This Weekend's Fixtures (25/26 Jan)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saturday, 25th January 2025
Bournemouth v Nottingham Forest, 15:00
Brighton & Hove Albion v Everton, 15:00
Liverpool v Ipswich Town, 15:00
Southampton v Newcastle United, 15:00
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Arsenal, 15:00
Manchester City v Chelsea, 17:30 https://i.imgur.com/htwHZ0c.jpg

Sunday, 26th January 2025
Crystal Palace v Brentford, 14:00 https://i.imgur.com/htwHZ0c.jpg
Tottenham Hotspur v Leicester City, 14:00
Aston Villa v West Ham United, 16:30 https://i.imgur.com/htwHZ0c.jpg
Fulham v Manchester United, 19:00 https://i.imgur.com/tM2pRxb.png

[Letters]

:lol: Ipswich :rose:

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Brighton: Verbruggen, Veltman, Van Hecke, Dunk, Lamptey, Gruda, Baleba, Ayari, Mitoma, Joao Pedro, Welbeck
Subs: Rushworth, Webster, O'Riley, Adingra, Georginio, Minteh, Gomez, Hinshelwood, McConville

Everton: Pickford, O‘Brien, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko, Mangala, Gueye, Lindstrom, Doucoure, Ndiaye, Calvert-Lewin
Subs: Virginia, Begovic, Patterson, Keane, Harrison, Beto, Young, Garner, Armstrong

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Bournemouth: Kepa; Cook, Zabarnyi, Huijsen, Kerkez; Adams, Christie; Brooks, Kluivert, Semenyo; Ouattara.
Subs: Travers, Tavernier, Jebbison, Silcott-Duberry, Adu-Adjei, Akinmboni, Winterburn, Kinsey, Rees-Dottin.

Nottingham Forest: Sels; Aina, Milenkovic, Murillo, Williams; Yates, Anderson; Elanga, Gibbs-White, Silva; Wood.
Subs: Miguel, Morato, Awoniyi, Toffolo, Domínguez, Ward-Prowse, Moreno, Sosa, Boly.

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Southampton: McCarthy, Walker-Peters, Harwood-Bellis, Bednarek, Manning, Bree, Aribo, Ugochukwu, Fernandes, Armstrong, Fernandes, Onuachu.
Subs: Lumley, Downes, Smallbone, Lallana, Wiood, Sugawara, Archer, Fraser, Bella-Kotchap.

Newcastle: Dubravka, Livramento, Schar, Burn, Hall, Guimaraes, Tonali, Joelinton, Murphy, Isak, Gordon.
Subs: Pope, Trippier, Botman, Osula, Almiron, Kelly, Willock, Longstaff, Miley.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bournemouth 1-0 Forest, Kluivert!

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Southampton 1-0 Newcastle, Bednarek!

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Liverpool 1-0 Ipswich, Szoboszlai.

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Pelanty to Newcastle.

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Southampton 1-1 Newcastle, Isak

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Southampton 1-2 Newcastle, Isak again.

Derby's record. :rose:

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Liverpool 2-0 Ipswich, Salah.

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Pelanty for Everton.

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Brighton 0-1 Everton, Ndiaye.

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Liverpool 3-0 Ipswich, Gakpo.

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Southampton 1-3 Newcastle, Tonali.

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Bournemouth 2-0 Forest, Ouattara.

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Bournemouth 3-0 Forest, Kluivert again. :wacko:

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Oh it'll be disallowed, 2-0 it remains.

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Bournemouth 3-0 Forest, Outtara.

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4-0 Liverpool, Gakpo with his second.

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Bournemouth 4-0 Forest, Outtara hat-trick!

Iraola. :bow:

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5-0. WTF.

:haha:

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Liverpool 4-1 Ipswich. Comeback is on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Forest got done by 5??? WTF?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man City: Ederson, Nunes, Khusanov, Akanji, Gvardiol, Kovacic, Gundogan, Bernardo Silva, Foden, Marmoush, Haaland
Subs: Ortega, Stones, Grealish, De Bruyne, Reis, Savinho, O'Reilly, Lewis, McAtee

Chelsea: Sanchez, James, Colwill, Chalobah, Cucurella, Fernandez, Caicedo, Palmer, Madueke, Sancho, Jackson
Subs: Jorgensen, Disasi, Tosin, Neto, Nkunku, Dewsbury-Hall, Gusto, Acheampong, Guiu

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Forest got done by 5??? WTF?

A week after Bournemouth shat on Newcastle 1-4 also.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Bournemouth are having an exceptional season. They play football the right way too…so absolutely fair play to them

[Niall_Quinn]

A week after Bournemouth shat on Newcastle 1-4 also.

Liverpool visit next I think, so keep it up lads!

[Niall_Quinn]

Bournemouth are having an exceptional season. They play football the right way too…so absolutely fair play to them

Slipped under my radar, know nothing about them except they usually give us a tough game.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Man City vs Chelsea. Apart from hoping a stray Iranian missile hits the stadium wiping out both sets of players, coaches and owners. What would be the best result. A draw im thinking. I expect City to win though despite the midweek defeat at PSG

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 Madueke!

Horrendous from their new defender.

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He has a yellow now. :lol:

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Dreadful from Palmer, they were clean through!

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Foden smacks the post.

[Marc Overmars]

I’m interested to see what we do against City next week. They’re so vulnerable but I bet we’ll still give them too much respect and set out to be spoilers as usual.

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20 year old CB and throw him straight in to this.

Floundering stuff from Pep.

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Gvardiol. :haha:

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Disallowed goal for Marmoush

Shot after shot.

[Niall_Quinn]

Great defending by Marmoush, his teammate was in there.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea have retreated massively and I don't really get why.

Any time they come forward they can get through the Citeh midfield.

[Letters]

Man City vs Chelsea. Apart from hoping a stray Iranian missile hits the stadium wiping out both sets of players, coaches and owners. What would be the best result. A draw im thinking. I expect City to win though despite the midweek defeat at PSG

Yeah, draw is the best result.
We don’t want City getting any momentum and we don’t want Chelsea winning

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Gvardiol just wide!

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Man City 1-1 Chelsea, Gvardiol.

Embarrassing from Chelsea.

[Niall_Quinn]

1-1

City have totally changed their style of play. It's quite entertaining. Then again, the chavs are dire.

[Niall_Quinn]

What were the gypos saying about us when we trounced them in that game the ref cheated in? Just like Stoke?

Well they are playing like 80s Wimbledon today. HOOF!

Much prefer it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 HT.

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Haaland shot, Sanchez saves.

The defences here. :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Back to pepball vs pepball - what a bore.

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Mamoush misses again.

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Man City 2-1 Chelsea.

What the fuck is Sanchez doing? :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

And back to Wimbledon and they get a goal. Chavs 1-2 Gypos, the big girly scored it.

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Isn't that a red?

[Niall_Quinn]

Surely that's a straight red, especially given VAR, Dean and the PL all confirming the new rule? Or is that it now? The rule has already been rescinded the moment after it popped into existence to be used against us?

[Niall_Quinn]

That chav should be credited for staying on his feet in the box - most would have tumbled screaming and clutching their head.

[Niall_Quinn]

Kovitic the once unbookable player gets booked for participating in Palmer's pre-planned dive.

[Marc Overmars]

Sanchez is so bad.

Have no idea how he’s their number one.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man City 3-1 Chelsea, Foden.

Oh dear.

[Niall_Quinn]

We now have ZERO chance in the match next week, regardless of how we play. They aren't going to pass up on a gypo comeback to inject some hype and feed the gambling habits.

[Niall_Quinn]

Some of the superstars can't kick a ball, they are total shite.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man City 3-1 Chelsea, FT.

Chelsea. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Halaand is a seriously weird looking git. Creepy as fuck.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The talk of Palmer being the best player in the league died quickly.

The new Bergkamp. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

The talk of Palmer being the best player in the league died quickly.

The new Bergkamp. :bow:

I noticed that. He's really ordinary. And slow. Maybe he's injured, at least he played as if he is.

[dazthegooner]

He’s a flat track bully take away free kicks and penalties his isn’t up to much.

[Mac76]

He’s a flat track bully take away free kicks and penalties his isn’t up to much.

Especially against the better teams

[Mac76]

Btw two goals and an assist for Gakpo yesterday, not bad for an 'overrated' player :haha:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Btw two goals and an assist for Gakpo yesterday, not bad for an 'overrated' player :haha:

Huh, I’m actually surprised it took you this long to make that comment

Also I think I made the point that I don’t regard him as overrated purely because you’re the only person I ever hear of who rates him that highly. Liverpool fans? They like him sure but I hear more about Salah, Diaz, Jota, Jones etc

But you’ll be equally surprised to learn that my opinion of him hasn’t drastically shifted as a result of a brace against Ipswich. Strange that

[HCZ_Reborn]

Sunday afternoon fixtures have started, must admit have absolute minimal interest barring an amusing upset for Leicester against Spurs.

Also I don’t like fixtures being played at 19:00 on a Sunday night (Fulham vs United), doesn’t feel right. But then I don’t like Saturday fixtures played at 20:00 or for that matter Friday evening fixtures


You play Saturday 15:00 or failing that Saturday lunchtime, Saturday teatime. Or Sunday afternoon. None of this Sunday lunchtime nonsense either. Monday night football is ok because that’s an established tradition.


Add that to the rest of the things I don’t like about the footballing calendar.

- Champions League fixtures in January

- FA cup midweek games (they are for replays only)

- Staggering the last 16 fixtures in the Champions League

- FA cup finals before the season has ended or moved to 17:30 kick off

- World cups in winter

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They can't play that game on Saturday lunchtime, when it normally would be due to Man Utd's involvement in the Europa League.

And because it's the TNT game they can't just swap that in to the other slots today either.

There's nowhere else to put it and avoid a clash barring it be at 18:30.

Of course TNT could have just not chosen this game, knowing Man Utd were in the Europa League.

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Tottenham 1-0 Leicester, Richarlison.

[Mac76]

Of course TNT could have just not chosen this game, knowing Man Utd were in the Europa League.

That would require a) common sense and b) the realisation that Man Ure aren't a big club anymore...

...the same as Spuds in fact, who of course R5live have as their chosen commentary RN even though they're 15th in the table...

[HCZ_Reborn]

They can't play that game on Saturday lunchtime, when it normally would be due to Man Utd's involvement in the Europa League.

And because it's the TNT game they can't just swap that in to the other slots today either.

There's nowhere else to put it and avoid a clash barring it be at 18:30.

Of course TNT could have just not chosen this game, knowing Man Utd were in the Europa League.

You’ve encapsulated the problem. That it’s all about the broadcasters and what they want

[HCZ_Reborn]

That would require a) common sense and b) the realisation that Man Ure aren't a big club anymore...

...the same as Spuds in fact, who of course R5live have as their chosen commentary RN even though they're 15th in the table...

I’d argue it’s the fact that they are 15th in the table (which is especially low even for them) and whilst unlikely, their current form means Leicester who are battling for survival have a chance, makes it a more compelling fixture than Crystal Palace and Brentford. Both Palace and Brentford will be happy with a draw, so it’s more likely to be a stodgy, attritional game

Man United are currently in a bit of a death spiral with Amorim already. He was definitely appointed by the board with a long term view but whilst I don’t think they were expecting dramatic improvement over night relative to what was going on under Ten Haag, they couldn’t possibly have anticipated things would get this bad.

Plus United in terms of talent are nowhere, but they still have one of the biggest fan bases in the country. Plus for the casual observer it’s still a kick to see them struggle.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 Vardy.

[HCZ_Reborn]

1-1 Vardy.

Looks like 5 Live were right to prioritise this game after all :lol:

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1-2 Leicester, El Khannouss.

:haha:

[HCZ_Reborn]

1-2 Leicester, El Khannouss.

:haha:

Oh my :haha:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Leicester fans chanting “How shit must you be, we’re winning away”

I hope they stay up just for that :lol:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Take away the hilarity of Spurs losing this game. I think this result (assuming it stays that way which is a big IF) could be good for the league. I’ve said a lot about how badly it would reflect on the apparent stratification of the league if the three promoted clubs go down again. Southampton I think we can all agree are fucked, but Ipswich have shown twinges of life at times (beating Chelsea for instance) and if Leicester can do something. It pulls Wolves into a real dog fight against those two.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Spurs have before today dropped 18 points from winning positions

3 against us
3 against Brighton
3 against Chelsea
3 against Newcastle
2 against Fulham
2 against Wolves
2 against Leicester

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Palace 0-1 Brentford, Mbuemo pelanty.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Oh and Mbeumo puts Brentford ahead at Palace. Pel that was re-taken, he hit the post with the first one

I was about to say that would be their first away win of the season but they won 5-0 at Southampton (that doesn’t really count though :lol:)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Palace 0-2 Brentford, Schade.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Palace 1-2 Brentford, Esse.

[Niall_Quinn]

The spuds are really, really poor. It's quite remarkable the extent to which they have fucked things up over the last few years. Same with Utd. They have everything going for them and haven't pressed a single advantage. These two represent the lowest bar possible and when we measure ourselves against them I suppose it's not so bad being an Arsenal fan. Of course we always want more, but at least we aren't them, right?

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Likely Ange will get the sack today...shame as I really like his persona.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Likely Ange will get the sack today...shame as I really like his persona.

Maybe

Maybe they’ll wait until after the 2nd leg of the Carabao cup to see if he genuinely does always win things in his second season :lol:

[HCZ_Reborn]

The spuds are really, really poor. It's quite remarkable the extent to which they have fucked things up over the last few years. Same with Utd. They have everything going for them and haven't pressed a single advantage. These two represent the lowest bar possible and when we measure ourselves against them I suppose it's not so bad being an Arsenal fan. Of course we always want more, but at least we aren't them, right?

Yep pretty much

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Spuds 1-2 Leicester, FT.

It fucking happened.

Dr. Tottenham really knows no limits in being able to treat the afflicted.

Leicester came in with 7 league defeats in a row. :haha:

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Maybe

Maybe they’ll wait until after the 2nd leg of the Carabao cup to see if he genuinely does always win things in his second season :lol:

Levy has already exercised unbelievable patience with him, I am not sure the fanbase will allow any more....

[Mac76]

Spuds :haha:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Levy has already exercised unbelievable patience with him, I am not sure the fanbase will allow any more....

I think the fanbase are more annoyed with Levy, but you’re right that he could well push him under the bus to save himself

Of course I say that but this run of theirs is on Postecoglou, yeah they’ve had injury problems but so have we. He’s the kind of guy who is all convivial when everything is going well, but some of his post match interviews he’s been a bit of a prick. He took exception to interviewer saying same old story after Everton game, let’s be fair you’d lost three in a row…that’s not an unreasonable statement

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Their fans were happy enough to miss out on the Champions League last season so they can go fuck themselves tbf.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Their fans were happy enough to miss out on the Champions League last season so they can go fuck themselves tbf.

I don’t think they had much say in the matter truth be told :lol:

I did speak to some Spurs fans before the game. They basically stated that they wanted to win every game, but they thought city would beat them anyway and they could live with that if it denied us the title

They basically felt they’d fucked their own chances of finishing 4th in previous games

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nah it would have been very, very close if they had won that one but they preferred being defeatist.

Now they're getting that with regularity.

Such a shame. :lol:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Nah it would have been very, very close if they had won that one but they preferred being defeatist.

Now they're getting that with regularity.

Such a shame. :lol:

If they’d won for sure. The point is they didn’t think they had any chance of winning. I remember that game, I don’t think Spurs played within themselves…they played defensively for sure but they did try and create things on the counter. I don’t think a lukewarm crowd made a difference

Also what would we have done in the same circumstances? Spurs winning the league would make me more nauseated than I will be when this Liverpool side wins it

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Then we'd deserve what comes our way too.

It'd suck, it'd really suck but I'll always want what is directly best for us as a club, not necessarily what just makes me feel a bit better about things.

[Niall_Quinn]

I fear for their justification to bake cakes.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Then we'd deserve what comes our way too.

It'd suck, it'd really suck but I'll always want what is directly best for us as a club, not necessarily what just makes me feel a bit better about things.


Nah

Don’t get me wrong if by beating an opponent meant us getting The title and Spurs finishing 4th, I’d be all for that without losing a second of sleep

But for me top 4 as an achievement shows the perverse nature of football currently, and it’s simply not enough to want to play any part in Spurs winning a major honour.


Go back to 1991, if we weren’t already cantering to the title and we put out a weaker side against that lot in the semi finals I could have lived with that because the league is a bigger prize.


But going for top 4 which guarantees nothing when it could hand your hated rivals the title….the upside is just not enough

[Marc Overmars]

Spurs. :haha:

13 defeats out of 23 is a joke. Even with their massive injury list you can’t be that easy to beat.

They must be waiting to see what happens with the cup semi final before ditching Ange because they’re genuinely heading for a relegation battle at this rate.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What upside do they have currently?

[Niall_Quinn]

What upside do they have currently?

They once went 2-1 up against us for 15 minutes? Not to be sniffed at.

[Niall_Quinn]

Spurs. :haha:

13 defeats out of 23 is a joke. Even with their massive injury list you can’t be that easy to beat.

They must be waiting to see what happens with the cup semi final before ditching Ange because they’re genuinely heading for a relegation battle at this rate.

Nah, unfortunately they won't go down. Too many really terrible teams in this league for that. Same with Utd. 20 years ago both those sides would be bottom with zero points. But not in this league of mercs.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Villa 1-0 West Ham, Ramsey.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Disallowed goal for Rogers.

West Ham are in for a pumping it looks like.

[Niall_Quinn]

Nah

Don’t get me wrong if by beating an opponent meant us getting The title and Spurs finishing 4th, I’d be all for that without losing a second of sleep

But for me top 4 as an achievement shows the perverse nature of football currently, and it’s simply not enough to want to play any part in Spurs winning a major honour.


Go back to 1991, if we weren’t already cantering to the title and we put out a weaker side against that lot in the semi finals I could have lived with that because the league is a bigger prize.


But going for top 4 which guarantees nothing when it could hand your hated rivals the title….the upside is just not enough

Cash - they are all playing for cash. Not the shirt.

Am I wrong?

Can we think of a single player who is so invested in his club he'd forgo the crazy wages, get a part-time job and supplement his earning with the privilege of the pennies he earned from playing for his boyhood heroes? That doesn't happen anymore and our society is 100% poorer for it. Not like I'm saying there weren't greedy bastards back then who though, lovely, this silly fool is playing for the shirt, more cash for me! Yeah, they were there. But I'm talking about the relationship between the player and the unwashed fan who does silly things like turn up n the icy rain to shout, GO ON [fill in name of local boy who they knew from the pub].

Okay, the world has moved on. We can't have that anymore because corporations have decided we need to do something different that unfortunately rips away the deep bonds and replaces it with the profit incentive. Realism, right? The acceptance of an evil cunt's agenda when nothing was broken in the first place. Get realistic, accept the world for how it is, stop harking back to times that can't possibly exists because (in the scheme of evolution) we are suddenly different creatures? Sorry, not buying. Fuck them and fuck them all. I know what shit stinks like because I have my own shit to compare it to. I woudn't grab it up and offer it as a great leap forward. I'd be to embarrassed in case intelligent people saw right through it. Trouble is we are short on intelligent people.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Trouble is we are short on intelligent people.

Funnily enough I had that thought when reading your diatribe which I’m not sure even how much it related to anything I was discussing, and wasn’t just you using as an excuse to plant your world view/rose tinted view of the past.

I wouldn’t take it personally. I have that feeling when talking to most people here.

But I’d have as much interest as buying into whatever “Utopia” you aspire to as I would signing up to those online games that pretend you can win $50 by just playing on them for ten minutes.

I don’t remember a time where football wasn’t a commodity. I was born a month into the season when clubs started wearing corporate sponsors on their shirts. I think trying to pinpoint any one moment in time where greed wasn’t a factor and fans not encouraged to buy into that greed and then suddenly it all changed is utterly arbitrary.

The difference as far as I can ever distill from your homilies is that you believe that clandestine forces operate in order to change human nature from its intended purpose. I think avarice is a key component in human nature especially in a world of scarcity

[Letters]

Nah, unfortunately they won't go down. Too many really terrible teams in this league for that. Same with Utd. 20 years ago both those sides would be bottom with zero points. But not in this league of mercs.

Yeah.
They’re too far above the relegation zone to get sucked in.
And actually I wouldn’t actually want them to go down, I’d miss their hilarious ineptitude. There’d be a danger they could actually win the Championships.

But holy shit how are they this hopeless?
What’s that, Leicester? In freefall are you?
Dr Tottenham will see you now :lol:

WHL much have broken the Guinness World Record for booing volume today

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mings' knee looks fucked.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Paqueta. :lol:

Twat.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Villa 1-1 West Ham, Emerson!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Villa 1-1 West Ham, FT. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fulham: Leno, Castagne, Andersen, Bassey, Robinson, Lukic, Berge, Wilson, Smith Rowe, Iwobi, Jimenez.
Subs: Benda, Reed, Rodrigo Muniz, Cairney, Traore, Cuenca, Andreas Pereira, King, Diop.

Man Utd: Onana, de Ligt, Maguire, Martinez, Mazraoui, Ugarte, Fernandes, Dalot, Diallo, Garnacho, Hojlund.
Subs: Bayindir, Lindelof, Zirkzee, Malacia, Eriksen, Yoro, Casemiro, Mainoo, Collyer.

Convinced Fulham will win this one.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Fulham: Leno, Castagne, Andersen, Bassey, Robinson, Lukic, Berge, Wilson, Smith Rowe, Iwobi, Jimenez.
Subs: Benda, Reed, Rodrigo Muniz, Cairney, Traore, Cuenca, Andreas Pereira, King, Diop.

Man Utd: Onana, de Ligt, Maguire, Martinez, Mazraoui, Ugarte, Fernandes, Dalot, Diallo, Garnacho, Hojlund.
Subs: Bayindir, Lindelof, Zirkzee, Malacia, Eriksen, Yoro, Casemiro, Mainoo, Collyer.

Convinced Fulham will win this one.

I’m convinced Fulham should win this one but just as Ten Haag would get himself results to save himself I think that might be the case here. United seem better when they are playing away from home.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Iwobi shot, Onana saves, in a particularly Onana way.

[Niall_Quinn]

Funnily enough I had that thought when reading your diatribe which I’m not sure even how much it related to anything I was discussing, and wasn’t just you using as an excuse to plant your world view/rose tinted view of the past.

I wouldn’t take it personally. I have that feeling when talking to most people here.

But I’d have as much interest as buying into whatever “Utopia” you aspire to as I would signing up to those online games that pretend you can win $50 by just playing on them for ten minutes.

I don’t remember a time where football wasn’t a commodity. I was born a month into the season when clubs started wearing corporate sponsors on their shirts. I think trying to pinpoint any one moment in time where greed wasn’t a factor and fans not encouraged to buy into that greed and then suddenly it all changed is utterly arbitrary.

The difference as far as I can ever distill from your homilies is that you believe that clandestine forces operate in order to change human nature from its intended purpose. I think avarice is a key component in human nature especially in a world of scarcity

Utopia? That's what you are calling documented history now? It ain't broken so let's fix it, and when it turns to abject shit - well what do you expect, it's not like it's possible to have what we had before we fixed it? If you can't distinguish the difference between football in the 70s, 80s, 90s and progressively then it's because you aren't trying. And you can conjure up all the secret cabals you want and then try to pin them on me, while I'll continue to report on the unchecked march of human greed. My explanation is far more credible than the one you have to invent for me so you can apologise for your lack of interest in the steady decline of everything worthwhile. I said lack of intelligence, but complacency is another cancer.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Terrible quality.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Utopia? That's what you are calling documented history now? It ain't broken so let's fix it, and when it turns to abject shit - well what do you expect, it's not like it's possible to have what we had before we fixed it? If you can't distinguish the difference between football in the 70s, 80s, 90s and progressively then it's because you aren't trying. And you can conjure up all the secret cabals you want and then try to pin them on me, while I'll continue to report on the unchecked march of human greed. My explanation is far more credible than the one you have to invent for me so you can apologise for your lack of interest in the steady decline of everything worthwhile. I said lack of intelligence, but complacency is another cancer.

What I’m saying is you’re not an objective observer either with football or anything else about what’s gotten worse.

Not that I suppose anyone really is. I’m not trying to label you as anything, I’m often trying to derive a point to your monologues which seem to me to be little else but bemoaning the loss of a state of affairs that I’m not sure ever truly existed to begin with.

That you and I have incredibly different ideals is simply a statement of fact.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-0 HT. That was horrendous.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Traore is on.

Do something for once bodybuilder.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Why does Martinez keep doing that double leg stamp challenge?

[HCZ_Reborn]

Why does Martinez keep doing that double leg stamp challenge?

Because he’s a horrible cunt?

The question is why does he keep getting away with it ?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ugarte. :lol:

Another scrote.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Because he’s a horrible cunt?

The question is why does he keep getting away with it ?

Not aggressive enough for the officials.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Traore boots it over.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fulham 0-1 Man Utd, Martinez. :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Collyer off the line!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fulham 0-2 Man Utd, Diallo.

For now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And it's offside. 0-1 it remains.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fulham 0-1 Man Utd, FT.

My sense of the result was slightly off here. :lol:

Both deserved to lose tbf.

[Letters]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/noO01t0iQQ0

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