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Mac76
26-04-2024, 05:39 PM
We're better than them - go beat them lads

Will be interesting to see the staring lineup for this - the same as the Chelsea game or does he start Martinelli to take advantage of their high line - trouble is Martinelli can't score for toffee atm so does he instead stick with Trossard?

I do think Partey could have a field day with that high line with his passing and overall maybe we keep it the same

definitely Tomi at LB ofc

Marc Overmars
26-04-2024, 06:58 PM
We’re better than them, so we should win but away at Spurs has rarely been an easy ride for us. The thought of them ending our hopes is a bit shit but let’s hope for the best.

Same team that played the other night is the best bet I would have thought.

Letters
27-04-2024, 02:07 PM
I hope we win, tbh.

I have a feeling a draw is more likely. Quite a common result at their place in season when we're the better side.

dazthegooner
27-04-2024, 03:40 PM
We should win as long as we play our usual game and don't let the 12th man (and I'm not taling about the crowd) get the better of us.

Letters
27-04-2024, 08:42 PM
If we don’t lose by the way then tomorrow will be St Totteringham’s Day :partytime:

Niall_Quinn
28-04-2024, 12:41 AM
3-1 Arsenal. And their "goal" will be dodgy as fuck.

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 10:30 AM
Quite nervous for this. Feels a bit like the game at the back end of 21/22. :sick:

HCZ_Reborn
28-04-2024, 12:01 PM
No change from Tuesday XI

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 12:02 PM
Tottenham: Vicario; Porro, Romero, Van de Ven, Davies; Hojbjerg, Bentancur; Kulusevski, Maddison, Werner; Son.
Subs: Austin, Dragusin, Royal, Sarr, Bissouma, Lo Celso, Gil, Johnson, Richarlison.

Arsenal: Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Tomiyasu, Rice, Partey, Odegaard, Saka, Trossard, Havertz.
Subs: Ramsdale, Zinchenko, Kiwior, Jorginho, Vieira, Smith Rowe, Martinelli, Jesus, Nketiah.

Mac76
28-04-2024, 12:07 PM
Happy with that lineup :good:

HCZ_Reborn
28-04-2024, 12:13 PM
Happy with that lineup :good:

Yeah I have to say on current form, it’s probably the best lineup we can put out

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 12:16 PM
Edited in the Spuds team.

Heard from Tottenham fans in the build-up to the game they were a bit concerned not having Dragusin in to deal with set pieces.

Mac76
28-04-2024, 12:41 PM
knowing our luck Werner will actually be on target for once

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:08 PM
we're being too ponderous, sideways passing and then giving the ball away

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:15 PM
Disallowed goal for Havertz.

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:16 PM
OG!!!?

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:17 PM
Bullet header from Hojberg. :bow:

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:18 PM
Good start, come on lads

Letters
28-04-2024, 01:18 PM
Great header :lol:

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:20 PM
Romero header just wide.

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:20 PM
Apparently the VAR guy is an Aussie - seriously, that shouldn't be allowed surely?

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:22 PM
Romero heads on to the post!

Letters
28-04-2024, 01:22 PM
Ugh. Spurs smack the post.
Come on, Arsenal

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 01:23 PM
1-1 :sick:

Letters
28-04-2024, 01:23 PM
Apparently the VAR guy is an Aussie - seriously, that shouldn't be allowed surely?

:lol:

…because he’s the same nationality as the Spurs manager? :blink:

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:23 PM
1-1 VDV.

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:23 PM
We're giving the ball away far too much, really sloppy

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:25 PM
:lol:

…because he’s the same nationality as the Spurs manager? :blink:

Err, yes?

There aren't many Aussies in English football, yet alone the manager, apparently he's very popular in Oz, it's fairly significant

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:25 PM
Disallowed!

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:25 PM
That goal was offside surely?

Come on Aussie show us you're objective

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:26 PM
Yes!

Spuds :pal:

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:28 PM
SAKA!!!! COME ON!!!!

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:29 PM
Yes, GTFI!!

Letters
28-04-2024, 01:30 PM
Err, yes?

There aren't many Aussies in English football, yet alone the manager, apparently he's very popular in Oz, it's fairly significant
Well, they ruled out the Spurs equaliser so I think we’re good

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 01:31 PM
Get the fuck in

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:32 PM
Well, they ruled out the Spurs equaliser so I think we’re good

Agreed :lol:

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:34 PM
All this stuff about did spuds have a pel is BS, none of them were pels

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:39 PM
HAVERTZ!!!!

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:40 PM
3-0 :haha:

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:41 PM
Ben White :bow:

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:45 PM
Son. :lol:

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:46 PM
Son :haha:

Letters
28-04-2024, 01:51 PM
We are overdoing it at the back at times.
Clear your lines!
We got away with that Son chance

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:52 PM
We're not playing with much composure in general, need to close the ball down better in the second half

Letters
28-04-2024, 01:52 PM
0-3 HT. I guess I’d have taken that

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 01:52 PM
0-3 HT. :haha:

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:53 PM
0-3 HT. I guess I’d have taken that

I expected it ;)

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 01:53 PM
You know what, I’m really happy with that.

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 01:55 PM
Bit of composure needed now to shut this game down. Don’t think the Spuds will go away quietly.

Letters
28-04-2024, 01:56 PM
I expected it ;)

:lol:

I’m still a bit worried. We aren’t looking that composed.
COYG

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:58 PM
The Aussie and his mates in the media will of course talk about the offside and the pelanty shout but fuck them, they weren't pels and anyway how many pels have we had not given this season

Mac76
28-04-2024, 01:59 PM
:lol:

I’m still a bit worried. We aren’t looking that composed.
COYG

Agree, if they get an early one in the second half it will be nervy

I won't be relaxed until it's 4-0 with 10 minutes to go

21_GOONER_SALUTE
28-04-2024, 02:03 PM
You know what, I’m really happy with that.

Definitely happy with the goals but I've not enjoyed watching this game so far.

We've clearly been second best and though we've been really professional with taking all our chances, we just seem so uneasy at the back and not able to impose ourselves. I mean the most annoying thing has been being 2nd best in most of the chalenges.

Anyway, we are winning 3-0. Partey starting has been an excellent choice. Hopefully we impose ourselves more in the 2nd half, and definitely ensure these 3 points.

BTW, Havertz 1st goal was not offside, so we've actually had 4 legitimate goals

dostoy
28-04-2024, 02:03 PM
Arsenal have to see this out now.

It is NOT over.

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:08 PM
Sarr is on for Bentancur.

21_GOONER_SALUTE
28-04-2024, 02:08 PM
Arsenal have to see this out now.

It is NOT over.

Its not over only because of the way we are playing.

Spurs coming back will be a catastrophe to any teams psyche.

We will win, but I want us to win this 5-0.

Mac76
28-04-2024, 02:09 PM
Sarr is on for Bentancur.

"Who?" ;)

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:13 PM
Romero heads another one over. :lol:

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:15 PM
Vicario saves from Saka!

Mac76
28-04-2024, 02:16 PM
Dreadful from Odegaard, we're still giving the ball away

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:17 PM
First half still ongoing based on how it has been. :lol:

Mac76
28-04-2024, 02:20 PM
Porro :lol:

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:26 PM
Trossard off, Martinelli on.

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:27 PM
Hojbjerg off, Bissouma on. Maddison off, Richarlison on.

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 02:27 PM
1-3

FFS Raya

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:27 PM
1-3 Romero.

Mac76
28-04-2024, 02:28 PM
Raya :doh:

Fucking dreadful

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 02:29 PM
Absolutely stupid. Unforgivable if this isn’t seen out now.

Letters
28-04-2024, 02:35 PM
Complete self destruction if we mess this up

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:48 PM
Pelanty coming up.

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 02:48 PM
Spuds penalty :rolleyes:

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 02:49 PM
2-3 Son

:sick:

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:50 PM
2-3 Son.

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 02:50 PM
So avoidable. Can’t believe we haven’t killed this game.

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:51 PM
Odegaard off, Kiwior on.

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 02:53 PM
6 added mins :sick:

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 02:59 PM
Full time!!!!

Fuck me. I need a drink.

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 02:59 PM
2-3 FT COME ON!!!!

Letters
28-04-2024, 03:02 PM
What a bloody mess! :lol: :doh:

Happy St Totteringham’s Day, everyone

21_GOONER_SALUTE
28-04-2024, 03:03 PM
We just love drama!!

A good 3 points, but overall a disappointing performance IMO.

Things could probably have been helped if Jesus and other subs had come on as it was quite clear a lot of our players were exhausted.

Letters
28-04-2024, 03:04 PM
It wasn’t a great performance and holy shit how did we contrive to make a 3-0 HT lead so stressful?

But we had to get a result and we did, so…

Marc Overmars
28-04-2024, 03:04 PM
Pumped for the 3 points but that was a really iffy performance. Didn’t feel like a 0-3 game at half time and allowing them to make a game of it was very avoidable.

When was the last time we won at WHL 2 seasons in a row? Big, big win and to be fair the points are the only thing that matter now.

Come on Forest. :lol:

HCZ_Reborn
28-04-2024, 03:06 PM
Anyone got a debifrilator ??

Letters
28-04-2024, 03:09 PM
Anyone got a debifrilator ??

Another nice relaxing afternoon following Arsenal.

Off for a lie down, brb

:sick:

HCZ_Reborn
28-04-2024, 03:11 PM
I think there was a bit of bedshitting second half but I have to say given the context of the game, kind of understandable

This for me was our best away win of the season

Letters
28-04-2024, 03:18 PM
I think there was a bit of bedshitting second half but I have to say given the context of the game, kind of understandable

This for me was our best away win of the season

It was completely self inflicted. Spurs would never have got back in to it on their own. We gifted them a goal and then a penalty to make a comfortable scoreline a stressful finish.

But in some ways maybe that makes the win more satisfying.
You just need to win the games at this stage. Doesn’t really matter how.

Mac76
28-04-2024, 03:20 PM
Horrible game but somehow we got through

dostoy
28-04-2024, 03:26 PM
Almost knew that would happen. That's why I hate too much celebration before the final whistle.

Three points most welcome though.

dazthegooner
28-04-2024, 03:29 PM
A good but nervy win and I've also happy in the knowledge that there is nothing wrong with my heart as it didn't somehow expode :good:

21_GOONER_SALUTE
28-04-2024, 03:45 PM
A good but nervy win and I've also happy in the knowledge that there is nothing wrong with my heart as it didn't somehow expode :good:
:haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
28-04-2024, 03:58 PM
Pumped for the 3 points but that was a really iffy performance. Didn’t feel like a 0-3 game at half time and allowing them to make a game of it was very avoidable.

When was the last time we won at WHL 2 seasons in a row? Big, big win and to be fair the points are the only thing that matter now.

Come on Forest. :lol:

88-89 apparently. :ninja:

HCZ_Reborn
28-04-2024, 04:06 PM
88-89 apparently. :ninja:

88-89 season we won 3-2 at WHL

Just saying

Ollie the Optimist
28-04-2024, 07:07 PM
At this stage of the season, it really doesn’t matter how, we just have to win and win we did. Away derby days are never pretty which is why we seem to rarely win them and first time in 30 plus years I think that we won twice in a row there.

I actually thought Raya, after his mistake, was outstanding. He pretty much claimed everything that was thrown at him and not much he could do on the penalty as it was a good one but bar that, I don’t think spurs really had any clear chances from the endless balls pumped into the box. It doesn’t excuse the mistake which was just iditotic but given the collapse last year, the derby match etc, he could have easily collapsed and spurs walk off with a draw. He responded brilliantly.

dostoy
29-04-2024, 03:05 PM
Spud manager Ange was very complimentary about Arsenal and especially Arteta after the game.

He was also correct about not celebrating goals until after VAR has okayed them, if there is a VAR check.

HCZ_Reborn
29-04-2024, 03:51 PM
Spud manager Ange was very complimentary about Arsenal and especially Arteta after the game.

He was also correct about not celebrating goals until after VAR has okayed them, if there is a VAR check.

Yeah I like Crocodile Greeky…he’s refreshingly honest and doesn’t keep to the same platitudinous script most managers stick to in interviews.

Shame he’s Spurs manager as I think on the whole he’s a genuine and likeable guy.

Letters
29-04-2024, 04:07 PM
I secretly quite like him too and actually he's doing a pretty good job at Spurs.
They've still typically Spursy, but he's got them playing pretty good football.

HCZ_Reborn
30-04-2024, 07:03 AM
Seen a lot of clips of pure shit housing from Ben White

From undoing Vicario’s gloves to giving verbals to Son when he’s about to take a penalty

Good lad :haha:

Letters
30-04-2024, 07:55 AM
I saw the glove thing. :lol:

Love it.

For years there's been a lot of "they don't like it up 'em". With people like him and Rice around there's a lot more steel about this side.

Mac76
30-04-2024, 01:15 PM
I secretly quite like him too and actually he's doing a pretty good job at Spurs.
They've still typically Spursy, but he's got them playing pretty good football.

I think he's a miserable arsehole who is doing quite a bad job, he's basically relying on Son at one end and the goalie at the other plus Romero, who's kind of a poor man's Rodri

For example everyone knows what Ben White does when we get a corner, they had TWO WEEKS to plan for it but hey, Ben White had the freedom of the penalty area

He only knows one way to play which makes his job pretty simple but it's not going to win them anything

IBK
02-05-2024, 11:26 AM
I think he's a miserable arsehole who is doing quite a bad job, he's basically relying on Son at one end and the goalie at the other plus Romero, who's kind of a poor man's Rodri

For example everyone knows what Ben White does when we get a corner, they had TWO WEEKS to plan for it but hey, Ben White had the freedom of the penalty area

He only knows one way to play which makes his job pretty simple but it's not going to win them anything

I dunno - this Spurs team reminds me of previous iterations of Arsenal. Excellent going forwards but lacking discipline and solidity, and capable of being got at. I'd be a bit worried if I were a Sp*rs fan :sick: about him not bothering about corners etc - but long may this last.

I think this game showed where Arsenal have matured. I'd agree that this wasn't our best performance - and Sp*rs actually played quite well - with the benefit of 2 weeks' rest. But we managed the key moments better, and (bar 2 defensive mistakes that gifted them their goals) controlled the game when it mattered. Huge result.

Mac76
02-05-2024, 11:41 AM
I don't think you can play that well and be 0-3 at HT

People can talk about the chances they had but if you don't take your chances that's not "playing well".

Letters
02-05-2024, 12:49 PM
They did take the best chance they had, tbh, but someone's toenail was offside so it got chalked off.
More VAR nonsense, although this one went for us.
I don't think Spurs were the better side. They had more possession but didn't do much with it. But it certainly wasn't a game which we deserved to be leading 3-0 at HT. That said, had we not self destructed with a Raya brainfart and conceding a late penalty, there's no way Spurs would have got back in to it. We lost possession too easily but Spurs didn't do enough with it, they never seriously threatened us.

WMUG
02-05-2024, 01:11 PM
Letting them have posession in wide areas and blocking them from getting into the middle where they could hurt us was the plan. Feature, not bug, as they say.

Notice how many crosses they had to put in, and who the best keeper in the league is at plucking crosses out of the air.

LDG
02-05-2024, 11:45 PM
Letting them have posession in wide areas and blocking them from getting into the middle where they could hurt us was the plan. Feature, not bug, as they say.

Notice how many crosses they had to put in, and who the best keeper in the league is at plucking crosses out of the air.

Yep. Agree with that.

The biggest issue for me was the slow and sloppy distribution from the back and the amount of times we got caught in possession. Clearly you want to sucker them in to commit bodies, but some of the donkeywork was shite.

Niall_Quinn
05-05-2024, 07:56 PM
We were absolute shit, contrary to the bullshit a lot of the pundits are trolling out about dominance and "breaking" the spuds. The spuds dominated us, and quite easily. Because we were scared and our mentality sucks when it comes to the critical games. Nowhere near as badly as before, Arteta has fixed some of the problem. But we still shit a brick when the big games arrive. City game being the one rare exception, maybe because they think they have nothing to lose so they don't worry? Who knows. BUT. The spuds are SO SHIT, it didn't matter. I mean what a bunch of fucking useless clowns. That's 4 losses in a row at the business end of the season? Hilarious. If we hadn't beaten them I'd have been amazed. It was a guaranteed 3 points if we are in any way a serious club. So is the Utd game. Let's see if we turn up or hide.

HCZ_Reborn
05-05-2024, 08:06 PM
We were absolute shit, contrary to the bullshit a lot of the pundits are trolling out about dominance and "breaking" the spuds. The spuds dominated us, and quite easily. Because we were scared and our mentality sucks when it comes to the critical games. Nowhere near as badly as before, Arteta has fixed some of the problem. But we still shit a brick when the big games arrive. City game being the one rare exception, maybe because they think they have nothing to lose so they don't worry? Who knows. BUT. The spuds are SO SHIT, it didn't matter. I mean what a bunch of fucking useless clowns. That's 4 losses in a row at the business end of the season? Hilarious. If we hadn't beaten them I'd have been amazed. It was a guaranteed 3 points if we are in any way a serious club. So is the Utd game. Let's see if we turn up or hide.

So we absolutely were wrong to sit back against Spurs, soak up their pressure and hit them on the break ? Because…

We shit the bed in the second half and missed the chance to kill things off but oh well.

We didn’t play great against them or Bournemouth you’re quite right, but so what? We are winning games despite struggling to break teams down who sit back at home and are a bit nervy at the back. But a win is a win

It feels to me that you’re so conditioned to complaining that you need to find something to complain about.

Niall_Quinn
05-05-2024, 09:50 PM
So we absolutely were wrong to sit back against Spurs, soak up their pressure and hit them on the break ? Because…

We shit the bed in the second half and missed the chance to kill things off but oh well.

We didn’t play great against them or Bournemouth you’re quite right, but so what? We are winning games despite struggling to break teams down who sit back at home and are a bit nervy at the back. But a win is a win

It feels to me that you’re so conditioned to complaining that you need to find something to complain about.

Wrong as usual. You're the one moaning on about Arteta while I say he's done better than anybody, probably in world football today, could have done. I complain when it's warranted, give praise when it's warranted. You play for the audience. Big difference.

Niall_Quinn
05-05-2024, 09:52 PM
Seen a lot of clips of pure shit housing from Ben White

From undoing Vicario’s gloves to giving verbals to Son when he’s about to take a penalty

Good lad :haha:

Most improved player at the club. Literally couldn't kick a ball two seasons ago.

HCZ_Reborn
06-05-2024, 03:10 AM
Wrong as usual. You're the one moaning on about Arteta while I say he's done better than anybody, probably in world football today, could have done. I complain when it's warranted, give praise when it's warranted. You play for the audience. Big difference.

Me play for the audience?

You come on here as the drunken misanthrope and play the role to perfection


Out of the two of us, I know I’m genuine…you on the other hand. Utterly performative