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McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 12:22 PM
Saturday, 4th January 2025
Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United, 12:30 https://i.imgur.com/tM2pRxb.png
Aston Villa v Leicester City, 15:00
Bournemouth v Everton, 15:00
Crystal Palace v Chelsea, 15:00
Manchester City v West Ham United, 15:00
Southampton v Brentford, 15:00
Brighton & Hove Albion v Arsenal, 17:30 https://i.imgur.com/htwHZ0c.jpg

Sunday, 5th January 2025
Fulham v Ipswich Town, 14:00 https://i.imgur.com/htwHZ0c.jpg
Liverpool v Manchester United, 16:30 https://i.imgur.com/htwHZ0c.jpg

Monday, 6th January 2025
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Nottingham Forest, 20:00 https://i.imgur.com/htwHZ0c.jpg

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 12:31 PM
Spuds: Austin; Pedro Porro, Dragusin, Gray, Spence; Bergvall, Sarr, Kulusevski; Johnson, Solanke, Werner.
Subs: Whiteman, Hardy, Dorrington, Reguilon, Bissouma, Olusesi, Maddison, Son, Lankshear.

Newcastle: Dubravka; Hall, Burn, Botman, Livramento; Joelinton, Tonali, Guimaraes; Gordon, Isak, Murphy.
Subs: Vlachodimos, Trippier, Barnes, Osula, Almirón, Kelly, Willock, Longstaff, Miley

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 12:34 PM
1-0 Solanke. What a cross and a header.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 12:36 PM
1-1 Gordon.

Poor from Bergvall.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 12:38 PM
Oh it has been allowed. WTF. :haha:

I thought any handball leading to a goal would be disallowed?

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 12:51 PM
Austin saves off Gordon.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 01:02 PM
What a miss from Isak.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 01:08 PM
1-2 Dragusin OG. :haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 01:11 PM
Actually it'll be Isak's goal. :lol:

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 01:48 PM
What a miss from Gordon.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 02:13 PM
Johnson and Reguilon. :haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 02:21 PM
10 added minutes.

Mac76
04-01-2025, 02:26 PM
As much as I'd like to see Spuds lose again, a draw might at least put them off sacking Ange, which woud be a good thing, as watching him mismanage Spuds is funny :)

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 02:33 PM
Spuds 1-2 Newcastle, FT. :haha:

Ten defeats in the league, by the first week in January.

That is woeful.

Marc Overmars
04-01-2025, 02:34 PM
10 defeats out of 20 is so bad. They’ve got to be waiting for the cup semi outcome to ditch Ange.

Letters
04-01-2025, 02:34 PM
:haha:

Spurs :pal:

Why so much added time?

Mac76
04-01-2025, 02:34 PM
Spuds lose again :haha:

HCZ_Reborn
04-01-2025, 02:34 PM
As much as I'd like to see Spuds lose again, a draw might at least put them off sacking Ange, which woud be a good thing, as watching him mismanage Spuds is funny :)

On the plus side, Newcastle could take a champions league place from Chelsea

Mac76
04-01-2025, 02:37 PM
Fair play to Eddie Howe, he's really turned that team around from a poor start to the season

Marc Overmars
04-01-2025, 02:38 PM
Fair play to Eddie Howe, he's really turned that team around from a poor start to the season

Reckon we’re in for a very difficult 2 legs in the semi.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 02:42 PM
:haha:

Spurs :pal:

Why so much added time?

Refs paying tribute with one minute for every Spuds defeat so far.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 02:44 PM
Manchester City: Ortega, Lewis, Akanji, Ake, Gvardiol, Kovacic, Foden, De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Savinho, Haaland.
Subs: Carson, Walker, Doku, Grealish, Gundogan, McAtee, Nunes, O’Reilly, Simpson-Pusey.

West Ham: Areola, Coufal, Todibo, Kilman, Wan-Bissaka, Lucas Paqueta, Soucek, Alvarez, Kudus, Summerville, Fullkrug.
Subs: Foderingham, Cresswell, Soler, Mavropanos, Ings, Rodriguez, Irving, Luis Guilherme, Scarles.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 02:45 PM
Bournemouth: Travers, Kerkez, Huijsen, Zabarnyi, Hill, Cook, Christie, Semenyo, Ouattara, Kluivert, Evanilson.
Subs: Kepa, Brooks, Adams, Unal, Billing, Aarons, Winterburn, Kinsey, Rees-Dottin.

Everton: Pickford, Mykolenko, Branthwaite, Tarkowski, Young, Doucoure, Gueye, Mangala, Ndiaye, Broja, Lindstrom.
Subs: Virgínia, Begovic, Patterson, Keane, Calvert-Lewin, Harrison, Beto, O'Brien, Armstrong.

Mac76
04-01-2025, 02:46 PM
West Ham are a total joke right now, if Citeh can't win this they really should start calling for Pep to go

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 02:47 PM
Southampton: Ramsdale, Harwood-Bellis, Bednarek, Wood, Bree, Sulemana, Aribo, Walker-Peters, Dibling, Ugochukwu, Onuachu.
Subs: McCarthy, Manning, Adam Armstrong, Lallana, Sugawara, Brereton Diaz, Archer, Taylor, Bella-Kotchap.

Brentford: Flekken, Roerslev, Collins, van den Berg, Lewis-Potter, Schade, Norgaard, Jensen, Damsgaard, Mbuemo, Wissa.
Subs: Valdimarsson, Yarmoliuk, Meghoma, Konak, Janelt, Maghoma, Kim Ji-Soo, Yogane, Arthur.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 02:48 PM
Aston Villa: Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Digne, Tielemans, Kamara, Barkley, McGinn, Bailey, Watkins.
Subs: Olsen, Nedeljkovic, Bogarde, Maatsen, Swinkels, Onana, Buendia, Jimoh-Aloba, Ramsey.

Leicester: Stolarcyzk, Justin, Coady, Vestergaard, Thomas, Winks, Soumare, El Khannouss, Mavidi, Ayew, Vardy.
Subs: Iversen, Faes, Okoli, Choudhury, Skipp, De Cordova-Reid, Alves, Buonanotte, Daka.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 02:51 PM
Crystal Palace: Henderson, Mitchell, Lacroix, Guehi, Sarr, Lerma, Eze, Munoz, Mateta, Richards, Doucoure.
Subs: Turner, Nketiah, Schlupp, Clyne, Kamada, Riad, Devenny, Kporha, Agbinone.

Chelsea: Sanchez, Cucurella, Acheampong, Colwill, Gusto, Fernandez, Caicedo, Sancho, Palmer, Neto, Jackson.
Subs: Jorgensen, Disasi, Adarabioyo, Madueke, Felix, Nkunku, James, Guiu, Veiga.

HCZ_Reborn
04-01-2025, 02:53 PM
West Ham are a total joke right now, if Citeh can't win this they really should start calling for Pep to go

That and I think West Ham haven’t beaten City in almost ten years

Only three draws from 18 games since

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 03:02 PM
They're due then. :bow:

HCZ_Reborn
04-01-2025, 03:08 PM
Refs paying tribute with one minute for every Spuds defeat so far.

Spurs now not won in six home games, two draws, four defeats

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 03:09 PM
Southampton 0-1 Brentford, Schade.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 03:11 PM
Man City 1-0 West Ham, Coufal OG.

Letters
04-01-2025, 03:12 PM
Refs paying tribute with one minute for every Spuds defeat so far.

:haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 03:15 PM
Palace 0-1 Chelsea, Palmer.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 03:43 PM
Man City 2-0 West Ham, Haaland.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 04:14 PM
Southampton 0-2 Brentford, Van Den Berg.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 04:15 PM
Man City 3-0 West Ham, Haaland with his second.

Brentford's second has been disallowed.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 04:17 PM
Man City 4-0 West Ham, Foden.

Lopetegui. :doh:

HCZ_Reborn
04-01-2025, 04:17 PM
4-0 now to City, Foden

Oh good they are playing with confidence again :thumbsdown:

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 04:17 PM
Aston Villa 1-0 Leicester, Barkley.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 04:25 PM
Villa 1-1 Leicester, Mavididi.

Emery. :lol:

Southampton 0-2 Brentford, Mbuemo.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 04:30 PM
Man City 4-1 West Ham, Fullkrug.

Southampton 0-3 Brentford, Mbuemo pelanty.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 04:36 PM
Villa 2-1 Leicester, Bailey.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 04:38 PM
Bournemouth 1-0 Everton, Brooks!

Dyche. :haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 04:40 PM
Palace 1-1 Chelsea, Mateta!

:haha:

HCZ_Reborn
04-01-2025, 04:43 PM
Palace 1-1 Chelsea, Mateta!

:haha:

The goal that I’ve been waiting for

Although it’s done little to douse the near on psychopathic fury I feel about our lineup

Marc Overmars
04-01-2025, 04:46 PM
That Mateta goal has bagged me £120 on my acca. Beautiful.

Mac76
04-01-2025, 05:02 PM
Palace 1-1 Chelsea, Mateta!

:haha:

:gp:

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 05:04 PM
Southampton 0-5 Brentford in the end, Lewis-Potter and Wissa with those two other goals.

Southampton. :bow:

Keeping hopes of breaking Derby's record alive.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-01-2025, 08:49 PM
The weather up here is due to be bad (snow) from now until late afternoon tomorrow.

Wonder if the Liverpool game will be postponed again. :ninja:

Shaqiri Is Boss
05-01-2025, 09:46 AM
The weather up here is due to be bad (snow) from now until late afternoon tomorrow.

Wonder if the Liverpool game will be postponed again. :ninja:It is indeed very snowy, but thankfully it is meant to be pissing down from midday so that should get rid of it all.

Two games in hand with an already congested fixture list is bad enough, but against Everton and United? :sick:

Shaqiri Is Boss
05-01-2025, 12:47 PM
It is indeed very snowy, but thankfully it is meant to be pissing down from midday so that should get rid of it all.

Two games in hand with an already congested fixture list is bad enough, but against Everton and United? :sick:It does go ahead.

All set up to be a boring 1-1.

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HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 01:05 PM
It does go ahead.

All set up to be a boring 1-1.

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Ugh don’t. A 1-1 draw would put our shameful failure yesterday even more in the spotlight

Shaqiri Is Boss
05-01-2025, 02:10 PM
Ugh don’t. A 1-1 draw would put our shameful failure yesterday even more in the spotlight

It's inevitable we'll drop points more often in the second half of the season than we did in the first, but then you're going to drop points as well. Given the points gap even if we have a drop off in the same way we did last season, that still may be enough, as it's obviously hard to see you only dropping points in 2 games like you did last year. It's interesting you've already drawn 7 games this season, 2 more than the whole of last.

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 02:41 PM
We’ve dropped 10 points from winning positions (compared to 9 at the same point last season).

The main difference is that 8 of those points have come away from home (compared to 5 last season) if you go back to August 2022…if we got the lead away from home we’d most likely go on and win. I guess in a way it’s swings and roundabouts as we’ve picked up five points this season when conceding the first goal away from home which was largely game over for us.

We’ve been plagued by injury and rum refereeing. I don’t believe the decisions are part of a conspiracy, i think it’s weak match officials who referee us according to perceived reputation. But for me the fact that we’ve drawn 7 times is attributable to a coach who is too adverse to risk. Now we do have to risk more when going forward because we don’t have a balanced side that can transition from defence to attack well, nor do we have someone in God mode like Salah who when he isn’t scoring goals is making them.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 02:45 PM
It's inevitable we'll drop points more often in the second half of the season than we did in the first, but then you're going to drop points as well. Given the points gap even if we have a drop off in the same way we did last season, that still may be enough, as it's obviously hard to see you only dropping points in 2 games like you did last year. It's interesting you've already drawn 7 games this season, 2 more than the whole of last.

For 'interesting' see ridiculous red cards and Arteta's over-cautious approach and failure to strengthen our attack in the summer

Mac76
05-01-2025, 02:46 PM
Really hope Ipswich win this game, would put Neverton and even Man Ure under more pressure

Marc Overmars
05-01-2025, 02:51 PM
I think injuries have contributed most to our fumble of this title. Last season we were incredibly lucky that every key player played near enough every game, now our starting 11 changes every week and most critically our back 4 have all had issues.

If Saka wasn’t going to be missing for the next few months I’d say there may still be a chance but there just isn’t enough up front to keep it going without him.

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 03:05 PM
I think Arteta has contributed to it the most

Playing Partey at right back, playing Rice at 8…playing two holding midfielders no matter who we are playing.

Saka and Odegaard injuries are both on poor management as well. Call it a freak injury all we like, we’ve been playing Russian roulette with his fitness for far too long

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 03:10 PM
Man Utd will be panicking. :lol:

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 03:28 PM
1-1 Jimenez pel, now another one for Ipswich

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 03:29 PM
1-2 Delap!

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 03:40 PM
See this is what I mean by weak referees, because the guy missed a stonewall one and had to be brought to the VAR monitor…he suddenly becomes hyper over corrective and gives a soft one the next moment. Don’t get me wrong, I’d like Ipswich to win the game (because I want them to stay up) but please a little bit of fucking consistency

Mac76
05-01-2025, 03:42 PM
See this is what I mean by weak referees, because the guy missed a stonewall one and had to be brought to the VAR monitor…he suddenly becomes hyper over corrective and gives a soft one the next moment. Don’t get me wrong, I’d like Ipswich to win the game (because I want them to stay up) but please a little bit of fucking consistency

They're consistently terrible tbf

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 03:47 PM
Pel for Fulham!

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 03:48 PM
Something something London Buses

Although I think this was another stonewall one

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 03:48 PM
2-2 Jimenez again!

Mac76
05-01-2025, 04:17 PM
2-2 shame for Ipswich

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 04:28 PM
They are a bit of the Luton of this season. Out of the three promoted sides they’ve shown by far the most fight despite scant resources…I’d have personally liked to have seen Reiss Nelson go there instead of Fulham as would have got more game time.

And ultimately like Luton I fear that it won’t be enough for them

Mac76
05-01-2025, 04:44 PM
Diaz :lol:

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 04:44 PM
Gakpo shoves it wide.

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 04:47 PM
Onana saves from Mac Allister.

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 04:50 PM
What did Diallo do.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 04:51 PM
Great defending by Diallo :lol:

Mac76
05-01-2025, 04:52 PM
How was that a foul by TAA?

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 04:53 PM
Stupid yellow from Dalot.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 04:53 PM
Great defending by Hojland :haha:

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:00 PM
Close from Gravenberch

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 05:13 PM
Alisson saves from Hojlund.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:14 PM
Hojland is hopeless

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 05:18 PM
0-0 HT.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:20 PM
0-0 HT, not great quality but end-to-end, Man Ure have actually had the better chances but messed them up, also defending quite well, Liverpool looking slightly off their game

They'll probably step it up second half though

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 05:38 PM
Oof bit risky from Onana.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:38 PM
Watching Andy Robertson reminds me of what Tierney could give us if Arteta actually liked left backs

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 05:41 PM
0-1 Martinez! Whoa!

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:41 PM
0-1 Martinez :lol:

Marc Overmars
05-01-2025, 05:42 PM
Oh dear.

Us. :lol:

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:45 PM
Oh dear.

Us. :lol:

Well if it stays like this we'll have gained a point on them FWIW

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:48 PM
Looks like Nunez and Jota coming on

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 05:48 PM
1-1 Gakpo.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:48 PM
1-1 Gakpo

Marc Overmars
05-01-2025, 05:49 PM
Inevitable.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:50 PM
Funny, Gakpo keeps scoring and yet HCZ says he's crap - I don't understand :shrug:

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:57 PM
Could be handball

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:58 PM
Yup, thought so...

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:58 PM
Really dumb from de Ligt

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 05:59 PM
Funny, Gakpo keeps scoring and yet HCZ says he's crap - I don't understand :shrug:

No I’ve said he’s average which he is. How many years was Aaron Ramsey with us and yet you can’t understand that even average players go on scoring runs.

Plus he’s scored one more in the league than Martinelli and we are largely all in agreement that Martinelli is having a poor season

Marc Overmars
05-01-2025, 05:59 PM
2-1 Salah

:rolleyes:

Mac76
05-01-2025, 05:59 PM
2-1 Salah pel, Onana nearly saved it

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 06:00 PM
2-1 Salah pel.

Crazy from De Ligt.

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 06:03 PM
I’m not watching this game, is SkySports doing its usual noisy slobbery blowjob on Liverpool now that they are in the lead ?

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 06:05 PM
2-1 Salah pel, Onana nearly saved it

Nearly saved it as in went the right way, didn’t look close to actually getting to the ball

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 06:06 PM
That's a red surely?

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 06:09 PM
2-2 Diallo!!

Mac76
05-01-2025, 06:09 PM
2-2 :lol:

Marc Overmars
05-01-2025, 06:12 PM
This kid is quite good.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 06:12 PM
Just look at the difference Garnacho makes, quality player

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 06:16 PM
Zirkzee redemption. :bow:

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 06:17 PM
I think Diallo and Garnacho are players that have great quality in them, but you don’t see it consistently enough. Now both are quite young and United is such a mess, it may be that it’s hard for them to get any kind of consistency but still

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 06:19 PM
Oof Onana.

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 06:26 PM
Maguire, what a miss!!

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 06:27 PM
2-2 FT. Mad game.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 06:27 PM
Macguire :ilt:

Marc Overmars
05-01-2025, 06:27 PM
As we were then.

Mac76
05-01-2025, 06:28 PM
Great second half, these games are always entertaining

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 06:30 PM
Forest away for Liverpool next in the league. :popcorn:

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 06:31 PM
I think I speak for everyone when I say Maguire you useless cunt

Letters
05-01-2025, 06:33 PM
No I’ve said he’s average which he is
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Letters
05-01-2025, 06:33 PM
I think I speak for everyone when I say Maguire you useless cunt

That’s pretty much always true

McNamara That Ghost...
05-01-2025, 06:39 PM
I think I speak for everyone when I say Maguire you useless cunt

Agreed but perhaps if Man Utd fans hadn't cheered Zirkzee off he'd have had the confidence to take it on himself.

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 06:40 PM
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Princess Bride on channel 5 again?

Love that film

And actually Inigo is wrong. Wallace Shawn does use the word inconceivable too much but actually always in the correct context :lol:

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 06:40 PM
That’s pretty much always true

Yeah but usually it’s said with mirth

Letters
05-01-2025, 06:43 PM
Princess Bride on channel 5 again?

Love that film

And actually Inigo is wrong. Wallace Shawn does use the word inconceivable too much but actually always in the correct context :lol:
That line always slightly annoys me because yes, he does always use the word correctly. :lol:
But anyway, I know people bandy the word “average” around but average compared to what or who?

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 06:48 PM
That line always slightly annoys me because yes, he does always use the word correctly. :lol:
But anyway, I know people bandy the word “average” around but average compared to what or who?

Average compared to a player that I would consider very good or great. I think Diaz for example is a far better player than Gakpo even if you factor in the headless chicken moments, the ball control and electric pace puts the shit up defenders


Now Ramsey, I think his reasonably good goal scoring record is what made him average. Without it he’d be poor, ball first touch, poor passing even when under no pressure….poor at reading the game, poor at tracking back

Letters
05-01-2025, 06:55 PM
Anyway. Good result today and keeps the glimmer of hope alive.
But honestly the number of opportunities we have missed to capitalise on Liverpool dropping points is getting a bit silly.

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 07:08 PM
Anyway. Good result today and keeps the glimmer of hope alive.
But honestly the number of opportunities we have missed to capitalise on Liverpool dropping points is getting a bit silly.

In some ways, it annoyed me more. But that said, if we won yesterday. Liverpool would have probably ended up slapping United about. I think Liverpool were complacent today, now that’s mainly because they anticipated a walkover against United but you also have to think they saw our result and the pressure was off

HCZ_Reborn
05-01-2025, 07:16 PM
From the snapshot highlights, a draw seems like the fairest outcome…both sides missed good chances

United looked the better team defensively, Liverpool looked well pretty open at the back but United lacked confidence to take good chances.

Gakpo’s goal was probably the best goal of the game in that it wasn’t a clear glaring opportunity but it was well struck and well taken. The penalty was a penalty all day long, I don’t really see how Michael Oliver couldn’t have seen that on the field (incompetent?)

Mac76
05-01-2025, 11:58 PM
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

:gp:

McNamara That Ghost...
06-01-2025, 08:53 PM
Wolves 0-2 Forest, Gibbs-White and Wood.

McNamara That Ghost...
06-01-2025, 09:52 PM
0-3 Forest, Awoniyi.

Marc Overmars
09-01-2025, 04:43 PM
Dyche has been sacked.

That 0-0 is going to annoy me no matter what happens this season.

21_GOONER_SALUTE
09-01-2025, 04:56 PM
Dyche has been sacked.

That 0-0 is going to annoy me no matter what happens this season.

Darn it....I really wanted him to do the same to Liverpool... now the fans will get their dream coach playing attacking Brazilian football and get beat 8-1 with Salah scoring five of those goals!

HCZ_Reborn
09-01-2025, 05:37 PM
Throat cancer boy gone?

Evidently the Everton board do think you can polish a turd

Again it exemplifies my point that people seem to think Managers have wizard like powers. I can’t stand the guy but he’s done an amazing job to keep that club away from relegation given the championship level absolute rancid shit in their squad.

There’s gratitude for you

Marc Overmars
09-01-2025, 08:21 PM
Moyes in contention to return. :lol:

IBK
10-01-2025, 10:13 AM
Throat cancer boy gone?

Evidently the Everton board do think you can polish a turd

Again it exemplifies my point that people seem to think Managers have wizard like powers. I can’t stand the guy but he’s done an amazing job to keep that club away from relegation given the championship level absolute rancid shit in their squad.

There’s gratitude for you

So, managers don't make substantive difference to teams' preformances, but Dyche has done an amazing job?

HCZ_Reborn
10-01-2025, 10:29 AM
So, managers don't make substantive difference to teams' preformances, but Dyche has done an amazing job?

When a team wins a major trophy it’s in the main because of the quality of the players. Real Madrid win countless UCL titles because of the ability of their players. Coaches like Ancelotti are distinctly hands off and don’t try to interfere too much


The same down the bottom, the clubs that are relegated have the weakest teams. And more likely a coach will have a negative impact than a positive. For example I cited Kompany yesterday, he naively thought he could get Burnley to play the same way in the premier league as the championship….and they were absolutely done over by teams as a result

Does this make Dyche a top coach that could do a great job with a top club…obviously not. But given what was available to him he did do a great job to stop them being relegated.

As I say you’re one of the few people on here who actually has some brains, and will argue honestly….although I thought your retort about British/English people not being smug/triumphalist a little weak (we all have our off days). You know full well what I’m saying about coaches…especially in this money driven day and age. I’d hope you aren’t being intellectually dishonest in order to point score.

Mac76
10-01-2025, 10:31 AM
Moyes in contention to return. :lol:

well he'll no doubt save them from relegation and continue their pointless existence bumping along near the bottom of the PL

HCZ_Reborn
10-01-2025, 10:38 AM
well he'll no doubt save them from relegation and continue their pointless existence bumping along near the bottom of the PL

I dunno you know, whilst I think Leicester and Southampton are gone. I think Ipswich and Wolves have shown that they aren’t ready to surrender yet. I think getting rid of Dyche was a bit of a panic move by a club that knows full well it can’t spend its way out of trouble. Moyes of course knows the club inside out but he’s not managed there for over a decade. This isn’t the team that he saved from relegation and built into a reasonably good team over the years.

But equally he doesn’t have a bad record of getting clubs in the shit into a measure of safety so who knows.

McNamara That Ghost...
10-01-2025, 08:38 PM
Moyes is indeed rejoining.