And Atleti wanted to keep him? Or were they trying to get rid?

[Niall_Quinn]

Tried to watch a YT reel but the "music" they put on those things is so awful I ended up going on a shooting spree instead.

[Marc Overmars]

And Atleti wanted to keep him? Or were they trying to get rid?

They didn’t have a choice, we’re paying his release clause. They wouldn’t have sold for any less.

[Niall_Quinn]

'Arry and Jamie Redknapp both in the Sky studio. That's great news.

[Globalgunner]

All the crying this morning and now it's:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjD9X2mPIXY

Mac76 criticised the man who made this music. Sacrilege. i'm really pissed

[McNamara That Ghost...]

SSN say we've met the release clause for Partey. :trophy:

[Niall_Quinn]

Partey's release clause triggered. So they have a couple of hours to agree terms with the player and, most importantly, work out the agent's bung. Couldn't they have triggered this clause weeks ago? Or even this morning?

[Globalgunner]

Partey's release clause triggered. So they have a couple of hours to agree terms with the player and, most importantly, work out the agent's bung. Couldn't they have triggered this clause weeks ago? Or even this morning?

Ol Wiggy is 6 hrs behind UK time at his ranch. We needed him to wake up first. Billionaires gotta get their 8 hrs daily

[Niall_Quinn]

Sky still running ads for a marxist anti-western terror group. Why are they doing that when so many fans are watching today?

[Niall_Quinn]

Roma have signed Chris Smalling for some reason.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Partey's release clause triggered. So they have a couple of hours to agree terms with the player and, most importantly, work out the agent's bung. Couldn't they have triggered this clause weeks ago? Or even this morning?

We have to observe the observing period.

[Niall_Quinn]

We have to observe the observing period.

Is that why Sky's clock runs to hundredths of a second?

Jack the lad's contract at WHU has been terminated by mutual consent.

[I am invisible]

Partey's release clause triggered. So they have a couple of hours to agree terms with the player and, most importantly, work out the agent's bung. Couldn't they have triggered this clause weeks ago? Or even this morning?
It sounds like personal terms were agreed weeks ago - just need to get the medical done

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wheelchair. :rose:

[Ollie the Optimist]

It sounds like personal terms were agreed weeks ago - just need to get the medical done

One article states for the release clause to be valid you have to show you have agreed personal terms with the player or at least pretty much done.

I dont think you can just pay a release clause without dome agreement in place with player otherwise could be chaos

[Niall_Quinn]

Jack doesn't sound too happy about it.

[LDG]

Wheelchair. :rose:


https://youtu.be/odxh_ZEUPlQ

[Niall_Quinn]

One article states for the release clause to be valid you have to show you have agreed personal terms with the player or at least pretty much done.

I dont think you can just pay a release clause without dome agreement in place with player otherwise could be chaos

Sky says you have to slap the money down with the Spanish authorities to trigger the release. But if we've already negotiated a deal with the player, isn't that classic tapping-up?

[Niall_Quinn]

https://youtu.be/odxh_ZEUPlQ

How have we ended up getting rid of Jack and Ramsey and ended up with Elneny and Xhaka?

[Marc Overmars]

I would actually take Wheelchair back if he were to agree to a heavily reduced contract.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Sky says you have to slap the money down with the Spanish authorities to trigger the release. But if we've already negotiated a deal with the player, isn't that classic tapping-up?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-110million-thomas-partey-transfer-22797354

The process is here if the mirror are right

[McNamara That Ghost...]

'Arry says Spuds could win the league. :lol:

[dazthegooner]

If it's part of a raffle maybe.

[LDG]

I would actually take Wheelchair back if he were to agree to a heavily reduced contract.

Pay as you play would be ideal

[Letters]

'Arry says Spuds could win the league. :lol:

Seems unlikely, but in a season where Villa can beat Liverpool 7-2 who bleedin’ knows any more.

[Letters]

Pay as you play would be ideal

Maybe we could get Ozil onto that sort of contract :pray:

[Mac76]

I would actually take Wheelchair back if he were to agree to a heavily reduced contract.

What's the point? He's permanently injured

[Mac76]

Seems unlikely, but in a season where Villa can beat Liverpool 7-2 who bleedin’ knows any more.

That's the second spuds-related crime you've committed - suggesting for a moment that spuds could win anything

Maccy can you kick this guy? :lol:

[dazthegooner]

That's the second spuds-related crime you've committed - suggesting for a moment that spuds could win anything

Maccy can you kick this guy? :lol:

:gp:

[Letters]

Wait till you hear my thoughts on Teddy Sheringham and Chaz N Dave

:ninja:

[LDG]

Wait till you hear my thoughts on Teddy Sheringham and Chaz N Dave

:ninja:

Teddy Sheringham nuts are you
Chas n Dave and Julie Andrews

Pop on the orange shirt, peach schnapps
Royalist Tory, who hates blacks

[GP]

Teddy Sheringham nuts are you
Chas n Dave and Julie Andrews

Pop on the orange shirt, peach schnapps
Royalist Tory, who hates blacks

:lol:

Letters in a nutshell

[I am invisible]

One article states for the release clause to be valid you have to show you have agreed personal terms with the player or at least pretty much done.

I dont think you can just pay a release clause without dome agreement in place with player otherwise could be chaos
Yeah, as I understand it (in Spain, at least) it’s the player that pays their own release clause, and not the buying club, so you’d have to think that the buying club and the player would have arranged that in advance - terms probably agreed at the same time.

[Letters]

Teddy Sheringham nuts are you
Chas n Dave and Julie Andrews

Pop on the orange shirt, peach schnapps
Royalist Tory, who hates blacks

That’s quite good tbf :lol:

[Globalgunner]

Wilshere and Walcott drifting down the clubs. Ramsey just floating on wages at Juve. Well spotted Wenger

[Mac76]

One hour left to get Partey done... :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd sign Old Man Cavani.

[Niall_Quinn]

Man Utd sign Old Man Cavani.

Guess they still have money to burn after the Sanchez saga.

[Marc Overmars]

How have we not managed to flog Sokratis at least? All we could do is give Guendouzi away on loan for free.

There’s deadwood and then there’s Arsenal deadwood.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Did 'Arry just say Czechoslovakian? :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Did we at least manage to dump Torreira?

I wonder if this is what the delay is, a desperate run around trying to get rid of the dross.

[LDG]

Torriera done. Off to Atletico Madrid

[Marc Overmars]

The money and paperwork with La Liga has been dealt with according to the Spanish press. Sounds it is done and we’re just waiting on the announcement now.

Partey time motherfuckers!

[Niall_Quinn]

I'll judge it when the last 100th of second has ticked down on the super precise Sky clock.

[Marc Overmars]

I hope we’ve given Atleti an obligation to buy Torriera because there’s no doubt for me that he’s going to fit in quite well there. Could be a decent fee in it for us next year.

[Niall_Quinn]

Won't matter much, we'll be millionaires this time next year when Ozil's contract runs out. Unless we re-sign him on a bigger deal. Mustafi's will be done too, won't it? Probably quite a few others too.

[GP]

The money and paperwork with La Liga has been dealt with according to the Spanish press. Sounds it is done and we’re just waiting on the announcement now.

Partey time motherfuckers!

Ornstein says it's done.

https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1313233771659964417

[LDG]

Ornstein says it's done.

https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1313233771659964417

Orrrrrr

Nah, I can’t do it

[Letters]

Fiver says Partey immediately dies of, or possibly with, Covid.

[LDG]

Utd have signed an Armadillo

[Niall_Quinn]

Fiver says Partey immediately dies of, or possibly with, Covid.

Doubt it. He's flying off to Turkey to join the Ghana squad for a meaningless international, and I can't see how anything bad could come of that.

[Niall_Quinn]

Slammed SHUT!

[Mac76]

Let's hope he;s as good as they say :pray:

[Niall_Quinn]

Atleti has confirmed Partey has terminated his contract and joined Arsenal for 45mill quid.

[LDG]

Official.

It’s done

Welcome Tomas :scarf:

[GP]

Decent backup for Xhaka

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsenal have not confirmed Partey yet. But they have confirmed Torreira has gone out on loan with option to make the deal permanent.

[Niall_Quinn]

Let's hope he;s as good as they say :pray:

Let's hope he's not instructed to plod around the midfield tapping it sideways and backwards.

[LDG]

Arsenal have not confirmed Partey yet. But they have confirmed Torreira has gone out on loan with option to make the deal permanent.

Arsenal twitter wum has invited us 11.15

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsenal twitter wum has invited us 11.15

Doing my hair then.

[Marc Overmars]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Arsenal/status/1313239039819087874

Invitation to a party. :)

[GP]

https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/1313241301148749824

Done

[GP]

Willian
Gabriel
Partey

Auba re-signed.

Decent window. If only we could have sold some of the dross.

[Mac76]

He's going to have 'Thomas' on his shirt it seems - now there's a name to live up to...

https://arsenaldirect.arsenal.com/shopbyplayer/THOMAS_PARTEY_2020-21

[I am invisible]

Willian
Gabriel
Partey

Auba re-signed.

Decent window. If only we could have sold some of the dross.
Just like that, CB and CM addressed in one window - surgical! I like it.

Also interesting to see the recruitment that’s been going on at u23 level, which has allowed us to send a raft of younger players out on loan. That marks a big step forward too, imo - either get these kids ready to play or build their value to sell so we can reinvest. No more stagnating in the reserves and then leaving for nothing after all that work.

[I am invisible]

He's going to have 'Thomas' on his shirt it seems - now there's a name to live up to...

https://arsenaldirect.arsenal.com/shopbyplayer/THOMAS_PARTEY_2020-21
His name sells shirts either way at this club - clever.

[I am invisible]

Lol @ Atletico for being angry at us for paying his release clause without telling them! Pretty sure we gave them nothing but other options all summer long, and it was them who told us to go away and pay the RC if we wanted him.

[I am invisible]

Poor little Lucas though - Simeone’s probably going to beat him every day now!

[Mac76]

Welbz dumped by Watford :haha:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54433653

[Mac76]

Welbz, Wilshere, Walcott - all moving down and out - we were so good at spotting long-lasting talent... :rolleyes:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Welbz, Wilshere, Walcott - all moving down and out - we were so good at spotting long-lasting talent... :rolleyes:

Probably a bit harsh that. I mean Theo did score over 100 goals for us, which is not an easy achievement.

Welbeck was never really signed as a “talent” but more as a decent backup striker and to be fair, he was ok at the role and unlucky with injuries.

Wilshere is just pain old bad luck, there was a very talented player there who has had his career ruined by injuries.

[Mac76]

Probably a bit harsh that. I mean Theo did score over 100 goals for us, which is not an easy achievement.

Welbeck was never really signed as a “talent” but more as a decent backup striker and to be fair, he was ok at the role and unlucky with injuries.

Wilshere is just pain old bad luck, there was a very talented player there who has had his career ruined by injuries.

oh shut up and let me be cynical will ya... :lol:

[Letters]

Walcott was frustrating. He wasn't a duffer but never quite became the player we all hoped he would.
Agree about Wilshere and Welbeck

[Marc Overmars]

When he wasn’t in the treatment room, Theo’s numbers weren’t actually that bad for us at all. Compare that now to what we’ve been getting from our forwards apart from Auba since.

He was never world class though and wasted his best years with us when he was never Wenger’s preferred choice. Career totally passed him by.

[Mac76]

it's true about Theo up to a point, i never thought he delivered much - even the 100 goals were over a long period of time - but compared to the total paucity of goals from anyone other than Auba - until recently anyway - he was actually good in comparison

I liked Welbz but he just wasn't anywhere near consistent enough in front of goal

and Wilshere yes obvs he was unfortunate

but in each case these guys were given a lot of time at the club and ultimately none of them fulfilled their perceived potential

[selassie]

One mans trash is another mans treasure. I actually thought Wilshere & Walcott were pretty decent at times in their career. Both absolute crocks, which was one of the things we excelled in back in those days, we introduced a bunch of crocks to Football. Wilshere, Walcott, Diaby, Ramsey et all never truly reached their potential through mismanagement of their bodies.

[selassie]

Lol @ Atletico for being angry at us for paying his release clause without telling them! Pretty sure we gave them nothing but other options all summer long, and it was them who told us to go away and pay the RC if we wanted him.

Lol! Classic Arsenal though. We always seem to rub up the rival team when it comes to transfers! Whenever we pick up a half decent player off a team who are on our level or above it, drama ensues! :haha:

P.S Our online fanbase is really troll-ish though :haha: