Crystal Palace V Arsenal, KO Aug 5, 2000 BST

[fakeyank]

First game of season. We are riding high on our preseason games.

Definite loss 2-1

[Marc Overmars]

Exciting new signings, positive pre-season, what could possibly go wrong?

2-0

We must trust the process.

[HCZ_Reborn]

1-1 draw, take the lead and look like we are cruising but that lack of control in central midfield where we prioritised signing a back up left back over a central midfielder means chances dry up and we concede an equaliser in the second half because we sit back too much
Palace take control but can’t find a winner

[Letters]

Arteta Out!

[IBK]

Arteta Out!

:gp:

[GP]

0-3

[HCZ_Reborn]

0-3

Partey hat trick?

[Mac76]

3-0 Zaha hatter

[HCZ_Reborn]

Previous premier league record at Palace

Wins 7, Draws 4, Defeats 2

Goals for 21

Goals Against 16

[The Wengerbabies]

Must win.

[GP]

June 19, 1961 - Kuwait

January 1, 1962 - Samoa

July 1, 1962 - Burundi

July 1, 1962 - Rwanda

July 5, 1962 - Algeria

August 6, 1962 - Jamaica

August 31, 1962 - Trinidad and Tobago

October 9, 1962 - Uganda

December 12, 1963 - Kenya

April 26, 1964 - Tanzania

July 6, 1964 - Malawi

Sept.21, 1964 - Malta

October 24, 1964 - Zambia

February 18, 1965 - Gambia, The

July 26, 1965 - Maldives

August 9, 1965 - Singapore

May 26, 1966 - Guyana

May 26, 1966 - Guyana

September 30, 1966 - Botswana

October 4, 1966 - Lesotho

November 30, 1966 - Barbados

January 31, 1968 - Nauru

March 12, 1968 - Mauritius

Sept. 6, 1968 - Swaziland

October 12, 1968 - Equatorial

June 4, 1970 - Tonga

October 10, 1970 - Fiji

March 26, 1971 - Bangladesh

August 15, 1971 - Bahrain

Sept. 3, 1971 - Qatar

November 2, 1971 - United Arab Emirates

July 10, 1973 - Bahamas

Sept. 24, 1973 - Guinea-Bissau

February 7, 1974 - Grenada

June 25, 1975 - Mozambique

July 5, 1975 - Cape Verde

July 6, 1975 - Comoros

July 12, 1975 - Sao Tome and Principe

Sept. 16, 1975 - Papua New Guinea

November 11, 1975 - Angola

November 25, 1975 - Suriname

June 29, 1976 - Seychelles

June 27, 1977 - Djibouti

July 7, 1978 - Solomon Islands

October 1, 1978 - Tuvalu

November 3, 1978 - Dominica

February 22, 1979 - Saint Lucia

July 12, 1979 - Kiribati

October 27, 1979 - Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

April 18, 1980 - Zimbabwe

July 30, 1980 - Vanuatu

January 11, 1981 - Antigua and Barbuda

Sept.21, 1981 - Belize

Sept. 19, 1983 - Saint Kitts and Nevis

January 1, 1984 - Brunei

October 21, 1986 - Marshall Islands

November 3, 1986 - Micronesia, Federated States of

March 11, 1990 - Lithuania

March 21, 1990 - Namibia

May 22, 1990 - Yemen

April 9, 1991 - Georgia

June 25, 1991 - Croatia

June 25, 1991 - Slovenia

August 21, 1991 - Kyrgyzstan

August 24, 1991 - Russia

August 25, 1991 - Belarus

August 27, 1991 - Moldova

August 30, 1991 - Azerbaijan

Sept. 1, 1991 - Uzbekistan

Sept. 6, 1991 - Latvia

Sept. 8, 1991 - Macedonia

Sept. 9, 1991 - Tajikistan

Sept. 21, 1991 - Armenia

October 27, 1991 - Turkmenistan

November 24, 1991 - Ukraine

December 16, 1991 - Kazakhstan

March 3, 1992 - Bosnia and Herzegovina

January 1, 1993 - Czech Republic

January 1, 1993 - Slovakia

May 24, 1993 - Eritrea

October 1, 1994 - Palau

May 20, 2002 - East Timor

June 3, 2006 - Montenegro

June 5, 2006 - Serbia

February 17, 2008 - Kosovo

July 9, 2011 - South Sudan

[mandela8]

Fuckin mental we're starting another season with Xhaka in CM, ffs.

[HCZ_Reborn]

June 19, 1961 - Kuwait

January 1, 1962 - Samoa

July 1, 1962 - Burundi

July 1, 1962 - Rwanda

July 5, 1962 - Algeria

August 6, 1962 - Jamaica

August 31, 1962 - Trinidad and Tobago

October 9, 1962 - Uganda

December 12, 1963 - Kenya

April 26, 1964 - Tanzania

July 6, 1964 - Malawi

Sept.21, 1964 - Malta

October 24, 1964 - Zambia

February 18, 1965 - Gambia, The

July 26, 1965 - Maldives

August 9, 1965 - Singapore

May 26, 1966 - Guyana

May 26, 1966 - Guyana

September 30, 1966 - Botswana

October 4, 1966 - Lesotho

November 30, 1966 - Barbados

January 31, 1968 - Nauru

March 12, 1968 - Mauritius

Sept. 6, 1968 - Swaziland

October 12, 1968 - Equatorial

June 4, 1970 - Tonga

October 10, 1970 - Fiji

March 26, 1971 - Bangladesh

August 15, 1971 - Bahrain

Sept. 3, 1971 - Qatar

November 2, 1971 - United Arab Emirates

July 10, 1973 - Bahamas

Sept. 24, 1973 - Guinea-Bissau

February 7, 1974 - Grenada

June 25, 1975 - Mozambique

July 5, 1975 - Cape Verde

July 6, 1975 - Comoros

July 12, 1975 - Sao Tome and Principe

Sept. 16, 1975 - Papua New Guinea

November 11, 1975 - Angola

November 25, 1975 - Suriname

June 29, 1976 - Seychelles

June 27, 1977 - Djibouti

July 7, 1978 - Solomon Islands

October 1, 1978 - Tuvalu

November 3, 1978 - Dominica

February 22, 1979 - Saint Lucia

July 12, 1979 - Kiribati

October 27, 1979 - Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

April 18, 1980 - Zimbabwe

July 30, 1980 - Vanuatu

January 11, 1981 - Antigua and Barbuda

Sept.21, 1981 - Belize

Sept. 19, 1983 - Saint Kitts and Nevis

January 1, 1984 - Brunei

October 21, 1986 - Marshall Islands

November 3, 1986 - Micronesia, Federated States of

March 11, 1990 - Lithuania

March 21, 1990 - Namibia

May 22, 1990 - Yemen

April 9, 1991 - Georgia

June 25, 1991 - Croatia

June 25, 1991 - Slovenia

August 21, 1991 - Kyrgyzstan

August 24, 1991 - Russia

August 25, 1991 - Belarus

August 27, 1991 - Moldova

August 30, 1991 - Azerbaijan

Sept. 1, 1991 - Uzbekistan

Sept. 6, 1991 - Latvia

Sept. 8, 1991 - Macedonia

Sept. 9, 1991 - Tajikistan

Sept. 21, 1991 - Armenia

October 27, 1991 - Turkmenistan

November 24, 1991 - Ukraine

December 16, 1991 - Kazakhstan

March 3, 1992 - Bosnia and Herzegovina

January 1, 1993 - Czech Republic

January 1, 1993 - Slovakia

May 24, 1993 - Eritrea

October 1, 1994 - Palau

May 20, 2002 - East Timor

June 3, 2006 - Montenegro

June 5, 2006 - Serbia

February 17, 2008 - Kosovo

July 9, 2011 - South Sudan


What’s that, a comprehensive list of dates and places where you interfered with underage boys?

[HCZ_Reborn]

Fuckin mental we're starting another season with Xhaka in CM, ffs.

Don’t…just depressing

[I am invisible]

Bored of losing to Palace - big win please.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Bored of losing to Palace - big win please.

Tend to draw more than lose against Palace, we have lost 3 from 11 against them, winning 3 and drawing 5

The main problem for us as always is conceding the first goal. The midfield is not built to chase a game

We don’t have the excuse of Covid like a year ago

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Same starting XI as Sevilla

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Crystal Palace: Guaita, Clyne, Guehi, Andersen, Mitchell, Doucoure, Eze, Schlupp, Ayew, Zaha, Edouard.
Subs: Johnstone, Ward, Milivojevic, Mateta, Hughes, Ebiowei, Richards, Riedewald, Plange.

Arsenal: Ramsale, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko, Partey, Xhaka, Saka, Odegaard, Martinelli, Gabriel Jesus.
Subs: Turner, Tierney, Cedric, Holding, Elneny, Lokonga, Nelson, Pepe, Nketiah.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vieira and Petit reuniting. :bow:

[GP]

What’s that, a comprehensive list of dates and places where you interfered with underage boys?

A list of countries that didn't exist the last time Spurs won the league.

[Mac76]

Typical, we can't make top of the league in alphabetical order... (you need to click on the link before 8pm tonight...)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/table

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Five subs if I remember rightly this season?

[Mac76]

Palace: Guaita, Clyne, Guehi, Andersen, Mitchell, Schlupp, Doucoure, Ayew, Eze, Zaha, Edouard.
Subs: Johnstone, Ward, Richards, Riedewald, Milivojevic, Hughes, Plange, Mateta, Ebiowei.

Arsenal: Ramsdale, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko, Xhaka, Partey, Odegaard, Martinelli, Saka, Jesus.
Subs: Turner, Tierney, Soares, Holding, Elneny, Lokonga, Pepe, Nelson, Nketiah.

No problem Maccy ;)

[I am invisible]

Tend to draw more than lose against Palace, we have lost 3 from 11 against them, winning 3 and drawing 5

The main problem for us as always is conceding the first goal. The midfield is not built to chase a game

We don’t have the excuse of Covid like a year ago
Yeah, but a couple of those 3 feel very recent - need to cut that shit out before they become our new bogey team.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Yeah, but a couple of those 3 feel very recent - need to cut that shit out before they become our new bogey team.

2017, 2019 and 2022. So reasonably spaced out

If you want bogey sides look no further than Man City, ten losses in a row. Don’t care how much money they spaff up the wall that’s shameful

Everton at Goodison Park (three losses from last four visits) more of a bogey side than Palace

No guarantees but to be honest Xhaka starting aside, it’s a good time to be playing them

[McNamara That Ghost...]

New graphic in the top left corner.

I hate it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Palace: Guaita, Clyne, Guehi, Andersen, Mitchell, Schlupp, Doucoure, Ayew, Eze, Zaha, Edouard.
Subs: Johnstone, Ward, Richards, Riedewald, Milivojevic, Hughes, Plange, Mateta, Ebiowei.

Arsenal: Ramsdale, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko, Xhaka, Partey, Odegaard, Martinelli, Saka, Jesus.
Subs: Turner, Tierney, Soares, Holding, Elneny, Lokonga, Pepe, Nelson, Nketiah.

No problem Maccy ;)

I did this earlier. :unsure:

[Mac76]

Xhaka starting aside, it’s a good time to be playing them

Like you say, take him out of the side and we could start to get excited

It will be a black mark against Arteta for as long as he thinks Xhaka's good enough to be at the club, yet alone in the starting eleven

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That was great from Jesus.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Zinchenko shot saved!

[Marc Overmars]

Martinelli. :doh:

As wasteful as ever.

[I am invisible]

2017, 2019 and 2022. So reasonably spaced out

If you want bogey sides look no further than Man City, ten losses in a row. Don’t care how much money they spaff up the wall that’s shameful

Everton at Goodison Park (three losses from last four visits) more of a bogey side than Palace

No guarantees but to be honest Xhaka starting aside, it’s a good time to be playing them
Was the one before last one really 2019?! Fucking hell that’s gone by quick!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

MARTINELLI!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jesus looking good.

And giving them a good kicking too.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsdale is bored.

[Mac76]

MARTINELLI!!!

And Zinchenko

Tierney :pal: (too soon?)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Well done Saka.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saliba. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good save from Ramsdale.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Xhaka booked for diving. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 HT.

Started very well but fallen back a bit.

Sounds familiar.

[HCZ_Reborn]

0-1 HT.

Started very well but fallen back a bit.

Sounds familiar.

Incredibly familiar and again it comes down to who we have in central midfield

We can’t impose ourselves on the game with Xhaka playing

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Schlupp shot, deflects behind.

[Mac76]

Incredibly familiar and again it comes down to who we have in central midfield

We can’t impose ourselves on the game with Xhaka playing

:gp:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Great save from Ramsdale!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Palace are so annoying to play.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Freekick to us, dangerous area.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Decent effort from Odegaard.

[Mac76]

Cmon Arsenal get a second ffs

[McNamara That Ghost...]

White booked.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What happened there? :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Saka.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not sure why it has taken this long until changes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Zinchenko off, Tierney on.

Jesus off, Nketiah on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

SAKA!!!

OG probably.

[Marc Overmars]

Get the fuck in

[GP]

Great win. Clean sheet.

Xhaka MotM

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-2 FT. :bow:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Good result but performance worries me, we are very good defensively I think Saliba is excellent but I still wonder where the chances to create goals comes from when we can’t keep possession and are pushed back for long spells. It’s not a beginning of the season thing it’s the way it was especially away from home for most of the season. This is why I keep saying a central midfielder is an absolute necessity. Xhaka just not good enough. That link between defence and attack just isn’t there.
Need two players in my opinion, a central midfielder and an attacking right sided winger.

[mandela8]

Good result but performance worries me, we are very good defensively I think Saliba is excellent but I still wonder where the chances to create goals comes from when we can’t keep possession and are pushed back for long spells. It’s not a beginning of the season thing it’s the way it was especially away from home for most of the season. This is why I keep saying a central midfielder is an absolute necessity. Xhaka just not good enough. That link between defence and attack just isn’t there.
Need two players in my opinion, a central midfielder and an attacking right sided winger.

Agree with that.

Maybe Tierney comes in and Zinchenko goes into CM, but I've not seen him play there other than against Scotland when he was imperious, tbf, but it was against Scotland, tbf.

[Mac76]

Top of the league :trophy:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/table

[HCZ_Reborn]

Agree with that.

Maybe Tierney comes in and Zinchenko goes into CM, but I've not seen him play there other than against Scotland when he was imperious, tbf, but it was against Scotland, tbf.


We shouldn’t need to be playing a wing back system for a start. It’s fine if you’re going away to spurs, Liverpool, City or Chelsea but at Palace it shows a massive inferiority complex.

If we don’t sign Tielemans that Lego haired autistic can fuck off

[Mac76]

We did win 2-0 you know, Palace away has been a very tricky tie for us in recent years

[HCZ_Reborn]

We did win 2-0 you know, Palace away has been a very tricky tie for us in recent years

And? The result is good…the performance was same old

Palace were undercooked, had difficult pre-season preparations because some of their players came down with Covid

We have yet again not done enough in the transfer market, the fact that we’ve come into the season without a central midfielder is criminal.

Being dominated for two thirds of the game by a mid table team is not something I enjoy sorry

[LDG]

And? The result is good…the performance was same old

Palace were undercooked, had difficult pre-season preparations because some of their players came down with Covid

We have yet again not done enough in the transfer market, the fact that we’ve come into the season without a central midfielder is criminal.

Being dominated for two thirds of the game by a mid table team is not something I enjoy sorry

We started the 92/93 season much better tbf. Much more enjoyable

[Mac76]

We have yet again not done enough in the transfer market, the fact that we’ve come into the season without a central midfielder is criminal.



IKR, but hoping we've got something cooking, although Arteta's devotion to Xhaka doesn't seem to be waning sadly.

But i fully expected us to draw at best, so tbh i'll take it

[mandela8]

And? The result is good…the performance was same old

Palace were undercooked, had difficult pre-season preparations because some of their players came down with Covid

We have yet again not done enough in the transfer market, the fact that we’ve come into the season without a central midfielder is criminal.

Being dominated for two thirds of the game by a mid table team is not something I enjoy sorry

First game of the season.

Good performances are pretty rare and not THAT important, man. 3 points sets arsenal up for a nice run of games

[HCZ_Reborn]

First game of the season.

Good performances are pretty rare and not THAT important, man. 3 points sets arsenal up for a nice run of games

I would agree IF this wasn’t the same kind of performance we saw constantly last season that saw us lose as many games as we won on the road

[LDG]

I would agree IF this wasn’t the same kind of performance we saw constantly last season that saw us lose as many games as we won on the road

I think we’ve been pretty consistent on the road this season so far

[fakeyank]

Saliba and White were huge positives. Xhaka as usual was useless but at least didnt get the second yellow and derail the entire game.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Saliba and White were huge positives. Xhaka as usual was useless but at least didnt get the second yellow and derail the entire game.

Saliba was excellent, he plays with such maturity the way he closes down space for attackers

[Xhaka Can’t]

We started the 92/93 season much better tbf. Much more enjoyable

We lost our first game at home to Norwich, 2-4.

Other than that, it was great.

[Letters]

:lol:

I wonder where Zim got to. He’s probably out there somewhere moaning about something

[Xhaka Can’t]

He’s alive and well in the other place

[HCZ_Reborn]

He’s alive and well in the other place

The House of Lords?

Probably worse people in there I guess