What would you do about the league season?

[Niall_Quinn]

This all ends up in court doesn’t it?

How can you change the length of matches half way through a season and expect people to think its ok.

How can you do any of the crazy things that have been done over the last couple of months? Crazy is the new normal.

[Letters]

This all ends up in court doesn’t it?

How can you change the length of matches half way through a season and expect people to think its ok.

There is no way to legitimately end the season now. It's just not possible. Too much time has passed.
Let's say we can start football again tomorrow with crowds and everything - which absolutely cannot happen, but let's pretend.
Players like Kane who was going to miss the end of the season may well now be available, so that inherently has the potential to affect results.
That would be the closest we could get to finishing the season legitimately and clearly isn't going to happen.

All the other ideas which have been mooted are varying degrees of crazy.

[Letters]

How can you do any of the crazy things that have been done over the last couple of months? Crazy is the new normal.

You're finally normal!


:d

[Marc Overmars]

The season cannot be completed with any integrity, so this whole project restart is nonsense.

[Niall_Quinn]

The season cannot be completed with any integrity, so this whole project restart is nonsense.

Yes, yes, but the money? What about the money?

[Letters]

It's a good point.
The PL clubs do like money.

[GP]

Money can be exchanged for goods and services.

[Özim]

I don't know why they're still talking about this (well I do but that's not a good reason), people can barely leave their house right now and they're talking about restarting a season noone cares about, with 45 minute halves, games at neutral venues behind closed doors. How ridiculous.

It was a woeful season before it got prematurely ended, let's not restart the nightmare especially given what's going on, follow the French and Dutch and cancel it.

[Mac76]

I don't know why they're still talking about this (well I do but that's not a good reason), people can barely leave their house right now and they're talking about restarting a season noone cares about, with 45 minute halves, games at neutral venues behind closed doors. How ridiculous.



agree, crazy idea... ;)

[Ollie the Optimist]

Apparently if the league games already played were reduced to 60 minutes as per current restart proposal and all goals scored after the 60th minute no longer counted, Liverpool & City would be level on points as it stands.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Apparently if the league games already played were reduced to 60 minutes as per current restart proposal and all goals scored after the 60th minute no longer counted, Liverpool & City would be level on points as it stands.

Pointless stat though. If games were only 60 minutes long, what Liverpool do so late on in games would probably just happen earlier.

[dazthegooner]

Could always play like a subbuteo table 4-4-2 with a long stick tied to the players moving side to side not allowed to move forward or back.

[Letters]

Could always play like a subbuteo table 4-4-2 with a long stick tied to the players moving side to side not allowed to move forward or back.

:haha:

I’d pay to watch that to be fair

[Ollie the Optimist]

Pointless stat though. If games were only 60 minutes long, what Liverpool do so late on in games would probably just happen earlier.

Not so sure thats the case. Half the reason Liverpool score late is that they wear the other team down. They stand firm for 85+ minutes and concede at the end. If games where only 60 minutes, much more likely that they dont tire and still hold firm for a point

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not so sure thats the case. Half the reason Liverpool score late is that they wear the other team down. They stand firm for 85+ minutes and concede at the end. If games where only 60 minutes, much more likely that they dont tire and still hold firm for a point

It's not only about wearing down though, in the sense of stamina yielding. Teams will sit back right at the end trying to hang on for what they've got, that's going to be the case whenever the match is near ending.

[Özim]

Sporting wise if anything good comes out of this, it will be lower salaries all round in football, the amount of money we've seen in the game in recent times, with players who haven't even achieved anything getting paid big money and players get more and more per week as each year went by was ruining the game.

Hopefully we see this trend reverse, clubs will have less money and will need to make cuts where necessary, which can only be a good thing for the game.

[Mac76]

Sporting wise if anything good comes out of this, it will be lower salaries all round in football, the amount of money we've seen in the game in recent times, with players who haven't even achieved anything getting paid big money and players get more and more per week as each year went by was ruining the game.

Hopefully we see this trend reverse, clubs will have less money and will need to make cuts where necessary, which can only be a good thing for the game.

I'm sure Arsenal will find a way to pay massive contracts to people like Ozil and sign losers like Mustafi for tens of millions of quid

[Niall_Quinn]

They should get rid of VAR.

More problems than it's worth, also ruining the game. It probably caused this coronavirus too, so far I haven't seen a shred of proof to the contrary.

[Coney]

Could always play like a subbuteo table 4-4-2 with a long stick tied to the players moving side to side not allowed to move forward or back.

It would be like having Hleb back again.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Reading some reports yesterday saying that if the current bottom 3 dont vote for games a neutral venues, the league will just relegate them anyway.


Keeping that integrity of the season going :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Could they not just kidnap family members and use them for leverage?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Sky news reporting that leagues can get rid of VAR when they or if they return to finish this season.

So, the final 90 odd games are likely to be:

- played in neutral venues
- No VAR
- halves of less then 45 minutes

But sure, this will keep the integrity of the season going and not end up in court

[Niall_Quinn]

Are they serious about the FEWER than 45 minutes thing? I thought that was a joke.

I mean it IS a joke if that's what they actually intend.

Can't you catch a virus in 1 second? What does shortening the halves supposedly achieve?

[Mac76]

Are they serious about the FEWER than 45 minutes thing? I thought that was a joke.

I mean it IS a joke if that's what they actually intend.

Can't you catch a virus in 1 second? What does shortening the halves supposedly achieve?

i think it's so players don't use so much energy and can therefore recover more quickly to play the next game

let's face it the whole thing is a joke they should just call it off

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yeah I don't see what difference it makes. What they should say is no injury time, red cards for anyone feigning injury or wasting time.

It's going to be a completely different season, common sense is going out of the window and the season will resume come what may, so they should just go nuts with it.

[Letters]

Multi ball!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQF8rQaIjUE

[Niall_Quinn]

Next it'll be women linesmen.

[Niall_Quinn]

i think it's so players don't use so much energy and can therefore recover more quickly to play the next game

let's face it the whole thing is a joke they should just call it off

That's what squads are for. Give the younger kids a chance to play. They are probably better footballers than the overpaid lazy fucks that are keeping them out of the team based on contractual agreements.

Either play the damn game or don't. All this "guided by the integrity" BS is fooling nobody.

[Ollie the Optimist]

FIFA have relaxed the rules to say that any competition that resumes can amend their rules to allow 5 subs per match. If game goes to extra time, they still get the extra sub if that competition allows like the FA Cup.

With all these rules changes, the league will be so far off what was played earlier in teh season so there is no integrity.

Best thing to do is scrap it, void it & start again in September or even October when crowds are being allowed back.

If sky & BT demand their money back, i think the league should state they will only give it back if they reimburse their customers who would have paid subscriptions. Why should sky etc get all the money back if they don’t return it to the customers?

[Mac76]

FIFA have relaxed the rules to say that any competition that resumes can amend their rules to allow 5 subs per match. If game goes to extra time, they still get the extra sub if that competition allows like the FA Cup.

With all these rules changes, the league will be so far off what was played earlier in teh season so there is no integrity.

Best thing to do is scrap it, void it & start again in September or even October when crowds are being allowed back.

If sky & BT demand their money back, i think the league should state they will only give it back if they reimburse their customers who would have paid subscriptions. Why should sky etc get all the money back if they don’t return it to the customers?

That last point is a very good one, i'd have thought subscribers could launch a pretty good collective action on those grounds if the TV people got their money back

Also agree it's getting ridiculous now, they should just N&V and have done with it

[Ollie the Optimist]

That last point is a very good one, i'd have thought subscribers could launch a pretty good collective action on those grounds if the TV people got their money back

Also agree it's getting ridiculous now, they should just N&V and have done with it

Sky & BT would be on shaky ground arguing that they deserve their money back from the league because no season took place and then saying to the paying public, that they cant have a refund.

And lets face it, the league does make so much money for sky that they’ll continue showing it. They wont want to lose the income especially given Netflix, Amazon etc can run it at a loss for a few years to pressure to sky.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sky and BT have already allowed subscribers to suspend payments for Sky Sports and BT Sports while still allowing access to the channels. So they are on extremely solid ground.

[Letters]

It would be interesting to know what all the contracts say.
Back in the day if you paid for “Sky Sports” then you’re just paying for the channel, not any specific content.
Sure, you might have subscribed mainly to watch football but if they’re still showing content then they could fairly reasonably say you’re still getting a service.
Now they’ve split it into a load of sports channels, if some of those are specific to football and you subscribe to that one then they’re on shakier ground as it’s clear what you’ve subscribed for.
I don’t know how the Sky bundles work, do all the sports things come as a package or do you subscribe specifically to certain channels?

[Ollie the Optimist]

It would be interesting to know what all the contracts say.
Back in the day if you paid for “Sky Sports” then you’re just paying for the channel, not any specific content.
Sure, you might have subscribed mainly to watch football but if they’re still showing content then they could fairly reasonably say you’re still getting a service.
Now they’ve split it into a load of sports channels, if some of those are specific to football and you subscribe to that one then they’re on shakier ground as it’s clear what you’ve subscribed for.
I don’t know how the Sky bundles work, do all the sports things come as a package or do you subscribe specifically to certain channels?

True but on the other hand, the premier league could say to sky, well you paid for football and you showed it so why should we give you money back? I wonder if the contract between the league & broadcasters states that any football shown counts regardless whether that game or season is null & void.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brighton say a third player has tested positive for Coronavirus.

Sky Sports ticker.

Integrity. :bow:

[Mac76]

Another nail in the coffin of 'project restart', hopefully

Although .... is this a Brighton plot to avoid relegation?

Did they get tips from Johnson on how to get a dose of CV for the sympathy vote?

We deserve to be told.... ;)

[fakeyank]

I just want this season to be N&V so I can troll my liverpool supporting friends..

[Ollie the Optimist]

So no sport until 1st June at earliest and behind closed doors until further notice.

[Chippy]

So no sport until 1st June at earliest and behind closed doors until further notice.
The Scousers must be crapping themselves 😁

[Marc Overmars]

Null and void is off the table, so this shit show will have its conclusion in one way or another.

I’m thinking they will have to do the points per game thing, as I don’t see a big appetite from the players to get going again.

[Letters]

Points per game works for me

Best (and latest) St Totts’ Day ever?

[Ollie the Optimist]

I wish this was a joke but the telegraph are reporting that the premier league’s plan to convince players & managers it is safe to return to playing football is to tell them to “turn their face away when being tackled”


If thats the plan, just cancel the fucking season

[Marc Overmars]

This is all such nonsense. It’s not going to be football as anyone knows it and don’t even get started on the integrity of it.

[Mac76]

it's over for football this season, there's no way of resurrecting it in a way that is going to be a) deemed safe and b) deemed fair to all clubs

They'll have to do the points thing

it should just be a complete N&V but the 'justice for the 96' mafia would still make sure the scousers got the title and in the process kick off a whole load of decisions down the chain which will in turn launch a bunch of legal cases that go on for years

[Letters]

Increasingly feels like they are like those politicians - like the leaders of small parties - who despite all the evidence to the contrary repeatedly insist they can win an election when it's obvious they can't.

This season is not going to resume. Just do points per game or N&V. I don't care which.

N&V makes more sense in some ways as relegating teams based on PPG is going to lead to a world of litigation.

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52665805

:popcorn:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Cancel the darn season already. The hub cap nickers can regroup and try again when we get back to semblance of normality.

[Marc Overmars]

PL back on June 17th.

Our game with City will start things off. :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

PL back on June 17th.

Our game with City will start things off. :lol:

Fuck. We need another pandemic - and fast!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Essentially we're playing Citeh first game of the season again. :rolleyes:

[Marc Overmars]

All the games will be televised including some on BBC.

[Chippy]

All the games will be televised including some on BBC.

Excellent! We will see City spit roast us on day 1 :getcoat::haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Excellent! We will see City spit roast us on day 1 :getcoat::haha:

You never know. The new normal might turn out to be really weird.

[Mac76]

You never know. The new normal might turn out to be really weird.

some things NEVER change - and one of them is our being totally trashed by a team like Citeh away from home, especially live on TV

we all know our players will be slow, badly organised (just wait to see Xhaka and Mustafi in the starting lineup) and poorly prepared and that Citeh will be like a finely tuned Rolls Royce - man, it's gonna be bad... :(

[Marc Overmars]

I wonder when they’ll be starting 20/21? Presumably there won’t be much of a pre-season and also the transfer window will probably have to be heavily reduced or even scrapped?

[Marc Overmars]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52846694

The police have apparently requested these fixtures are played at neutral venues:

Manchester City v Liverpool

Manchester City v Newcastle

Manchester United v Sheffield United

Newcastle v Liverpool

Everton v Liverpool

Plus any game in which Liverpool could secure the title - I don’t think this will stop Liverpool fans travelling to wherever the game is anyway tbh.

[Niall_Quinn]

I wonder when they’ll be starting 20/21? Presumably there won’t be much of a pre-season and also the transfer window will probably have to be heavily reduced or even scrapped?

If they scrap the window will we be treated to players claiming they are slaves again?

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52846694

The police have apparently requested these fixtures are played at neutral venues:

Manchester City v Liverpool

Manchester City v Newcastle

Manchester United v Sheffield United

Newcastle v Liverpool

Everton v Liverpool

Plus any game in which Liverpool could secure the title - I don’t think this will stop Liverpool fans travelling to wherever the game is anyway tbh.

How would that, in any way, uphold the integrity of the game, which is the PLs first and foremost concern?

Apparently.

[Letters]

New FA Cup dates announced

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52815105

I honestly thought it had been cancelled. What are they going to do, play the semis and final behind closed doors? :blink:

[Mac76]

How would that, in any way, uphold the integrity of the game, which is the PLs first and foremost concern?

Apparently.

they either all need to be at neutral venues or none of them, a mixture makes zero sense - except to the PL of course...

[WMUG]

All the games will be televised including some on BBC.

Do we know which ones?

[Mac76]

Do we know which ones?

knowing our luck it will be every remaining Burnley fixture... :ilt:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool's neutral games at Old Trafford would be my suggestion.

It'll make me laugh if they win the title there.

[Mac76]

Liverpool's neutral games at Old Trafford would be my suggestion.

It'll make me laugh if they win the title there.

I agree, that would indeed be funny :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Culture Secretary confirms all that we knew.

4 games on the BBC. 4 0-0's probably.

[Niall_Quinn]

Culture Secretary confirms all that we knew.

4 games on the BBC. 4 0-0's probably.

Hopefully the BBC won't lie about the scores.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hopefully they will.

[Niall_Quinn]

Hopefully they will.

But only for our game - otherwise it would be scandalous.

The real score I mean.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Manchester City 0-10 Arsenal. :bow:

Believable.

[Niall_Quinn]

Manchester City 0-10 Arsenal. :bow:

Believable.

These are crazy times. People will read about this in their history books and wonder what it was like to live through this strangeness.

But no self respecting history book would ever publish a score like that.

I was thinking a massivelittle white lie that avoids the routine four goal pasting might sneak under the radar.

[Letters]

Financially driven? :o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52866678

Outrageous allegation :sulk:

[dazthegooner]

He's probably realised that only players that will be playing in the premier league next season needed to be consulted :good:

[Mac76]

"I am all for playing again because we have no other choice"

say wha? he's 'all for it' because he's not allowed not to be 'all for it'...? :blink:

[Niall_Quinn]

It's sad to see the players being dragged into the tawdry world of big money and financial incentive. I fear this could ultimately have an impact on their boyhood dreams and loyalty to the fans.

[dazthegooner]

As long as the kiss the shirt before they leave everything will be fine... :unsure:

[Niall_Quinn]

As long as the kiss the shirt before they leave everything will be fine... :unsure:

Won't they catch Coronavirus if they do that?

[dazthegooner]

Won't they catch Coronavirus if they do that?

If the do the time they spent in the labs being used as guinea pigs was wasted...

[Niall_Quinn]

If the do the time they spent in the labs being used as guinea pigs was wasted...

A heartbreaking outcome either way. It makes me realise how lucky I am. There but for the grace of God...

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52914350

Integrity :bow:

They’re just doing more and more things to make sure that the final outcome is going to be different to how it would have been.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why not 10 subs, or 20? Or a 2 goal head start for some teams? So much more stuff they could be pulling out of their arses.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52914350

Integrity :bow:

They’re just doing more and more things to make sure that the final outcome is going to be different to how it would have been.

Five subs can come on and nine on the bench.

It's close to a Community Shield match every week then. Bloody stupid.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shamelessly stolen from Redcafe:


Wednesday, June 17
Aston Villa v Sheffield United 6pm – SKY
Manchester City v Arsenal 8pm – SKY

Friday, June 19
Norwich v Southampton 6pm – SKY
Tottenham v Manchester United 8pm – SKY

Saturday, June 20
Watford v Leicester 12.30pm – BT
Brighton v Arsenal 3pm – BT
West Ham v Wolves 5.30pm – SKY
Bournemouth v Crystal Palace 7.45pm – BBC

Sunday, June 21
Newcastle v Sheffield United 2pm – SKY
Aston Villa v Chelsea 4.30pm – SKY
Everton v Liverpool 7pm – SKY

Monday, June 22
Manchester City v Burnley 8pm – SKY

Tuesday, June 23
Southampton v Arsenal 6pm – SKY
Tottenham v West Ham 8.15pm – SKY

Wednesday, June 24
Manchester United v Sheffield United 6pm – SKY
Newcastle v Aston Villa 6pm – SKY
Norwich v Everton 6pm – BBC
Liverpool v Crystal Palace 8.15pm – SKY

Thursday, June 25
Burnley v Watford 6pm – SKY
Leicester v Brighton 6pm – SKY
Chelsea v Manchester City 8.15pm – BT
Wolves v Bournemouth 8.15pm – BT

Sunday, June 28
Aston Villa v Wolves 12pm – BT
Watford v Southampton 4.30pm – SKY

Monday June, 29
Crystal Palace v Burnley 8pm – AMAZON

Tuesday June, 30
Brighton v Manchester United 6pm – SKY
Sheffield United v Tottenham 8.15pm – SKY

Wednesday, July 1
Bournemouth v Newcastle 6pm – SKY
Everton v Leicester 6pm – SKY
West Ham v Chelsea 8.15pm – SKY

Thursday, July 2
Arsenal v Norwich 6pm – BT
Manchester City v Liverpool 8.15pm – SKY

First stint of TV fixtures are out.

[Marc Overmars]

Apart from Liverpool winning the title, the rest of what happens this season is a sham.

[Niall_Quinn]

Apart from Liverpool winning the title, the rest of what happens this season is a sham.

So cynical. You're overlooking the fact integrity has been at the heart of every decision.

[GP]

Amazon hit the jackpot with that fixture.

[Letters]

Amazon hit the jackpot with that fixture.

My Prime Membership continues to pay for itself

[Niall_Quinn]

I ditched Amazon and Prime. Wondering what affect that has on the movies I bought from them. So far so good, but membership hasn't run out yet.

I won't be supporting a queer fuck like Bezos from now on. And I don't want to watch the entirely financially motivated footie anyway, so no loss there.

If everyone ditched Amazon, the high streets would come back. I know a lot of people who say they will be supporting the high street from now on, because it was small business that came through when Amazon had delivery dates of 3 million years, and price hiking fucks all over its site, and a surge in dodgy chinks selling cheap, useless shit. The big corporations couldn't do any better. Weber took 2 months to deliver a BBQ.

Whether people who say they will support their local business have the character to stick to those principles, we'll see.

[Mac76]

As for us:

Citeh away = nil points
Brighton away = pub a draw
Saints away = lose with an OG by that defender we got from them recently (forgotten his name already)
Norwich at home = pub a draw

Can't wait...

[Mac76]

I ditched Amazon and Prime. Wondering what affect that has on the movies I bought from them. So far so good, but membership hasn't run out yet.

I won't be supporting a queer fuck like Bezos from now on. And I don't want to watch the entirely financially motivated footie anyway, so no loss there.

If everyone ditched Amazon, the high streets would come back. I know a lot of people who say they will be supporting the high street from now on, because it was small business that came through when Amazon had delivery dates of 3 million years, and price hiking fucks all over its site, and a surge in dodgy chinks selling cheap, useless shit. The big corporations couldn't do any better. Weber took 2 months to deliver a BBQ.

Whether people who say they will support their local business have the character to stick to those principles, we'll see.

Of course they haven't, plus in any case that's all rubbish, the high street didn't 'come through' most of it was closed

And amazon deliveries were mostly still very quick

[Mac76]

Amazon hit the jackpot with that fixture.

The bbc fixtures are dull as dishwater too, though bournemouth - palace might just be bearable

[Marc Overmars]

I imagine all the BBC matches will involve the dregs. No chance they’re getting any say given it’s the other broadcasters who’ve paid big money for the rights.

[Mac76]

yes it's no surprise really

[Niall_Quinn]

Of course they haven't, plus in any case that's all rubbish, the high street didn't 'come through' most of it was closed

And amazon deliveries were mostly still very quick

So you had a different experience. Maybe you live in a shit community. A large number of shops in my town quickly went online and diversified into sourcing and delivering all the things Amazon and the supermarkets couldn't. They did a great job and I'll be continuing to pay them instead of that queer cunt Bezos. Amazon was shit throughout. No stock. Price gougers. Tons of chink accounts. Shitty delivery times that were always being extended. I'll stick with what worked.

[Niall_Quinn]

I imagine all the BBC matches will involve the dregs. No chance they’re getting any say given it’s the other broadcasters who’ve paid big money for the rights.

It'll be nice to see Arsenal on BBC again.

[Letters]

So you had a different experience. Maybe you live in a shit community. A large number of shops in my town quickly went online and diversified into sourcing and delivering all the things Amazon and the supermarkets couldn't. They did a great job and I'll be continuing to pay them instead of that queer cunt Bezos. Amazon was shit throughout. No stock. Price gougers. Tons of chink accounts. Shitty delivery times that were always being extended. I'll stick with what worked.

Have to say my experience has been similar to Mac’s.
Things I would generally have bought on the high street I got from Amazon because there wasn’t an alternative.
Prices were fine, delivery times were good (as discussed, I have Prime, so maybe that helped).
I think the high street as it was has pretty much died and I doubt it’s coming back.
Supermarkets are convenient, Amazon is convenient.
And both have the buying power (and, let’s face it, they exploit their workers) to make it cheap.

You make hark back to a simpler time when everyone would go to the butchers and fishmongers and they’d all know everyone but that’s gone now. But don’t worry, I have over 300 FB friends instead and am universally loved on here
:trophy:

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't buy stuff I don't need. So I'm talking day to day items like flour, organic vegetables, meat,.. In the first couple of weeks the supermarkets had none of this. Small providers stepped in to cover the shortages, probably not possible in cities but it worked well in a rural community. As for Amazon, they consistently refuse to put filters on their site that allow Chinese sellers to be excluded. 50% of the platform has been swamped by Chinese accounts in the last few years and the service and quality across the board has dropped sharply as a result. Legitimate sellers are being pushed out. People who like cheap, disposable consumer goods will see this as a good thing (while warning us the planet is running out of resources, I suppose). But if you want quality and authenticity, Amazon is pot luck.

[Marc Overmars]

I must say I’ve shopped more at local businesses during this whole thing, they had everything we needed during the early days when you couldn’t find anything on supermarket shelves. There’s also something quite nice about being remembered when you return and striking up a convo with the butcher or baker etc. Also for what it’s worth I think the quality of produce is also much better. Obviously supermarkets are great for convenience but my eyes have definitely been opened to local business now and I’ll try to support them when I can.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I do a mixture, supermarket to get me through most of the days in the week, then the local shops to top me up getting to the same point the following week.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53058264

Fans on big screens and cameras to celebrate in front of. :wacko:

Drinks break of one minute midway through each half.

Integrity. :bow:

[Letters]

I've always felt that one thing missing from football is the audio from the coin toss.


This is all increasingly farcical.

[Mac76]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53058264

Drinks break of one minute midway through each half.



they're inserting a break to get more adverts in - that's it then, traditional football is finished

this will eventually be formalised into a game with quarters instead of halves like the US wanted to do with the WC in '94 - TV is using this to take over the game and transform it beyond recognition

[Letters]

The final table this season will have one massive asterisk by it.

[GP]

It will, but would you care?

[Marc Overmars]

I'd take a 4th place* finish tbf.

[Letters]

It will, but would you care?

I guess that depends on where we end up but the end result won't be what it would have been, Liverpool winning the title aside.

[GP]

IF you were a Liverpool fan, would you care?

[Letters]

Probably not. Although they'd won it fair and square before all this anyway so they can justifiably claim it didn't change the outcome there.

[Özim]

I'd take a 4th place* finish tbf.

Do you believe in the tooth fairy?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The Rock. :bow:

[selassie]

Do you believe in the tooth fairy?

We vil surprise you ;)

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