Arsenal v Crystal Palace, 20:00 BST, (18/10, SS Main Event).

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vieira. :bow:

We have problems with Palace at home, although not really that exclusive a list recently I guess.

[Marc Overmars]

Vieira. :bow:

[GP]

Quite a few games in a short period of time, seems like we haven't payed in ages.

Need to pick up some good points.

[Mac76]

0-3 Zaha hatter

[The Wengerbabies]

Didn't know Vieira was Palace gaffer, why didn't we hire him?

Vieira :bow:

[Mac76]

32Ramsdale
18Tomiyasu
4White
6Gabriel
3Tierney
5Partey
8Ødegaard
19Pépé
10Smith Rowe
7Saka
14Aubameyang

Substitutes
1Leno
9Lacazette
15Maitland-Niles
16Holding
17Cédric Soares
20Varela Tavares
23Sambi Lokonga
25Elneny
35Martinelli

Good lineup, i like the idea of Odegaard dropping back and bringing Pepe in

Really hope he has a good game

COYG

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Palace: Guaita, Ward, Andersen, Guehi, Mitchell, Gallagher, Milivojevic, McArthur, Ayew, Edouard, Benteke.
Subs: Butland, Tomkins, Olise, Kouyate, Hughes, Mateta, Schlupp, Clyne, Kelly.

No Zaha.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

AUBAMEYANG!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Was a great effort from Pepe to make the save happen.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Smith Rowe shoots but falls over in doing so.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Partey smacks it, one day maybe.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bentekkers shot but Ramsdale saves.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Edouard puts it, over.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saka booked.

Don't really like him on the left anymore.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fight fight fight!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

McArthur booked.

Why isn't that a red? Surely not going for the ball?

[LDG]

McCarthur twat

[LDG]

Partey is awlful tonight.

[Letters]

McArthur booked.

Why isn't that a red? Surely not going for the ball?

It was an awful…I was going to say tackle but it was just an assault really.
And he got away with the other one, he should be off really.

We’ve been pretty shit so far since I started watching

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Partey. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good save from Ramsdale.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 HT.

Awful.

[Letters]

Ramsdale :bow:

1-0 HT

[LDG]

Dog shit after the goal.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saka off injured presumably, Lokonga on.

[LDG]

Partey you twat

1-1

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 Bentekkers.

Hopeless from Partey.

[Letters]

Partey you twat

1-1
£45m :haha:

:doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lovely pass from Odegaard and initial turn from Smith Rowe.

[Letters]

Lovely pass from Odegaard and initial turn from Smith Rowe.

ESR is great.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsdale saves from Ayew.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Odegaard off, Lacazette on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Milivojevic off, Kouyate on.

[GP]

Much better

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Smith Rowe fluffer.

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Ayew off, Olise on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lovely play, save to deny Lacazette.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-2 Edouard. From a Lokonga fuck up.

[Letters]

Much better

It was.
And then…

:doh:

We are a really poor side.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How is that not a yellow Dean?

Fuck off.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Martinelli coming on. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Partey well and truly hauled off for Martinelli.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Edouard off, Tomkins on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tierney smashes the bar.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pel surely?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Clear foul. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

LACAZETTE!!!

[Letters]

Meh. Twats.
We can’t create clear chances.
We still play with the handbrake on till we are 2-1 down.
After that we did step up a bit but see point one - we don’t create chances or score goals.
We did against Spurs and we did so by moving the ball forward quickly.
Who’d a thunk it?
So why don’t they do it more?
More mid-table dross this season.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Went too early. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It is indeed 2-2.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-2 FT.

[GP]

Poor

Edu out!

[Marc Overmars]

So beating Spurs wasn’t the turning point then?

[Bumble]

Meh. Twats.
We can’t create clear chances.
We still play with the handbrake on till we are 2-1 down.
After that we did step up a bit but see point one - we don’t create chances or score goals.
We did against Spurs and we did so by moving the ball forward quickly.
Who’d a thunk it?
So why don’t they do it more?
More mid-table dross this season.

Maybe the team cant play like that each week. Maybe its only nld that drove them forward that day. If it was everton or villa would we have played the same way.

We dont score enough from midfield or anywhere really.

[Letters]

2-2 FT.

Oh! :lol:

I gave up too!

Still not good enough.

[Mac76]

Was at the game, good for first 15-20 mins then awful

We showed a bit of spirit right at the end to get the draw but overall it was dire

What the hell has happened to Tierney, all the attacking play has gone almost and he passed backwards most of the time instead of trying to beat people

Odegaard didn't work as well as i'd hoped further back but was generally poor anyway

Everyone kept giving the ball away, White in particular was bad

I'd say Gabriel and Ramsdale were the only two that were really solid

Arteta needs to get them playing a lot better than this or the pressure will build again

[Niall_Quinn]

So beating Spurs wasn’t the turning point then?

Nobody could have predicted that.

However, the next time...

[Letters]

Nobody could have predicted that.

However, the next time...
Well. There were some people who thought we’d be mixing it with all but the top couple of teams in no time after a previous manager left, so…

[Bumble]

Well. There were some people who thought we’d be mixing it with all but the top couple of teams in no time after a previous manager left, so…

Perhaps it is difficult to transition from long serving manager to a new manager. look at United... and Fergie left them as a title winning team. They have spent a shed load of money.

We may not be top 4 for another 10 years+. it could be a case of we need more than just a good manager. top 6 should be achievable.

It was Wengers time to go as you know but people did overdo how easy it would be to replace.

[Letters]

It was Wengers time to go as you know but people did overdo how easy it would be to replace.
I wasn’t bowled over by Emery but his first season showed some promise.
There was a Wengeresque collapse at the end and we lost the Europa League final (yeah, take a year off winning the final when you’re with us, Unai. Cheers for that!). But overall it was a reasonable season. It felt like a reasonable base to push on from. But the following season was a bloody car crash. I don’t think any of us felt Arteta was “the answer” but he has the Arsenal connection, he worked under Pep, he talked a good game and is pretty likeable. Most people were willing to give him a chance. It’s hard to know what to make of him. Last season the run up to Christmas was literally relegation form. From Boxing Day onwards we looked pretty good. It all added up to a poor season but the run in gave him a stay of execution and the money spent in the summer suggests the board are backing him. But so far this season it’s been a mess. They just look so disjointed, it’s really hard to see what they’re trying to do. I think it’s time to move on and get someone with real experience in.

I never saw getting rid of Wenger as a silver bullet. There are problems at board level which a new manager won’t fix. That said I was fairly confident that a new manager would improve things and get us heading towards the top 4 again. I never expected us to become quite this awful :(

[Letters]

The second half of last season gave me some hope.
And I know we’ve got excited about “good runs” before but it was a whole half season and I think over that half we were 3rd or something (maybe second?).
So there was some hope that we’d carry some momentum over, especially as we weren’t exactly frugal in the summer. But it’s the same shit this season. 1 good performance, 2 bad. Some good results, some good results, some bad.
There’s no clear progression or feeling that they’re building something.