The Arsenal v Aston Villa, Sunday 14 April, 4.30pm

[Mac76]

So, the line-up for this will (or should) obviously be partly determined by our intended line-up for Bayern.

Villa played last night but it was a home game which they won, so we can't place too much on their being more tired than us or demoralised

Nevertheless we need to rotate a bit, so I'm going with:

Raya

White Saliba Kiwior Zin

Partey

Odegaard ESR

Nelson Havertz Martinelli


To put that in context, my second-leg Bayern line-up would probably be:


Raya

White Saliba Gabriel Tomi

Rice

Odegaard Havertz

Saka Trossard Jesus


if Tomi's not fit, then god knows what we do, given how bad Zin is and that Kiwior couldn't cope with it - how did we get into such a mess at LB???


I know he won't change the Villa squad as much as that, but we need to be sensible if we want to beat Bayern and i do believe we should try our hardest to have our best players rested - they can always come on in the Villa game if needed

anyway, 0-3 Watkins hatter

[Letters]

I hope we win tbh.

[Marc Overmars]

Partey looks cooked, I wouldn’t rely on getting much out of him for the remainder of the season.

Don’t think we need to be rotating much for this, maybe one or two changes at best but this is going to be a difficult game that we can’t take any risks with.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Do not want to see rested players tbf.

Villa played on Thursday so really no excuses for lack of performing.

[Mac76]

As I said I'm sure Arteta won't change that much but I would like to see Saka rested at least and ESR has showed he can do a job for us

I forgot Vieira but we could use him too, at least as a sub

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It should be all about our first XI now. We have 7 league games to go.

Seven.

[Mac76]

But those seven are plus at least one CL game and all close together, we have a game every three days, that says we need to manage players' minutes where we can

[HCZ_Reborn]

But those seven are plus at least one CL game and all close together, we have a game every three days, that says we need to manage players' minutes where we can

The smartest approach would be to try and win the game 1st half and then manage it second half. I don’t think we can fuck around by starting Nelson etc on Sunday…plus we’ve had a five day gap between games, so as long as a lot of our players aren’t playing the full 90 minutes should be fine for Munich on Wednesday

City will rest players today I imagine, but that’s because a) they’ve got greater squad depth and b) they are playing Luton

[McNamara That Ghost...]

But those seven are plus at least one CL game and all close together, we have a game every three days, that says we need to manage players' minutes where we can

And this is what you live for as a footballer.

I don't have an issue with bringing players off if the job is already done but resting from the start just gives impetus to the opposition you aren't taking then seriously.

[Marc Overmars]

But those seven are plus at least one CL game and all close together, we have a game every three days, that says we need to manage players' minutes where we can

You rest players for bigger challenges that lie ahead.

We are in the thick of those challenges now, there’s nothing else coming further down the line. Every game we play has enough jeopardy to end our season so tinkering with the team too much makes no sense at this stage.

Successful teams play lots of games, it’s something to embrace. It wasn’t long ago that the final few months of a season consisted of us playing dead rubbers every weekend because we had nothing to play for.

[Mac76]

The smartest approach would be to try and win the game 1st half and then manage it second half. I don’t think we can fuck around by starting Nelson etc on Sunday…plus we’ve had a five day gap between games, so as long as a lot of our players aren’t playing the full 90 minutes should be fine for Munich on Wednesday

City will rest players today I imagine, but that’s because a) they’ve got greater squad depth and b) they are playing Luton

Well ok, I admit I probably wouldn't start Nelson when it came to it but I think someone like ESR can do a job against Villa, that's I'm really saying, Arteta stuck rigidly to the same 11 last season and a) we became too predictable and b) I think some players did get a bit fatigued which cost us IMO

I'm pretty sure at least some of you were making exactly those same points this time last season and we didn't even have European football to contend with that time

[HCZ_Reborn]

Well ok, I admit I probably wouldn't start Nelson when it came to it but I think someone like ESR can do a job against Villa, that's I'm really saying, Arteta stuck rigidly to the same 11 last season and a) we became too predictable and b) I think some players did get a bit fatigued which cost us IMO

I'm pretty sure at least some of you were making exactly those same points this time last season and we didn't even have European football to contend with that time

I freely admit I have called on Arteta to rotate his squad, and actually to a degree when you consider we haven’t had a settled First XI in the last four games he kind of has

But I’m also mindful of the fact that despite my belief to the contrary that City did not rest players against Luton (why the fuck do they get to play on Saturday and us on Sunday by the way) and I’m a bit wary of a team that is battling for top four. Villa have one of the best records at the Emirates winning four of fifteen matches they’ve played here. This is not some relegation battling team or a team with nothing else to play for.
It’s a team that like us is balancing league and European commitments.
Good Ebening can spring a surprise for definite, just like Tuchel did

[McNamara That Ghost...]

As to why Man City play on Saturday and us on Sunday, it might have fallen this anyway but

Villa played on Thursday.

[WMUG]

So why can't we play at 2 rather than 4:30? Give us a little more time to recover.

[Letters]

This may be misguided and could age like milk but I’m actually feeling quite confident about this game. It’s a definite banana skin but I’m starting to trust this lot to navigate those.

COYG!

[Letters]

So why can't we play at 2 rather than 4:30? Give us a little more time to recover.

You’re not suggesting the TV schedules should be disrupted, surely? :unsure:

[Mac76]

This may be misguided and could age like milk but I’m actually feeling quite confident about this game. It’s a definite banana skin but I’m starting to trust this lot to navigate those.

COYG!

I take the same view, we should be confident of beating anyone outside Citeh and Liverpool tbh and we've four points off both of those this season

The only games I'm really concerned about are Moan U amd Spuds away, because of those fixtures' unpredictability, we absolutely have to play our best game with our best players

[HCZ_Reborn]

I don’t feel confident about this game at all

I’m expecting a fuck up because this is the time for it

Then again felt same way against Brighton. The only game I was confident about was Bayern :haha: me

[Marc Overmars]

We’re overdue a balls up so I’m a little bit nervous. Too much PTSD associated with this part of the season.

Feel it could be like the Brentford game which was fairly even and we had to dig in to get the winner.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I think we'll win well tbf

[HCZ_Reborn]

Kiwior and Jorginho out

Zinchenko and Jesus in


Whoops didn’t see Trossard in for Martinelli

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Arsenal: Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko, Rice, Odegaard, Trossard, Saka, Jesus, Havertz.
Subs: Ramsdale, Partey, Smith Rowe, Martinelli, Nketiah, Kiwior, Tomiyasu, Jorginho, Vieira.

Aston Villa: Martinez, Konsa, Carlos, Torres, Digne, Zaniolo, Tielemans, Diaby, Rogers, McGinn, Watkins
Subs: Olsen, Cash, Moreno, Chambers, Lenglet, Duran, Kesler-Hayden, Bailey, Iroegbunam

[Mac76]

I like them both but it's diasappointing to sre Trossard and Jesus start, I'd have hoped he'd keep them back to start against Bayern, he's presumably planning to start Martinelli against Bayern which is a mistake IMO based on last week

[Marc Overmars]

Even more nevrous now after this Liverpool result. :sick:

[Letters]

Even more nevrous now after this Liverpool result. :sick:

Yeah. As I said above I was feeling confident but now I’m super nervous we’ll blow this opportunity :sick:

[HCZ_Reborn]

I like them both but it's diasappointing to sre Trossard and Jesus start, I'd have hoped he'd keep them back to start against Bayern, he's presumably planning to start Martinelli against Bayern which is a mistake IMO based on last week

Depends how we play, the problem is Martinelli gets isolated because our attacks all come down the right hand side and teams tend to like to double up on Saka

However I’m not entirely in disagreement with you, I think Jesus hasn’t started well in games, and Trossard has definitely been much better as an impact sub

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I think we've gone with the intention to overwhelm them early. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Arsenal. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Too much from Saka there.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Martinez saves from Havertz!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jesus header wide.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saka, too tight an angle to shoot from there.

[WMUG]

We've started well.

Just as I say that Villa nearly score on the counter :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

We’re playing some nice stuff.

[Marc Overmars]

Some better decision making needed in the final third but really good so far.

[Niall_Quinn]

That ref is an absolute fucking muppet. Just saw Gabriel having the shirt pulled off his back - IN THE BOX - but a pull outside the box? Yellow. Fucking muppet. They aren't applying the rules, they are applying selective rules that keep their arse out of the fire.

[Marc Overmars]

Need Martinelli’s pace down the left really.

Trossard is silky but not as quick or direct.

[Marc Overmars]

Odegaard has been sublime.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watkins hit the post!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Martinez saves from Trossard!

[Marc Overmars]

Watkins hits the post from us fucking up.

A reminder how quickly this can change.

[Niall_Quinn]

Miracle luck for Villa there. Had nothing to do with the keeper apart from where he happened to be.

[Marc Overmars]

Piss off Martinez.

[Niall_Quinn]

Prior to that, Watkins shows just how bad the modern day striker is. What a miss.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saka just wide.

[Marc Overmars]

Good effort Saka, just wide

[dostoy]

I hope Martinez is not man of the match at the end.

[Niall_Quinn]

What can you say about Gabriel Jesus? Worst player ever? Genius? It's totally random.

[Niall_Quinn]

Flag up - but where was Jesus? He's got to be in there. We still need a striker.

[Niall_Quinn]

What a girl. Down he goes. Nasty little cheat.

[Marc Overmars]

Villa free kick edge of the box :sick:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Villa free kick edge of the box :sick:

Comes to nothing

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-0 HT.

[Marc Overmars]

Played very well bar that dozy pass from Gabriel.

If we keep that level up I’m sure we’ll score but this is very delicately poised.

[Niall_Quinn]

All you have to do is throw yourself on the ground to get this twat ref to get his whistle out. In the Liverpool match the ref was great, let the kick the shit out of each other. That's what you get for letting queers be refs. HT 0-0, should be Several-0. Might pay for that.

[KSE Comedy Club]

We've played very well - except in front of goal. We seem to have gone back to trying to pass the ball into the net.

Two players to consider selling in the summer to replace with better:

Zinchenko - all he does is give the ball away, literally every time.
Jesus - total and utter pussy.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Arsenal. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Zinchenko played really well. He's not a great defender, so I get that, but his other contributions are important. He has composure on the ball and that's crucial. The other bloke who plays there doesn't, and that hurts us in non-defensive situations. Zinchenko opens up our play, which brings players like Rice and Odegard into the action.

[Niall_Quinn]

So that's 100% a penalty. If compared to other penalties this season. The defender got nowhere near the ball and he did make contact. Isn't that the rule? Or is the rule, make it up as you go?

[Niall_Quinn]

Never a handball, ball to hand. Absolutely shit ref.

[Marc Overmars]

Villa having a lot more of the ball now.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ref's a total wanker.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yet another black player is coming on for Villa. Should we take the knee again to encourage the PL to avoid racism?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Diaby off, Bailey on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Is taking a black player off racist?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tielemans hit bar and post!

[Marc Overmars]

How the fuck has that stayed out

[Marc Overmars]

Zinchenko is so fucking flimsy with everything he does.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wow, Villa very unlucky there. Deserved a goal. Because of the fuck-up defending and sloppy play. You CANNOT turn up to these games having coasted other games and suddenly step it up. You have to be 100% the whole time. Nothing else will do against Pep and his chequebook.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Martinez saves from Jesus.

[Marc Overmars]

Villa are all over us.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Zinchenko played really well. He's not a great defender, so I get that, but his other contributions are important. He has composure on the ball and that's crucial. The other bloke who plays there doesn't, and that hurts us in non-defensive situations. Zinchenko opens up our play, which brings players like Rice and Odegard into the action.

Nah, Kiwior is much better than Zinchenko.
Watch him give the ball away almost 80% of the time he has possession of it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Saliba is the difference. Very good player. Like old school.

[Niall_Quinn]

Nah, Kiwior is much better than Zinchenko.
Watch him give the ball away almost 80% of the time he has possession of it.

Surely that's Kiwior? Or, if he doesn't give the ball away he plays some shitty square or backwards pass. He's a bit of a non-event.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

White off, Tomiyasu on. Trossard off, Martinelli on.

[Marc Overmars]

We’ve barely strung any passages of play together in this half.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ref is an utter cunt. He's like Villa's 12th man. Get beaten by the winger, fall over, let the queer blow the whistle.

[Marc Overmars]

This is starting to feel a bit grim.

[Niall_Quinn]

So poor by Rice. Why?

Jorginho has been epic for months. Why is he not in there controlling the middle? What's going on here?

[Niall_Quinn]

Is this a GPS vest thing? Sooner we get that shit out of football and go back to human beings the better.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jesus off, Jorginho on.

Odegaard off, Smith Rowe on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Unless Smith-Rowe is going to develop 12 months in one match, what's the advertage of bringing Odegaard off? That's very strange.

[HCZ_Reborn]

0-1 Bailey

Title over

[Marc Overmars]

City’s title. Again.

[Niall_Quinn]

There we are.

Same old Arsenal.

[Niall_Quinn]

We lost the title in the 2-0 win against Luton.

[HCZ_Reborn]

We lost the title in the 2-0 win against Luton.

But we have to factor in that you don’t know what you’re talking about

[Marc Overmars]

Can’t say it hasn’t been deserved.

Villa have dominated this half.

[HCZ_Reborn]

2-0 Watkins

Arteta out

[Marc Overmars]

Atrocious.

[Niall_Quinn]

Jesus, those chequebook bastard don't even have to try. They have a SHIT record against the top 5 and yet. Nobody else will step up and punish them.

And 2-0. Disgusting. Would have been won in the first half but we have Jesus instead of a striker.

[Marc Overmars]

The game needed to be won in the first half. We’ve looked completely dead on our feet in this half.

[Niall_Quinn]

In the last decade, EVERY TIME Arsenal have had the upper hand they've folded. And we lost to that bloke we had here as a a manger and could do nothing. Yet he can drag a bunch of shit-kickers like this average Villa side. And they really are shite. So the problem is with Arsenal, and it goes back to Wenger. That Top 4 Trophy has cursed us and continues to curse us. We just don't have the winner mentality that the gypos own.

[HCZ_Reborn]

In the last decade, EVERY TIME Arsenal have had the upper hand they've folded. And we lost to that bloke we had here as a a manger and could do nothing. Yet he can drag a bunch of shit-kickers like this average Villa side. And they really are shite. So the problem is with Arsenal, and it goes back to Wenger. That Top 4 Trophy has cursed us and continues to curse us. We just don't have the winner mentality that the gypos own.

We don’t have the squad the gypos have. If they had a winner mentality it wouldn’t have taken Ming the Merciless 7 years to win the champions league

Still though this is totally unacceptable. Arteta has to go

[Niall_Quinn]

We don’t have the squad the gypos have. If they had a winner mentality it wouldn’t have taken Ming the Merciless 7 years to win the champions league

Still though this is totally unacceptable. Arteta has to go

Arteta has to go? That's hilarious. JUST WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO HIRE?

The cancer is not in Arteta, it's in the the culture that Wenger made.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Arteta has to go? That's hilarious. JUST WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO HIRE?

The cancer is not in Arteta, it's in the the culture that Wenger made.

Wenger’s been gone for six years you tit

I know Alcohol has fucked with your perception of time but it’s time to move on

Who we hire isn’t important, we don’t need this idiotic galaxy brained moron who has spent a ridiculous amount of the club’s money… money Wenger never had to spend. He’s utterly fucked this club.

[Marc Overmars]

FT 0-2

That was absolutely trash. Could sense it was coming all second half with how easily Villa were dominating.

Season just a few days away from lying in the gutter. :rose:

[Niall_Quinn]

And our squad is almost 100% fit, btw. We paid City prices for Rice. We paid City prices for Havertz. No excuses there. Its a culture thing, not a money thing. Wenger bred failure into the club when he made easy excuses for failure. And Arsenal fans bred failure when they celebrated a top 4 like it was something that actually mattered - even though we were going out in the last 16 at best. It's a shared failure.

I knew after the Luton match. I saw how the players were. And I compared it to how Vieira and the gang were. Absolutely no fucking comparison. Night and day.

Even so, we are worthy also-rans. Almost worth watching. Though I won't bother next season because it will be exactly the same.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That did not go well.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger’s been gone for six years you tit

I know Alcohol has fucked with your perception of time but it’s time to move on

Who we hire isn’t important, we don’t need this idiotic galaxy brained moron who has spent a ridiculous amount of the club’s money… money Wenger never had to spend. He’s utterly fucked this club.

Hmm, don't have a clue what that means.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Again I don't see the point in not playing your best eleven.

Utterly pointless.

[Letters]

That did not go well.

I agree.

The minute we have a chance to really assert ourselves at the top of the table we completely shit ourselves. They have shown some more maturity this year and the run to get us in this position has been impressive, including some good results in some big games. But ultimately when it comes down to it we still don’t have what it takes to finish the job.

[HCZ_Reborn]

And our squad is almost 100% fit, btw. We paid City prices for Rice. We paid City prices for Havertz. No excuses there. Its a culture thing, not a money thing. Wenger bred failure into the club when he made easy excuses for failure. And Arsenal fans bred failure when they celebrated a top 4 like it was something that actually mattered - even though we were going out in the last 16 at best. It's a shared failure.

I knew after the Luton match. I saw how the players were. And I compared it to how Vieira and the gang were. Absolutely no fucking comparison. Night and day.

Even so, we are worthy also-rans. Almost worth watching. Though I won't bother next season because it will be exactly the same.

You saw fuck all. You live in a memory hole

You spent half the season slagging off Odegaard only to realise what a decent player he is

Wenger unlike this Lego haired autistic moron actually won things. Trying to emulate Pep Guardiola when you haven’t got Arab oil money is an act of extreme hubris.

Arteta signed Rice, Arteta signed Havertz…these are his players. This is his fuck up

[HCZ_Reborn]

He got the line up wrong

Jesus is a fucking joke. City saw us coming

And I hate to give that squealing tit Mac a shout out, but why the fuck was that spastic Zinchenko left on the pitch ?

[Letters]

City to win the league.
Arsenal finish second.
City to get stripped of their titles.
Arsenal crowned champions retrospectively.

Playing the long game :bow:

[dostoy]

Its only football.

Its only a game.

Forget about it and move on.

[Letters]

Its only football.

Its only a game.

Forget about it and move on.

Are there any women here?

#lifeofbrian

[Niall_Quinn]

You saw fuck all. You live in a memory hole

You spent half the season slagging off Odegaard only to realise what a decent player he is

Wenger unlike this Lego haired autistic moron actually won things. Trying to emulate Pep Guardiola when you haven’t got Arab oil money is an act of extreme hubris.

Arteta signed Rice, Arteta signed Havertz…these are his players. This is his fuck up

Ha, ha, ha. Reel it back in. Don't argue with me when you are emotional. It won't go well. Speak to you tomorrow. Or next year. I don't know. Is it really, in any way, important. Look at you.

[Niall_Quinn]

Its only football.

Its only a game.

Forget about it and move on.

Good. Yes. YOUR life is FAR more important. The football is actually the distraction for the EXCELLENCE you should be applying to your own life.

[Niall_Quinn]

Are there any women here?

#lifeofbrian

Hope not. That would leave the kitchen unmanned.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Ha, ha, ha. Reel it back in. Don't argue with me when you are emotional. It won't go well. Speak to you tomorrow. Or next year. I don't know. Is it really, in any way, important. Look at you.

Well put it this way it’s far more important than the shit you insist is important

[HCZ_Reborn]

Are there any women here?

#lifeofbrian

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pRnyfVgQbXk/mqdefault.jpg


As I keep telling you, there’s more chance of coming across women in a Benedictine Monastery

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

He got the line up wrong

Jesus is a fucking joke. City saw us coming

And I hate to give that squealing tit Mac a shout out, but why the fuck was that spastic Zinchenko left on the pitch ?

Its the first sentence really. The lineup was wrong and everything collapsed from there.

Anyway, I hope this is the last time we see Zinchencko play as a LB, because he is totally finished as a defensive player.

I hope this also puts an end to the argument that we don't need a striker, because adding both Jesus and Havertz together still wouldn't give you an Ollie Watkins ( and I'm not even saying Watkins is the answer).

Rice was also poor in this game, but maybe if he'd partnered him with Partey or Jorg, it could have been so different.

Can't believe Emery did the double over us and we didn't score a goal in any of the games. Says a lot about Arteta and his team.

Almost nothing to look forward to anymore and that includes Munich.

It's all so sad.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well put it this way it’s far more important than the shit you insist is important

Oh, not really. I talk about shit like the cashless society. Do you even comprehend? And you think this is Internet games. I FUCKING WIH with my whole heart wish you had an inkling. Fucking children. How have they been put in charge?

[HCZ_Reborn]

Oh, not really. I talk about shit like the cashless society. Do you even comprehend? And you think this is Internet games. I FUCKING WIH with my whole heart wish you had an inkling. Fucking children. How have they been put in charge?

If that matters so much, go and join your mate Piers Corbyn on the street and sell pencils from a cup

[dostoy]

Well put it this way it’s far more important than the shit you insist is important

I know you live on here and literally answer everyone when they post but just leave the idiot out.

You know who I mean.

He is an attention seeker, leave him alone and he will go away.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I know you live on here and literally answer everyone when they post but just leave the idiot out.

You know who I mean.

He is an attention seeker, leave him alone and he will go away.

I feel seen :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

If that matters so much, go and join your mate Piers Corbyn on the street and sell pencils from a cup

It's so nice to be so comfortable you can look at demise from a cash option point of view. There are people who can't. And there we are, the difference between us. I probably can survive financially, just, for now, but some people definitely can't. Fuck 'em, eh. Provided your world spins around. You "reasonable" people always frighten me with your brutal extremism.

[HCZ_Reborn]

It's so nice to be so comfortable you can look at demise from a cash option point of view. There are people who can't. And there we are, the difference between us. I probably can survive financially, just, for now, but some people definitely can't. Fuck 'em, eh. Provided your world spins around. You "reasonable" people always frighten me with your brutal extremism.

Well I was always against us moving away from the barter system

Get a hold of yourself it’s called obsolescence. You sound like my Grandfather who couldn’t cope with us adopting the decimal system in 1971 and doing away with pound notes

But please do us both the respect, of not pretending you give a fuck for your strawman octogenarian who still has the option of using cash but is just as adept at using chip and pin or contactless transfer as you or me.

It’s about your personal distrust. Fine that’s at least consistent with your world view, you don’t need to play the violin for people you’ve made up

[Niall_Quinn]

Well I was always against us moving away from the barter system

Get a hold of yourself it’s called obsolescence. You sound like my Grandfather who couldn’t cope with us adopting the decimal system in 1971 and doing away with pound notes

But please do us both the respect, of not pretending you give a fuck for your strawman octogenarian who still has the option of using cash but is just as adept at using chip and pin or contactless transfer as you or me.

It’s about your personal distrust. Fine that’s at least consistent with your world view, you don’t need to play the violin for people you’ve made up

I grew up with I.T.. It's a very detailed and technical discipline but it always had that innate gift to see trough the bullshit. Bullshit that was never needed was soon displaced (until the Millennial queers and snatch lickers came along, at least - no accounting for those cunts and their insanity wrecking logic so let's pretend they died in a fire. Painfully). If you are trying to tell me the modern version of reality compares with the actual reality then you know what that means? YOU are insane. If human intentions changed but the logical procedures of the systems that control society held with what had gone before and was workable, then I'd call that political. But when reality itself gets consumed by absolute bullshit that makes no sense, I wonder what YOUR version of reality looks like and why you would have so much confidence in disputing what I watch with my own eyes. It's almost like you are the most arrogant and gullible prick alive. And it's like I'm blind even though my eyes work just fine. Why do you need your world to be this contradictory for it to work? Could there be something seriously fucking wrong with your world? Funny thing is - you know the answer to that. Now you just need to feel around and find your balls.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I grew up with I.T.. It's a very detailed and technical discipline but it always had that innate gift to see trough the bullshit. Bullshit that was never needed was soon displaced (until the Millennial queers and snatch lickers came along, at least - no accounting for those cunts and their insanity wrecking logic so let's pretend they died in a fire. Painfully). If you are trying to tell me the modern version of reality compares with the actual reality then you know what that means? YOU are insane. If human intentions changed but the logical procedures of the systems that control society held with what had gone before and was workable, then I'd call that political. But when reality itself gets consumed by absolute bullshit that makes no sense, I wonder what YOUR version of reality looks like and why you would have so much confidence in disputing what I watch with my own eyes. It's almost like you are the most arrogant and gullible prick alive. And it's like I'm blind even though my eyes work just fine. Why do you need your world to be this contradictory for it to work? Could there be something seriously fucking wrong with your world? Funny thing is - you know the answer to that. Now you just need to feel around and find your balls.

TL:DR

I’m sorry that happened to you

[dostoy]

I think these two are actually the same person with a multiple personality disorder.


:lol::lol::lol:

[Letters]

I think these two are actually the same person with a multiple personality disorder.


:lol::lol::lol:

The first rule of Goonersweb is you don't talk about Goonersweb...

[Niall_Quinn]

TL:DR

I’m sorry that happened to you

Okay, I accept your refusal to engage. What I don't accept is your pitiful attempt to make it look like you did.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think these two are actually the same person with a multiple personality disorder.


:lol::lol::lol:

No, it's Letters. He pays for bots. There's you, and there's him. That's all.

[Mac76]

Yet another black player is coming on for Villa. Should we take the knee again to encourage the PL to avoid racism?

Yes, as long as people like you, who are too cowardly to admit you're actually racist, say stuff like that

Who cares what the skin colour of a player is?

Only someone who feels resentful at only having a two-inch dick

[Mac76]

But we have to factor in that you don’t know what you’re talking about

:haha: :gp:

[Mac76]

Arteta has to go? That's hilarious. JUST WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO HIRE?

The cancer is not in Arteta, it's in the the culture that Wenger made.

Jeez how many bottles of vodka did you down before the game today, or has someone hacked your account and taken it just a smidgen too far?

[Mac76]

Again I don't see the point in not playing your best eleven.

Utterly pointless.

It was on paper a perfectly good syarting eleven aside from having Jesus, who can't score for toffee, at 9 and the fact we don't have a left back

Arteta's massive folly is the LB position, where he's left us totally exposed and teams have now identified it

[Mac76]

He got the line up wrong

Jesus is a fucking joke. City saw us coming

And I hate to give that squealing tit Mac a shout out, but why the fuck was that spastic Zinchenko left on the pitch ?

Leaving aside your very over-emotional description of me, Pep saw us coming with both Zin and Jesus

[Mac76]

Hope not. That would leave the kitchen unmanned.

Don't you mean 'unwomaned'?

If you're trying to display your misogynistic tendencies at least do it properly

[KSE Comedy Club]

Surely that's Kiwior? Or, if he doesn't give the ball away he plays some shitty square or backwards pass. He's a bit of a non-event.

Our best defensive run recently was with Kiwior in the team, Zinchenko has been back for the last three games and we've looked dodgy again.

[Mac76]

Our best defensive run recently was with Kiwior in the team, Zinchenko has been back for the last three games and we've looked dodgy again.

generally yes but he wasn't the right pick against Bayern, that needed to be Tomi, but we can only assume Tomi wasn't fit enough. The bottom line is we're desperataly short in that area because Arteta thought Zin could do a job there when he patently couldn't

[HCZ_Reborn]

Zinchenko was the Zinchenko of last season yesterday, the absolute disgraceful way he showed zero positional discipline and created problems for us is not just a result of ineptitude, it’s a result of incredible arrogance. Fuck him basically.

Rice was poor yesterday, because in the absence of a defensive midfielder beside him he was simply being asked to do too much.

Jesus? JFC more like. There’s selflessness and then there’s a complete failure to take responsibility. The guy couldn’t finish a six inch subway roll

I can’t fault Saka, he missed loads of chances but he at least was fucking trying. Trossard similarly

[Mac76]

Zin has never wavered from being that bad, it's just that some people refused to see it

Agreed on Rice and Jesus, also Saka and Trossard

[HCZ_Reborn]

No I’m sorry that’s just not the case. I was one of his biggest critics last season, there’s absolutely no reason for me to refuse to see anything.

I don’t play favourites, I say what I see

Zinchenko played ok when he came on against Bayern, there was much more control on the ball than Kiwior managed.

But his play against Villa was reckless and arrogant. However it needs to be said, that’s not the reason we lost yesterday.

We lost because we fucked things up in midfield without a Jorginho or a Partey. We fucked things up, up front where we are persisting with a player who doesn’t score goals.

Putting Havertz back in midfield felt like a fuck you to journalists who have been asking Arteta if they think he plays better as a forward. Of course he fucking does, he isn’t a midfielder. I said this from the off

[dazthegooner]

Putting Havertz back in midfield felt like a fuck you to journalists who have been asking Arteta if they think he plays better as a forward. Of course he fucking does, he isn’t a midfielder. I said this from the off
:gp:

[Mac76]

Putting Havertz back in midfield felt like a fuck you to journalists who have been asking Arteta if they think he plays better as a forward. Of course he fucking does, he isn’t a midfielder. I said this from the off

I think it was more that he wanted to have Jesus up front, but unfortunately it was with the inevitable results.

I think we get something out of that game if Havertz was at 9, Trossard was putting some really good balls in from the left in the first half but Jesus consistently fluffed it, either missing the chance or not being in the right place when it counted

[KSE Comedy Club]

generally yes but he wasn't the right pick against Bayern, that needed to be Tomi, but we can only assume Tomi wasn't fit enough. The bottom line is we're desperataly short in that area because Arteta thought Zin could do a job there when he patently couldn't

Oh agreed, my point was that Zin is a steaming pile of dogshit at LB :)

[Mac76]

Oh agreed, my point was that Zin is a steaming pile of dogshit at LB :)

I'd further and say he's like that anywhere on the pitch

[Niall_Quinn]

Yes, as long as people like you, who are too cowardly to admit you're actually racist, say stuff like that

Who cares what the skin colour of a player is?

Only someone who feels resentful at only having a two-inch dick

You do, you moron. Hence the big display of it at the start of a game. I won't be called a racist by a racist. Zip it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Jeez how many bottles of vodka did you down before the game today, or has someone hacked your account and taken it just a smidgen too far?

4th Place Trophy. Losers like yourself. You think that cancer just goes away?

[Mac76]

4th Place Trophy. Losers like yourself. You think that cancer just goes away?

Blimey, you're slower to react than Eddie