Champions League 24/25

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Young Boys 0-3 Aston Villa, Tielemans, Ramsey and Onana.

Quite a strike from Onana.

So was Duran's actually but that was dislallowed for handball earlier in the move.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Juventus 3-1 PSV, Yildiz, McKennie, Gonzalez and Saibari.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

AC Milan v Liverpool, 20:00
Bayern Munich v Dinamo Zagreb, 20:00
Real Madrid v Stuttgart, 20:00
Sporting Lisbon v Lille, 20:00

Those are the other games tonight.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Is it me, or did it used to be that the only Champions League game that kicked off early was when it was at the arse end of Europe with a +3 or + 4 hour time difference from GMT.

The good thing about the group stages is that you used to have eight different matches kicking off at once, and you could swap around and watch different games.

I’ll be honest, I’ve kind of changed my mind about the new format…it’s got potential. But UEFA will do its upmost to ruin it

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Young Boys 0-3 Villa, FT. Villa are top of the 36 team table!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Is it me, or did it used to be that the only Champions League game that kicked off early was when it was at the arse end of Europe with a +3 or + 4 hour time difference from GMT.

The good thing about the group stages is that you used to have eight different matches kicking off at once, and you could swap around and watch different games.

I’ll be honest, I’ve kind of changed my mind about the new format…it’s got potential. But UEFA will do its upmost to ruin it

No and yes. Yes in that still happens but no as in it iisn'tjust those games at 17:45.

Also I suppose yes in the sense that the above only happened in the last few years.

Before that, it was only the far afield games.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Milan v Liverpool is on Amazon Prime. :wacko:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Milan 1-0 Liverpool, Pulisic!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

AC Milan: Maignan; Calabria, Pavlovic, Tomori, Hernandez; Fofana, Loftus-Cheek; Pulisic, Reijnders, Leao; Morata.
Subs: Nava, Torriani, Okafor, Zeroli, Chukwueze, Emerson, Bartesaghi, Terracciano, Gabbia, Musah, Abraham.

Liverpool: Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Konate, Van Dijk, Tsimikas; Gravenberch, Mac Allister; Salah, Szoboszlai, Gakpo; Jota.
Subs: Jaros, Kelleher, Gomez, Endo, Díaz, Núñez, Chiesa, Jones, Robertson, Quansah, Morton, Bradley.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Milan 1-0 Liverpool, Pulisic!

Liverpool look as I said on Saturday Languid…although that said Salah very unfortunate not to equalise just now after hitting the bar

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bayern Munich 1-0 Dinamo Zagreb, Kane pelanty.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Milan 1-1 Liverpool, Konate!

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Salah his the woodwork!

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Bayern Munich 2-0 Dinamo Zagreb, Guerreiro.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-0 Olise. :lol:

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Milan 1-2 Liverpool, Van Dijk!

[HCZ_Reborn]

Liverpool lead Van Dijk. Marking from Milan, more precarious than Spurs against us

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sporting 1-0 Lille, Gyokeres.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Maignan's final contribution is saving whilst injured.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Milan 1-3 Liverpool, Szoboszlai.

[Marc Overmars]

A bit shit we’re having to play on Thursday.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Kane has four goals (including a hat trick of pels)

Also 1-1 in the Bernabeu, good result for Stuttgart if it stays like this

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bayern Munich 7-2 Dinamo Zagreb now. WTF.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

8-2 now, Sane. :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Good to know we have Zagreb at home too. :lol:

[HCZ_Reborn]

I jinxed it for Stuttgart

[McNamara That Ghost...]

9-2 Goretzka. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wednesday, 18th September 2024
Bologna 0-0 Shakhtar Donetsk, FT
Sparta Prague 3-0 Red Bull Salzburg, FT
Celtic v Slovan, 20:00
Club Brugge v Borussia Dortmund, 20:00
Manchester City v Inter Milan, 20:00
PSG v Girona, 20:00

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Manchester City: Ederson, Akanji, Dias, Gvardiol, Lewis, Rodri, Savio, Bernardo Silva, De Bruyne, Grealish, Haaland.
Subs: Ortega, Carson, Walker, Stones, Kovacic, Doku, Gundogan, Matheus Luiz, Foden, McAtee.

Inter Milan: Sommer, Bisseck, Acerbi, Bastoni, Darmian, Barella, Calhanoglu, Zielinski, Carlos Augusto, Thuram, Taremi.
Subs: Di Gennaro, Josep Martinez, Dumfries, de Vrij, Lautaro Martinez, Frattesi, Asllani, Mkhitaryan, Pavard.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Celtic are 1-0 up.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Thuram should have got that on target.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Darmian goes for a backheel, fuck knows why.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Darmian goes for a backheel, fuck knows why.

Because he’s a useless shite that boy

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-0 Celtic are leading.

[HCZ_Reborn]

City’s kit is awful, it looks like a Val Doonican colour combination

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Martinez on.

Mkhitaryan on too. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

City’s kit is awful, it looks like a Val Doonican colour combination

Noel Gallagher designed it, which tells you everything.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mkhitaryan fucked up a great chance

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Doku looks like an owl.

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5-1 Celtic.

How bad must Slovan Bratislava be.

Club Brugge 0-2 Dortmund.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man City 0-0 Inter, FT.

Inter softening them up for us. :bow:

[GP]

Doku looks like an owl.

Who?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Particularly like Blathers.

No, good old Jeremy. I don't want to say too much in case he has a wild one against us.

[Letters]

City’s kit is awful, it looks like a Val Doonican colour combination

Reference for the kids, there!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Feyenoord 0-4 Bayer Leverkusen
Red Star Belgrade 0-2 Benfica
Atalanta v Arsenal, 20:00
Atletico Madrid v RB Leipzig, 20:00
Brest v Sturm Graz, 20:00
Monaco v Barcelona, 20:00

[McNamara That Ghost...]

RB Salzburg v Brest, 17:45
Stuttgart v Sparta Prague, 17:45
Arsenal v PSG, 20:00
Barcelona v Young Boys, 20:00
Bayer Leverkusen v AC Milan, 20:00
Borussia Dortmund v Celtic, 20:00
Inter Milan v Red Star Belgrade, 20:00
PSV v Sporting Lisbon, 20:00
Slovan Bratislava v Manchester City, 20:00

[HCZ_Reborn]

Brest playing two Austrian teams back to back? Surely not the big match ties they’d have dreamed of when they qualified for the competition

[HCZ_Reborn]

Although further down the line they go to the Nou Camp and host Real Madrid


Edit sorry not the Nou Camp, that’s still being renovated

Let’s hope for Barcas sake it doesn’t become a White Elephant like the new Mestalla has for Valencia

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brest are smashing it, 0-3 up!

Stuttgart 1-1 Sparta Prague

[Mac76]

4 for Brest

Red Bull :pal:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dortmund 1-0 Celtic, Can pelanty.

Slovan Bratislava 0-1 Man City, Gundogan.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dortmund 1-1 Celtic, Maeda!

Barcelona 1-0 Young Boys, Lewandowski.

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Dortmund 2-1 Celtic, Adeyemi. WTF.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Inter 1-0 Red Star, Calhanoglu

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Slovan Bratislava 0-2 Man City, Foden.
PSV 1-0 Sporting, Schouten.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dortmund 3-1 Celtic, Adeyemi.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barcelona 3-0 Young Boys, Raphinha and Inigo Martinez.

Borussia Dortmund 4-1 Celtic, Guirrassy pelanty.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dortmund 5-1 Celtic, Adeyemi hat-trick.

That wipes out Celtic's GD from the last game. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barcelona 4-0 Young Boys, Lewandowski with his second.

Slovan Bratislava 0-3 Man City, Haaland.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bayer Leverkusen 1-0 Milan, Boniface!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Inter 2-0 Red Star, Arnautovic.

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Dortmund 6-1 Celtic, Guirassy with his second.

[dazthegooner]

Great advert for Scottish football.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Inter 3-0 Red Star, Lautaro Martinez.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Slovan Bratislava 0-4 Man City, McAtee

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dortmund 7-1 Celtic, Nmecha. Jesus wept.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Inter 4-0 Red Star, Taremi pelanty.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barcelona 5-0 Young Boys, Camara OG.

[Mac76]

Dortmund 7-1 Celtic, Nmecha. Jesus wept.

Scottish football :pal:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Villa play Bayern tonight (a replay of the 1982 European cup final). On one hand, I think it’s good that such a prestigious fixture comes to Villa Park and as I still like old Good Ebening, I wish them well.

On the other hand, I’m a bitter spiteful person and I still haven’t forgiven the club for effectively ending our chance of winning the league (yet only managing one win from the next five after that, meaning that their Emirates win was what secured them top four essentially)

So fuck them :lol:

[Mac76]

On the other hand, I’m a bitter spiteful person and I still haven’t forgiven the club for effectively ending our chance of winning the league

That was down to us not scoring and then being hit late on

also I still blame Zin more for fucking up at home against Fulham and in general weakening the team - and while I think Arteta's learning he should have seen his huge faults much earlier, especially as he knew him at Citeh

had we swapped Zin for a decent LB last season we might well have won the league

[HCZ_Reborn]

I thought it was meant to be me that didn’t have a sense of humour (well obviously that isn’t the case but it’s one of numerous spurious claims you make)
Plus in fairness I in no way have claimed that either them winning was in anyway illegitimate or that our own failings weren’t responsible for the defeat.

Given that the most you can say about Zinchenko is that his meandering cost us three points (the point against Villa and two points against Fulham..and even then I’d argue that the game should have put to bed before) says far more about fine margins than anything

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Champions League tonight;

Girona 2-3 Feyenoord
Shakhtar Donetsk 0-3 Atalanta
Aston Villa v Bayern Munich, 20:00
Benfica v Atletico Madrid, 20:00
Dinamo Zagreb v Monaco, 20:00
Lille v Real Madrid, 20:00
Liverpool v Bologna, 20:00
RB Leipzig v Juventus, 20:00
Storm Graz v Club Brugge, 20:00

[HCZ_Reborn]

Interesting results, Feyenoord get trounced 4-0 at home to Leverkusen but manage to win away at Girona

Shaktah get a draw in Bologna but lose at home (usually that word very loosely) to Atalanta

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Blatant foul from Upamecano, not given

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Now he gets a yellow for the same thing

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Villa 1-0 Bayern, Torres!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Offside apparently. :wacko:

Still 0-0

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kane is pissed with Gnabry

[HCZ_Reborn]

Couple of interesting scorelines with Leipzig winning against Juventus and Benfica winning against Atletico

[HCZ_Reborn]

Jonathan David Pel has given Lille lead over Real Madrid just before half time

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Real Madrid. :lol:

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Liverpool 2-0 Bologna, Salah.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Villa 1-0 Bayern Munich, Duran! That was brilliant.

[HCZ_Reborn]

We need to sign that Colombian lad

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 FT. Crazy saves from Martinez at the end!

[Marc Overmars]

Great stuff Villa. Looking at their fixtures you have to think top 8 is a possibility now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kane. :haha:

[Letters]

Kane. :haha:

:gp:

[HCZ_Reborn]

That goal from Single Duran is exceptional.

Times his run, barely takes a touch before releasing a lob/shot.

[Mac76]

:gp:

agreed :)

I was listening to this on the radio and i just watched the goal this morning - although people are right about Neuer being too far off his line, that Duran guy is unbelievable, a brilliant effort - although he's doomed to be on the bench forever now :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Duran strikes me as one those cult hero type of players who’ll be remembered for the worldies but not much else. Villa fans don’t even want him in the starting line up because his overall play isn’t great and apparently he’s not always been the most professional.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Duran strikes me as one those cult hero type of players who’ll be remembered for the worldies but not much else. Villa fans don’t even want him in the starting line up because his overall play isn’t great and apparently he’s not always been the most professional.

Laurent Robert basically?

Doesn’t surprise me, there is always a reason why a player isn’t starting games. Even in their game with us, the relentless pressing of Rice and Partey by Rodgers and Watkins ceased when Watkins was substituted for Duran.

[WMUG]

I don't know if you can call Neuer being off his line a mistake, it's what he does. Sweeping is a huge part of his game (or at least it was when I last watched him).

It's a calculated risk that was brilliantly taken advantage of by Duran.

[Mac76]

I don't know if you can call Neuer being off his line a mistake, it's what he does. Sweeping is a huge part of his game (or at least it was when I last watched him).

It's a calculated risk that was brilliantly taken advantage of by Duran.

I think when there's a defender there who in theory has at least a 50/50 chance of getting the ball, you should stay back, if he stays back it's not on for Duran to shoot and he then has to try something else with a defender in close attendance

If that's Neuer's game, whatever, it's still a mistake IMO

[HCZ_Reborn]

Regardless, it still takes a player with exceptional quick thinking and skill to take advantage

Plus the thing is, you can argue any goal is preventable. Even 40 yard screamers, defence could have closed them down better etc. And whether Neuer could or should have stayed on his line, I’d personally not want to detract from what was a wonderful goal.

[Mac76]

...and if you read my original post abiut it I did praise Duran for it

[HCZ_Reborn]

...and if you read my original post abiut it I did praise Duran for it

I don’t think I claimed otherwise did I?

All I said was that I personally wouldn’t make too big a deal over whether Neuer was too far off his line as I feel it would detract from the goal

That’s all….as you were :tiphat:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Milan 2-1 Club Brugge and Monaco 3-1 Red Star currently

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aston Villa v Bologna
Girona v Slovan Bratislava
Juventus v Stuttgart
PSG v PSV Eindhoven
Real Madrid v Borussia Dortmund
Sturm Graz v Sporting Lisbon

[McNamara That Ghost...]

5-1 Monaco win in the end.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

PSG 0-1 PSV, Lang.

Real Madrid 0-2 Dortmund, Malen and Gittens!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Juventus 0-1 Stuttgart, Undav.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Vila 1-0 Bologna, McGinn

PSG 1-1 PSV, Hakimi.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Marketing 1-2 Dortmund, Rudiger.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Villa 2-0 Bologna, Duran.

Real Madrid 2-2 Dortmund, Vinicius

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Real Madrid 3-2 Dortmund, Vazquez.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Real Madrid 5-2 Dortmund in the end, Vinicus hat-trick. :blink:

[Niall_Quinn]

Real Madrid 5-2 Dortmund in the end, Vinicus hat-trick. :blink:

Is it Madrid scoring, or the ref? You never know these days.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barcelona 1-1 Bayern Munich!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 Liverpool, Nunez

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barcelona 2-1 Bayern Munich, Lewandowski!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

4-1 now. Raphinha hat-trick!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tuesday, 5th November 2024
PSV v Girona, 17:45
Slovan Bratislava v Dinamo Zagreb, 17:45
Bologna v Monaco, 20:00
Borussia Dortmund v Sturm Graz, 20:00
Celtic v RB Leipzig, 20:00
Lille v Juventus, 20:00
Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen, 20:00
Real Madrid v AC Milan, 20:00
Sporting v Manchester City, 20:00

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Real Madrid 1-2 AC Milan and Sporting 1-1 Man City in the most interesting ties so far.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sporting 3-1 Man City. :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Cue the Amorim wankfest.

At least we play them when he’s gone. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool 1-0 Leverkusen, Diaz.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-0 now, Gakpo.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Real Madrid 1-3 Milan. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-0 Liverpool, Diaz again.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sporting 4-1 Man City. Gykoeres hat-trick, two of them pels.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Real Madrid 2-3 Milan, Rudiger.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Looks like that goal was disallowed.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

4-0 Liverpool, Diaz, hat-trick.

Neverkusen are back. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Villa are losing again. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Club Brugge 1-0 Villa, FT. Three defeats in a row for them now.

[Letters]

Pel to City. And probably right.

[Letters]

1-0 City. Haaland pel

[HCZ_Reborn]

City blown a three goal lead. 3-3

Bleeding out

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Citeh. :lol:

At least they didn't lose I suppose.

[Marc Overmars]

Wow. :haha:

City are a mess, weird seeing them turn to shit after so many years of ridiculous dominance.

[HCZ_Reborn]

It’s like watching Scarface where it gradually all goes to shit for Tony Montana.

He gets busted for money laundering and tax evasion, he kills Hector Salamanca rather than blow up the Narco whistle blower, he kills his best friend in jealous rage, he watches his sister die and then finally gets shot in the back by the bad ass dude in shades.

City have gone from “Push it to the Limit” montage to Giorgio Moroder’s ominous soundtrack and the symbol of “The World can be yours” appears nothing but a cynical joke


All we can hope for now is a Guardiola “you need people like me” rant

[Letters]

:haha: Bother. I'd stopped watching at half time - I'm a Celebrity doesn't watch itself!
Wish I'd watched the rest now.

[HCZ_Reborn]

As much as it pains me to say it, fully rooting for Real Madrid this evening

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

:lol:

I actually wonder if Vinicius being out helps them in that Mbappe can roam more freely on the left, and they have a little bit more balance across the pitch.

In any case. It's Real Madrid. In the Champions League. :arry:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wednesday, 27th November 2024
Red Star Belgrade 5-2 Stuttgart
Sturm Graz 1-0 Girona
Aston Villa v Juventus, 20:00
Bologna v Lille, 20:00
Celtic v Club Brugge, 20:00
Dinamo Zagreb v Borussia Dortmund, 20:00
Liverpool v Real Madrid, 20:00
Monaco v Benfica, 20:00
PSV v Shakhtar Donetsk, 20:00

[McNamara That Ghost...]

:lol:

I actually wonder if Vinicius being out helps them in that Mbappe can roam more freely on the left, and they have a little bit more balance across the pitch.

In any case. It's Real Madrid. In the Champions League. :arry:

Probably better for Mbappe in theory. One of Bellingham, Mbappe and Vinicius will have to drop out I think when they're all back.

Starting them all and then Rodrygo too is overkill.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nadal is there.

Suppose what else is he going to do now?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool: Kelleher, Bradley, Konate, Van Dijk, Robertson, Gravenberch, Mac Allister, Jones, Salah, Nunez, Diaz.
Subs: Jaros, Davies, Gomez, Endo, Szoboszlai, Gakpo, Elliott, Alexander-Arnold, Quansah, Morton.

Real Madrid: Courtois, Valverde, Rudiger, Acencio, Mendy, Arda Guler, Camavinga, Modric, Bellingham, Mbappe, Brahim.
Subs: Lunin, Fran Gonzalez, Endrick, Lucas Vazquez, Vallejo, Dani Ceballos, Fran Garcia, Gonzalo.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cleared off the line from Asencio!

All came from Mbappe sleeping.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Great keeping from Courtois.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mbappe is not a better player now than he was at 19.

Made some bad career choices tbf.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool 1-0 Real Madrid, Mac Allister.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty to Marketing!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mbappe has it saved. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty to Liverpool now.

Mendy. :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Salah. :haha:

That was more out than in.

[Marc Overmars]

I wonder how long before Mbappe is booed and abused by their fans.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool 2-0 Real Madrid, Gakpo.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

:lol:

I actually wonder if Vinicius being out helps them in that Mbappe can roam more freely on the left, and they have a little bit more balance across the pitch.

In any case. It's Real Madrid. In the Champions League. :arry:

I was wrong on all counts :lol:

They were absolutely abysmal.

Though Konate could be crocked...

[Marc Overmars]

:sick:

Though I think this was a rather predictable result anyway.

[Niall_Quinn]

Can nobody else see where this is going? The fact they can prop up such a bullshit, non-sensical "league" should tell you everything. This is a midway point before the real league takes shape. And they are clever bastards, wouldn't surprise me if they use people like me to highlight how spectacularly non-league, bush-league this "league" is. If you don't ever get a change to measure yourself against the opposition on a level playing field then how can any result ever be respected? This "league" goes against everything sport is supposed to be about, it's a joke and a sham and should be obliterated before it turns into what they always had in mind anyway. The results, btw, are 100% meaningless. How can you place any stock in any result from this "league" when your other opponents didn't get the same chance to measure themselves against your opposition?

Time to go back to the European CUP which said it all, CUP competition, which is never meant to be fair and is always based on the luck of the draw. These faggot Europeans are trying to play out a giant, cash grabbing, fan robbing tournament pretending it is a league because eventually they will have their league.

Weren't we ALL against this when Arsenal were rumbled for their bullshit moves a few yers back? So whay are we suddenly jacking off as if any of this is normal or acceptable?

[Letters]

Weren't we ALL against this when Arsenal were rumbled for their bullshit moves a few yers back? So whay are we suddenly jacking off as if any of this is normal or acceptable?
It is interesting that most football fans seem to be in on the joke that it's all going to shit, but...people keep watching.
So long as the money keeps rolling in they'll keep doing it.
:shrug:

[HCZ_Reborn]

The ESL as I understand it was a breakaway tournament featuring the so called elite clubs of Europe, proposed as an alternative to the champions league. The main issue with it as far as I could see apart from the obvious greed motivating the founder clubs was that this was non competitive….the same clubs would compete in the league year in year out, creating a permanent and unalterable hierarchy…essentially codifying the existing hegemony.

UEFA changing the format of its own competition to a league format, I’m not exactly sure how contiguous that is with the ESL proposal that was apart from anything else meant to cut the legs off UEFA.

Also I would argue that Uefa’s new format makes it if anything harder for top seeded clubs as their seeding no longer insulates them from playing another top seeded club in the early stages.

Is the whole thing ridiculously greedy and does it add to a congested fixture list? Yes of course


But given that the whole format has been about generating money for the last thirty years, I’m not going to complain too much about avoiding playing FC Communist Home and Away back to back.

[Letters]

I can't really see the point in the format change. It could be to soften people up for another attempt at a super-league.
The bigger issue is the expansion of the CL itself, to the point where the name is a complete misnomer.
It's not for champions any more, which means there can be a group of teams at the top of each league who can, with careful management, qualify year on year. The money generated from that qualification helps keep them up there and the importance of getting or staying there means that a Top 4 finish is an important minimum requirement. Wenger was chastised for saying it's like a trophy, and rightly so, but it has become a disproportionally important thing

[HCZ_Reborn]

I can't really see the point in the format change. It could be to soften people up for another attempt at a super-league.
The bigger issue is the expansion of the CL itself, to the point where the name is a complete misnomer.
It's not for champions any more, which means there can be a group of teams at the top of each league who can, with careful management, qualify year on year. The money generated from that qualification helps keep them up there and the importance of getting or staying there means that a Top 4 finish is an important minimum requirement. Wenger was chastised for saying it's like a trophy, and rightly so, but it has become a disproportionally important thing


Well it absolutely wouldn’t, in fact it would be the opposite. The league format would be to head off the idea of the ESL by inducing the big clubs not to form their own breakaway competitor to the UCL.


The issue of the Champions League no longer being about the champions playing each other is a valid argument, but it’s clearly not a new one. Finishing 4th and getting through to the qualifying round of the Champions League has been a thing for over twenty years.


I don’t like that there are eight games, and the league format going on till January. And expanding the amount of clubs that can take part is of course responsible for that. But the league format in of itself I really take no issue with, I think the group stage was utterly dull with big clubs playing small clubs home and away, and for the small club it was never about having a chance of winning it was about getting the tv money.


I think when you play different teams of varied ability I think it makes it more interesting in my view.

[HCZ_Reborn]

And I say this as someone who has gone on the record as saying I’ve hated every change UEFA brought to the format of the Champions League. I don’t hate this

[Niall_Quinn]

So if our fixture list in a similarly constructed was Liverpool, Villa and "minnow" Brighton, whereas the gypos got "giants" Utd, ex-winners Leicester and Soton? What would we be saying if the gypos were on an open top bus celebrating being champions? The CL is now neither a cup or a league, it's a deformed bastard of the two. And the way they will "correct" this is to turn it into the league they always wanted. The end result of this will be a PL schedule that doesn't even have Arsenal or the gypos in the fixture list because they will be too busy playing 38 games a season in Europe. The PL will be the equivalent of today's Championship, already badly though aptly named to reflect the long term plan. Follow the money, ALL the money. Added to that the moaning Euro clubs will finally get control over the mean PL expenditure which has been a goal for years.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

108 teams playing in Europe across all the group stages is fucking ridiculous.

Where's the honour in qualifying for Europe?

I didn't know even the shitting Conference League has the 36 team format! :wacko:

I think this format is a bit underwhelming. There are so many teams getting hammered every single week in the Champions League.

I'm not sure what it is, maybe teams thinking they can just coast and only perform in 2 games hoping that'll be enough?

Also to be honest the amount of games and this extending until January and having to wait until then to know where you're at, I'm not really for that either.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Oh and the final group stage gameweek where everyone plays at the same time will be mad.

[Marc Overmars]

The problem is that there is no jeopardy with the matches and that no one really knows what will be enough to see them through whether that’s in the top 8 or the play off ties.

I’m sure once the knockouts commence there will be a better feel to it but this league format is pretty dull.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yeah I do agree.

I assume the play-offs can't have country protection.

That'll be fun to see I guess but god it's a hard slog to get there.

[Mac76]

There is some jeopardy because if you don't finish top 8 there's two extra qualifying games to play and we really need to avoid that

[HCZ_Reborn]

https://youtu.be/vWuQVpBeqLs?si=RVsJkURBWn5S0rC1

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Juventus 1-0 Citeh, Vlahovic. :lol:

Dortmund 0-1 Barcelona, Raphinha.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dortmund 1-1 Barcelona, Guirassy pelanty.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-0 Juve, McKennie. :lol:

Dortmund 1-2 Barcelona, Ferran Torres.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dortmund 2-2 Barcelona, Guirassy with his second!

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Mark Ogden: "Man City fans trying to leave the Juventus Stadium have just been told over loudspeaker that they have to stay until they're allowed out. Brutal"

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dortmund 2-3 Barcelona in the end, Ferran Torres with his second.

[Niall_Quinn]

Mark Ogden: "Man City fans trying to leave the Juventus Stadium have just been told over loudspeaker that they have to stay until they're allowed out. Brutal"

:haha:

Hopefully 20 years with parole for good (but not by Manchester standards) behaviour.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mark Ogden: "Man City fans trying to leave the Juventus Stadium have just been told over loudspeaker that they have to stay until they're allowed out. Brutal"

:haha:

Who would leave during a 2-0 anyway?

[Niall_Quinn]

Who would leave during a 2-0 anyway?

People who have last trains that go anywhere but Manchester.

[Niall_Quinn]

Looking like Paisley era Liverpool. Remember tables like that, back when it was real.

[Marc Overmars]

City could be knocked out if they lose at PSG next. :lol:

What a disaster of a season they’re having and it couldn’t have happened to a more deserving bunch.

[Niall_Quinn]

City could be knocked out if they lose at PSG next. :lol:

What a disaster of a season they’re having and it couldn’t have happened to a more deserving bunch.

Mercenaries can't be trusted. Seems there has been a subtle change in reffing, things you would never see are now being seen. Maybe the authorities have decided the fan backlash is bad for business.

[Letters]

Maybe the authorities have decided the fan backlash is bad for business.
Or maybe the underlying thesis about the authorities was wrong.

[Niall_Quinn]

Or maybe the underlying thesis about the authorities was wrong.

Are you genuinely suggesting the football authorities aren't corrupt to the core? Not even you could go that far surely?

[Letters]

Are you genuinely suggesting the football authorities aren't corrupt to the core?
Years ago someone said to me that in a sport with that much money sloshing around there had to be corruption. And that conversation took place over 25 years ago, before the money became truly insane. So yes, it is hard to believe that there's no corruption. I mean, the World Cup has just been awarded to Saudi Arabia. But...is there any great conspiracy to prevent Arsenal from winning a title? I call bullshit on that. It is certainly more plausible that there's more of a pro-City policy, fuelled by money changing hands behind the scenes. And earlier in the season I was coming to that view. But now with City having dropped off a cliff that is harder to believe. I think mostly the standard of officiating is really poor. To me that explains a lot of what we see. You can make an anti-Arsenal narrative fit by cherry picking incidents but the fans of every club believe their club is uniquely maligned.

[Niall_Quinn]

Years ago someone said to me that in a sport with that much money sloshing around there had to be corruption. And that conversation took place over 25 years ago, before the money became truly insane. So yes, it is hard to believe that there's no corruption. I mean, the World Cup has just been awarded to Saudi Arabia. But...is there any great conspiracy to prevent Arsenal from winning a title? I call bullshit on that. It is certainly more plausible that there's more of a pro-City policy, fuelled by money changing hands behind the scenes. And earlier in the season I was coming to that view. But now with City having dropped off a cliff that is harder to believe. I think mostly the standard of officiating is really poor. To me that explains a lot of what we see. You can make an anti-Arsenal narrative fit by cherry picking incidents but the fans of every club believe their club is uniquely maligned.

Where did I say there's some great conspiracy to prevent Arsenal winning the title? No, I haven't looked back at the thread, but I'd be genuinely amazed if I said that, and therefore amazed that you have pinpointed me saying that. Do me a favour and quote it will you, and if I said it then I take it back. Never said there's a conspiracy against Arsenal. Plenty of teams get fucked over by the obviously, 100% corrupt officials. What I have always said is the gambling markets in Asia fund the corruption. Can't prove it, but it makes sense given the horrific association between football and the gambling gangsters. I've also said there is definitely a huge amount of bias enjoyed by the gypos over the last few years, this can hardly be disputed. But now it seems that has ended and I was wondering why. Something better must have come along.

As for speculating if organisation like FIFA, UEFA and the PL are corrupt - what's the point of that? You don't need to debate the obvious and SOME of the evidence is out there already. Creatures like Sepp Blatter? Mike Dean? Gary Neville? Come on. Do we need to discuss the finer details of every last obvious thing? We just assume we'll get wet if we go out in the rain, right? We don't need a full scientific workup each and every time.

[Letters]

Where did I say there's some great conspiracy to prevent Arsenal winning the title? No, I haven't looked back at the thread, but I'd be genuinely amazed if I said that, and therefore amazed that you have pinpointed me saying that. Do me a favour and quote it will you, and if I said it then I take it back. Never said there's a conspiracy against Arsenal. Plenty of teams get fucked over by the obviously, 100% corrupt officials. What I have always said is the gambling markets in Asia fund the corruption. Can't prove it, but it makes sense given the horrific association between football and the gambling gangsters. I've also said there is definitely a huge amount of bias enjoyed by the gypos over the last few years, this can hardly be disputed. But now it seems that has ended and I was wondering why. Something better must have come along.

After the City game you said "it's not anti-Arsenal, it's pro-City". And that's a narrative I did buy in to at the time. They have enough money to throw around to influence things behind the scenes.
But I don't really see how you affect results as much as some are claiming, we were an injury time goal away from a win there, I don't really see how you plan that for betting markets or anyone else. There are such fine lines in football it's very hard to reliably engineer a result. And if it was all pro-City then...what, it suddenly stopped? Why? I'd suggest it's more likely that it actually wasn't all as pro-City as I supposed. If it is then they're doing a pretty rubbish job of late.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Monaco 1-0 Villa is a result from earlier. Looked like they used up all their energy against us. :rose:

Atalanta 5-0 Sturm Graz in the other earlier one.

Benfica 2-1 Barca at the moment. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Benfica 3-1 Barca. :haha:

Pavlidis hat-trick.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool 1-0 Lille, Salah.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 now but Lille are down to 10 men.

2-1 Liverpool in fact, Elliott deflected pubber.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Benfica 4-2 Barcelona. :wacko:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Benfica 4-3 Barcelona. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Benfica 4-4 Barcelona, Garcia.

Mad game.

[Mac76]

Liverpool win 2-1, that's 7/7 in the CL

And ofc they're also clear at the top of the PL

Still, what a rubbish team, eh? :rolleyes:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Benfica 4-5 Barcelona, Raphinha.

Barca should have conceded a pel!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Benfica 4-5 Barcelona, FT.

Benfica were completely done over there.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Liverpool win 2-1, that's 7/7 in the CL

And ofc they're also clear at the top of the PL

Still, what a rubbish team, eh? :rolleyes:

You’re welcome to be a supporter of them, I doubt you’d be missed by other Arsenal fans :)

Bayer Leverkusen went through the Bundesliga season unbeaten and almost through their entire season unbeaten and yet aside from Florian Wirtz this isn’t a side of particularly good players let alone great.


Still though I’ll keep trying to see the clearly quality player Gakpo is just for you chief :haha:

[Mac76]

Still though I’ll keep trying to see the clearly quality player Gakpo is just for you chief :haha:

You mean the Gakpo who's got 6 goals and an assist in his last 12 PL appearances, yes keep thinking he's no good, that's fine :haha:

[HCZ_Reborn]

You mean the Gakpo who's got 6 goals and an assist in his last 12 PL appearances, yes keep thinking he's no good, that's fine :haha:

Martinelli and Gakpo have both scored six goals this season in the league, we are frequently critical of Martinelli and what he produces for Arsenal.


I don’t think Gakpo is “no good” I just unlike you don’t think he’s anything special. My argument from the outset and what continues to be the case is that Salah aside I don’t think Liverpool are any better than us in attack when you compare players like for like. We’ve been poor this season both in results and performances, which is partly down to injury and partly down to the fact that we play a system that feels to me to restrict our creativity.

My argument is you take Trossard, Martinelli, Havertz, Saka and even a fully fit Jesus and compare it with Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Diaz and Salah…Salah is the one that I think can be said is better than any of our attacking players. We are better than them in midfield, defence and I’d argue now that Raya is a better keeper than Allison. There’s no question now that they are having a very good season, I’m not so surprised with Europe as they have historically been the best English side in Europe. In the league ? Well they’ve done well but they were also doing well last season (they’d only lost one league game before they played us in February) the difference mainly is that City fell apart and we haven’t been able to sustain any kind of run to put pressure on them.

I don’t think they are a particularly great side no but they’ve been getting results something we haven’t

[Marc Overmars]

Wish we had signed Raphinha that summer we were linked with him.

[Letters]

Liverpool win 2-1, that's 7/7 in the CL

And ofc they're also clear at the top of the PL

Still, what a rubbish team, eh? :rolleyes:

They're just getting lucky ;)

[Mac76]

Martinelli and Gakpo have both scored six goals this season in the league, we are frequently critical of Martinelli and what he produces for Arsenal.

There's a difference between 'this season' and the last 12 games, which is just over half the season - clearly Slot has begun to bring the best out of him, plus giving him more playing time in recognition of what he brings (he was mainly on the bench for the first eight games or so and he's now starting every game)

I'd be very interested to see what Slot woud do with our team though even he could do nothing about the anti-Arsenal referee bias and injuries I suppose

[HCZ_Reborn]

There's a difference between 'this season' and the last 12 games, which is just over half the season - clearly Slot has begun to bring the best out of him, plus giving him more playing time in recognition of what he brings (he was mainly on the bench for the first eight games or so and he's now starting every game)

I'd be very interested to see what Slot woud do with our team though even he could do nothing about the anti-Arsenal referee bias and injuries I suppose

That’s sophistry I’m afraid, regardless of when the goals were scored they both have six league goals each this season


As for Slot, I suspect he’d do at Arsenal what he’s doing at Liverpool which is to stick rigidly to the formula that’s been left for him. He tried to inject his own style earlier in the season and Liverpool were playing languidly and it’s ultimately what caused them to lose at home to Forest. As I’ve said many times, a winner like Klopp must be sick as a dog that someone else is going to win the title with his team.

[Mac76]

That’s sophistry I’m afraid, regardless of when the goals were scored they both have six league goals each this season



No it isn't, it points to the fact that he has scored more goals than Martinelli over a shorter period of time - Martinelli's performance in the last 12 games is 4 - so Gakpo, now he is getting regular game time, is outperforming Martinelli

[HCZ_Reborn]

No it isn't, it points to the fact that he has scored more goals than Martinelli over a shorter period of time - Martinelli's performance in the last 12 games is 4 - so Gakpo, now he is getting regular game time, is outperforming Martinelli

He was getting more game time because of the injury to Jota, before that he was rightly seen as behind in the pecking order

Also because of said injury he was starting more games where as we’ve seen that Arteta has in the last few months rotated more so that sometimes Martinelli started and sometimes Trossard started

And when you look both in terms of starts and from the bench both have had about the same game time this season.


But far be it from me to pour cold water on another of your fantastical narratives. So yes he’s definitely out performed him this season :lol:

[Letters]

Tbh, their goals/minutes stats aren't that different. Gakpo edges it but there's not a huge gulf

https://footystats.org/players/netherlands/cody-gakpo
https://footystats.org/players/brazil/gabriel-martinelli

[HCZ_Reborn]

Tbh, their goals/minutes stats aren't that different. Gakpo edges it but there's not a huge gulf

https://footystats.org/players/netherlands/cody-gakpo
https://footystats.org/players/brazil/gabriel-martinelli

Exactly, and the point is that despite this we are meant to believe Martinelli is a flop yet conversely Gakpo has been this exceptional player that we should have signed. I think Martinelli has underperformed for a while (and additionally he has not been helped both with short term injuries and the way we play which is to channel all our attacks down the right). Gakpo I’ve used the word average, as to mean nothing special and I stand by that.

[Mac76]

He was getting more game time because of the injury to Jota, before that he was rightly seen as behind in the pecking order

Also because of said injury he was starting more games where as we’ve seen that Arteta has in the last few months rotated more so that sometimes Martinelli started and sometimes Trossard started

And when you look both in terms of starts and from the bench both have had about the same game time this season.


But far be it from me to pour cold water on another of your fantastical narratives. So yes he’s definitely out performed him this season :lol:

Nice attempt at diverting the argument, but it doesn't matter why he was or wasn't starting games, the fact that he now is and scoring regulalry undermines your saying he's not a good player, this attempt to make it about Gakpo v Martinelli is s red herring

[Mac76]

Exactly, and the point is that despite this we are meant to believe Martinelli is a flop yet conversely Gakpo has been this exceptional player that we should have signed. I think Martinelli has underperformed for a while (and additionally he has not been helped both with short term injuries and the way we play which is to channel all our attacks down the right). Gakpo I’ve used the word average, as to mean nothing special and I stand by that.

Your average winger, even just at PL-level average, doesn't score a goal every other game

Sorry

[HCZ_Reborn]

Nice attempt at diverting the argument, but it doesn't matter why he was or wasn't starting games, the fact that he now is and scoring regulalry undermines your saying he's not a good player, this attempt to make it about Gakpo v Martinelli is s red herring

No it’s not at all. The argument we had at the beginning of the season was a comparison between our attackers and theirs. And whatever way you try and frame it they have scored a similar amount of goals in a similar game time and our opinion of Martinelli is that he’s underperforming. Your only counter argument is six in 12 as if somehow Gakpo hadn’t had any game time in the games before the previous 12…he wasn’t always starting but he has featured either from the bench or from the start in every Liverpool game this season so it’s not unfair at all for me to say they’ve both scored six this season

I would say Gakpo is overrated but you’re probably the only person I know of who rates him that highly to begin with. He’s an ok player nothing more. Ramsey did a run of six goals in twelve games and he was a shit player.

[Mac76]

six in 12 as if somehow Gakpo hadn’t had any game time in the games before the previous 12…he wasn’t always starting but he has featured either from the bench or from the start in every Liverpool game this season so it’s not unfair at all for me to say they’ve both scored six this season


ofc it is - one can legitimately say Martinelli has scored 6 all season whereas since Gakpo became a regular starter he has averaegd a goal every other game - it's apples and oranges.



Ramsey did a run of six goals in twelve games and he was a shit player.

The first part of that clearly shows why the second part is nonsense

[HCZ_Reborn]

ofc it is - one can legitimately say Martinelli has scored 6 all season whereas since Gakpo became a regular starter he has averaegd a goal every other game - it's apples and oranges.




The first part of that clearly shows why the second part is nonsense


So we agree that you’re going to dismiss that they’ve scored the same amount of goals over the season having played the same amount of game time because it doesn’t suit your narrative? Cool.

Ramsey was shit, he had a terrible first touch, he’d pass to the opposition under no pressure, he was slow, technically limited and if not for his goal scoring run….he’d be about as well remembered at this club as Elneny or Denilson

[Mac76]

if not for his goal scoring run

:haha:

Please just think about what you've written - please... :lol:

[Mac76]

you’re going to dismiss that they’ve scored the same amount of goals over the season having played the same amount of game time

Yes, because one has scored sporadically over a longer period and the other has clearly been on an upward trajectory, scoring a goal every other game over the last 12 games :good:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Yes, because one has scored sporadically over a longer period and the other has clearly been on an upward trajectory, scoring a goal every other game over the last 12 games :good:

Fine but you also have to accept he did fuck all in the other games whether he started or didn’t

But presumably you’ll say that’s unfair


Your argument makes sense if you’re saying well he’s got momentum and he’s well placed to score more goals. What you want is to have your cake and eat it

[HCZ_Reborn]

:haha:

Please just think about what you've written - please... :lol:

You realise of course that given that Ramsey isn’t a striker that a midfielders contribution should be more than scoring goals in fact for a midfielder it’s a second or third order consideration depending on where they play. What I’m saying to you is that Ramsey did not offer any of the attributes that a midfielders gives the team, passing to create space, winning the ball, tracking back, going on runs.


It’s like you say Merino has had the same benefit to the team as Partey because they’ve both scored goals. I get you’re in I need to win mode, but surely this doesn’t need to be explained to you?

[Mac76]

You realise of course that given that Ramsey isn’t a striker that a midfielders contribution should be more than scoring goals in fact for a midfielder it’s a second or third order consideration depending on where they play. What I’m saying to you is that Ramsey did not offer any of the attributes that a midfielders gives the team, passing to create space, winning the ball, tracking back, going on runs.


It’s like you say Merino has had the same benefit to the team as Partey because they’ve both scored goals. I get you’re in I need to win mode, but surely this doesn’t need to be explained to you?

Sure Ramsey's role was to be a disruptor and get into goal-scoring positions, different midfielders have different games

That said in my Arsenal Mania days I was often in arguments when I said he just ran around a lot and there was a bit of truth to that - a bit like Zin but without the catastrophic errors

[Mac76]

Your argument makes sense

Good to see you got there in the end ;)

[HCZ_Reborn]

Sure Ramsey's role was to be a disruptor and get into goal-scoring positions, different midfielders have different games

That said in my Arsenal Mania days I was often in argumemts when I said he just ran around a lot - a bit like Zin but without the catastrophic errors

That’s because Wenger learned quickly enough not to put him in any defensive role. And he was a disruptor ok, except he disrupted our momentum by losing possession under no pressure or passing the ball out of play. The fact that it was Wilshere crippled with constant injury and not Ramsey only goes to prove that either there’s no God, or the omnipotent fucker hates Arsenal

[HCZ_Reborn]

Good to see you got there in the end ;)

I see you’ve shot your bolt, and have nothing left but silliness

In fairness you reached that point mid morning.

But I’m nothing if not charitable, if you want to say I think Gakpo has the momentum and will end up scoring more goals than Martinelli. I can accept that as a prediction.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

PSG 0-1 Man City

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-2 now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-2. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-2 :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Excellent. Leave it there and both the tosspots can sit it out.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

PSG 3-2 Man City, Holy shit!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

PSG 4-2 Man City! :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Feyenoord 3-0 Bayern Munich is mad too

[WMUG]

City :pal:

[Niall_Quinn]

PSG 4-2 Man City! :haha:

Damn! Wanted a draw. And also LOL! WTF? I don't think even we have ever choked a season so badly.

[Marc Overmars]

City are out if they don’t beat Brugge next week. :lol:

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

City are out if they don’t beat Brugge next week. :lol:

They'll definitely win that game.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

If they do sneak to 24th, would they play Villa as it stands?

There surely can't be country protection in this format.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

If they do sneak to 24th, would they play Villa as it stands?

There surely can't be country protection in this format.

No, I don't think there is country protection.

In fact, once the playoffs start I think you can still play the same team you played earlier in the league stage if you are unlucky.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Didn't think so as it'd be impossible to work it.

Hadn't accounted for Stuttgart playing PSG so they'd move up to 23rd at least anyway.

[Niall_Quinn]

Didn't think so as it'd be impossible to work it.

Hadn't accounted for Stuttgart playing PSG so they'd move up to 23rd at least anyway.

They already achieved close on the impossible once, by creating the worst format in the history of any competitive sport. Hopefully Trump will scrap this shit and bring back a proper European Cup.

[WMUG]

While he's at it, can he liquidate City and Chelsea whilst stripping them of all their titles?

[Letters]

While he's at it, can he liquidate City and Chelsea whilst stripping them of all their titles?

Orange Man Good!

[HCZ_Reborn]

Watched the highlights of Feyenoord (went to Rotterdam once, depressing place) vs Bayern game. That was three sucker punches

[HCZ_Reborn]

Watkins starting for Villa this evening, that’s a shame…that would have given our bid some trolling value if he was benched because “his head is not in the game” :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

This is going to be absolutely nuts.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dinamo Zagreb v AC Milan
Inter v Monaco
Barcelona v Atalanta
Bayer Leverkusen v Sparta Prague
Sturm Graz v RB Leipzig
Red Bull Salzburg v Atletico Madrid
Lille v Feyenoord
Young Boys v Crvenz Zvezda
Aston Villa v Celtic
Bayern Munich v Slovan Bratislava
Sporting v Bologna
Borussia Dortmund v Shakhtar Donetsk
PSV v Liverpool
Stuttgart v Paris Saint-Germain
Girona v Arsenal
Brest v Real Madrid
Juventus v Benfica
Man City v Club Brugge

:wacko:

[Niall_Quinn]

Dinamo Zagreb v AC Milan
Inter v Monaco
Barcelona v Atalanta
Bayer Leverkusen v Sparta Prague
Sturm Graz v RB Leipzig
Red Bull Salzburg v Atletico Madrid
Lille v Feyenoord
Young Boys v Crvenz Zvezda
Aston Villa v Celtic
Bayern Munich v Slovan Bratislava
Sporting v Bologna
Borussia Dortmund v Shakhtar Donetsk
PSV v Liverpool
Stuttgart v Paris Saint-Germain
Girona v Arsenal
Brest v Real Madrid
Juventus v Benfica
Man City v Club Brugge

:wacko:

Why are you confused? We're all Brugge fans tonight.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bruges is a shithole.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bruges is a shithole.

It's in Belgium, duh!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Villa 1-0 Celtic, Rogers!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Inter 1-0 Monaco, Martinez pelanty.
Lille 1-0 Feyenoord
Red Bull Salzburg 0-1 Atletico Madrid, Simeone.

Villa 2-0 Celtic, Rogers again.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bayern Munich 1-0 Slovan Bratislava, Muller.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Stuttgart 0-1 PSG, Barcola.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Red Bull Salzburg 0-2 Atletico Madrid, Griezmann.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lille 1-1 Feyenood, Trauner.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Inter 2-0 Monaco, Martinez again.
Juventus 0-1 Benfica, Pavlidis.
Borussia Dortmund 1-0 Shakhtar Donetsk, Guirassy.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Stuttgart 0-2 PSG, Dembele
Dinamo Zagreb 1-0 Milan, Baturina.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sporting 0-1 Bologna, Pobega.