This Weekend's Fixtures (21/22 December).

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Saturday, 21st December 2024
Aston Villa v Manchester City, 12:30 https://i.imgur.com/tM2pRxb.png
Brentford v Nottingham Forest, 15:00
Ipswich Town v Newcastle United, 15:00
West Ham United v Brighton & Hove Albion, 15:00
Crystal Palace v Arsenal, 17:30 https://i.imgur.com/htwHZ0c.jpg

Sunday, 22nd December 2024
Everton v Chelsea, 14:00
Fulham v Southampton, 14:00 https://i.imgur.com/htwHZ0c.jpg
Leicester City v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 14:00
Manchester United v Bournemouth, 14:00
Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool, 16:30 https://i.imgur.com/htwHZ0c.jpg

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Easy chance for Villa and fucked it up.

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What a save from Ortega.

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Aston Villa: Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Torres, Digne, Onana, Kamara, McGinn, Tielemans, Rogers, Duran
Subs: Bogarde, Buendia, Barkley, Watkins, Mings, Maatsen, Nedeljkovic, Bailey, Olsen.

Manchester City: Ortega, Lewis, Stones, Akanji, Gvardiol, Kovacic, Gundogan, Bernardo, Foden, Grealish, Haaland
Subs: Carson, Walker, Ake, Doku, De Bruyne, Savinho, Simpson-Pusey, O'Reilly, McAtee.

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Villa 1-0 Man City, Duran!

What a goal.

Great pass from Tielemans.

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Villa lead. Single Duran

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Martinez saves from Foden.

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Horrendous decision making from McGinn, it was 5 v 2!

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Man City are so easily ran through right now.

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Gvardiol header over.

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1-0 HT.

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Walker on for Stones. :lol:

Man City are properly fucked now.

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Cash with the terrible decision making this time.

Tielemans has had a really good game.

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Rogers hits the post!

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2-0 Rogers!

Brilliant from him.

Tielemans involved again.

[Letters]

I don’t know what the hell is going on at City but long May it continue!

[Mac76]

It's unreal, this is beyond a blip now and into full-blown crisis - Pep out?

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Watkins goes straight at Ortega.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Man City are so easily ran through right now.

The Lilly Phillips of football teams

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:lol: Yeah.

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The Lilly Phillips of football teams

:haha:

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Villa 2-1 Man City, Foden.

:faint:

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Villa 2-1 Man City, FT!

Citeh. :haha:

Absolute implosion.

[HCZ_Reborn]

At the moment the best word to describe City is haemorrhaging. Just completely bleeding out, they must wonder when the coagulant kicks in

[dazthegooner]

They will probably carry on like this then have an upturn when they play us.

[HCZ_Reborn]

They will probably carry on like this then have an upturn when they play us.

There’s clearly something wrong when people make me seem like Pollyanna (or the Arsenal equivalent which would be Ty from AFTV) :lol:

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Ipswich 0-1 Newcastle, Isak.

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0-3 Newcastle now, Murphy and Isak with his second.

Brentford 0-1 Forest, Aina.

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Forest now 2-0 up

They have a decent collection of scalps - Liverpool, United (although arguably less impressive than it was) and now quite possibly Brentford (unbeaten at home and won all but one of their home games) . Yet ironically they are the only team City have beaten in the last eight games

Funny old world

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Brighton ahead at Hammers (subject to VAR check)


It’s been given. Wieffer the goalscorer


No me neither

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Elanga for Forest's second

Wieffer for Brighton's.

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0-4 Newcastle, Isak hat-trick!

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Kudus equalises. West Ham 1-1 Brighton

[Mac76]

Forest win 2-0 at Brentford, up to third after 17 games - title contenders?

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Forest win 2-0 at Brentford, up to third after 17 games - title contenders?

Nooooo not for me

Yes I get the idea that they could potentially do a Leicester, but Leicester had lost only one game at this point of the season (to us) and Forest have lost four.

Champions League qualification? Now there’s something that could be a possibility

But either way, they are very impressive compared to their relegation battling first two seasons

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Forest win 2-0 at Brentford, up to third after 17 games - title contenders?

Nuno is a brilliant manager .....has always been.

Unforunately, he made the mistake of visting the graveyard of brilliant managers, Spurs, and that set his career back.

I just hope if he gets another shot at a big club, he doesn't choose one in the EPL...for our sake.

[Letters]

Forest win 2-0 at Brentford, up to third after 17 games - title contenders?

Not a chance :lol:

[Mac76]

Not a chance :lol:

I believe people said the same about Leicester ;)

Ok, it's very unlikely but the table doesn't lie and they've been one of very few teams to beat Liverpool this season

[Letters]

I believe people said the same about Leicester ;)

Ok, it's very unlikely but the table doesn't lie and they've been one of very few teams to beat Liverpool this season

They did say the same about Leicester, but that was a weird season in which all the usual suspects were misfiring at the same time. This year you have Liverpool, Chelsea and us going for it, hard to see Forest getting a look in. It’s always good to see a club like that doing well though

[Letters]

Anyway…COYS :sick:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Anyway…COYS :sick:

They are away at Forest on Boxing Day so win today and lose that game. All good

[Mac76]

I have to confess that on this occasion I wouldn'r find a Spuds win as abhorrent as I suually do

[HCZ_Reborn]

Hopefully wins for Everton and Bournemouth as well

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Guedes gives Wolves the lead away at Leicester

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Weather is absolutely grim up here, which will hopefully suit Everton.

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Man Utd 0-1 Bournemouth. :lol:

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Wolves now 2-0 up

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0-3 now. :wacko:

Gomes and Cunha.

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0-3 now. :wacko:

Gomes and Cunha.

When you look at the fact that Wolves have scored a fair amount of goals this season, it shouldn’t really have been that they were in the position they are in…in terms of firepower they clearly have more than the other relegation threatened teams. I think O’Neil whilst harshly sacked with Bournemouth was doubling down on this all out attack and leaving gaps at the back

[HCZ_Reborn]

Plus another factor is that, a team with Portuguese and Brazilian players are going to respond better to a Portuguese speaker

I remember that a lot of the apparent issues between Emery and the Arsenal squad was his heavily accented broken English

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0-2 Bournemouth, Kluivert pelanty. :haha:

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3-0 Semenyo :haha:

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:haha:

New manager bounce. :rose:

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Traore misses for Fulham. :faint:

[Mac76]

Chelsea :lol:

Couldn't beat Neverton :lol:

Oh... :getcoat:

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FT Everton 0-0 Chelsea

Not the win for Everton I’d have hoped for, but sounds like Everton frustrated Chelsea first half and actually looked the more likely to win second half

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Everton 0-0 Chelsea, FT!

Happy days.

[Mac76]

FT Man Ure 0 Bournemouth 3

Amorim :pal:

[Mac76]

Van Nistelhorse losing 3-0 as well :haha:

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Man Utd. :haha:

Come back Ten Hag all is forgiven.

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Fulham 0-0 Southampton, FT.

WTF.

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Fulham 0-0 Southampton, FT.

WTF.

Quite the performance from Mr Ramsdale im led to believe

Good for him

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250-300 showed up to the Levy Out protest. :haha:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Have to say fair play to both Bournemouth and Forest, both are well placed to earn themselves a place in Europe next season

Especially Bournemouth who operate on a far smaller budget than most teams

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Forster setting Salah up. :lol:

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Oof great chance for Salah and Szoboszlai.

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0-1 Luis Diaz.

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0-2 Mac Allister.

Forster was too slow to react to that.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Fucking Spurs

I mean if you lose at home to Ipswich, this shouldn’t be a surprise I guess

Of course the media will act like Liverpool are some great team and there are enough people on here to oblige by sucking greasy scouse cock

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1-2 Maddison. How has that happened. :lol:

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1-3. Oh Spurs.

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1-3 HT. Classic Spuds.

[HCZ_Reborn]

The fucking fellation this Liverpool side get from the media is unbelievable

I still love it how Sky sports were gobbling them full on and saying how good they were at closing out games only for Newcastle to get an equaliser.

A 2-2 draw at home to Fulham with ten men? Heroic. A 2-2 draw away at the reigning champions. Oh Arsenal didn’t show enough ambition, they were wasting time…(not backed by the statistics)

Just because we are saddled with a coach who doesn’t believe in strikers, there’s no need to pretend Liverpool are special.

[Marc Overmars]

Spurs. :haha:

On for 8 defeats by Christmas.

[Mac76]

Spuds being Spuds again :rolleyes:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Spuds being Spuds again :rolleyes:

They should have the decency to be shit on their own time and not when it affects us

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1-4 Salah.

:doh:

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Oh this is fucking criminal.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Well that’s wiped out any positivity I took from yesterday’s game. I knew they were all over the shop but I thought they’d have enough about them not to poo themselves like this.

[dostoy]

Surely we want Liverpool to drop points in other matches, not today.

I never tire of seeing Spuds lose, especially at their beloved toilet seat stadium.

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Well that’s wiped out any positivity I took from yesterday’s game. I knew they were all over the shop but I thought they’d have enough about them not to poo themselves like this.

Spurs in “being Spurs” shock :shrug:

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1-5 Salah.

WTF.

This could end up nine quite honestly.

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Surely we want Liverpool to drop points in other matches, not today.

I never tire of seeing Spuds lose, especially at their beloved toilet seat stadium.

The fact it’s Spurs is certain a silver lining.
Always worth chuckling at them embarrassing themselves.
But we need Liverpool to start dropping points and this was one which looked like one where that was possible

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1-5 Salah.

WTF.

This could end up nine quite honestly.

:haha:

Oh Spurs

[Mac76]

Oh well if Liverpool are going to thrash someone it might as well be Spuds :good:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Surely we want Liverpool to drop points in other matches, not today.

I never tire of seeing Spuds lose, especially at their beloved toilet seat stadium.

Fuck that, Spurs are no threat to us. Fuck the petty parochial concerns. To quote that beetroot cheeked cunt Ferguson, I want Liverpool knocking off their fucking perch. I’m sick of being told how good they are (especially by someone here who hasn’t even watched them play) and feeling like I’m being gaslit.

I don’t even dislike Liverpool, I dislike the fact that a team that clearly can be got at in a way City last season couldn’t..will win the league because Arteta is an inadequate coach

[HCZ_Reborn]

The fact it’s Spurs is certain a silver lining.
Always worth chuckling at them embarrassing themselves.
But we need Liverpool to start dropping points and this was one which looked like one where that was possible

It’s really not

Spurs are like the person you always hated but finding them homeless, dancing for pennies and having pissed themselves. It’s no longer funny, it’s just sad and you have to look away

I’d be able to see the funny side of things, If we’d beaten this Liverpool team (as we should have) and hadn’t dropped points left, right and centre.

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2-5 Kulusevski.

The comeback is on.

Tbf he has been brilliant for them this season.

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2-5 Kulusevski.

The comeback is on.

Tbf he has been brilliant for them this season.

Very good player in my view

I’d be more than happy to take him off their hands, if he gets fed up with this embarassing shit

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Irony is Spurs are now the leagues top scorers again

Make it make sense

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You'd think he would be fed up of this clownshow soon.

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Werner on now.

Liverpool will surely regret all the missed chances at 1-5.

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3-5 Solanke. :haha:

WTF.

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3-6 Diaz. :lol:

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3-6 FT.

Ange. :wave:

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FT. What an absolute Shitfest

But still hail the team that’s conceded 8 goals in the last three league games. Clearly the best team since the invention of the game, and no way fortunate to be facing this car crash Spurs side without its first choice defence or keeper

Still though can’t complain, they dropped points in the last two games and we chose not to capitalise

[Marc Overmars]

Spurs are such a weird team.

Anyway as mentioned we’ve fucked this ourselves. That Neverton 0-0 was an unacceptable result.

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FT. What an absolute Shitfest

But still hail the team that’s conceded 8 goals in the last three league games. Clearly the best team since the invention of the game, and no way fortunate to be facing this car crash Spurs side without its first choice defence or keeper

Still though can’t complain, they dropped points in the last two games and we chose not to capitalise

Seriously? You're still trying to peddle the lucky thing?

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It’s really not

Spurs are like the person you always hated but finding them homeless, dancing for pennies and having pissed themselves. It’s no longer funny, it’s just sad and you have to look away.
Nah. I don't think there's any real depth of humiliation Spurs could sink to that wouldn't make me chuckle.
Obviously I wanted Spurs to get something against Chelsea and Liverpool but on both occasions I can take some comfort in Spurs embarrassing themselves again.

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Seriously? You're still trying to peddle the lucky thing?

I don’t remember Spurs having their keeper and three of their defenders out when we played them

Not to say they wouldn’t have won anyway, but the fact that they conceded three goals as I said proves they can be got at. And just as I said a few weeks ago that if the gap wasn’t reduced it wouldn’t be because they didn’t drop points (they did) but because we failed to capitalise.

I don’t find this Liverpool side impressive, yes the best teams also get a bit slice of luck. But will see how it goes for them when it abandons me. I apologise that I won’t get on my knees like the rest of the media do. But the Liverpool side at its best under Klopp was not only deadly going forward (and not massively dependent on one player) it probably wouldn’t be conceding 8 goals in three games, this feels like a pale imitation that if it wins the league will be because it’s had the fortune of us having a moron and control freak as coach and City spontaneously combusting

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Nah. I don't think there's any real depth of humiliation Spurs could sink to that wouldn't make me chuckle.
Obviously I wanted Spurs to get something against Chelsea and Liverpool but on both occasions I can take some comfort in Spurs embarrassing themselves again.

Not for me. Spurs are an afterthought….ive never taken any pleasure from them losing when them getting a result would benefit us. Because I care more about us than them. They aren’t our rivals in any real sense currently ….plus frankly the dislike is bound in their geographic location relative to ours.

I actually hate Chelsea and City for how they’ve poisoned the game much more.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Anyway no further discussion on this matter. You won’t watch Liverpool games so there’s no point discussing it. Plus as I’ve said the element of fortune is not just the fortune they’ve had in their own games it’s the fact that we and City have shit the bed (no we haven’t collapsed as spectacularly as City but we’ve dropped 14 points from ten games)

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Anyway no further discussion on this matter. You won’t watch Liverpool games so there’s no point discussing it.
You haven't exactly got a queue of people lining up to agree with you, fella.
In a previous discussion about this you actively had other people telling you that you were being ridiculous. :shrug:

I also hate Chelsea and possibly City more than Spurs. The possibly being that I've never particularly had an issue with them as a club, unlike Chelsea, but I can't abide the media fawning over them and how rarely anyone calls them out on how they've achieved success. Overall I'd rather Spurs had won today but, given that they didn't, I'll take comfort where I can. And where I can is Spurs falling flat on their stupid faces again.

[HCZ_Reborn]

You haven't exactly got a queue of people lining up to agree with you, fella.
In a previous discussion about this you actively had other people telling you that you were being ridiculous. :shrug:

I also hate Chelsea and possibly City more than Spurs. The possibly being that I've never particularly had an issue with them as a club, unlike Chelsea, but I can't abide the media fawning over them and how rarely anyone calls them out on how they've achieved success. Overall I'd rather Spurs had won today but, given that they didn't, I'll take comfort where I can. And where I can is Spurs falling flat on their stupid faces again.

What they claimed was ridiculous was me comparing Liverpool’s title run to Leicester’s title win in 2016

And I make the comparison because unlike sides where you think “oh yeah they look like title winners” I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop. And I maintain that it will, unfortunately I just don’t think we are going to benefit.

Plus do you need a consensus before you express an opinion?.

Liverpool last season finished on 82 points and I will be astounded if they top that. Will see how things fall for them in January when they are without Salah…whilst I think ultimately we are not good enough to capitalise…it may be that Chelsea do (although they will be missing Nicholas Jackson)

[HCZ_Reborn]

If I’m honest you seem convinced that I’m just refusing to acknowledge that Liverpool are this great side having an amazing season, because of some debate about Liverpool that I had on here five months ago as if somehow such a thing remotely matters to me.
What’s eating away at me is seeing a Liverpool side that I believe greatly inferior to us occupying the position that we should be in, and would be in (regardless of whether we’d signed a striker or not) if we had a coach better able to utilise the talent at his disposal.
Yes we were unlucky with injuries and suspensions too, but simply put…to be six points behind this Liverpool side having played a game more is to me an unforgivable travesty. The drop down in level between them and City at their relentless is gargantuan.
Whilst it’s not an excuse you haven’t had sides employing the deep block against Liverpool against us…well Forest did and they won.

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Plus do you need a consensus before you express an opinion?.
Not consensus, but when someone is an expressing an opinion which I've literally not heard anyone else state then it does raise eyebrows.


Will see how things fall for them in January when they are without Salah
Why will they be without Salah? I spoke another friend about that and he told me it's not the ACON this season, that was last year.
If they do lose him then that would be a massive blow, I read this morning that he's become the first player in PL history to get in to double digits for both goals and assists before Christmas.



If I’m honest you seem convinced that I’m just refusing to acknowledge that Liverpool are this great side having an amazing season
You don't have to think they're a great side, but just dismissing it all as luck is more ludicrous with every passing game. That just feels like stubbornness, the reality is we both underestimated them. I didn't see them as serious contenders, just as I didn't foresee City falling off a cliff - you did better with that prediction but I don't think you could would have thought they'd be in literal relegation form. That's something we can all enjoy


to be six points behind this Liverpool side having played a game more is to me an unforgivable travesty.
"unforgivable travesty" seems like a bit of a Shakespearian overstatement, but I basically agree that we've dropped some stupid points and we should be closer to them. While they have a game in hand I'm still a bit happier with the league table than I was and I don't regard it as an unbridgeable gap. There is a long way to go.

[Marc Overmars]

Yeah there is no AFCON in January, it’s next winter.

Aside from Salah getting injured I’m not really sure what else can stop Liverpool. We will need a repeat of our second half of last season to make it interesting.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Not consensus, but when someone is an expressing an opinion which I've literally not heard anyone else state then it does raise eyebrows.


Why will they be without Salah? I spoke another friend about that and he told me it's not the ACON this season, that was last year.
If they do lose him then that would be a massive blow, I read this morning that he's become the first player in PL history to get in to double digits for both goals and assists before Christmas.



You don't have to think they're a great side, but just dismissing it all as luck is more ludicrous with every passing game. That just feels like stubbornness, the reality is we both underestimated them. I didn't see them as serious contenders, just as I didn't foresee City falling off a cliff - you did better with that prediction but I don't think you could would have thought they'd be in literal relegation form. That's something we can all enjoy


"unforgivable travesty" seems like a bit of a Shakespearian overstatement, but I basically agree that we've dropped some stupid points and we should be closer to them. While they have a game in hand I'm still a bit happier with the league table than I was and I don't regard it as an unbridgeable gap. There is a long way to go.


Please don’t tell me we are going to get to the point where I have to explain the qualitative difference between saying a team has been lucky and dismissing everything as just down to luck. Maybe it’s because you are interpreting what I’m saying in the way you are that means you haven’t heard the opinion from anyone else. When I talk about them not being that great I’m not talking like they are a mid table side, yes I’ve used the Leicester comparison but mainly because compared to the City team that dominated and the previous teams under Klopp they are a pale imitation…and I’ve been waiting for the other shoe to drop which it has in so far that a defence I think is not great at all has been shown as just that. Maybe Salah will simply have the kind of season where he does single handedly drag them over the line.




Yeah I don’t know where I got AFCON from, probably a case of forgetting which year we are in (or wishful thinking)

[Mac76]

You've definitely.underestimated Liverpool but also overestimated the opposition, this season is a welcome change from recent times when Citeh have been odds-on to win but now it's much more open as always every team has their faults

Liverpool have real quality up front in numbers - your dismissal of players like Gakpo is ridiculous - plus they're able to turn defence into attackuch more quickly than us amd Slot has wisely turned down the volume on the heavy metal to create a more sustainable way of playing

Salah yes is crucial and without him it's different but you could say that about a lot of teams - Wood at Forest for example

The only thing I'm annoyed ahout anywhere this season is those disgraceful decisions re Rice and Trossard, also I still think Saliba's was harsh given yellows awarded for very similar (or worse) incidents elsewhere and the fact they changed the original onfield decision.

The Citeh game in particular was a decision the whole football world should be up in arms about, it ruined a very good game apart from anything else

[HCZ_Reborn]

You've definitely.underestimated Liverpool but also overestimated the opposition, this season is a welcome change from recent times when Citeh have been odds-on to win but now it's much more open as always every team has their faults

Liverpool have real.quality up front in numbers, plus they're.able to turn defence into attackuch more quickly than us amd Slot has wisely.turned down the volume on the heavy metal to create a more sustainable way of playing

Salah yes is crucial and without him it's different but you could say that about a lot of teams - Wood at Forest for example

The only thing I'm annoyed ahout anywhere this season is those disgraceful decisions re Rice and Trossard, also I still think Saliba's was harsh given yellows awarded for very similar (or worse) incidents elsewhere and the fact they changed the original onfield decision.

The Citeh game in particular was a decision the whole football world shpuld be up in arms about, it ruined a very good game apart from anything else

Salah in terms of both goals and assists has been almost singularly crucial to Liverpool this season

I underestimated him still being able to produce that level at 32 for sure when he has looked like he was slowing down the last couple of seasons

The rest of the attack? Nunez is not what I’d call real quality nor Gakpo (yes I get you rate him, I don’t) . Jota could be if he stayed fit, and Diaz has technical ability but he blows hot and cold. Without Salah they simply would not be where they are now…no where near in fact

McAllister is Argentine Aaron Ramsey, Hungarian copy and paste is a poor man’s Odegaard

I couldn’t understand why Liverpool weren’t conceding many goals given how many chances they were coughing up, but that now seems to have evened itself out with them conceding 10 goals in the last 5 (any other season that wouldn’t be title winning defending but we have Arteta so can’t really punish them)

I haven’t enjoyed this season at all, basically it’s like you’ve been waiting years for a girl you like to dump the dickhead she’s with, only for you to trip up over your own shoelaces when your moment comes and some ugly weird bloke who was considered a lady’s man once but has let himself go, steps up and the girl goes off with him because your nose is planted firmly in the dirt.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I should give the bald Dutchman credit, he managed to see very quickly that the languid slow style that he wanted them to play wasn’t going to work, and that he needed to stick to the script that Klopp had left for him. As for Klopp he must be sick as a dog that he didn’t hang on for one more season, but I guess he couldn’t have foreseen the level of City’s collapse or our indifferent form that meant that a side that did fantastically well to challenge for the title last season despite not really being capable of it would be title favourites

[Mac76]

I doubt Klopp's that bothered, he won pretty much everything with Liverpool and now has a nice cozy job which doesn't require him to be standing around on freezing cold pitches on a Sunday morning in January :good: