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Mac76
10-02-2024, 10:46 AM
I feel a little pessimistic, maybe just because of what happened next season but while they are very up and down at the moment they have players like Ward-Prowse and Bowen who can do real damage

We need a win to keep up the pressure and to prove a point but maybe it's more likely a draw

I'd like to see Kiwior at LB and I'd also like to see ESR get another start so maybe rest Jorg and have this:

Ram, White, Bill, Gabriel, Kiwior, Rice, Odegaard, Saka, ESR, Martinelli, Havertz

Anyway 3-0 Bowen hatter

HCZ_Reborn
10-02-2024, 01:58 PM
I don’t personally get why you’d ruin Kiwior by continuing to play him at left back simply because you don’t like a player. I could understand if you played Gabriel at left back because of his pace and then played Kiwior at centre back…but there we go.

Surprised if I’m honest that you wouldn’t play Jorginho considering how well he played against Liverpool. West Ham are at home they will try and come out against us, just like they did in the league cup…we need to be able to soak up the pressure.

Marc Overmars
10-02-2024, 04:32 PM
Bound to be a tough game and they’ve had the better of us in recent meetings.

We owe them a good kicking so hopefully it’s tomorrow.

HCZ_Reborn
10-02-2024, 04:34 PM
Bound to be a tough game and they’ve had the better of us in recent meetings.

We owe them a good kicking so hopefully it’s tomorrow.

We have an “interesting” record against them. They are always more likely to beat us at home than their place.

I remember going to a game against them at Highbury in 1994 when they won 2-0. But we in fairness played a second string side that day.

Mac76
10-02-2024, 05:29 PM
I don’t personally get why you’d ruin Kiwior by continuing to play him at left back simply because you don’t like a player. I could understand if you played Gabriel at left back because of his pace and then played Kiwior at centre back…but there we go.

Surprised if I’m honest that you wouldn’t play Jorginho considering how well he played against Liverpool. West Ham are at home they will try and come out against us, just like they did in the league cup…we need to be able to soak up the pressure.

Sure, I was going to say i'd like to see the Jorg - Rice pairing again and you're probably right that's the way to go - I was trying to acommodate ESR tbh and i don't see him as a striker or a winger do it's left 8

Kiwior was very solid when he came on v Liverpool and so I think he's be fine there again, we just can't afford to surrender our LB position when as you say they have quick dangerous forward players

HCZ_Reborn
10-02-2024, 06:17 PM
Personally I’m much more concerned with our ability to break them down….especially if they realise they can get away with the smash and grab they managed against us in December. If Jesus isn’t back we need players who can provide as much attacking impetus as possible. Zinchenko is good at doing that…against Forest and Palace he was one of our best players. Kiwior is much better brought on as a sub, Arteta for all his flaws is good at bringing the Ukrainian off when he’s not playing well.

ESR is better as a sub or played instead of Odegaard. But Odegaard was decent against Liverpool.

21_GOONER_SALUTE
11-02-2024, 10:14 AM
Sure, I was going to say i'd like to see the Jorg - Rice pairing again and you're probably right that's the way to go - I was trying to acommodate ESR tbh and i don't see him as a striker or a winger do it's left 8

Kiwior was very solid when he came on v Liverpool and so I think he's be fine there again, we just can't afford to surrender our LB position when as you say they have quick dangerous forward players

Kiwior is a terrible option at LB and I am not sure what you saw in the Liverpool game that comforted you

I kind of agree with HCZ that it would be better to play Gabriel there, but the thing is I don't even rate Kiwior as a CB, or really I should say I don't rate him as a decent player at all anymore.

I saw somewhere that Tomi could be back, worth trying him out even if he can only play one half.

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 11:00 AM
Kiwior is a terrible option at LB and I am not sure what you saw in the Liverpool game that comforted you

I kind of agree with HCZ that it would be better to play Gabriel there, but the thing is I don't even rate Kiwior as a CB, or really I should say I don't rate him as a decent player at all anymore.

I saw somewhere that Tomi could be back, worth trying him out even if he can only play one half.

Japan got knocked out of the Asia cup a week ago, before the Liverpool game in fact….so there’s no reason he shouldn’t be fit today. I expect he will start on the bench though

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 01:04 PM
West Ham: Areola; Coufal, Zouma, Aguerd, Emerson; Alvarez, Soucek; Johnson, Ward-Prowse, Kudus; Bowen.
Subs: Fabianski, Ogbonna, Mavropanos, Cresswell, Scarles, Phillips, Cornet, Ings, Mubama.

Arsenal: Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior, Rice, Havertz, Odegaard, Saka, Martinelli, Trossard.
Subs: Ramsdale, Cedric, Walters, Bandeira, Elneny, Jorginho, Nelson, Nwaneri, Nketiah.

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 01:04 PM
Very odd line up, Mac has got his own way with Kiwior starting (although this seems to be about Zinchenko being injured which might explain why he was subbed at half time last week) and Trossard in for Jorginho (playing up front with Havertz in the Xhaka role)

This for me is the same misguided lineup that we played against them at home.

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 01:35 PM
The injuries we have are genuinely alarming

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:02 PM
Come on Arsenal. :bow:

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 02:05 PM
Already getting pushed back

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:11 PM
Yellow for Alvarez.

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:13 PM
Saka. :haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:18 PM
Well done Kiwior.

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:29 PM
Odegaard shot deflects behind.

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:33 PM
SALIBA!!!!!

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:35 PM
Rice assist. :lol:

Boo that you cunts.

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 02:37 PM
We need to make use of the counter attack now

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:37 PM
Saka should have scored.

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:38 PM
Wow Saka again.

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:39 PM
Pelanty!!!

Letters
11-02-2024, 02:39 PM
Rice assist. :lol:

Boo that you cunts.

:lol:

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:42 PM
SAKA!!!!! finally.

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 02:45 PM
lol another defender scores 3-0

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:45 PM
GABRIEL!!!! :haha:

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 02:48 PM
Trossard!!!

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:49 PM
TROSSARD!!!! Holy shit!!

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:53 PM
Hundreds of them leaving. :haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 02:54 PM
0-4 HT. Boos would have been louder if they hadn't all left.

Mac76
11-02-2024, 02:56 PM
Total massacre, normally though teams don't go on to get as many in the second half, be great if we did though

Mac76
11-02-2024, 03:08 PM
Agent Mavropanos on

Mac76
11-02-2024, 03:25 PM
5-0 :haha:

Mac76
11-02-2024, 03:28 PM
Rice scores :haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 03:28 PM
0-5. :haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 03:29 PM
RICE!!!!! Holy shit!!!!

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 03:30 PM
Rice scores :haha:

Looks like you might get your wish

Letters
11-02-2024, 03:30 PM
:haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 03:36 PM
Elneny could have sent us second.

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 03:38 PM
Nketiah. Come on.

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 03:41 PM
Cedric and Nwaneri on

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 03:42 PM
I tell you something, it’s marvellous to have a game that isn’t a nerve shredder. Beating Liverpool was a fantastic result but it does leave you feeling five years older near the end. It did a bit against Forest when we decided to be a bit generous, but today we’ve brought our shooting boots and decided to have some fun

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 03:46 PM
Really want the clean sheet tbf.

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 03:57 PM
Really want the clean sheet tbf.

Relax, it’s FT we got it

McNamara That Ghost...
11-02-2024, 03:57 PM
West Ham 0-6 Arsenal, FT.

:haha:

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 03:58 PM
West Ham 0-6 Arsenal, FT.

:haha:

Can we have another one of those against Spurs?

Mac76
11-02-2024, 04:00 PM
West Ham 0-6 Arsenal, FT.

:haha:

:gp:

Marc Overmars
11-02-2024, 04:01 PM
What a win. :haha:

Should humble those West Ham fans who found their voice after that tin pot they won last year and dared to question Rice for joining us. :wave:

dostoy
11-02-2024, 04:08 PM
Who are you and why have you done with the real Arsenal?

Usually they go 2-0 up and put the handbrake on. I looked when it was 0-0 for about 30 minutes then I looked it was 3-0 then 6-0 at the end which is unbelievable.

Keep going like that please.

21_GOONER_SALUTE
11-02-2024, 04:22 PM
Who are you and why have you done with the real Arsenal?

Usually they go 2-0 up and put the handbrake on. I looked when it was 0-0 for about 30 minutes then I looked it was 3-0 then 6-0 at the end which is unbelievable.

Keep going like that please.

Felt like the good old AW days again.... been a while since I felt like this watching an Arsenal game.

Great performance from all the lads including Kiwior and Havertz (who I both don't have time for)....but yeah I loved the fact that no one ever stopped and we just kept at them. Captain Marvel deserves praise today for setting the tone throughout the 90mins

Rice MOTM!!

Great performance and well done Arteta.

HCZ_Reborn
11-02-2024, 05:44 PM
So looking at Knees up Mother Brown, which is the West Ham equivalent of this place…if this place was actually visited by more than a dozen middle aged Muppets

They began the match day post for todays game last Tuesday, where as someone here put ours up as an after thought yesterday morning. I know I’m comparing apples and bowling balls, but I can’t help but feel flattered that the game was that important to them.