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Marc Overmars
08-04-2024, 10:47 AM
Waited 14 long years for this. :popcorn:

Feels weird being considered favourites against one of the elite clubs but Bayern have been pretty bad this year so I guess it’s fair game. Though you could argue they will possibly be more dangerous knowing this is all they’re playing for now.

I think we really need to go for this and try and win it well, we will be kicking ourselves if we don’t. No away fans either so this is really set up for us to get it done here.

HCZ_Reborn
08-04-2024, 11:22 AM
Let’s hope complacency doesn’t set in, this Bayern side are capable of punishing us despite their own miserable form.

Whilst I’m not as obsessed about Zinchenko as some people, it’s certainly not a good idea to start him tomorrow. That should be Kiwior or Tomiyasu. Jesus needs to be dropped in favour of Martinelli.

If Partey wasn’t so rusty I’d suggest starting him over Jorginho, Jorginho can still be pressed into making mistakes (although in fairness he faired well despite this against Brighton so maybe I’m being unfair)


Havertz? On one hand his form deserves a start on the other hand, do some of his international team mates know how to put him off his stride?

Probably over thinking that

I still don’t trust Arteta not to botch things for us, I still regard him as the biggest impediment to challenging for top honours. Again that could be my problem, he has I would say handled the last six-seven matches quite deftly. But trust has to be earned and we do have a habit of screwing things up under him.

Mac76
08-04-2024, 01:43 PM
I'd be disappointed and surprised if it wasn't this:

Raya

White Saliba Gabriel Tomi (or Kiwior if Tomi unfit)

Jorg

Odegaard Rice

Saka Havertz Martinelli

It's pretty much our best 11 atm, Trossard is a very good player but works well to bring off the bench

IBK
08-04-2024, 03:18 PM
I'd be disappointed and surprised if it wasn't this:

Raya

White Saliba Gabriel Tomi (or Kiwior if Tomi unfit)

Jorg

Odegaard Rice

Saka Havertz Martinelli

It's pretty much our best 11 atm, Trossard is a very good player but works well to bring off the bench

I reckon that will be the starting 11. Agreed that Zin needs to sit this one out. Tomi over Kiwior for me.

HCZ_Reborn
08-04-2024, 03:19 PM
I reckon that will be the starting 11. Agreed that Zin needs to sit this one out. Tomi over Kiwior for me.

Depends how fit he is I guess, he would be my preference though

But yeah on the whole I think that’s the XI most of us would plump for

Mac76
08-04-2024, 11:52 PM
Take K**t out of the equation and I'd be reasonably hopeful we could overcome them, but we know he will get a dodgy pel and generally cheat his way through the game, we need Gabriel and Saliba to be at their very best, plus pray the ref isn't a total mug (yes, I know, some hope...)

HCZ_Reborn
09-04-2024, 09:49 AM
We now appear to have every single player available to us. With Timber taking part in first team training. Doubtless he will not be part of the matchday squad tonight, but it’s possible he may have some part in the forthcoming league fixtures from the bench

Mac76
09-04-2024, 09:55 AM
We now appear to have every single player available to us. With Timber taking part in first team training. Doubtless he will not be part of the matchday squad tonight, but it’s possible he may have some part in the forthcoming league fixtures from the bench

That really is good news, to have him available in the coming weeks would be a real boost

Letters
09-04-2024, 10:07 AM
I hope we win, tbh.

Mac76
09-04-2024, 10:31 AM
I hope we win, tbh.

0-3 K**t hatter

mandela8
09-04-2024, 05:31 PM
White is always exposed against good teams. Get Tomi in for him.

Zinchenko needs fucked off. Kiwor over him.

Jorginho isn't athletic enough and struggles against counter attacks and pressing. Partey should start.

Havertz is fuckin trash. I've zero intradest in this "he's playing well" nonsense. The number of chances that come to fuck all because he's so utterly passive and bereft of any urgency is staggering. Most fitba mongs over look this if he gets a goal or an asSiST (stupid fuckin stat anyway). Jesus in the middle and Martinelli out RW.

Saka...can't say he's been shit...have to say "he's tired" :haha: offers absolutely nothing to general play. Trossard in.

My team would win 4-0.

Arteta's team...could go any way, man.

Actually fully fuckin pumped for this though.

C'mon Arsenal!!!

HCZ_Reborn
09-04-2024, 05:38 PM
He’s blocked me (I think) so can someone ask this Scottish Cunt if he can fuck off?

No need to be rude, good manners cost nothing so a please and a thank you would be good

HCZ_Reborn
09-04-2024, 05:56 PM
Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior, Jorginho, Rice, Odegaard, Martinelli, Havertz, Saka

Letters
09-04-2024, 06:05 PM
Saka...can't say he's been shit...have to say "he's tired" :haha: offers absolutely nothing to general play. Trossard in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/top-scorers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/top-scorers/assists


:coffee:

Letters
09-04-2024, 06:05 PM
COYG!

Mac76
09-04-2024, 06:14 PM
Team is as i predicted/hoped, it's Jakob at LB but that's fine :good:

radford78
09-04-2024, 06:29 PM
Anybody got a streaming site?

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 06:40 PM
Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior, Jorginho, Rice, Odegaard, Martinelli, Havertz, Saka

Subs: Ramsdale, Partey, Gabriel Jesus, Smith Rowe, Nketiah, Tomiyasu, Trossard, Vieira, Nelson, Elneny, Hein, Zinchenko.

Bayern Munich XI: Neuer, Kimmich, Dier, de Ligt, Davies, Goretzka, Laimer, Sane, Musiala, Gnabry, Kane.
Subs: Upamecano, Kim, Coman, Choupo-Moting, Zaragoza, Peretz, Guerreiro, Muller, Ulreich, Tel, Mazraoui, Pavlovic.

Letters
09-04-2024, 06:47 PM
Anybody got a streaming site?

:gp:

mandela8
09-04-2024, 06:49 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/top-scorers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/top-scorers/assists


:coffee:



You watch the games or just check teletext??

Half of those are penalties and corners, ffs. AsSistS is an utterly meaningless stat anyway.

The boy offers absolutely fuck all in general play. Better without him team would score more.

Hope he scores tonight, mind.

Letters
09-04-2024, 06:54 PM
Trolls gonna troll.

Anyway.

As I may have said, COYG!

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 06:57 PM
Champions League theme. :bow:

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 07:03 PM
Come on Arsenal. :bow:

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 07:05 PM
Leroy Sagna. :bow:

Says McCoist.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 07:08 PM
Martinelli shoots, drags wide.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 07:10 PM
Yellow for Davies and out of the second leg!

Letters
09-04-2024, 07:12 PM
My neighbour’s goal update service :bow:

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 07:13 PM
SAKA!!!!

Letters
09-04-2024, 07:13 PM
My neighbour’s goal update service :bow:

See? :d

radford78
09-04-2024, 07:15 PM
Great start

Letters
09-04-2024, 07:16 PM
He’s yelling again. It’s not 2-0 already is it?

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 07:17 PM
White smacks it straight at Neuer!

Letters
09-04-2024, 07:18 PM
White smacks it straight at Neuer!

Ah. Maybe he was yelling about that.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 07:19 PM
1-1 Gnabry.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 07:19 PM
So fucking sloppy there.

HCZ_Reborn
09-04-2024, 07:30 PM
Penalty to Bayern

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 07:31 PM
Bayern penalty

We can’t cope with their pace up front.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 07:31 PM
Pelanty to Bayern.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 07:32 PM
1-2 Kane.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 07:39 PM
Sorry but we’re just asking to be taken apart if we continue playing so high up against an attack like theirs.

HCZ_Reborn
09-04-2024, 07:39 PM
This is embarassing, we are getting torn to shreds on the counter

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 07:47 PM
And 1-2 HT. Shit.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 07:48 PM
Rubbish.

Reminiscent of Wenger CL nights.

HCZ_Reborn
09-04-2024, 07:49 PM
Utter and total embarrassment from Arteta, we’ve lost this tie in one 1/4 of it.

HCZ_Reborn
09-04-2024, 07:51 PM
There’s no coming back from this now, they will just sit on the lead and look to punish us on the counter if we overcommit. Exactly what we should have been doing to them at 1-0

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 07:53 PM
There’s no coming back from this now, they will just sit on the lead and look to punish us on the counter if we overcommit. Exactly what we should have been doing to them at 1-0

Absolute dross from Raya misjudging coming out and then Gabriel with the weak pass. Can’t do shit like that at this level, every mistake will be punished. Harsh lesson tonight.

Think we can come back in the second half but all this confirms to me is that the second leg is not going to be pleasant.

HCZ_Reborn
09-04-2024, 07:55 PM
Absolute dross from Raya misjudging coming out and then Gabriel with the weak pass. Can’t do shit like that at this level, every mistake will be punished. Harsh lesson tonight.

That’s one goal. The biggest sin was the second goal overcommitting and letting us be taken apart completely on the counter.

Letters
09-04-2024, 07:59 PM
Absolute dross from Raya misjudging coming out and then Gabriel with the weak pass. Can’t do shit like that at this level, every mistake will be punished. Harsh lesson tonight.

Think we can come back in the second half but all this confirms to me is that the second leg is not going to be pleasant.

I don’t know why Raya is coming out like that but I don’t think that’s ultimately why we conceded.
He went down so early for the penalty. All Kane had to do was pass it in

:doh:

Have to pick it up second half. We can’t go to Munich behind.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 08:01 PM
Haha Cody Rhodes theme playing at the Emirates.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 08:01 PM
Zinchenko on for Kiwior :haha:

That’s us done.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 08:02 PM
Kiwior off, Zinchenko on.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 08:02 PM
Zinchenko on for Kiwior :haha:

That’s us done.

Kiwior got done that's for sure.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 08:12 PM
Send him off!

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 08:23 PM
Sane coming off, thank fuck for that.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 08:24 PM
Going to be 2-2 or 1-3 you’d think.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 08:25 PM
Martinelli off, Trossard on.

Jorginho off, Jesus on.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 08:30 PM
Can’t see how we’re going to score. Don’t think we’ve even had a shot in this half.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 08:33 PM
TROSSARD!!!

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 08:34 PM
TROSSARD!!!

Nice work from Jesus!

radford78
09-04-2024, 08:34 PM
2-2 CYOG

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 08:36 PM
Had a bit of touch with Sane and Gnabry going off.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 08:43 PM
Partey on for Havertz.

Don’t think the German has had a great night.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 08:45 PM
Bayern have seen most of the ball since the equaliser.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 08:48 PM
Coman hits the post. :sick:

We haven’t looked good since the equaliser.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 08:53 PM
2-2 FT.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 08:54 PM
I think Saka went looking for that. Perfect opportunity to comb one in but tried to win a penalty instead.

Mac76
09-04-2024, 08:55 PM
I think Saka went looking for that. Perfect opportunity to comb one in but tried to win a penalty instead.

Not a pel then? I was at the other end of the ground

dazthegooner
09-04-2024, 08:56 PM
Even Rio said it was a penalty.

HCZ_Reborn
09-04-2024, 08:58 PM
Very disappointed with that, had the chance to prove our worth and we flunked it big time

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 08:58 PM
If that was an away leg I’d say job well done but I think we missed an opportunity tonight and quite frankly we were found wanting at times too. Bayern had us on the counter and then after the equaliser dominated the ball a lot better than we did during the game.

I don’t see how the second leg ends with us winning but you live in hope I guess.

Marc Overmars
09-04-2024, 09:00 PM
Not a pel then? I was at the other end of the ground

Need to see some more replays but my first impression is that it was a really good opportunity to score that he threw away in trying to look for a pen.

Mac76
09-04-2024, 09:03 PM
Need to see some more replays but my first impression is that it was a really good opportunity to score that he threw away in trying to look for a pen.

Yes it felt like he could have hit it sooner

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 09:12 PM
Trossard and Jesus deserve to start in the Allianz tbf.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-04-2024, 09:53 PM
Gabriel just picking the ball up in live play.

Fucking hell.

Should've been a clear pel for Bayern.

Letters
10-04-2024, 05:39 AM
Not a pel then? I was at the other end of the ground

There was definite contact but I guess he looked for a bit.

Not a great result but not a disaster. We are still in this tie

HCZ_Reborn
10-04-2024, 08:10 AM
I hope I’m wrong but I think it is a disaster

A tactical shit show at the very least. Genuinely not looking forward to the next few games as I fear this is the ground tremor prior to an earthquake. Villa could punish us just as easily as Bayern did and anything but a win in that game and that’s arguably season over when you consider momentum

Marc Overmars
10-04-2024, 10:54 AM
A disaster in terms of our chances of reaching the semi final but I’m not sure it will have a knock on effect in the league. I think we’ve got everyone’s number and I think we’re still likely to win games not being at our best, one would hope.

European football is just a different kettle of fish because no amount of scouting is going to truly have you prepped for teams you’ve rarely or never faced. It’s more a case of trying to learn on the job while domestically you’re so familiar with every opponent.

Letters
10-04-2024, 11:18 AM
Gabriel just picking the ball up in live play.

Fucking hell.

Should've been a clear pel for Bayern.

I've just seen that :lol: :doh:
I guess the argument is Raya was passing it to him so he could take the goal kick.
A pretty weak defence, but an outfield player can take it so I guess we could make that argument given that Gabriel was in the sort of position a GK is taken from and Raya was more central.

EDIT: And actually, a GK needs to leave the penalty area, so I'm warming to the idea that this argument makes sense.

Letters
10-04-2024, 11:40 AM
Actually, I've just seen another video on it. The ref blew his whistle and apparently the ref just regarded it as a schoolboy error and just let us get on with it.
We got away with that.

HCZ_Reborn
10-04-2024, 12:15 PM
Actually, I've just seen another video on it. The ref blew his whistle and apparently the ref just regarded it as a schoolboy error and just let us get on with it.
We got away with that.

We got away with it because the referee was a moron.


Raya and Gabriel need people to come in and make sure they are capable of washing and dressing themselves. I know it’s not cricket to use the term mentally retarded anymore, so better to say developmentally disabled

Letters
10-04-2024, 12:21 PM
According to Tuchel the referee was just being kind and regarded it as too stupid to give a penalty for. :lol: