Europa League 24/25

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd 1-1 Twente last night. :lol:

Spuds went down to 10 men after 8 minutes against Carrier Bag, still winning 1-0.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 HT somehow.

Come on Carrier Bag you useless fucks - had so much glorious chances.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-0 Sarr

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-0 FT. :sick:

[Mac76]

3-0 FT. :sick:

There's going to be a whole DVD box set on that one

[dazthegooner]

There's going to be a whole DVD box set on that one

Spuds due to the fact they haven't won anything in years stlll use the VHS format :good:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

There's going to be a whole DVD box set on that one

Tweeted about this game from their Twitter account praising themselves for not changing their style going down to 10 men. :lol:

Twats.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Porto hauled United back from 2-0 to 2-2

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I don't know how this goes.

Normally I would think Ten Hag pulls something out to save his job but as soon as Man Utd face adversity in a game they usually fold.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Porto 3-2 Man Utd!

:haha:

[Letters]

Proper banter club :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fabio Vieira is on. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fernandes sent off again!

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-3 Maguire!

Ten Hag clings on again. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-3 FT.

[Marc Overmars]

More lives than a cat.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fenerbahce 1-1 Man Utd currently

Mourinho sent off. :lol:

[Mac76]

AZ lose to Spuds, obvs a bumch of tossers

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Galatasaray 3-2 Spuds, FT. :lol:

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

The chavs just beat a team 8-0 with their second team.

I reckon Arteta would have insisted on playing out first team and we'd have struggled to put 3 past them before closing shop.:lol:

[Mac76]

The chavs just beat a team 8-0 with their second team.

I reckon Arteta would have insisted on playing out first team and we'd have struggled to put 3 past them before closing shop.:lol:

Without a doubt

[Mac76]

Incidentally, Chelsea beat Noah with a flood of goals :rimshot:

[dazthegooner]

Noah a team from the great footballing nation of Arminia...

[HCZ_Reborn]

Incidentally, Chelsea beat Noah with a flood of goals :rimshot:

Felix and Nkunku got braces, so they went in two by two

[Mac76]

Felix and Nkunku got braces, so they went in two by two

:good:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd 1-2 Bodo/Glimt :lol:

Spuds 1-1 Roma

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-1 Spuds lead now.

2-2 Man Utd equalise.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Spuds 2-2 Roma, Hummels! :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd won in the end.

[dazthegooner]

Man Utd won in the end.

Open top to bus through Essex then?

[HCZ_Reborn]

Open top to bus through Essex then?

Surrey I think you mean :sulk:

[dazthegooner]

And after the victory over the Norwegiean giants of Bodo/Glmt Ruben Amorim is the new messiah and are now favourites to win the premiership*

*source Skysports* :sarcy:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How the hell isn't 2-1 to Rangers against the Spuds.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And now he scores an offside one.

[Letters]

Finished 1-1.
Spurs :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Real Sociedad 1-1 Man Utd, FT.
AZ 1-0 Spuds, FT. :haha:
Fenerbahce 1-3 Rangers, FT! Mourinho. :haha:

Glenn Hoddle: That's a better result for Tottenham than AZ. :wacko:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd 1-1 Real Sociedad, Oyarzabal pel and then Fernandes pel

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Spuds 1-0 AZ, Odobert.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Wow, seems the Chavs really want to beat us on Sunday, seeing as Maresca rested his whole first team despite having just a goal advantage over Copenhagen.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd 2-1 Real Sociedad, Fernandes with another pelanty.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wow, seems the Chavs really want to beat us on Sunday, seeing as Maresca rested his whole first team despite having just a goal advantage over Copenhagen.

He has done that all season. And to be honest unless they face Fiorentina they can probably get away with it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Red card for Real Sociedad

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Spuds 2-1 AZ. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rangers 0-2 Fenerbahce, that levels the tie there.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-1 Spuds lead Odobert with his second.

[Mac76]

Ok Spuds have had their fun, time for them to be knocked out now ;)

[Marc Overmars]

I am very concerned that either United or Spurs will win this.

[Letters]

I am very concerned that either United or Spurs will win this.

Lads, it's Tottenham.

But I'll feel happier when they're both out, obviously.

[Mac76]

Lads, it's Tottenham.

But I'll feel happier when they're both out, obviously.

never be complacent

I'll take a Utd win as it will continue to cover up the long-term rot

but no way spuds :sulk:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Seems to me the most likely English team to win a European trophy this season is Chelsea

I’d rather they didn’t, but I simply cannot imagine myself getting upset about it despite how much I despise that club

Spurs? I guess if West Ham can win the conference league they can win the Europa league (although I don’t really see it, they could get past Frankfurt but I don’t think they will). But ultimately it’s not something I’d spend much of my time thinking about.

Was glad to see Liverpool go out of the champions league, and hopefully Newcastle can beat them at the weekend. Sick of them being lauded like they were anything special

[HCZ_Reborn]

Frankfurt lead Spurs - Ekitike

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 not long after that

Bergvall and I think Bentancur just hit the post.

Lyon 1-1 Man Utd

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lyon 1-2 Man Utd, Zirkzee

[Marc Overmars]

Ugh, rancid season again and I bet they still fluke another trophy.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-2. :haha:

Onana. :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

2-2

Onana fuck up again. What a way to prove to Matic right. :haha:

[Letters]

2-2

Onana fuck up again. What a way to prove to Matic right. :haha:

He's a bloody awful 'keeper. I haven't seen this one but he chucks them in all the time.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd 1-0 Lyon currently.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty to Spuds.

Maddison was absolutely clattered.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 Spuds, Solanke.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-0 Man Utd, Dalot.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd 2-1 Lyon now

[Marc Overmars]

Spurs would play Bodo in the semis as it stands. Surely they will reach the final. :sick:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd 2-2 Lyon. :lol:

[Letters]

Spurs would play Bodo in the semis as it stands. Surely they will reach the final. :sick:

:sick:

[Marc Overmars]

Come on Athletic Club, you’re our only hope.

[HCZ_Reborn]

:sick:

Lazio are level on aggregate now

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Spuds are through but Lazio equalised.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-3 Lyon!

:haha:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Lazio 3-0 up on the night and 3-2 up on Agg

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty to Lyon!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-4 LACAZETTE!!!

:haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Wow, what a bottle job. Against 10 men too.

United are so bad.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-4 Fernandes pelanty.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

4-4 Mainoo!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

5-4 Maguire! WTF.

[Marc Overmars]

5-4 Maguire

Bloody hell :lol:

[Letters]

Sigh. What a shit night of results

[Marc Overmars]

Well with a sloth like Lacazette as their captain I’m not surprised Lyon fucked it up.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd through. :wacko:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Horrendous pels from Lazio.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bodo lad skies it!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bodo are through. :wacko:

[Marc Overmars]

FFS.

Spurs v United final incoming.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

FFS.

Spurs v United final incoming.

That would mean 6 teams from England in the CL next year.... mannn thats on overkill that would make the competition a bit boring for us next season.

Though it also means the EPL might have another season like this, as everyone would be bothered with the CL thus dropping points

[Marc Overmars]

6 teams would be crazy. To be honest it looks like most of the top half of the league can qualify for Europe in some form. :wacko:

[Letters]

:sick:

[WMUG]

Inverse of 2019 incoming :lol:

[Mac76]

Though it also means the EPL might have another season like this, as everyone would be bothered with the CL thus dropping points

This is a really good point and should hopefully help us

[HCZ_Reborn]

Looking like a spurs/united final very much on the cards in Europa league

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Looking like a spurs/united final very much on the cards in Europa league

So if we don't secure the CL with our league position, it's now probable the Spuds win this competition and we're going to have to watch them in the CL despite finishing 10 places or so ahead of them!

You couldn't make this shit up.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

BTW, what happens if we don't finish in the top 5 and win the CL.

I know our place would be guaranteed, but who bounces, the 5th place or the UEFA cup winner?

[Marc Overmars]

Jesus, needing to hope United win a final. :sick:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Not that the away goal rule is in effect, but Bodo get a goal back and it’s now 3-1

[Mac76]

Jesus, needing to hope United win a final. :sick:

I don't think Spuds are nailed on winners with an away game to go, it's not over yet

[Letters]

Looking like a spurs/united final very much on the cards in Europa league
Sigh.
Come on, Utd, I suppose :sick:

[HCZ_Reborn]

3-1 means Bodo have something to play for. Beat Lazio 2-0 in Norway, and that would take things to Pels

[Letters]

3-1 means Bodo have something to play for. Beat Lazio 2-0 in Norway, and that would take things to Pels

Admire your clinging to hope but it’s going to be a Spurs vs Utd final.
It says something about the quality in this competition that two sides who in a normal season would be battling relegation are likely to be in the finals :sick:

[Mac76]

So if we don't secure the CL with our league position, it's now probable the Spuds win this competition and we're going to have to watch them in the CL despite finishing 10 places or so ahead of them!

You couldn't make this shit up.

While I've been more cautious than most i think top five is fairly safe plus i don't make spuds favourites v Man Ure tbh

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Europa League 2nd legs on now for the semi finals

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 Athletic Club. :popcorn:

[Letters]

Ugh :sick:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-2 Spuds.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd equalise.

Just about the worst outcome in football history this.

[Marc Overmars]

Come on United.

You cannot possibly lose a final to bloody Spurs.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Man Utd equalise.

Just about the worst outcome in football history this.

:haha:

[Letters]

Obviously I'm not bitter but holy shit, Spurs and Utd getting to the final after being utterly shite all season really does underline how god-awful the quality has been in this competition. Can you imagine either of these in the CL?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Obviously I'm not bitter but holy shit, Spurs and Utd getting to the final after being utterly shite all season really does underline how god-awful the quality has been in this competition. Can you imagine either of these in the CL?

Or it shows how strong the Premier League has been this year##

[Letters]

Or it shows how strong the Premier League has been this year##

Worst.
Champions.
Ever.
:sulk:

[Niall_Quinn]

Or it shows how strong the Premier League has been this year##

Not even funny. A brisk jog to the title? Not criticising your lot for hauling in the points - just saying, didn't need to break a sweat. If you are going to win a title with your feet up, this is the year for it. Those two shitkickers, Utd and the spuds, in a B-list final? In some ways it's fitting. Not good enough to mix it with the likes of Young Boys and Slovan Bratislava. On the other hand, just how shallow is the European talent pool right now? Of course you'll get shit like this when you allow my Sunday league pub round-ups into the CL. It's all getting very ridiculous. And isn't there an even lower league/ cup thingy for the shittiest of the shittiest? Can't even recall what that revenue mop is called.

[Letters]

Ugh

:sick:


Giant meteor :pray:

[Marc Overmars]

Come on United.

:sick:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Come on Tottenham.

Sorry. No chance they're winning anyway.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Wasn’t till yesterday that I even knew the final was tonight.

Something about Spurs getting to finals that brings me out all nonchalant

It’s a rare occurrence, there’s nothing to suggest it will get any less rare. And they tend to lose most of the finals they appear in

They could win tonight of course. They’ve bested an appalling United three times out of three this season. And really this is a game that could go either way

But if I was going to put money on it, it would be on United who have European pedigree of a more recent variety. I know there’s all this year of the underdog bollocks…but there’s no underdog in this final, they are equally terrible

[HCZ_Reborn]

Come on Tottenham.

Sorry. No chance they're winning anyway.

This from your perspective must be like a final of Everton vs Chelsea from ours.

[Letters]

Come on Tottenham.

Sorry. No chance they're winning anyway.

That’s a paddling :threaten:

[Letters]

Utd probably favourites because…history.
But surely Spurs dry period can’t last forever and as crap as they’ve both been all season Spurs have scored a lot more goals.

:sick:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tottenham Hotspur: Vicario; Porro, Romero, van de Ven, Udogie; Bentancur, Bissouma, Sarr; Johnson, Solanke, Richarlison
Subs: Austin, Whiteman, Spence, Davies, Danso, Gray, Ajayi, Moore, Odobert, Tel, Son, Scarlett

Manchester United: Onana; Yoro, Maguire, Shaw; Mazraoui, Casemiro, Fernandes, Dorgu; Diallo, Mount, Hojlund
Subs: Bayindir, Amass, Dalot, Evans, Heaven, Lindelof, Collyer, Eriksen, Mainoo, Ugarte, Garnacho, Zirkzee.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

This from your perspective must be like a final of Everton vs Chelsea from ours.

Ish. In that situation I'd always support Everton tbf

[HCZ_Reborn]

Son only on the bench, I don’t pay much attention to Spurs. Is he not fully fit?

They’ve no real squad depth but have to say, if Spurs had that team fit all season they’d probably be battling for the top six/seven European positions not 17th.

Maddison will be big miss for them tonight, and so will Kulusevski

United? Where are the fucking goals coming from. They’ve got players who you think once in a blue moon could turn it on and do something wonderful (Garnacho and Diallo are capable of it, but just lack consistency).

[HCZ_Reborn]

Ish. In that situation I'd always support Everton tbf

Well I would as well, but that’s because I fucking hate Chelsea

My idea of a nightmare would be them and Spurs getting to a final. It’s cancer or full blown AIDS

[Letters]

Unfortunately I have just come to the depressing conclusion that Spurs are actually the better side. They’ve won every game they’ve played against them this season.
But, like life, Utd, uh, find a way.

Ugh :sick:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Unfortunately I have just come to the depressing conclusion that Spurs are actually the better side. They’ve won every game they’ve played against them this season.
But, like life, Utd, uh, find a way.

Ugh :sick:

Player for player they are the better side for sure, even without Kulusevski and Maddison

United spent a load of money on kids who can’t score goals at the top levels at the game and will in five years probably be playing for some mid table team on the continent.

Of course having the better players means fuck all, as we’ve discovered a few times (Birmingham city LC final :sick: )

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Well I would as well, but that’s because I fucking hate Chelsea

My idea of a nightmare would be them and Spurs getting to a final. It’s cancer or full blown AIDS

Well quite. Nothing good whatsoever to say about Chelsea or their fans.


I can't see anything past a United victory tonight. I think it will be quite straight forward as well. 3-1. The 1 being a late consolation.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-2 Tottenham I think.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam oooooooooooooooooooooooon youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Spursssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss



Christ :lol:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh whennnnnnnnnnnnn theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Spursssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss


I'll stop now.

I actually don't think there's a worse chant in football than that.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam oooooooooooooooooooooooon youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Spursssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss



Christ :lol:


https://youtu.be/XGFknyGKtao?si=EHlvUTVzr1tqHkjP


Just reminded of this

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They have a video of the TH stadium watchalong on YT, on ESPN that is.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Richarlison. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLAvArH0_XY

:lol:

But only worth it if it's all tears.

[HCZ_Reborn]

They have a video of the TH stadium watchalong on YT, on ESPN that is.

60,000 screaming and gesticulating at a big tv screen

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Diallo across goal, oof.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

20 minutes in already :blink:

Not much has happened and yet that has disappeared.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Fucking hell these lot are fucking shite.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

1-0 SPurs!

Johnson

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 Johnson. :sick:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shaw OG?

Embarrassing for Man Utd.

[Marc Overmars]

A goal befitting of such an awful game thus far.

[HCZ_Reborn]

It has to be said, anyone complaining about our football should really watch this game and get instruction that it can be played far worse.

1-0 to Spurs anyway, not ideal

[Marc Overmars]

Come on United FFS.

They look so shit. Spurs should win comfortably really.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Be hilarious if United did a Bayern 1999 Job on them

[Marc Overmars]

Be hilarious if United did a Bayern 1999 Job on them

Currently in a pub full of Spurs fans. I sincerely hope this happens just to watch the agony.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Currently in a pub full of Spurs fans. I sincerely hope this happens just to watch the agony.

Why would you do that to yourself?

Be in a pub full of spurs fans

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Be hilarious if United did a Bayern 1999 Job on them

As a naive 7 year old, I jumped around the room celebrating that night :sick:

[Marc Overmars]

Why would you do that to yourself?

Be in a pub full of spurs fans

2 of my good mates are Spurs and United fans, so I had to be here with them for the scenes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

This is for the right to be the 37th best team in Europe.

It's a match that you'd expect.

[HCZ_Reborn]

As a naive 7 year old, I jumped around the room celebrating that night :sick:

I had a big hate boner for United at the time, the Ryan Giggs goal in the fa cup semis, pipping us to the league

If Bayern had held on, I dare say I might have invested in a Bayern shirt with Basler’s name on the back

[HCZ_Reborn]

2 of my good mates are Spurs and United fans, so I had to be here with them for the scenes.

That’s interesting, so they came out together, certain in the knowledge that one of them would be coming home depressed

Not sure I could watch a game with a fan of another team that my team is playing against

The nearest I’ve come is watching England vs India at the cricket sat with a few of the India fans at the Oval, but it was a chilled atmosphere so even when Zaheer Kahn ripped through our middle order, it didn’t dampen the spirit much. Plus they were all really nice guys

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That touch from Solanke. :haha:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Can't see Spurs keeping a clean sheet. I mean, lads....

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Richarlison is fucked.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

VDV clearance off the line.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Garnacho and Zirkzee on for Mount and Hojlund

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fernandes. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good shot from Garnacho.

[Niall_Quinn]

So these two actually turned up? I would have thought they'd be too embarrassed to show their faces.

Is this the worst "final" in the history of European football? Two relegation candidates battling it out having defeated what must have been a pile of absolute shite? We've hit the bottom now. I wonder how UEFA will find a way to keep digging.

[HCZ_Reborn]

So these two actually turned up? I would have thought they'd be too embarrassed to show their faces.

Is this the worst "final" in the history of European football? Two relegation candidates battling it out having defeated what must have been a pile of absolute shite? We've hit the bottom now. I wonder how UEFA will find a way to keep digging.

There might have been worse ones, I don’t know…frankly I don’t want to know

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

There might have been worse ones, I don’t know…frankly I don’t want to know

2003 Champions League final?

That was truly awful.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Have they given the goal to Johnson to make this final seem less shit

Lipstick on a pig

[Niall_Quinn]

2003 Champions League final?

That was truly awful.

Maybe a bad match - but it can't have been competed by two teams as bad as these?

[Niall_Quinn]

Have they given the goal to Johnson to make this final seem less shit

Lipstick on a pig

Don't even know who Johnson is - member of the crowd? Obviously tis isn't a serious final.

Won't stop the Spuds bakery firing up the overn of course.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

7 added minutes.

[Niall_Quinn]

Fuck, it's the Spuds winning? Assumed it was Utd! Oh no. This is going to be insufferable! Especially for a fanbase that has zero shame.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Spuds win something. :lol:

Football, you're drunk.

[KSE Comedy Club]

:sick: :ilt:

[Marc Overmars]

Can’t believe how shit United were, it was so easy for Spurs.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Oh well

On the plus side, it keeps Crocodile Greeky at the club for another season

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Not sure what was more shocking. The match itself, or the fact that Manchester fucking United rolled over in a European final for Tottenham Hotspur. Fucking Tottenham.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Can’t believe how shit United were, it was so easy for Spurs.

Oh I could believe it

Player wise, Spurs are a better side than United. It’s a low bar but there it is

[HCZ_Reborn]

Not sure what was more shocking. The match itself, or the fact that Manchester fucking United rolled over in a European final for Tottenham Hotspur. Fucking Tottenham.

Rolled over implies they were capable of better

[Niall_Quinn]

HOW can that be acceptable for Utd? Surely every head must roll now? How many billions? How much support? How many sponsorship deals? Yet they can't even grab a Cornflakes Cup when they are rich enough to buy the whole shelf?

[HCZ_Reborn]

HOW can that be acceptable for Utd? Surely every head must roll now? How many billions? How much support? How many sponsorship deals? Yet they can't even grab a Cornflakes Cup when they are rich enough to buy the whole shelf?

They can’t buy fuck all

They’ve still got a bigger wage bill than us I think

FSR means that they had to take a chance on big fees yet smaller wages for “promising” youngsters from the continent like Hojlund and Zirkzee who unfortunately for them are just not good enough at this level

I have no doubt that they tried, they are just legitimately shit. I also think the coach is hugely overrated…

[Letters]

Spuds win something. :lol:

Football, you're drunk.

:lol:

Moving to Australia for a few years till this all blows over.

:ilt:

[Niall_Quinn]

They can’t buy fuck all

They’ve still got a bigger wage bill than us I think

FSR means that they had to take a chance on big fees yet smaller wages for “promising” youngsters from the continent like Hojlund and Zirkzee who unfortunately for them are just not good enough at this level

I have no doubt that they tried, they are just legitimately shit. I also think the coach is hugely overrated…

My point is, how and why and who - steered them into this unbelievable mess?

I mean I'm delighted and all.

But if I was a Utd fan (assuming I hadn't already shot myself) I'd be getting the chopping block ready.

We think we have problems at Arsenal?

[HCZ_Reborn]

My point is, how and why and who - steered them into this unbelievable mess?

I mean I'm delighted and all.

But if I was a Utd fan (assuming I hadn't already shot myself) I'd be getting the chopping block ready.

We think we have problems at Arsenal?

For once I’m in complete agreement with you. I think United is a textbook example of structural mismanagement from head to toe.

[Letters]

Rolled over implies they were capable of better

Yeah. I had a feeling all week Utd would win because, y'know, Spursy.
But then just before kick off I realised just how fucking awful Utd are and realised that really Spurs should win.
Didn't watch because why put yourself through that? But it was two awful sides, one just a bit less awful than the other.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Yeah. I had a feeling all week Utd would win because, y'know, Spursy.
But then just before kick off I realised just how fucking awful Utd are and realised that really Spurs should win.
Didn't watch because why put yourself through that? But it was two awful sides, one just a bit less awful than the other.

I just didn’t care full stop

I won’t begrudge the Spurs fans that I know personally (especially as one of them is a work colleague and a bit of a Milf…which I feel a bit bad even for saying as she’s a lovely person) having their celebration, even if the idea of them winning anything is a bit distasteful to me….as long as it’s nothing I consider consequential or at our expense I can swallow it

[McNamara That Ghost...]

:lol:

Moving to Australia for a few years till this all blows over.

:ilt:

Seems like a bad move, as they'll cover Postecoglu winning it.

[Letters]

I do care. But it's not a 2019 situation, that would have been the worst thing ever.
This...well, I think I can file this under "tin pot trophy" and use that as a coping mechanism.

[Letters]

Seems like a bad move, as they'll cover Postecoglu winning it.

Yes...a Spurs supporting mate also pointed out the schoolboy error I made there.1

[Marc Overmars]

All the talk about United’s big game mentality and experience was shown up to be bollocks as I suspected it would. They are completely in the mud, a truly dreadful club from top to bottom.

As for Spurs, they’re not much better but you felt they were potentially sharper at the top end of the pitch.

Absolutely awful game that looked every bit contested by the 2 worst teams from our league that weren’t relegated.

[HCZ_Reborn]

All the talk about United’s big game mentality and experience was shown up to be bollocks as I suspected it would. They are completely in the mud, a truly dreadful club from top to bottom.

As for Spurs, they’re not much better but you felt they were potentially sharper at the top end of the pitch.

Absolutely awful game that looked every bit contested by the 2 worst teams from our league that weren’t relegated.

Pretty fair summation really

[Mac76]

I obviously didn't watch but a shame Man Ure let us down, I guess it had to happen sometime, as I said before there's no disguising spuds've been shite this season, everyone knows it, pub cup or not

[Letters]

Actually laughing at some of my Facebook feed. Some of my Spurs supporting friends hilariously overexcited. One put a picture from last night with the caption “CHAMPIONS”

Champions :haha:

You won the Carabao Cup of Europe, you didn’t sweep aside the cream of Europe or win the title. Embarrassing

[HCZ_Reborn]

Seeing lots of “I can’t believe how bad United are/were” posts on social media

I mean really?

At what point has it not been incredibly obvious how bad they are?

[Letters]

I must admit I keep on expecting them not to be shit.
But they keep being shit.
And it does keep slightly surprising me.

[HCZ_Reborn]

https://youtu.be/GWLLMrQLEXE?si=rReYgOAGkhsWK3Ga

:lol: long way away from those days

[Marc Overmars]

It is pretty much rock bottom for them. The only thing worse is relegation and that’s unlikely to happen given the gap with The Championship. How a club of this size has been mismanaged to this depth is quite something.

[HCZ_Reborn]

It is pretty much rock bottom for them. The only thing worse is relegation and that’s unlikely to happen given the gap with The Championship. How a club of this size has been mismanaged to this depth is quite something.

It really needs to have Boeing as its shirt sponsor for next season.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Whilst I say I was unbothered by the result of this match (and I am). What I don’t get is the very online mentality of younger fans who wanted Spurs to win because there’s a bigger feud with United fans

Make that make sense

Apparently it’s also about international fans, in Nigeria for example there’s tribal (in the truest sense of the word) antagonism between the United fans and Arsenal fans.

Don’t have any issue with people from any part of the world supporting Arsenal (you tuber called Chef Reactions is an Arsenal fan and I found that out after watching his amusing content) but has to be said, you kind of miss the point of doing so if you genuinely think you’re meant to dislike Man United more than Spurs.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I must admit I keep on expecting them not to be shit.
But they keep being shit.
And it does keep slightly surprising me.

I think I'm just hard wired to assume they will eventually come good, or at least be less shit. Doesn't seem to be happening though.

[Marc Overmars]

Whilst I say I was unbothered by the result of this match (and I am). What I don’t get is the very online mentality of younger fans who wanted Spurs to win because there’s a bigger feud with United fans

Make that make sense

Apparently it’s also about international fans, in Nigeria for example there’s tribal (in the truest sense of the word) antagonism between the United fans and Arsenal fans.

Don’t have any issue with people from any part of the world supporting Arsenal (you tuber called Chef Reactions is an Arsenal fan and I found that out after watching his amusing content) but has to be said, you kind of miss the point of doing so if you genuinely think you’re meant to dislike Man United more than Spurs.

I don’t consider United rival. Historically I guess they are but we haven’t been on the same trajectories for around 20 years. If any Arsenal fan preferred a Spurs win last night then that is really bizarre. Then again most of these online warriors from other parts of the world wouldn’t necessarily “get” football from our perspective.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I don’t consider United rival. Historically I guess they are but we haven’t been on the same trajectories for around 20 years. If any Arsenal fan preferred a Spurs win last night then that is really bizarre. Then again most of these online warriors from other parts of the world wouldn’t necessarily “get” football from our perspective.

Yep

There is a big difference between being title rivals (which United were once but they sure as fuck aren’t currently) and rivals in perpetuity

A lot of the international fan base has the most online engagement. Don’t get me wrong, I find all the rainbow laces stuff pandering and patronising, it’s also incredibly cynical because it’s all about chasing the pink pound. But you know people from Africa or the subcontinent are out in force when you get :sick: in reaction, and all this talk about anal sex (which makes me wonder if NQ is from Nigeria or Uganda giving he seems to share their morbid fascination with it).

But considering In parts of Africa, witch doctors tell men to cure their AIDS by raping babies…I don’t think they’ve got any standing to accuse us of degeneracy

[Letters]

The international fanbase aren't going to "get" the local rivalry. Why would they?
They live in their online bubble. That's not a criticism, just a fact.

[HCZ_Reborn]

The international fanbase aren't going to "get" the local rivalry. Why would they?
They live in their online bubble. That's not a criticism, just a fact.

Feels to me a bit daft though

It’s like if I decided to start supporting Borussia Dortmund (they are my favourite German club but I can’t go as far as to say I support them) yet make no effort to appreciate the mutual loathing between them and Schalke.

I hate to sound all Mac76 who seems to me to think all Arsenal fans should look upon Spurs the way Inigo Montoya looks upon Count Rugen. But there’s a point that if you can’t at least understand the local history and sporting animosity that you aren’t truly a fan.

[Letters]

I think you can understand it from anywhere but it is different when you live in North London and are immersed in it.
For example, in '91 after the FA Cup Semi-Final - it was the first really big game I'd been to - I remember on the Monday morning walking in to the 6th form common room and literally a cheer going up from the Spurs fans. I still wake up screaming. No fan in Nigeria or Hong Kong or wherever around the world is having that experience. They're not going on trains full of Spurs fans going to or from the game. It has to be a different experience.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I think you can understand it from anywhere but it is different when you live in North London and are immersed in it.
For example, in '91 after the FA Cup Semi-Final - it was the first really big game I'd been to - I remember on the Monday morning walking in to the 6th form common room and literally a cheer going up from the Spurs fans. I still wake up screaming. No fan in Nigeria or Hong Kong or wherever around the world is having that experience. They're not going on trains full of Spurs fans going to or from the game. It has to be a different experience.

I’m not sure experiences need to be that raw or visceral to be understood

I’ve known Spurs fans my whole life, it seems to me they have warped priorities. Take for instance us winning the league at WHL, they were celebrating because they’d stopped us from winning outright (now I was pretty pissed off about that at the time, but if Spurs won the league at the Emirates with a draw I’d be mortified).

I almost certainly wouldn’t watch a north london Derby with any of them, but England games? All the time.

I haven’t experienced the thuggery that some here who are old enough may have experienced, and in the interminable debate about whether football has improved or regressed. I think we can all (hopefully) agree that those days largely being long gone is a sign of progress.



I don’t think you really need the ingrained memories of either savagery or heart rending humiliation to get it. You just need to know that both clubs are from North London, and in terms of success it’s a bit of a one sided rivalry it’s a rivalry all the same. And that because of this, wanting them to win even a second tier European trophy against a has been Manchester United is anathema to our traditions

[Letters]

IYou just need to know that both clubs are from North London, and in terms of success it’s a bit of a one sided rivalry it’s a rivalry all the same. And that because of this,
wanting them to win even a second tier European trophy against a has been Manchester United is anathema to our traditions
But Man Utd are a much bigger club globally.
If you're in bongo bongo land your day to day experience may well be ManUtd fans being the utter cocks and you know they'll be peacocking around for ages if they are rubbish all season and then blunder their way to a trophy. You might not even know many Spurs fans.
In that context I guess I get it.

[HCZ_Reborn]

But Man Utd are a much bigger club globally.
If you're in bongo bongo land your day to day experience may well be ManUtd fans being the utter cocks and you know they'll be peacocking around for ages if they are rubbish all season and then blunder their way to a trophy. You might not even know many Spurs fans.
In that context I guess I get it.

Maybe but it still means you’re not really a proper Arsenal fan

It’s like how in the Mafia you get made men and you get associates, most of whom would never get their button because they aren’t pure Italian or something.

They are associate fans

[Letters]

They are associate fans
:lol: Yes. that's probably fair.
It has to be a different experience between following a club from afar and growing up in the local area.
I guess my experience of it all is different now to when I used to have a season ticket.
I don't think any of this matters that much though.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Well I’m assuming this doubles up for the conference league

Anyway Real Betis 1-0 up against Chelsea in the final

[HCZ_Reborn]

They turned it around

Bollocks

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-3 now.

Football. :rose:

[Letters]

Champions of Europe :blah:

It’s a nothing competition. Why does it even exist?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-4 Chelsea, Caicedo.

[Marc Overmars]

Been pretty much nailed on from day one that Chelsea would win this. The gulf in quality from the rest of competition is embarrassing.

[Marc Overmars]

It is quite a sickening fact that Chelsea are the only club to have won every UEFA trophy that’s ever existed.

[Letters]

It is quite a sickening fact that Chelsea are the only club to have won every UEFA trophy that’s ever existed.

Ugh. Thanks for planting that fact in my head.

The PL is the only league with any depth. The fact that the Europa final was contested between two of the worst sides to stay up tells you something about the quality of the other teams. And the Conference League must be another level down from that. So no surprise Chelsea have won it and that English teams could start dominating these lower competitions. At least Chelsea got CL football through merit in terms of league position and didn't just blunder their way into it with a Cup win.

[Niall_Quinn]

Fuck - I'm pretty sure I won this trophy a couple of years back. Was super pissed at the time and my memory is foggy. But I remember seeing that pot lying around somewhere in the house. Sort of. Either that or it was the McDonald's customer of the month - one of them. Kind of hope it was the latter because I probably got a free burger, which is kind of prestigious when you think about it.