Transfers

[ants arsenal]

I've posted here before, but I can’t remember my username or password, and the registered email address must have been an old work one. So I've registered again.

Guys, I don’t think you are being fair to Wenger/ the Board here.

Looking at the cash we got for outgoing players – then adding the wages saved by getting them off the books, and comparing that to the transfers we made, and the cash committed to paying those wages for the duration of the new contracts – looks like this (very roughly)

Original Kitty £35M

Clichey £7M+ (52*55k) = £9.86 M
Fabregas £35M+(208*110k) = £57.88 M
Nasri £25M+(52*90k) = £29.68 M
Traore £1M+(104*£20k) = £3.08 M
Eboue £3M+(104*£50k) = 8.2M
*Denilson (52*50k) = £2.6M
*Lansbury (52*15k) = £1.04M
*Campbell (52*15k) = £780k
*Bendy (52*60k) = £3.224M

Total Free Cash £153,424,000


Jenkinson £1M+ (208*20k) = £5.16 M
Oxlade £12M+(208*25k) = £17.2 M
Gervinho £10M+(208*50k) = £20.4 M
Arteta £10M +(208*90k) = 28.72M
Santos £6.7M+(208*£50k) = £17.1 M
Mertesacker £8.8M+(208*£80k) = 25.44M
Benayoun (52*80k) = £4.16M
Campbell £1M +(208*15k) = £4.12M
Park £3M +(104*£40k)= £7.08M

Stadium Debt £25M

Total Committed Cash £154,380,000


• Denotes loaned player, so assume we just save one year of wages.
• (52*60k) = (wk X salary)

Genius if you ask me – we have invested in youth we can sell for a profit in the future, and added much needed defensive cover and experience where needed. The squad looks good.

I’ve missed Giles Sunu, and the Champs league money isn’t in the bank yet, so we should take enough funds into the January window for M’Vila if Song/ Frimpong don’t work out.

And with a bit of luck Almunia, Chamakh & Sqillaci could be added to the departures!!

We are never gonna sign a Kaka or a Messi, and as you can see, not a bad transfer window considering we balanced the books almost exactly.

The only really scandalous f*ck-up was that it couldn’t have all been done in June!!

Now the season has started, let’s get behind them all – In Arsene we trust

[gunnerrrrr]

I've posted here before, but I can’t remember my username or password, and the registered email address must have been an old work one. So I've registered again.

Guys, I don’t think you are being fair to Wenger/ the Board here.

Looking at the cash we got for outgoing players – then adding the wages saved by getting them off the books, and comparing that to the transfers we made, and the cash committed to paying those wages for the duration of the new contracts – looks like this (very roughly)

Original Kitty £35M

Clichey £7M+ (52*55k) = £9.86 M
Fabregas £35M+(208*110k) = £57.88 M
Nasri £25M+(52*90k) = £29.68 M
Traore £1M+(104*£20k) = £3.08 M
Eboue £3M+(104*£50k) = 8.2M
*Denilson (52*50k) = £2.6M
*Lansbury (52*15k) = £1.04M
*Campbell (52*15k) = £780k
*Bendy (52*60k) = £3.224M

Total Free Cash £153,424,000


Jenkinson £1M+ (208*20k) = £5.16 M
Oxlade £12M+(208*25k) = £17.2 M
Gervinho £10M+(208*50k) = £20.4 M
Arteta £10M +(208*90k) = 28.72M
Santos £6.7M+(208*£50k) = £17.1 M
Mertesacker £8.8M+(208*£80k) = 25.44M
Benayoun (52*80k) = £4.16M
Campbell £1M +(208*15k) = £4.12M
Park £3M +(104*£40k)= £7.08M

Stadium Debt £25M

Total Committed Cash £154,380,000


• Denotes loaned player, so assume we just save one year of wages.
• (52*60k) = (wk X salary)

Genius if you ask me – we have invested in youth we can sell for a profit in the future, and added much needed defensive cover and experience where needed. The squad looks good.

I’ve missed Giles Sunu, and the Champs league money isn’t in the bank yet, so we should take enough funds into the January window for M’Vila if Song/ Frimpong don’t work out.

And with a bit of luck Almunia, Chamakh & Sqillaci could be added to the departures!!

We are never gonna sign a Kaka or a Messi, and as you can see, not a bad transfer window considering we balanced the books almost exactly.

The only really scandalous f*ck-up was that it couldn’t have all been done in June!!

Now the season has started, let’s get behind them all – In Arsene we trust

PHW in disguise?

Please also run the number for the last few years, including the Ade and Toure sale...also show me how the above helps when you have a manager who is tactically useless and stubborn.

I would also like to know how balancing the books is going to redress the humiliation of being spanked 8-2...yes 8-2 by our once rivals.

We shall not even go onto the trophy drought....

So many more points i could add, but i am sure other will

[Ironing]

Point 1

Why was the original "kitty" 35M - where are you getting that from, and how do you know it is accurate? This is key. We made £56m pre-tax profit last year ALONE (this includes the debt repayments...)

According to http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2003-2011.html (which I wouldn't rely on anyway...) since 2003 our net spend on transfers has been - (MINUS) £24 million. I.e. We've sold more than we've spent. Most clubs have a POSITIVE net spend (yes, even shit ones like Stoke & Bolton), so quite frankly I find it AMAZING that our entire transfer budget amassed over all these years of spending fuck all, is £35m.

Also I won't go into your wages / sale fees / knowledge about who is paying who's salary on the loans, I'll take your word for it...

Point 2

Why have you factored in the stadium debt into the incoming transfers? By doing so you imply that the only way the stadium debt is financed is through the sale of players and from the (dubious) transfer "kitty" alone, rather than through commercial revenue. Surely if anything, the "kitty" is money that is left over after ALL our outgoings, including the debt repayments.

there are probably more points but honestly I don't have the time. It's midnight.

edit: WTF I just saw that you didn't even include the CL qualification money

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[Marc Overmars]

Stopped caring about the financial state of this club a while ago.

Well, I stopped trying to understand what the fuck was going on.

All I care about is what happens on the pitch and from where I'm standing it ain't good.

[toothless gibbon]

Isn't Arteta on 55k a week?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Isn't Arteta on 55k a week?

Yep, he took a pay cut to come here.

What a shite thread :coffee:

[Niall_Quinn]

ants arsenal = stan arsenal = Stan Kroenke = coming here to pretend the money hasn't vanished = coming here to take the fans for fools = GTFO!

And spend some fucking money!

[Joker]

The problem is this club is more interested in balancing the books than trying to achieve success on the pitch.

[Joker]

not a bad transfer window considering we balanced the books almost exactly.

The bean counters may think so, but footballistically it's been a dreadful transfer window. We're considerably weaker in terms of quality than when the window opened.

[Champagne Charlie]

as you can see, not a bad transfer window considering we balanced the books almost exactly.


Yeah, who cares about the fact that our first 11 is considerably weaker than it was last season, we balanced the books. Woo.

I'd have been furious if we had significantly improved the squad and ended up with a net loss. I'm also delighted by the fact that I have to pay more for my season ticket this year.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah, who cares about the fact that our first 11 is considerably weaker than it was last season, we balanced the books. Woo.

I'd have been furious if we had significantly improved the squad and ended up with a net loss. I'm also delighted by the fact that I have to pay more for my season ticket this year.

A true fan.

Love PHW xxx

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

The problem is this club is more interested in balancing the books than trying to achieve success on the pitch.

Unfortunately a malady shared by a lot of so-called Arsenal fans.

[Darth Vela]

The bean counters may think so, but footballistically it's been a dreadful transfer window. We're considerably weaker in terms of quality than when the window opened.

Yes, but considerably stronger in terms of experience and committed players, along with players who actually have a better spread of talents, things we were noticeably lacking last year; I think we should have spent more and we should have done it considerably earlier but 'dreadful' doesn't even come close to how it ended.