General Football Nonsense

[Cripps_orig]

GB with Uruguay :popcorn:

Will Suarez play?

[Cripps_orig]

Spain and Honduras

[Cripps_orig]

UAE in with GB and Uruguay

[Cripps_orig]

Korea in B

[Cripps_orig]

New Zealand in with Brazil and Belarus i think

[Cripps_orig]

So Group A is

GB
Uruguay
UAE
Senegal

[McNamara That Ghost...]

GB vs Senegal is the opening game of the men's tournament.

GB vs NZ on the Women's side opens the whole Olympics.

[Cripps_orig]

MEN'S OLYMPIC FOOTBALL DRAW
Group A:Great Britain, Senegal, Uruguay, UAE

Group B:Mexico, South Korea, Gabon, Switzerland

Group C: Brazil, Belarus, New Zealand, Egypt

Group D:Spain, Honduras, Japan, Morocco

[Cripps_orig]

Crooks says its an easy group for GB

Yeah for a bunch of players who have never played together :lol:

Also i just realised, no Argies? Arent they the holders? :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Uruguay knocked Argentina out in qualifying. :lol:

[Syn]

Stuart Pearce says we're allowed 3 'over-age' players...who are we thinking? Beckham :lol: Scholes? Giggs?

Think North London will be well represented.

Expect Oxlade, Ramsey, Gibbs, Bale, Livermore, (probably not Walker as he'll be in the Euros)

[Cripps_orig]

Becks will definitely go if fit and he'll be captain

Apparently Giggs is being considered as well

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

GB with Uruguay :popcorn:

Will Suarez play?
Hope not. Obviously depend son the whole over-age players.

Coates will though I imagine.

[Cripps_orig]

For all the betting fans on here, put money on Neymar winning golden boot.

He'll score minimum of 5 at least in the group alone

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Usual BS before a draw

How many teams are in the Olympics Football?

Worth doing a sweepstake?

yup to a Sweepstake! Hopefully I wont get left out of this one :pray:

[Syn]

-------------??--------------

??----Evans----??-----Gibbs

-Ramsey--Spearing--Livermore-

Oxlade----Sturridge------Bale


I think Wellbeck will go to the Euros or else he'd be in.

[Cripps_orig]

yup to a Sweepstake! Hopefully I wont get left out of this one :pray:Post in the relevant thread and you'll be added

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Stuart Pearce says we're allowed 3 'over-age' players...who are we thinking? Beckham :lol: Scholes? Giggs?

Think North London will be well represented.

Expect Oxlade, Ramsey, Gibbs, Bale, Livermore, (probably not Walker as he'll be in the Euros)

Surely not that over-aged?
no to Becks but no doubt will get the sentimental nod
Scoles is a good shout, as is Giggs otherwise who the fuck will represent Wales, Micky Thomas

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Surely not that over-aged?
no to Becks but no doubt will get the sentimental nod
Scoles is a good shout, as is Giggs otherwise who the fuck will represent Wales, Micky Thomas

:doh: just remembered Bale and his on gay pride goal celebration

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Crooks says its an easy group for GB

Yeah for a bunch of players who have never played together :lol:

Also i just realised, no Argies? Arent they the holders? :lol:

Not sure their bothered, its not a competition people care about i mean did you care when the last one was played.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not sure their bothered, its not a competition people care about i mean did you care when the last one was played.

:doh:

Argentina take the Olympic football very seriously, as they do generally in South America. Just because we as a nation are arrogant enough to not give a shit about it does not mean other nations are the same.

[Cripps_orig]

Not sure their bothered, its not a competition people care about i mean did you care when the last one was played.

What Maccy said

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:doh:

Argentina take the Olympic football very seriously, as they do generally in South America. Just because we as a nation are arrogant enough to not give a shit about it does not mean other nations are the same.

Fair enough, just assumed no one really cared about it like the other big footie comps.

[Cripps_orig]

Theres a warrant issued for the arrest of Steven Pienaar

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-17825483

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What an idiot. The fine would've been pitiful, compartively, at best.

[GP]

http://ist1-2.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/1/_/_/_/1/1/1/P/a/11PaR/igdnq0.png

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:lol:

[Syn]

I really hope Phil Brown gets the WBA job. We are severely short of laughable figures.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sol Campbell has retired from football. :lol:

[ArsenalN5]

Thanks for the great memories Sol. :wave:

[Marc Overmars]

Jermaine Pennant arrested for apparently attacking a girl in a nightclub.

:rolleyes:

[Flavs]

Hasnt he just been done for drink driving as well

[Cripps_orig]

The Premier League has issued an invitation to tender for the domestic UK broadcast rights for the 2013-14 to 2015-16 football seasons.

It says 154 matches will be shown live on TV each season from 2013-14 - 16 more than currently broadcast and more than 40% of all top-level matches

The extra 16 live games comes as matches are moved away from Saturday 15:00 kick-off times, due to Europa League involvement or police advice.

No 15:00 kick-offs can be shown live.

The 154 games will be split into seven packages comprising five packages of 26 matches and two packages of 12 matches. No one buyer will be allowed to buy more than five packages or 116 matches.

The current rights are held by Sky and ESPN, and a challenge from Al Jazeera is also expected this time round.

"This creates a more attractive and compelling offering for both broadcasters and fans; whilst allowing the continued protection of the Saturday 3pm 'closed window' and minimising further displacement of Premier League fixtures," said the league.

Another sales process will be conducted for two "near live" packages each containing 226 matches, and an internet-based clips package for all 380 matches.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17950726

Any chance of it coming back to normal tv?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not unless we provide a whipround.

[KSE Comedy Club]

The packages for tv coverage are shit for this day and age.

I would love to be able to buy a tv season ticket that allows access to every arsenal game throughout the season and I'm sure there are plenty of other people that would like to do the same for the clubs they support.

They should also cut the blatant bullshit with not showing 3pm games as well, at the end of the day, the fans that go to games will still go to the games and the people that can't will be ale to watch them too.

Win, win tbh.

[GP]

Chelsea are £734m in debt :wacko:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-premier-league-is-to-blame-for-owners-acting-like-headless-chickens-7723278.html

They should not be allowed to operate like that. It's scandalous.

[Hump]

Football support as it should be http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/9692198.How_the_Hartlepool_Smurfs_went_global/

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea are £734m in debt :wacko:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-premier-league-is-to-blame-for-owners-acting-like-headless-chickens-7723278.html

They should not be allowed to operate like that. It's scandalous.

What's their turnover? :wacko:

[Hump]

roughly one manager every 53 games

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

What's his source for these figures?

It just seems like he's made them up.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

roughly one manager every 53 games

:lol:

Also, I did think the Liverpool figure was too steep.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9255617/Revealed-the-financial-health-of-the-Premier-League-laid-bare.html

This one seems more accurate.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9255617/Revealed-the-financial-health-of-the-Premier-League-laid-bare.html

This one seems more accurate.
Even that one seems a little steep. I can't see, even from their more detailed figures, how they've gone from saying we had ~£38m debt when FSG took over, to ~£65m now.

All incidental though, I'm sure the new FFP rules will sort things out.... :sarcy:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Perhaps they're crudely working it out. The truth is somewhere in the middle between those figures you mentioned though, as we now know.

It's not a huge surprise the Citeh are the only ones that has wages dwarfing their income. However it is surprising they apparently had £88 million in unpaid transfer fees. :unsure:

It also suggests that the days of us pissing about over a million here or there should really be over.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Perhaps they're crudely working it out. The truth is somewhere in the middle between those figures you mentioned though, as we now know.

It's not a huge surprise the Citeh are the only ones that has wages dwarfing their income. However it is surprising they apparently had £88 million in unpaid transfer fees. :unsure:

It also suggests that the days of us pissing about over a million here or there should really be over.
Probably.

Who are the players you've missed out on over £500k or whatever. I always read on here about Alonso (sigh) but nothing ever concrete.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Probably Mata too. :lol: Schwarzer. Maybe Reina (not sure about that one personally).

Phil Jones *phew*. We get linked with so many players, it's hard to remember.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Well we missed out on Mata (and Villa and Silva as I've said before :lol:) for 6 years so it could be worse.

I do remember something about Reina, but I don't think it was just down to a couple of million. I think we just rejected it and told you to sod off. I'm sure you're pleased with how it turned out.

As for Phil Jones, I'm not exactly bothered we missed out, either. I'm sure he'll win a small collection of medals though.

You could have not been bothered about the fees and signed Downing, Henderson and Carroll though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Phil Jones is 'versatile', i.e not good enough to hold one position down.

It's funny how you broke our transfer record about four times over with those signings. :lol:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Well I can think of other words to describe it.

It may seem obvious, but I think we'll see more restraint this year.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Larne's manager (NI) has resigned after 13 hours in the job. :lol:

Dear me.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

German Cup Final.

Borussia Dortmund 1-0 Bayern Munich, Kagawa. Klopp said before the game that the Premier League in Japan is all that matters, the Bundesliga does not. It does seem likely he will be going.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fergie and Mike Phelan are there. :doh:

1-1 Robben pelanty.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I'd like to think we'd be in for him. Would fit our supposed criteria.

Young, would get about a trillion yen in shirt sales, cheap, highly rated.

If only he were British.

Alas, if Fergie and Phelan are there I may as well cross him off the list.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And us.

:rose:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Borussia Dortmund 2-1 Bayen Munich, Hummels pelanty.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-1 Lewandowksi. Kagawa throughball I think.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

4-1 Lewandowski again, Kagawa again involved.

:blink:

Bayern. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

4-2, Ribery gets a consolation.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Neuer fuck-up.

5-2, Lewandowski hat-trick. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

5-2 FT. :rose:

Klopp. :bow:

[Dennis Bendtner]

Nicked this from RAWK. It's excellent. Lawro's weekly predictions collated into a league table.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/jyarden/2012/332.png

We're on a 21-match unbeaten run and set to make it 22 tomorrow, having lost only four games all season. United are breaking records and sweeping all before them, with 100 points and a 31-7-0 record. A 17-point gap between 7th and 8th. Wolves are sitting pretty in the top half, despite a 7-match losing streak, and 12 losses in 13 games to the end of the season. Blackburn and QPR also well clear of the drop zone.

The man is a maverick.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool only lost one game all season long. :bow:

[Dennis Bendtner]

:lol:

7 consecutive draws must have been a hell of a time to be a Liverpool fan, too.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I bet it would've been one of the lowest scoring Premier League seasons of all time too. Lawro-bot activated: 1-1, 2-0.

[Xhaka Can’t]

United - the real Invincibles! :bow:

[Kano]

galatasary winning the league in fenerbahce’s stadium

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9zdoc04AiTs

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Gary Neville has been appointed to the England coaching staff on a four year contract.

:unsure:

[Marc Overmars]

Is he leaving Sky?

[Syn]

After the most embarrassing piece of commentary in sporting history, I think this is a sensible move for him. Stick to teaching Walker and Gibbs how to kick the shit out of the dirty foreigners, that's the only thing Neville can contribute to the world.

[Cripps_orig]

Hope he stays at Sky tbh

Excellent pundit and a decent commentator

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I imagine he would stay on with Sky, what else is he going to do for most of the season? Maybe he just wants a summer jolly.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Gary Neville on his appointment as part of the England coaching team:

"Roy Hodgson asking me to be a part of his staff and to work with the national team is not only an honour but a very special moment for me.

"I had absolutely no hesitation in accepting this role and I am relishing the opportunity to work alongside Roy and the team at the Euros and through to the next two tournaments."

Hope his analysis of other teams in the Euros won't rely on the clichés he reserves for European club teams.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

At least it will keep him off the TV a bit more.


Can anyone dub his reaction with Torres, to when Aguero scored?

[milla]

galatasary winning the league in fenerbahce’s stadium

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9zdoc04AiTs

Proper football fans :bow:

[Boss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7RGn4FWeHQ

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

He'll come good next season.

Will score at least 1.

Doesn't he usually have a slow start (am sure Rors can verify whether or not)? Granted this season was closer to going backwards but I guess the only way is up... :unsure:

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7RGn4FWeHQ

Padded to make him look better than he is, you can't trust these YouTube videos because they only show the good stuff.

[Master Splinter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7RGn4FWeHQ

:haha:

Even Chamakh had better stats than this.

Chamakh :bow:.

Great value for no money :bow:.

N_Q :haha:.

[GP]

:haha:

Even Chamakh had better stats than this.

Chamakh :bow:.

Great value for no money :bow:.

N_Q :haha:.

Chamakh was worth every penny of his transfer fee.

[Niall_Quinn]

Chamakh, no value - on great money :bow:

Arsenal :mugs:

[Cripps_orig]

It could be worse.

We could have had Bendtner this season

[Niall_Quinn]

Chamakh season highlights...

http://gettingworse.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/dog_poo.jpg

[Cripps_orig]

Could be worse.

Could have had Bendtner

[Xhaka Can’t]

Chamakh season highlights...

http://gettingworse.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/dog_poo.jpg

Nah. Too consistent and solid..

Chamakh, season highlights.

http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/05/diseases/Diarrhea-2.jpg

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Nigel Reo-Coker has decided to leave Bolton following their relegation from the Premier League.

The 28-year-old, who joined the club on a free transfer from Aston Villa last summer, activated a release clause in his contract that allows him to walk away from the Trotters.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/18/3111937/nigel-reo-coker-quits-bolton-following-clubs-relegation

[GP]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/18/3111937/nigel-reo-coker-quits-bolton-following-clubs-relegation

Sign him on!

[Marc Overmars]

Must get.

[Ollie the Optimist]

EXCLUSIVE: Whistle blown on 'unfit' Premier League referee Dowd
By ALAN BIGGS
PUBLISHED: 23:00, 22 May 2012 | UPDATED: 23:00, 22 May 2012
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Last game? Dowd with Steven Gerrard in the FA Cup final
Phil Dowd, one of England’s top referees, is facing a sudden fight to save his career after it emerged on Tuesday night that he has failed a fitness test to continue next season.
The news hit the 49-year-old Staffordshire official within three weeks of his proudest achievement of taking charge of the FA Cup final at Wembley.
Dowd, who became a Football League referee in 1997, has just completed his 12th season in the Premier League. He must work to regain the rigorous fitness standards required of elite referees if he is to make a 13th campaign.
Referees are regularly tested on a series of timed runs in order to meet the strict criteria. Dowd’s bosses want him to continue and there is no question of his age being an issue since the relaxation of automatic retirement rules.
He has always had a naturally stocky build but has never previously struggled to hit the fitness mark. The fact that referees have to take the test in May, immediately on the back of a long and strenuous season, may now be called into question.
Instead of having a chance to recharge his batteries ahead of the test, Dowd will go on holiday knowing his future is under threat more than three months ahead of the start of next season.

Race against time: Dowd intervenes as Nani confronts Jamie Carragher in 2011
In the 2011-12 season Dowd presided over 38 games at all levels, including 28 in the Premier League. Only three select group referees took charge of more games.
The Stoke-on-Trent based official enjoyed a trouble-free Cup final despite the initial controversy over whether an Andy Carroll header had crossed the line as Liverpool looked for a late equaliser in their 2-1 defeat by Chelsea. Assistant referee Andrew Garratt was shown to have been correct in refusing to award a goal.
By contrast, Dowd’s other appearance in a domestic final - Manchester United’s 2-1 League Cup triumph over Aston Villa in 2010 - was marred by an early misjudgement.
Refereeing experts agreed with most pundits that United’s Nemanja Vidic should have been sent off after bringing down Gabby Agbonlahor and denying a clear goalscoring opportunity.
Villa were given a penalty but Vidic escaped punishment.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2148389/Phil-Dowd-fails-fitness-test.html#ixzz1vdtA1VjT

phil dowd is not fit to referee next season. good the useless fat ****

[Olivier's xmas twist]

phil dowd is not fit to referee next season. good the useless fat ****

About time too tbh.

[Niall_Quinn]

phil dowd is not fit to referee next season. good the useless fat ****

All they can get him on is his actual fitness?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Apparantly its to cover the accusation against him that he stole all the pies from the ref's canteen, ate half and sold the rest on the black market to similarly shaped individual, posing as a football manager ang going by the unusual moniker of Fat Sam

[Kano]

phil dowd is not fit to referee next season. good the useless fat ****
have you ever tried to do those fitness tests?

fuck me they are hard.

[Kano]

20 Year Prem table

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11096/7773572/The-20-year-table

[GP]

20 Year Prem table

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11096/7773572/The-20-year-table

MOST GOALS CONCEDED: Tottenham (1020)

:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

20 Year Prem table

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11096/7773572/The-20-year-table

Utd lucky to be top of that table.

[Kano]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLFgSBfKimo&feature=player_embedded

officially the fastest ever free kick (beating r carlos)

stop that ya ****

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jesus christ.

[Rors]

'inell! :wacko:

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLFgSBfKimo&feature=player_embedded

officially the fastest ever free kick (beating r carlos)

stop that ya ****

Awful defending, shocking.

[Niall_Quinn]

Here's some good defending.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VuoQK1EN0O8

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5iyS8fEBgUbLvfLRJfE_E2pstXhgQ?docId=N03285213 37947809310A

BBC :bow:

[Dennis Bendtner]

MOTD on iPlayer is an interesting development. Though I've probably got loads on series link that I haven't even touched so prolly won't be that useful. But yeah, previously the rights would not be allowed for the Saturday games for whatever reason.

[Gubby Allen]

Wembley to trial cliché-detecting technology
A NEW type of predictable pundit platitude software is to be tested at England’s forthcoming game against Belgium.

If successful, the technology could drastically reduce how often people at home scream at their television whilst frantically looking for the remote control.

Developer Tom Logan said: “We’ve produced an algorithm that recognises key consonant clusters such as ‘giving the manager some difficult choices’ and ‘schoolboy error’ as well as raised pitch whenever Rooney gets the ball in the assumption he’s going to score.

“It’s worked well in trials but every time we plug it into Clive Tyldesley it keeps exploding.”

The software works by cutting off shopworn phrases within the first three syllables by emitting a loud burst of white noise.

It will not be ready in time for the 2012-2013 domestic season, meaning at least another year of the phrase ‘a point to prove’ whenever Manchester United play against City and Logan says that some broadcasters might find the system too expensive to implement.

Logan said: “And yes, I completely mean Channel 5 when I say that. I can create the technology to rid the world Jonathan Pearce but there has to be the financial willingness to do so.”

Future applications for the software include a tannoy system for pubs, which would obliterate the opinions of the man who has sat himself next to you and insists on giving his reasons why Arsenal’s current system isn’t working.

Logan said: “The ultimate challenge will be if England draw Germany in Euro 2012. And it goes to penalties. And Southgate’s in the commentary box. It’ll be like the perfect storm of horseshit.”



http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/wembley-to-trial-cliche-detecting-technology-2012052528504

[Marc Overmars]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4353766/Craig-Bellamy-breaks-Olympic-code-to-say-hes-in-Team-GB.html

Bellamy one of the 3 overage players for Team GB.

Got to think Becks will be there and probably Giggs as well.

[GP]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4353766/Craig-Bellamy-breaks-Olympic-code-to-say-hes-in-Team-GB.html

Bellamy one of the 3 overage players for Team GB.

Got to think Becks will be there and probably Giggs as well.

Makes a mockery of the whole thing.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4353766/Craig-Bellamy-breaks-Olympic-code-to-say-hes-in-Team-GB.html

Bellamy one of the 3 overage players for Team GB.

Got to think Becks will be there and probably Giggs as well.Bellamy :doh:

Not only is he a bit shit but he reveals that hes in the squad thus breaking the code of silence

Hope hes dropped

[Boss]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2012/6/6/1338981324318/Cardiff-Citys-new-red-hom-008.jpg

:lol:


Cardiff have confirmed they will now play in red rather than their traditional blue kit after the club's Malaysian owners formally unveiled a new image for the Welsh side. The switch – which also includes a new crest and takes effect immediately – comes after the club's hierarchy approved the decision at a board meeting.

The club have unveiled three new strips – a red home shirt, a blue away strip, and a third kit, which is mainly black. The new kits bear a redesigned badge, incorporating a main image of a dragon, with a small bluebird inserted underneath, and carrying the slogan "Fire and Passion".

In addition, the club have announced plans to build a new training ground, pay off their debt with the Langston company, provide the manager Malky Mackay with a substantial kitty, and explore the possibility of expanding the Cardiff City Stadium.

The move came less than a month after the club's chairman Dato Chan Tien Ghee said the proposal to change to red shirts had been dropped due to "vociferous opposition" after the plans were leaked.

In an open letter to fans, the chairman said then: "We have no desire to cause offence or for people to think we have no respect for the club or its history as it would appear has been suggested in various quarters including by local assembly members."

He continued: "In the light of the vociferous opposition by a number of the fans to the proposals being considered ... we will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the next season with the current badge."

Today, the Cardiff chief executive, Alan Whiteley, said: "This is a major and significant financial commitment and we are grateful to our investors for their continued confidence in this football club. Concerning the commitment to developing the crest and to switch our primary colour to red, as directors – and as fans in our own right – we recognise that there is a history and commitment that goes with supporting Cardiff City and we are conscious and proud of the loyalty, bond and passion so many share for this club.

"At the same time, we also have to be prepared to be realistic and progressive. Sometimes in difficult economic times and challenging market conditions, in order to attract investment to survive and progress, brave, bold and compelling decisions and sacrifices need to be taken and made. By securing this investment we can safeguard the immediate and long-term future of this club."

But he added: "We are only too aware that the change of colour is a radical and some would say revolutionary move which will be met with unease and apprehension by a number of supporters, along with being seen as controversial by many. To those I would like to say that this was not a decision that has been taken lightly or without a great deal of thought and debate.

"There is no getting away from the fact that history and traditions are the lifeblood of any club and as such should be jealously guarded and preserved. Both the board and our investors fully understand and respect this and will do their utmost to uphold, protect and promote the values and virtues which the club stands for.

"However, the changes are believed to be vital to enable the club to progress to the next stage in its development and very much in the club's best long term interests."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/06/cardiff-city-red-kit-blue?newsfeed=true

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4365641/Premier-League-starlet-Andrew-Hall-is-held-on-girlfriend-knife-killing.html

Starting them young i see

Pulis must be so proud

[Flavs]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4365641/Premier-League-starlet-Andrew-Hall-is-held-on-girlfriend-knife-killing.html

Starting them young i see

Pulis must be so proud

he's not that kind of lad

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We're Stoke and we don't complain.

[Flavs]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18382013

W (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18382013)TF?

[Cripps_orig]

Arent we going to Nigeria in pre season?

[Flavs]

Arent we going to Nigeria in pre season?

Yep, Child trafficking :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

The wedding of Newcastle defender Danny Guthrie, 25, degenerated into a "mass brawl" at the weekend, with guests reportedly throwing lobster thermidor at each other and the local police called to the reception twice in the same evening.
Full story: Daily MailGHEL Weddings :bow:

[Master Splinter]

Shame The New Dids wasn't there.

[Boss]

Liverpool's third kit for next season :lol:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7281/wstm200z.jpg

:haha: :haha:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Wheelie bins :bow:

[GP]

That isn't real.

can't be.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

That isn't real.

can't be.
It's our new tactic of blinding the opposition.

I think it'd work.

BTW it is a photoshop, obviously, but it is meant to be based on the design, if not necessarily the brightness of the colours.

[GP]

Does it come with a complimentary red nose?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Danny Fullbrook, chief football writer for the Star has died aged 40. Cancer claims another one.

[Coney]

Danny Fullbrook, chief football writer for the Star has died aged 40. Cancer claims another one.


40???? That is so young.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

blatter saying goal-line technology is now not an option but a necessity.

love the fact everytime an english team or english players get the rub of the green this **** makes goal-line technology a priority. up until the champions league final he was trying his hardest to slow down the process of implementation. fucking wanker. if you ever needed proof he completely detests us there you have it.

[Marc Overmars]

Sounds like it will be implemented in the not too distant future.

Not even sure what's technological about it really. If there's a close call to be made, the ref only needs to ask some bloke watching it on a TV and he'll get his answer within seconds. A substitution probably eats up more time than it would take to find out whether the ball has crossed the line or not.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tigre might win the league in Argentina this season.

And still get relegated. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Also, Blackeye's new DoF?

Shebby Singh. :bow:

http://soccercentral.ph/sites/default/files/images/shebbysingh.jpg

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

The guy who said Gerrard is most suited to right back, Giggs at centre back and Huddlestone was a better player than Alonso. :lol:

And, seemingly, the author of http://www.tnp.sg/content/kean-must-go :blink:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The very same guy. Venky's are great.

[GP]

Adam Richman ‏@AdamRichman
“@hasytom: how come you support spurs?” The club's history, I'm Jewish, Gareth Bale, Keane, Parker, Van de Vaart, Gazza, Audere est Facere


Fuck that guy...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

You think you know somone.

Go eat 74 800lb burgers Adam.

[Boss]

Graeme Le Saux, Martin Keown and Ray Parlour have all signed along with former United States striker Brian McBride, while David Seaman has come on board as goalkeeping coach for the Combined Counties Premier Division club.

The players have all been recruited by the Wembley technical adviser Terry Venables with the financial backing of club sponsors Budweiser, who are also the lead partner of the FA Cup.

The aim of the arrangement is "to see how far the club could go in future seasons of the FA Cup".

The Football Association insisted Wembley, whose club motto is 'A Posse Ad Esse' - from possibility to reality - had not broken any rules in signing the players.

The FA also stressed their own sponsorship deal with Budweiser was "entirely separate" to Wembley FC's tie-up with the American beer firm.

Budweiser believe they are "championing the magic of the FA Cup" as part of their overall strategy for sponsoring the competition.

Jason Warner, Global VP Budweiser, said: "We are pleased to continue to support Wembley FC as they strive to achieve their dreams and we think their story will appeal to - and inspire - football fans around the world."

There were no concerns from Wembley manager Ian Bates that the club was being used by its sponsors, who came on board in March and brought Venables to the club.

"The initiative shines a light on non-league football, reminding people of the importance of amateur football in contributing to the development of the national game," Bates said.

"A year ago we were playing in front of an empty grandstand and the clubhouse was falling down. Now the investment means great times are waiting for Wembley FC and we can't wait to kick off our FA Cup campaign."

The former professionals have been coaching Wembley's 34-strong squad over the last four months.

But they are now registered as players and will be available for Wembley FC's first FA Cup fixture of the new season, in the extra preliminary round on August 11.

"What they (Budweiser) are doing is giving Wembley FC players a chance to learn and play with some great ex-pros and see what it is like," Seaman said.

"This is a great chance and why not carry it on and do it in other clubs?"

http://www.football365.com/news/21554/7833744/Caniggia-Keown-Parlour-Etc-To-Play-In-FA-Cup

Interesting stuff.

Parlour :bow: :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

In the FIFA meeting in July, there'll be talk of goal line technology, getting rid of the head to head record at tournaments and players to not receive a red card if a penalty is given

[Flavs]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18576519

23 :(

:rose:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Horrible.

Cancer can GTFO.

[GP]

That's awful :(

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Wow, didn't even know he was ill.

Such a shame.

[Dennis Bendtner]

That's sad. Am I imagining it or was there another ex-Liverpool youngster who died quite recently too?*

Joey Barton fined six weeks wages and stripped of the QPR captaincy.

*Besian Idrizaj I was thinking of, though it was a couple of years ago.

[Cripps_orig]

MICHEL PLATINI has warned FIFA they are making a "historical mistake" by introducing goal-line technology.

Trials are already underway to find a new system which can detect whether the ball has crossed the line during matches.

And if they are successful, the technology could even be used in the Premier League next season.

FIFA president Sepp Blatter insisted it was a "necessity" after Ukraine were denied a goal against England at Euro 2012.

However, UEFA chief Platini — who has always been against technology in football — disagrees with his FIFA counterpart.

Platini has been tipped to replace Blatter at the top of world football.

But he said: "For the moment, I am not the leader of FIFA. I don't know if I will be the next president of FIFA.

"But I think that the British and FIFA are making, for me, a historical mistake. It's a historical mistake. That's my view."

Platini's idea of having two extra officials behind the goal has received mixed views for fans and pundits.

Speaking in a video interview with the Independent, he added: "I have a problem with technology.

"In three years of the Champions League and Europa League we have had no mistakes.

"Twelve times the ball went over the line and the additional referees saw it and decided.

"Many penalties and fouls — with the exception of Ukarine's 'goal' against England — were decided by the (refereeing) team.

"But why I am against the technology of the video referee is because on the Ukraine goal there was offside at the beginning.

"If you want technology for the goal — what do we do if it's offside before?

"It means that the action has to be stopped before. That's why I am against technology. Where do we go?

"Every time there is a goal we come back and at the beginning of the action there is a clear offside — what do we do?

"I am totally against it. Let's have humans. I remain consistent.

"It's not a question of goal-line technology — it's the question of the beginning of technology in football.

"That I am totally against it."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/euro2012/4396320/Michel-Platini-Goal-line-technology-would-be-a-mistake.html

STFU Platini

[GP]

Wow, didn't even know he was ill.

Such a shame.

Apparently he was good friends with Puyol, who paid for all of his treatment.

Nice chap.

[Letters]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/euro2012/4396320/Michel-Platini-Goal-line-technology-would-be-a-mistake.html

STFU Platini
:gp:

The old 'where do you draw the line' argument holds little water because the issue of whether the ball crossed the line is not subjective. Pretty much every other decision in football is (although some cases are clearer than others). If the technology is there to get it right every time, and it is, then why persist in getting it wrong on occasion?

Personally I think the use of technology should go further in football (I've changed my mind about that over the last few years). And there is an issue of where you draw the line. But the argument about goal-line technology is over, there's no sensible counter-argument.

[Cripps_orig]

Just need that for technology tbh

Everything else should be done by humans

[Marc Overmars]

Apparently Becks has missed out on the Team GB squad. :faint:

Giggs, Bellamy and Micah Richards are the overage players.

[GP]

He's been retired for years and didn't deserve to be picked.

[Cripps_orig]

Apparently Becks has missed out on the Team GB squad. :faint:

Giggs, Bellamy and Micah Richards are the overage players.
Pearce :doh:

Hes had a shocker

Beckham deserves to be in. Still got it as seen in the MLS

[Coney]

Nothing wrong with Beckham wanting to captain the team. Nothing wrong with Pearce thinking that he needs to play other people. Non-story really.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He shouldn't be in there if it was just going to be for sentimental value. Good decision.

[Cripps_orig]

Hes still doing the business for LA Galaxy tbh

Dreadful decision

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4398796/Paul-Gascoigne-worse-for-wear-in-pictures-of-Middle-East-hotel-booze-up.html

Impressive hes not dead yet

Should be soon

Letters, do your thing

[Marc Overmars]

He looked and sounded grim in that advert ITV were running in the lead up to the Euros.

No doubt the writing is on the wall for him.

[Letters]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4398796/Paul-Gascoigne-worse-for-wear-in-pictures-of-Middle-East-hotel-booze-up.html

Impressive hes not dead yet

Should be soon

Letters, do your thing
Let me deal with Piers Morgan and Louis Spence first. I'll get to him though :good:

[Cripps_orig]

I didnt even understand him :lol:

No sympathy for him when he does croak it.

He knows hes had problems and still does all that shit

[Cripps_orig]

Let me deal with Piers Morgan and Louis Spence first. I'll get to him though :good:

Harsh on Morgan tbh. Hes a Gooner and that should be enough to pardon him.

Go nuts on Spence

[Boss]

Micah Richards as one of the three overage players?

:haha:

[Master Splinter]

He's been retired for years and didn't deserve to be picked.

Pretty much.

Has had about five good games since scoring that free-kick against Greece.

[GP]

Pretty much.

Has had about five good games since scoring that free-kick against Greece.

You're being quite generous there, but yeah, agreed.

[Letters]

He shouldn't be in there if it was just going to be for sentimental value. Good decision.
Micah Richards though? Really? :sarcy:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Well he's hardly great but there won't be too many options for that position. It's not like he is at the very end of his career.

[Cripps_orig]

Bale out of the Olympics with an injury

Team GB :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bale is doing it for Becks, starting a trend that Bellamy will follow.

[Cripps_orig]

Uefa president Michel Platini says the 2020 European Championship could be spread across various cities in Europe, rather than having a single host.
Traditionally one or two countries have hosted the tournament, which is being held in Poland and Ukraine this summer.
The next competition in 2016 will be hosted by France.
"The Euros in 2020 could be held all over Europe," said Platini. "It could be either one country and 12 stadiums, or one stadium in 12 or 13 cities."
Turkey had been favourite to host the event but their bid has hit difficulties due to a desire to host the Olympic Games in Istanbul in the same year.
Platini confirmed a final decision would be taken in January or February next year.
"This matter will be discussed very seriously," he added. "We will have a great debate about 2020 and discuss the pros and cons.
"It's an idea I feel really passionate about, it will be a lot easier from a financial perspective.
"We are not going to wait until we know whether Turkey are going to get the Olympics.
"It creates a problem for us. We do have other candidates. Everyone has the possibility to host it.
"It is easier to go from London to Paris or Berlin than Cardiff to Gdansk. It would be four games per venue. It is a great debate."
Platini added: "We are just thinking about it. I have said 12 or 13 host cities, it could be 24 or 32.
"It is the political decision that needs to be made. We wouldn't have to build stadiums or airports. That could be important in an economic crisis."
In January 2011, Platini called for the 2022 World Cup to be played across the whole of the Gulf after Qatar won the right to host the tournament.
Meanwhile, Platini has repeated his opposition to goal-line technology.
"I am against technology," he said at Saturday's press conference in Kiev.
"Where do we stop? There was a mistake in the Ukraine-England game.
"But there was an offside before that."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18657633

:doh:

He is determined to destroy Football

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He's an idiot. How can you have one stadium in 12 or 13 cities?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

It's an idea from someone who can hop around Europe on a private jet.

At least he's concentrating on the important aspects of the game though...

[Flavs]

Squad: J Allen (Swansea), C Bellamy (Liverpool), R Bertrand (Chelsea), J Butland (Birmingham), S Caulker (Tottenham), T Cleverley (Manchester United), J Cork (Southampton), C Dawson (West Brom), R Giggs (Manchester United), A Ramsey (Arsenal), M Richards (Manchester City), D Rose (Tottenham), S Sinclair (Swansea), M Sordell (Bolton), J Steele (Middlesbrough), D Sturridge (Chelsea), N Taylor (Swansea), J Tomkins (West Ham)

That's the squad for the Olympics

Ramsey :lol:

[GP]

Beckham :haha:

Left out and rightly so

[Cripps_orig]

What a shite ass squad

Any medal would be a miracle

Pearce :doh:

Needed Beckham in there. Hes been in great form recently and he deserved it plues hes a great captain

[Marc Overmars]

Butland

Richards Tomkins Caulker Gibbs

Sinclair Ramsey Cleverley Giggs

Bellamy Sturridge

[GP]

Full Team GB squad: Who? Never heard of him. Thingymajic. Whatsisface. Ah you know yer man. Whojamacallit. Some Spud. Wasn’t he in Eastenders? Aaron Ramsey. Erm. That fella with the hair. Another Spud. Craig Bellamy. Mr Roboto. Ryan Giggs. That’s not a real name, surely? A marble.

Coach: Maaaaaaat Daaaaaaaaamooooooon.

http://news.arseblog.com/2012/07/aaron-ramsey-and-the-five-hoops/

:haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Butland

Richards Tomkins Caulker Gibbs

Sinclair Ramsey Cleverley Giggs

Bellamy Sturridge

Gibbs isnt in it

[Flavs]

Butland

Richards Tomkins Caulker Gibbs

Sinclair Ramsey Cleverley Giggs

Bellamy Sturridge


Gibbs isnt in it

[Marc Overmars]

Gibbs isnt in it

Oh yeah, I was reading an old article on those rumoured to be in rather than looking at the confirmed squad. :doh:

In which case Taylor at left back.

[Cripps_orig]

Rose :bow:

That goal against us couple of seasons ago gets him in

[Cripps_orig]

Oh yeah, I was reading an old article on those rumoured to be in rather than looking at the confirmed squad. :doh:

In which case Taylor at left back.

I dont even know who this Taylor dude is

It'll probably be Bertrand

[Marc Overmars]

Swansealona left back, he was decent last season.

We might have chance of doing better in this than the Euros, given there are more players in this squad who can actually pass.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

we aint getting out the group with that squad

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Spain's squad (probably provisional):

Goalkeepers: David De Gea (Manchester United), Joel Robles (Atletico Madrid), Diego Marino (Villarreal).

Defenders: Azpilicueta (Olympique Marseille), Jordi Alba (Barcelona), Javier Martinez (Athletic), Dominguez (Borussia Monchengladbach), Montoya (Barcelona), Botia (Sporting Gijon), San Jose (Athletic), Iñigo Martínez (Real Sociedad).

Midfielders: Thiago Alcántara (Barcelona), Ander Herrera (Athletic), Koke (Atletico Madrid), Oriol Romeu (Chelsea), Isco (Malaga), Mata (Chelsea), Muniain (Athletic).

Strikers: Adrian (Atletico Madrid), Álvaro Vázquez (Espanyol), Tello (Barcelona), Rodrigo (Benfica).


:wacko:

[Marc Overmars]

Yeah, so they're winning gold.

[GP]

:lol:

Holy shit

[Marc Overmars]

It's funny how they're comfortable in letting Alba play, who played every game at the Euros.

Can you imagine the shit storm if say, Oxlade was picked for GB?

No wonder this country is miles behind in terms of youth development.

[Master Splinter]

Merida :lol:.

[fakeyank]

Spain's squad (probably provisional):

Goalkeepers: David De Gea (Manchester United), Joel Robles (Atletico Madrid), Diego Marino (Villarreal).

Defenders: Azpilicueta (Olympique Marseille), Jordi Alba (Barcelona), Javier Martinez (Athletic), Dominguez (Borussia Monchengladbach), Montoya (Barcelona), Botia (Sporting Gijon), San Jose (Athletic), Iñigo Martínez (Real Sociedad).

Midfielders: Thiago Alcántara (Barcelona), Ander Herrera (Athletic), Koke (Atletico Madrid), Oriol Romeu (Chelsea), Isco (Malaga), Mata (Chelsea), Muniain (Athletic).

Strikers: Adrian (Atletico Madrid), Álvaro Vázquez (Espanyol), Tello (Barcelona), Rodrigo (Benfica).


:wacko:

If da gay plays then they are bound to let in a couple of sitters..

[fakeyank]

Spain's squad (probably provisional):

Goalkeepers: David De Gea (Manchester United), Joel Robles (Atletico Madrid), Diego Marino (Villarreal).

Defenders: Azpilicueta (Olympique Marseille), Jordi Alba (Barcelona), Javier Martinez (Athletic), Dominguez (Borussia Monchengladbach), Montoya (Barcelona), Botia (Sporting Gijon), San Jose (Athletic), Iñigo Martínez (Real Sociedad).

Midfielders: Thiago Alcántara (Barcelona), Ander Herrera (Athletic), Koke (Atletico Madrid), Oriol Romeu (Chelsea), Isco (Malaga), Mata (Chelsea), Muniain (Athletic).

Strikers: Adrian (Atletico Madrid), Álvaro Vázquez (Espanyol), Tello (Barcelona), Rodrigo (Benfica).


:wacko:

If da gay plays then they are bound to let in a couple of sitters..

[Cripps_orig]

De Gea is quality tbf

Who are the 3 overage players?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Adrian and Mata are two of them. Not sure about the other.

[Marc Overmars]

Daniel Sturridge is now doubt for the Olympics because he has suspected viral meningitis. :wacko: http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7863215/Sturridge-Olympics-doubt

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

It's funny how they're comfortable in letting Alba play, who played every game at the Euros.

Can you imagine the shit storm if say, Oxlade was picked for GB?

No wonder this country is miles behind in terms of youth development.

couldnt give a f*ck about england as long as arsenal prevail. its gone too far now for me to care about international footy, and the fa are a bunch of stubborn, corrupt, money grabbing c*nts so i couldnt care less about england winning tourno's anymore. serves them right really. the way the fa and media scrutinised our club for being a bunch of 'foreigners' that 'killed' english footy for all those years, well who are the ones praying for wilshere, ox and co to guide the national team back to the glory days? yeah thats right, them.

why would i want to see bernstein and co's smug faces (if england end up winning a trophy) when all they do is try hamper our chances of winning trophies and have belittled us for years? they can all jog on.

[Flavs]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18703497

Erm what?

[Cripps_orig]

4th place is like winning a trophy

[Xhaka Can’t]

Third place is like winning a trophy and smashing 'Arry across the face with it.

[Syn]

Fifa approve use of goal-line technology. Fifa will use it at the Club World Cup in December - that's the first time it'll be used. If it passes the test, they'll start installing the technology around the grounds. It'll also be used in the 2014 World Cup.

The camera installed is also used in hawk-eye systems in cricket and tennis. It'll send a signal to the ref's watch whenever the ball crosses the line.

[Master Splinter]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18726324

Brazil's squad isn't bad either. :lol:

[Dennis Bendtner]

MO has been appointed technical director at Ajax. Bergkamp and Overmars? Greedy imo.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

According to the BBC, Maradona has been sacked as Al-Wasl manager :lol:

[Master Splinter]

Lambert :wave:.

[Kano]

@DTguardian: Terry's defence taking him through insults he has faced about mum. "The Liverpool fans made up a song that my mum loved Scouse cock"

:lol:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Prosecutor: "you used to play for arsenal, nobody makes noise at the emirates do they?"
ashley cole: "am i supposed to laugh at that?"

you can take the boy out of arsenal but you cant take the arsenal out the boy.

[GP]

Prosecutor: "you used to play for arsenal, nobody makes noise at the emirates do they?"
ashley cole: "am i supposed to laugh at that?"

you can take the boy out of arsenal but you cant take the arsenal out the boy.

Or the phone out of his bum.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

bayern have sold out all of their 17 home games for next season already.

:blink:

that's incredible.

[Syn]

tariq panja ‏@tariqpanja
Ashley Cole arrives in 3-piece suit and quite a strong cologne. Has left a scent trail in his wake. Cole says he'd prefer to sit down


:doh:

He's such a tit.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Terry's defence taking him through insults he has faced about his mum: "The Liverpool fans made up a song that my mum loved scouse cock"

:lol:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

verdict likely to be given on friday.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

ray wilkins giving evidence now.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Wilkins tells court he has seen Terry take 'unmerciful' abuse in recent years; "Never once have I seen him react"

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

bruce buck's turn.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Buck tells court 'vociferous' QPR fans gave he & his wife such abuse that at end of the game "she was so upset she wanted to go straight home".

[Master Splinter]

Buck tells court 'vociferous' QPR fans gave he & his wife such abuse that at end of the game "she was so upset she wanted to go straight home".

:haha:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Mourinho statement to court in begins: 'I am Jose Mário dos Santos Mourinho Félix and I am manager of Real Madrid'

surprised it didnt then say "and im the special one"

[Dennis Bendtner]

Looks like JayTee has roped in every black player in existence, plus some car salesman from Bradford, to say the same thing.

[Master Splinter]

Big Man's sister once used a pen in a bank that was looked at by a black man.

[Syn]

Terry's clearly going to be found not guilty.

I'm surprised Mourinho's there for a character reference. After managing to win over a lot of the public, I wouldn't have thought a man in his position would put himself on the line like that.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Mourinho statement to court says that Terry had 'an excellent relationship with team-mates regardless of ethnicity & race'.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

court adjourned.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Drogba whose charity Terry has quoted as helping during the trial didn't sign a statement in support of him

thats interesting

and now this


Jon Obi Mikel who was next Terry when he shouted words that brought him to trial also didn't sign a statement in support of Chelsea captain

[Kano]

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/pique_elmo.gif

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Terry's clearly going to be found not guilty.


true.

but whether the crime was worse than wenger introducing steroids into the premier league is questionable.

[Syn]

Mourinho statement to court says that Terry had 'an excellent relationship with team-mates regardless of ethnicity & race'.

I don't doubt that's true. I've never thought he was a racist. But I don't know how relevant all these supporting character references should be. Shouldn't we be looking at what he said and trying to make out what context it was in? That's surely the only relevant thing here. If someone's being charged with murder you don't look at the fact that he might volunteering in humanitarian work. Being a racist at heart, in itself, is not a crime.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

I don't doubt that's true. I've never thought he was a racist. But I don't know how relevant all these supporting character references should be. Shouldn't we be looking at what he said and trying to make out what context it was in? That's surely the only relevant thing here. If someone's being charged with murder you don't look at the fact that he might volunteering in humanitarian work. Being a racist at heart, in itself, is not a crime.

its to build an image of the person in order to try and rationalise what triggered the defendant to react in a certain way, and whether it was uncharacteristic of him/her to do so. it's putting the pieces to the puzzle in order to find that final piece; all the statements and questions such as 'are you england captain?', 'how many times have you been sent off in your career?' and 'whats the largest attendance you have played in front of?' aim to do that. they want to see whether this was a man buckling under intense pressure or whether it was a continuation of his everyday persona.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Yeah pretty much. Character refs wouldn't have any bearing on an alleged off the cuff racist remark. It's how Liverpool scored an OG with their proclamations in the Suarez case. I also can't see a guilty verdict anyway. The reasonable doubt will be there...Terry might have Ashley Cole's head to thank for blocking the camera shot. The John Terry Foundation will open in Sudan and life will go on.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Mourinho statement to court says that Terry had 'an excellent relationship with team-mates...

...their wives, girlfriends and daughters.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

day 3 of terry trial done.

closing statements on thursday.

verdict friday/saturday by magistrate (not jury).

maximum penalty is £2500 fine :doh:

[Syn]

its to build an image of the person in order to try and rationalise what triggered the defendant to react in a certain way, and whether it was uncharacteristic of him/her to do so. it's putting the pieces to the puzzle in order to find that final piece; all the statements and questions such as 'are you england captain?', 'how many times have you been sent off in your career?' and 'whats the largest attendance you have played in front of?' aim to do that. they want to see whether this was a man buckling under intense pressure or whether it was a continuation of his everyday persona.

But my point is that even if it is uncharacteristic of him, why does it make a difference? You might just 'snap' under intense pressure and stab someone. Don't we usually just look at the result? Perhaps we don't - I don't know how the law works.

That said, I do think that Anton Ferdinand hasn't come out of this very well either. The fact that he was the one who got personal first by bringing up Terry's affair - it doesn't excuse a racial insult but Terry probably felt he needed to go as far as he could to wind Ferdinand up.

The saddest part of all is Cashley's comments were probably the most accurate, it was just silly handbags. Both were being immature. Terry's enough of a scumbag to bring colour into it but Anton was being a dick about it too.

Will the FA slap a ban on regardless of the outcome? If they banned Suarez on more flimsy evidence, Terry's got to get a similar no. of games?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I'm more inclined to think the FA will wash their hands of it regardless of the outcome.

[Xhaka Can’t]

The problem with fines is that they aren't really penalties if you are wealthy. Fines ought really be linked to a person's income so there is a more equitable punishment regime.

As it stands, Terry being fined £2500 is like me being fined 25p.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

best part of the whole trial imo


Prosecutor: "You used to play for arsenal, nobody makes noise at the emirates do they?"

Cole: "Am i supposed to laugh at that?"

...Silence...

Cole: "If you're saying Loftus Road is louder than the Emirates I'd say no, it's not"

Prosecutor: "Ok let's not have that argument"

Cole: "Well you brought it up"


:bow: once a gooner always a gooner

[Cripps_orig]

Cole :bow:

Time for him to come back home tbh

Legend

[Syn]

Out-smarted by Ashley Cole. I think that lawyer's career is finished. There's no coming back from that.

[Marc Overmars]

Ash. :bow:

Gooner and proud.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

But my point is that even if it is uncharacteristic of him, why does it make a difference? You might just 'snap' under intense pressure and stab someone. Don't we usually just look at the result? Perhaps we don't - I don't know how the law works.

That said, I do think that Anton Ferdinand hasn't come out of this very well either. The fact that he was the one who got personal first by bringing up Terry's affair - it doesn't excuse a racial insult but Terry probably felt he needed to go as far as he could to wind Ferdinand up.

The saddest part of all is Cashley's comments were probably the most accurate, it was just silly handbags. Both were being immature. Terry's enough of a scumbag to bring colour into it but Anton was being a dick about it too.

Will the FA slap a ban on regardless of the outcome? If they banned Suarez on more flimsy evidence, Terry's got to get a similar no. of games?

there is a level of context applied to a crime and this is sometimes taken into account. after all, each case is different and involves different circumstances. someone who snaps uncharacteristically and shows great remorse can be given leniency, obviously we're not talking large amounts; just because you say sorry and cry in court for murdering someone does not mean you get 10 years knocked off your sentence, for example. but if you're a charity worker, have never been in trouble before and you're confronted by a situation where you act irrationally, then im guessing it will be contextualised, to an extent.

at least that's my understanding of the system. someone with more expertise may want to clear it up.

in terms of the terry case, i dont think making a racist remark necessarily makes you a racist. even if it does, where's the line? if i walk into a shop and say 'bloody polish, nicking our jobs', is that being racist? it's clearly less aggressive than me saying 'fuckin polish immigrants come here and mess our benefits system up'. what are the different levels of racism? is there spatial variation? its a grey area and very subjective; the seriousness often depends on the person you make the comment to, the tone, and whether they take offense to the remark.

the danger is tarring people under the same brush; it seems people are either a racist or not, when in reality, you can be in the middle. there's jokes/remarks made everyday at work or in the pub but it's good natured. it happens everywhere and it's bound to, especially when you have different cultures interacting with each other as we currently do under the newly globalised economies. the problem we have is distinguishing whether what terry said was good natured; he seems to think it was just a sarcastic comment but obviously anton sees it as much more than that. tbh i dont blame him. im all for a bit of banter but crossing the line needs punishment.

[Syn]

the danger is tarring people under the same brush; it seems people are either a racist or not, when in reality, you can be in the middle. there's jokes/remarks made everyday at work or in the pub but it's good natured. it happens everywhere and it's bound to, especially when you have different cultures interacting with each other as we currently do under the newly globalised economies. the problem we have is distinguishing whether what terry said was good natured; he seems to think it was just a sarcastic comment but obviously anton sees it as much more than that. tbh i dont blame him. im all for a bit of banter but crossing the line needs punishment.

I don't think the 'sarcasm' excuse can be taken seriously. He said it intending to wind-up Ferdinand. But I think it's equally a dick move by Ferdinand to bring up Terry's affair. I have little time for people crying foul play when they, themselves, tried to land a nasty first punch. I guess that's how the court will view it too.

All things considered, if Ferdinand got personal first, I'd let Terry go free with no punishment.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

day 4 begins.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Chief Magistrate in Terry trial day 4: 'We are talking about everyday speech from people, we are not talking about Balzac'

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Crown in Terry trial: 'It is unlikely in heat of the moment Mr Ferdinand would've had sophistication or motivation to make the allegation'

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Crown asks Chief Mag to consider Terry's demeanour when crucial exchange took place with Ferdinand- 'whether it is surprise or hostility'

so terry's being made the victim.

he's getting no punishment.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Crown on Cole: 'He originally asked lawyer to prepare a neutral statement ... you may wish to approach his evidence with degree of caution'

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Defence in Terry trial: 'Mr Ferdinand's evidence is inconsistent, unreliable ... could not satisfy court to the criminal standard required'

Defence: 'There's no direct evidence from any witness as to what Mr Terry actually said apart from Mr Terry himself, or how he said it'

Defence on 'implausibility' of Crown arguing Terry 'lost it': 'He has played 600 games spanning 14 years & has only been sent off 4 times'

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Defence: Mr Ferdinand is "fundamentally unreliable"

[Flavs]

Anyone who calls Ashley Cole as a character reference should be raped to death tbh

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Defence: "Ferdinand says he shook hands with Ashley Cole. Cole says not"

its a shame they have to resort to such lows when there is clear video footage of the incident. they're trying to make ferdinand seem like an unreliable, manipulative character when he is clearly the victim. thats ridiculous and sums up the nature of our modern system. no wonder there's outrage over soft punishments.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Ferdinand family in court snort and shake their heads as defence recalls Ashley Cole saying he is a friend of the Ferdinand family

:popcorn:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Terry's barrister says JT could have misheard what Ferdinand said, because from the crowd came a shout which sounded like "fucking mongrel"

so its the crowds fault terry reacted.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Defence: heard from Wilkins, Mourinho, Buck and Bertrand, a young black player showing Terry has "great self control" and "mental strength"

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

court adjourned until 2pm tomorrow. hopes to have verdict then.

[Syn]

https://p.twimg.com/AxjcJ7uCMAMQrlh.jpg

:haha:

[Xhaka Can’t]

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/603387_263852313723261_1023164528_n.jpg

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Spain won the U-19 European Championship. :faint: Their sixth win out of 11 in this age range.

They beat Greece 1-0. :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Sergio Aguero Manchester City
Xabi Alonso Real Madrid
Mario Balotelli Manchester City
Jakub Blaszczykowski Borussia Dortmund
Gianluigi Buffon Juventus
Iker Casillas Real Madrid
Petr Cech Chelsea
Fabio Coentrao Real Madrid
Leslie Davies Bangor City
Didier Drogba Chelsea
Cesc Fabregas Barcelona
Radamel Falcao Atletico Madrid
Joe Hart Manchester City
Zlatan Ibrahimovic AC Milan
Andres Iniesta Barcelona
Shinji Kagawa Borussia Dortmund
Vincent Kompany Manchester City
Frank Lampard Chelsea
Lionel Messi Barcelona
Luka Modric Tottenham
Mesut Ozil Real Madrid
Pepe Real Madrid
Andrea Pirlo Juventus
Sergio Ramos Real Madrid
Raul Schalke
Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid
Wayne Rooney Manchester United
David Silva Manchester City
Fernando Torres Chelsea
Yaya Toure Manchester City
Robin van Persie Arsenal
Xavi Barcelona

Nominees for the UEFA best player in Europe award

Leslie Davies :bow:

Cesc :haha:

[Master Splinter]

Surprised Kaka didn't get his usual +1.

And Big Man.

Predictably terrible otherwise though.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Lumpard
Torres

:haha:

[Xhaka Can’t]

No Chamakh?

Wenger has killed him.

[Kano]

Team GB's first run out against Mexico

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GFJi1Qciihs#!

[GP]

Lee Dixon has left the BBC, while they keep the shittest pundit team ever assembled.

BBC :doh: