View Full Version : Arsenal vs Manchester United 4.12.2024 KO 20:15 GMT
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 08:57 AM
Since Wenger left us, only Liverpool have more premier league points against Man United than we do.
We’ve won 7 out of the last 12 games. 5 at home, 2 at Old Trafford
Of course that’s not to say tonight will be an easy three points, United have actually conceded fewer goals than us this season. Their main issue has been their lack of goals.
Rashford likes scoring against us, so we need to make sure he gets as little space as possible as along with Fernandes he will be their main danger man
I think we also need to be patient, not panic if we are not winning at half time. It’s a must win of course but we’ve seen what happens when we overcommit and give teams space on the counter
Marc Overmars
04-12-2024, 09:07 AM
Always a fixture with plenty of drama but one we tend to come out on top in.
I hope I’m laughably wrong but I have a feeling we could suffer with a bit of a new manager bounce tonight.
2-2.
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:25 AM
I'm worried about the new manager bounce too, but we are in good form so....I hope we win, tbh.
Let's say 2-1 to Arsenal. We cannot afford to slip on this banana skin.
I'm worried about the new manager bounce too, but we are in good form so....I hope we win, tbh.
Let's say 2-1 to Arsenal. We cannot afford to slip on this banana skin.
I recknon it'll be 2-1 also...
Mac76
04-12-2024, 10:16 AM
0-3 Rashford hatter
Mac76
04-12-2024, 10:17 AM
I'm worried about the new manager bounce too, but we are in good form so....I hope we win, tbh.
Let's say 2-1 to Arsenal. We cannot afford to slip on this banana skin.
notwithstanding my other reply I think this is about right, they will put up a fight but we really ought to be able to deal with them if we play like we have recently
Will be at the game and looking forward to it, despite the ridiculously late KO
21_GOONER_SALUTE
04-12-2024, 10:33 AM
This is the last of the traditional top 6 teams we will be playing this half of the season. We've only beaten Spurs away and drawn the rest from winning positions.
On paper, this is the weakest of the lot and we are playing at home. Our usual, try to take the lead and defend it approach is what I expect the manager to try again. It has not succeeded 3 out of 4 times so I'd expect it to fail especially against a Man U whose DNA of late goals is still their somewhere.
We need to batter them. Do exactly what Liverpool did to Man City. Go after them from the get go till the final whistle. I don't expect Arteta to do it, but that's the only way I see us taking 3 points today, as I fully expect the "establishment" to be behind Liverpool now, which will obviously aid another "establishment" team, Man U for today.
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 10:37 AM
notwithstanding my other reply I think this is about right, they will put up a fight but we really ought to be able to deal with them if we play like we have recently
Will be at the game and looking forward to it, despite the ridiculously late KO
Yeah I don’t see the need for the kick off time, from what I can see we are the only London team playing in the capital. And United fans have got to make the long trip back to Surrey
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 06:50 PM
Gabriel and Calafiori likely to be out tonight
dazthegooner
04-12-2024, 07:02 PM
Team to play Man Utd: Raya, Timber, Saliba, Kiwior, Zinchenko, Partey, Rice, Odegaard, Martinelli, Saka, Havertz.
Subs: Neto, Tierney, Heaven, Jorginho, Merino, Nwaneri, Trossard, Sterling, Jesus.
Mac76
04-12-2024, 07:19 PM
Zin and Kiwior on our left is a worry to say the least
That said Rashford isn't starting which, given his record at the Emirates, is bizarre
dazthegooner
04-12-2024, 07:23 PM
Well we have Tierney on the bench if he's got a new pair of crutches he might get a few minutes in place of Zin :blink:
Marc Overmars
04-12-2024, 07:23 PM
Kiwior and Zinchenko :lol:
Dear me.
Mac76
04-12-2024, 07:28 PM
Kiwior and Zinchenko :lol:
Dear me.
We need to hope the new Man Ure manager doesn't realise what a weakness it is
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 07:36 PM
Their lineup doesn’t exactly strike fear either
dostoy
04-12-2024, 07:39 PM
Kiwior is OK but Zinchenko is a liability.
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 07:46 PM
I think Man Utd might struggle to get out of midfield at points but probably panic stations when they do.
Letters
04-12-2024, 08:14 PM
Right.
Come on, you twats. Let’s twat these twats
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 08:23 PM
Partey missed a sitter.
Letters
04-12-2024, 08:24 PM
Oh Partey :doh:
Letters
04-12-2024, 08:33 PM
This is not a great game so far.
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 08:40 PM
Martinelli. :lol:
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 08:52 PM
Partey has one game out, comes back and puts in a stinker.
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 08:55 PM
This has been such a tepid performance so far.
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 08:57 PM
Dalot should have put United ahead
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 09:01 PM
0-0 HT.
That was terrible.
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:04 PM
What a dull game :sleep:
Utd have come to contain and frustrate us and so far they’re doing it well.
Have to step up 2nd half
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 09:09 PM
Feels to me like we are more worried about them hitting us on the break, Dalot has Marshalled Martinelli well unfortunately but Malachia looks out of his depth and it’s him we need to exploit
Marc Overmars
04-12-2024, 09:15 PM
Quite shit.
21_GOONER_SALUTE
04-12-2024, 09:20 PM
Partey and Rice are pointless in this game.
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 09:25 PM
TIMBER!!!!
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:27 PM
GET IN!!
Loads better in this half.
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 09:29 PM
Saka should have scored
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 09:29 PM
Saka should do better.
Marc Overmars
04-12-2024, 09:30 PM
Quite annoying how much later this kicked off to the Liverpool game now we know what a win here will do.
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:30 PM
Saka should have scored
He should, although I think the flag had gone up
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 09:37 PM
Zinchenko had a mare there.
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:37 PM
Oh Zinchenko :rolleyes:
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 09:38 PM
Good save from Raya.
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:38 PM
What a save from Raya!
dazthegooner
04-12-2024, 09:38 PM
Good save Raya
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 09:42 PM
Martinelli and Zinchenko off, Trossard and Merino on.
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 09:43 PM
Trossard and Merino on, Zinchenko and Martinelli off
Im assuming Partey will go to right back and Timber to the left
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 09:44 PM
Rashford gifts us a corner. :lol:
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 09:44 PM
Saliba!!
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 09:44 PM
SALIBA!!!
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:44 PM
SALIBA!!
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:45 PM
Literally came off his arse :haha:
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 09:47 PM
Good save from Onana from Havertz
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:48 PM
Should have been 3, just wide from Marino.
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 09:48 PM
Merino should score.
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:53 PM
What a ball by Saka!
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 09:58 PM
Clever routine but nothing comes from it.
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:58 PM
Well worked free kick from ManYoo, good save from Raya.
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 09:58 PM
United get a free kick for Merino getting the ball off Antony but not Kiwior pulling at Zirkzee’s shirt
Hmm ok anyway decent free kick routine but saved by Raya in the end
Letters
04-12-2024, 09:59 PM
Oh don't start that "ole" shit, that never ends well.
Letters
04-12-2024, 10:01 PM
Great work by Trossard, good block from the Utd Defender
McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2024, 10:06 PM
2-0 FT. Lovely how routine it is beating Man Utd at home. :bow:
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 10:06 PM
Great work by Trossard, good block from the Utd Defender
Decent cameo he’s had, unlucky not to have a goal to his name tonight
dazthegooner
04-12-2024, 10:06 PM
So we start the day in 2nd win 2-0 and end the day in 3rd :lol:
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 10:07 PM
2-0 FT. Lovely how routine it is beating Man Utd at home. :bow:
And on our 500th game at the Emirates stadium no less
Certainly less dramatic than the previous two home wins against them
Letters
04-12-2024, 10:12 PM
Poor first half, excellent second.
Utd did very well to contain and frustrate us in the first half.
Soon as we got the goal they had to open up a bit and we pummelled them after that. Get in!
21_GOONER_SALUTE
04-12-2024, 10:13 PM
So we start the day in 2nd win 2-0 and end the day in 3rd :lol:
Well Today, we were always going to end up in 3rd with the way Chelsea has been playing.... I'm just glad its only due to goal difference.
Marc Overmars
04-12-2024, 10:14 PM
Champagne Stoke :bow:
Our set piece threat is quite hilarious.
Good win and encouraging to cut a little bit of the gap on Liverpool.
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 10:14 PM
At the risk of sounding like I’m damning them with faint praise, I don’t think United were terrible tonight
Some of our set pieces were ridiculous, and actually some of their defending was quite good. I think Dalot, Mazraoui and De Ligt had decent games…and De Ligt surely would have got on the scoresheet if not for Raya
I think we played within ourselves a bit, perhaps a bit too respectful of the ability of the United players to catch us on the break
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 10:16 PM
Well Today, we were always going to end up in 3rd with the way Chelsea has been playing.... I'm just glad its only due to goal difference.
Playing Southampton for almost an hour with an extra man tends to help
Plus in the last three league games they’ve both scored and conceded the same amount of goals as us
21_GOONER_SALUTE
04-12-2024, 10:30 PM
Champagne Stoke :bow:
:lol: :gp:
Letters
04-12-2024, 10:30 PM
At the risk of sounding like I’m damning them with faint praise, I don’t think United were terrible tonight
They're clearly the weaker side and came to try and frustrate us. They did that excellently in the first half which made it a dull game.
We came out with more purpose in the second half and as soon as we got the goal though they had to come out more and that created gaps. After that we thumped them. We should have got more really. It was just nice to get a routine win in a game which was a real banana skin.
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 10:39 PM
They're clearly the weaker side and came to try and frustrate us. They did that excellently in the first half which made it a dull game.
We came out with more purpose in the second half and as soon as we got the goal though they had to come out more and that created gaps. After that we thumped them. We should have got more really. It was just nice to get a routine win in a game which was a real banana skin.
Not disputing that they are the weaker side, but as I say in the opening post they are defensively solid, and it wasn’t just tonight where that’s proved to be the case. The Liverpool and Spurs defeats have been outliers of a team that is a hard nut to crack.
Going forward?, there wasn’t much there. I think they have players with potential but I think it was rather summed up by Garnacho turning Timber I think it was brilliantly in the first half but ultimately couldn’t even win them a corner
We did dominate after we took the lead, but I think it was good defending on their part that stopped us from getting a third
We bamboozled them from set pieces but the deliveries from both Rice and Saka were so good at times, it would have caused most defences to struggle
HCZ_Reborn
04-12-2024, 10:47 PM
:lol: :gp:
Anyone watching that game who didn’t at least once cast their mind towards Rory Delap and a beach towel is a god damn liar :lol:
HCZ_Reborn
05-12-2024, 08:02 AM
https://youtu.be/Xx4rG3IEMuo?si=taTprEjneUNwtWUo
He’s been!!
I won’t lie, I quite like Goldbridge. He’s very fair minded when it comes to Arsenal
Anyone watching that game who didn’t at least once cast their mind towards Rory Delap and a beach towel is a god damn liar :lol:
I didn't, but only because I've got a very good PTSD therapist.
HCZ_Reborn
05-12-2024, 08:42 AM
I didn't, but only because I've got a very good PTSD therapist.
I had a client yesterday who wanted a diagnosis of PTSD so he could go back and tell his ex that was the reason he was such a dickhead. I had to tell him I don’t do diagnostics (and I don’t think he has PTSD in any event, but of course I didn’t tell him that).
I can imagine that's quite common, people wanting a diagnosis to justify shit behaviour.
(I was joking about having a PTSD therapist, just to be clear!)
HCZ_Reborn
05-12-2024, 09:10 AM
I can imagine that's quite common, people wanting a diagnosis to justify shit behaviour.
(I was joking about having a PTSD therapist, just to be clear!)
Really? I wouldn’t have known :lol:
I'm talking to the one person on here who might have taken that statement seriously :lol:
Mac76
05-12-2024, 11:51 AM
https://youtu.be/Xx4rG3IEMuo?si=taTprEjneUNwtWUo
He’s been!!
I won’t lie, I quite like Goldbridge. He’s very fair minded when it comes to Arsenal
Hilarious, a bit of BS about Timber pushing but otherwise he's reasonably fair as you say
21_GOONER_SALUTE
05-12-2024, 01:07 PM
https://youtu.be/Xx4rG3IEMuo?si=taTprEjneUNwtWUo
He’s been!!
I won’t lie, I quite like Goldbridge. He’s very fair minded when it comes to Arsenal
:lol: :lol: "Where's Scooby"..........really enjoyed this clip.
https://youtu.be/Xx4rG3IEMuo?si=taTprEjneUNwtWUo
He’s been!!
I won’t lie, I quite like Goldbridge. He’s very fair minded when it comes to Arsenal
'It's just Scrappy Dappy Doo - Where's Scooby?' :haha:
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