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GP
27-07-2012, 07:57 AM
Should I report myself for challenging you or do you want to do it again?

your gay haha lol

V-Pig
27-07-2012, 08:28 AM
your gay haha lol

:crying:

LDG
27-07-2012, 09:07 AM
:haha:

Xhaka Can’t
27-07-2012, 11:28 AM
:haha:

Joker
27-07-2012, 11:31 AM
He's our best defender IMO (although not without faults). Ideally Koscielny-Mertesacker will be our starting pair next season, but as Vermaelen will be captain I expect he'll start with Kos, although I have doubts about him.

Xhaka Can’t
27-07-2012, 11:32 AM
That is true, but not funny in the slightest.

IBK
27-07-2012, 11:32 AM
He's our best defender IMO (although not without faults). Ideally Koscielny-Mertesacker will be our starting pair next season, but as Vermaelen will be captain I expect he'll start with Kos, although I have doubts about him.

Kossy pisses on Verms TBH; BBC; KFC; BBW.

Joker
27-07-2012, 11:49 AM
Kossy pisses on Verms TBH; BBC; KFC; BBW.

True

Master Splinter
27-07-2012, 03:40 PM
With Sagna in a coma alongside Willspear, maybe we could see a return of Koscielny at right-back for a few weeks, with Vermsacker/Mertmaelen in the centre. Would certainly cause less potential heart attacks on GW than GHELkinson's inclusion.

Syn
27-07-2012, 03:53 PM
Coquelin at RB would do a job. Vermaelen will be in the starting line-up and rightly so IMO. I know it's fashionable to criticise him (for reasons that I haven't understood yet) but he is a fine defender and a leader. Koscielny is the better CB and shouldn't be moved from that position. Coquelin can do a job. I wouldn't mind Jenkinson though in all honesty. Get the gooners into the arsenal line-up.

GP
27-07-2012, 04:01 PM
Nothing wrong with GHELkers

Syn
27-07-2012, 04:04 PM
Nothing wrong with GHELkers

Indeed.

Or Cordo tbf.

GP
27-07-2012, 04:13 PM
Indeed.

Or Cordo tbf.

http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab280/Hardcore_Hector/Memes/face_no.jpg

Cripps_orig
27-07-2012, 09:41 PM
Arsenal (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/teams/england/94/arsenal) defender Laurent Koscielny (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/people/france/31471/laurent-koscielny) has revealed that he rejected any interest from Barcelona (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/teams/spain/125/barcelona)to sign a new five-year deal with the club.

The 26-year-old arrived at the north London side from Ligue 1 club Lorient in 2010 and came under criticism for his performances.

Last season saw the France international become one of the club's outstanding defenders and despite interest from the Catalan giants, he wants to remain under the guidance of manager Arsene Wenger.

When asked if he knew about interest from Barcelona, Koscielny told L'Equipe: "Yes of course and frankly it is flattering.

"But at Arsenal I have everything; I have a great training centre, a wonderful stadium and an amazing group.

"I am so happy to have signed a new contract until 2017. It means a lot, notably that the club has a lot of trust in me.

The Frenchman also stated that his ambition is to emulate the success that other French players that were at the club before him.

"I really want to grow here as Thierry Henry, Patrick Vieira and some others did,” Koscielny added.

Great news

fakeyank
27-07-2012, 10:34 PM
With Sagna in a coma alongside Willspear, maybe we could see a return of Koscielny at right-back for a few weeks, with Vermsacker/Mertmaelen in the centre. Would certainly cause less potential heart attacks on GW than GHELkinson's inclusion.

You forget Djourou on the right

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/240/e/b/laughing_meme_guy_by_vixenwolfie-d485kw0.png

Cripps_orig
15-08-2012, 01:39 PM
Arsenal defender Laurent Koscielny has stated that he is highly satisfied with life at the Emirates Stadium having signed a long-term contract extension in July.

The France international impressed during the 2011-12 campaign as the Gunners finished third in the Premier League and says he has everything he needs at the club.

"I am happy here - I play for a big club, I am happy on the pitch and my family are happy here so I don't want to leave," Koscielny told Arsenal's official website.

"This is the first club I have stayed at for more than two years. I want to stay because I have everything [I need] to be happy here.

"I like everyone who works at this club, I like the fans, I am very happy to play for the boss and my team-mates are nice, so my decision to stay was natural."

The 26-year old believes that his team-mates have learned from the mistakes that were made last season and hopes the Gunners can start the 2012-13 campaign in more positive fashion.

Arsenal stumbled out of the blocks this time last year and went on to suffer a humiliating 8-2 defeat to Manchester United during the opening weeks.

"If we start well, we can get into the race for the title," he claimed. "We saw last year that we had some difficulties at the start of the season, but afterwards you saw the real team.

"You need to work together, win together and help team-mates, and if [the start to] the season is good we can do something in the league."

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/08/15/3308531/koscielny-sees-long-term-future-at-arsenal

Hope he continues on his form from the last couple of months of last season for Arsenals sake and more importantly for my FFL side

Kano
10-09-2012, 12:07 PM
surely id sagna says this in pubmic, then his views are well knoun throuchout the squad already. so it would have no effect at all on an

Cripps_orig
29-09-2012, 02:02 PM
Hate being proved right :(

McNamara That Ghost...
29-09-2012, 02:02 PM
Stop posting then.

Olivier's xmas twist
29-09-2012, 02:03 PM
Hate being proved right :(

People are pissed off and upset do you really need to wum now dude?

Cripps_orig
29-09-2012, 02:04 PM
That wont stop me being proved right tbf

milla
29-09-2012, 02:09 PM
That wont stop me being proved right tbf

You are a proven **** Ach, no offence intended. :coffee:

Cripps_orig
29-09-2012, 02:09 PM
People are pissed off and upset do you really need to wum now dude?

But its ok for you and others to do so about Theo?

A player who didnt even start?

Cripps_orig
29-09-2012, 02:10 PM
You are a proven **** Ach, no offence intended. :coffee:

:hug:

Youre hurting, i understand that. You were one of the many who thought Kos is the best in the business and being proved wrong cant feel too good. I wouldnt know cos i never am tbh

No offence taken

Olivier's xmas twist
29-09-2012, 02:13 PM
But its ok for you and others to do so about Theo?

A player who didnt even start?

So me saying give the lad a chance is wumming. Don't confuse me with NQ please.

milla
29-09-2012, 02:22 PM
:hug:

Youre hurting, i understand that. You were one of the many who thought Kos is the best in the business and being proved wrong cant feel too good. I wouldnt know cos i never am tbh

No offence taken

No I am not hurting. I am not in who and which is the best CBs pairing band wagon. But any 5 years old can say "look I am right again". It is a football forum, it is good to WUM every once a while but not repeating the same thing every time.

Seriously, if you dont have input to give, then is is better to take 10 minutes and think about positive criticism. I take no pleasure from you being right or wrong but please write something more than.. "hate being proven right" it made you look childish and outright arrogant ****. :coffee:

Cripps_orig
29-09-2012, 02:23 PM
Its arrogant cos i hate being right?

Do you know what arrogant means?

Ollie the Optimist
29-09-2012, 02:23 PM
No I am not hurting. I am not in who and which is the best CBs pairing band wagon. But any 5 years old can say "look I am right again". It is a football forum, it is good to WUM every once a while but not repeating the same thing every time.

Seriously, if you dont have input to give, then is is better to take 10 minutes and think about positive criticism. I take no pleasure from you being right or wrong but please write something more than.. "hate being proven right" it made you look childish and outright arrogant ****. :coffee:


:gp:

Dennis Bendtner
29-09-2012, 02:24 PM
The +1 merchants out in force today.

hobson's choice
29-09-2012, 02:34 PM
He had a bad game, happens to every defender, no matter how good they are.

Cripps_orig
29-09-2012, 02:35 PM
He had a bad game, happens to every defender, no matter how good they are.

If it was a one off then thats fine. Its not

18 months of shite followed by 6 months of averageness and now back to shite

He needs to go

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
29-09-2012, 02:37 PM
comical defending by the verm-kos circus act.

they cannot play together. way too similar.

Cripps_orig
29-09-2012, 02:54 PM
In all seriousness, Kos has had 2 poor shows in a row

Yeah he scored v City which we are grateful for but defensively he wasnt at it.

Clearly 3rd choice atm

Marc Overmars
29-09-2012, 02:56 PM
Verm and Kos are both good CB's in their own right but Merts brings a bit of calm and order to proceedings.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
29-09-2012, 03:19 PM
problem is both can be rash and love to jump straight in.

rash + rash = disaster

Olivier's xmas twist
29-09-2012, 03:23 PM
problem is both can be rash and love to jump straight in.

rash + rash = disaster

Like TEG says cause Tv5 is the captain it makes it hard to drop him, so it will always be Merts on Kos dropped. Even if Verm has a few shockers in a row.

Cripps_orig
29-09-2012, 03:26 PM
Verm is better than Kos

Mert is better than both

Özim
29-09-2012, 03:48 PM
From what I've seen of Koscielny, he can play really well but always seems likely to make an error which costs you a goal.

Rarely seems to be able to keep his concentration for 90 minutes, when we played Barca a couple years ago he had a great game, but then gave away a costly penalty.

Top defenders perform when their teams need them most and are largely consistent, not sure he's either today's game would have been the perfect game to show how good he was, a very important game which would signal out intentions.

Power n Glory
29-09-2012, 09:00 PM
No idea why Wenger decided to try a different partnership for this game when Merts has been in form and has played well with players. Kos has hardly played this season ad is rusty. At leat keep some form of stability and consistency by playing him with Merts again. Well, let's see if he plays it stubborn for the next match to prove a point or recalls Merts.

Xhaka Can’t
29-09-2012, 09:52 PM
If you are going to make a change to see how it works, best not experiment against the likes of Chelsea. On those occasions stick with what works. If something is working anyway, why change it? What was the point?

Marc Overmars
29-09-2012, 09:55 PM
If you are going to make a change to see how it works, best not experiment against the likes of Chelsea. On those occasions stick with what works. If something is working anyway, why change it? What was the point?

http://redgunners.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/arsenewengersmiling.jpg

milla
29-09-2012, 10:14 PM
If you are going to make a change to see how it works, best not experiment against the likes of Chelsea. On those occasions stick with what works. If something is working anyway, why change it? What was the point?

That's is right, can't understand Wenger changing the pairing during this crunch time. Why not wait until Olympiacos next Wed? :coffee:

Olivier's xmas twist
29-09-2012, 10:16 PM
That's is right, can't understand Wenger changing the pairing during this crunch time. Why not wait until Olympiacos next Wed? :coffee:

:lol:

mastermind84
03-10-2012, 04:03 AM
Wenger's biggest mistake this season was making Vermaelen captain. You cannot win with a clown like that in your backline.

KSE Comedy Club
03-10-2012, 11:12 AM
According to graham taylor on 5 live "I think Koscielney has come across the face of Mannone, in the arsenal goal"

Well its no wonder Chelsea scored.

Penguin
06-10-2012, 10:35 AM
Maybe Wenger was worried about the pace of the likes of Torres and Hazard being too much for Mertesacker. Even though it now looks stupid in hindsight, I can see the logic in this.

We need a consistent (and competent) back four.

GP
06-10-2012, 10:38 AM
Yeah, the logic is spot on. In hindsight, it didn't work out, but I can see why Kos was picked.

Syn
10-10-2012, 06:17 PM
He has tragically passed away for an undisclosed amount of time. Ribery has killed him in training.

:rose:

I suspected that Arteta would follow Szczesny into a grave this year but I guess the fact that it's a CB is probably better...as long as Vermaelen and Mertesacker stay fit.

McNamara That Ghost...
10-10-2012, 06:27 PM
Internationals. :rolleyes:

Still, it saves him from annihilating Cazorla I suppose.

Japan Shaking All Over
11-10-2012, 12:02 AM
He has tragically passed away for an undisclosed amount of time. Ribery has killed him in training.

:rose:

I suspected that Arteta would follow Szczesny into a grave this year but I guess the fact that it's a CB is probably better...as long as Vermaelen and Mertesacker stay fit.

French fool

server too busy!
11-10-2012, 08:03 AM
Word is hes alright to start

Cripps_orig
10-11-2012, 02:22 AM
Arsenal defender Laurent Koscielny admits his performances for the club have been inconsistent so far this season.

The 27-year-old joined up late with the Gunners squad over the summer after representing France at Euro 2012 and struggled with injuries in the early weeks of the campaign.

He has since battled with Per Mertesacker and Thomas Vermaelen for a starting spot, and says all of the club's central defenders are spurring each other on.

"It's been hard, of course," he told Arsenal’s official matchday programme.

"I lost most of pre-season because I was away with France, and then I had an injury right at the beginning of the season. It was difficult to come back from that quickly - the season had started, the players were up and running and you need time to get back to the required level.

"I know that I've played some good games and some not so good this season, but I'm working hard to stay fit and well. We have great competition for places at the back with guys like Per, Thomas and Johan [Djourou], and we have a lot of respect for each other.

"It's healthy for us, and we don't stop trying to improve as individuals and as a unit."

Koscielny has not featured in the Premier League since the 3-1 win against West Ham on October 6, but could face Fulham on Saturday after returning to the starting XI for the midweek draw with Schalke.

Good to see he himself has admitted hes a bit shit.

I hate being right :(

jelgoon
10-11-2012, 12:55 PM
Well he started off being shit when he joined the club and everyone thought he was going to be useless. Then he got better last season and everyone was saying how good he was. Now he is back to being shit.


Good to see he himself has admitted hes a bit shit.

I hate being right :(

Gervinho's Forehead
12-12-2012, 12:16 AM
kosshitelny, your fuck up vs birmingham will haunt me forever. You ****.

Cripps_orig
03-06-2013, 11:51 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4953766/Laurent-Koscielny-wanted-by-Pep-Guardiolas-Bayern.html

In 2 minds about this.

Kos has been very poor for the majority so I would usually say take the money but then the last 10 games he was sensational which shows he's improving finally.

LDG
04-06-2013, 06:51 AM
Eunuch/10

cricketsi
04-06-2013, 04:44 PM
£15m? Fuck off. Barely any profit on what we paid for him, and he's been a quality signing, which was apparent from the start.

GP
04-06-2013, 04:50 PM
£15m? Fuck off. Barely any profit on what we paid for him, and he's been a quality signing, which was apparent from the start.

:gp:

He's not going anywhere.

Kano
04-06-2013, 06:19 PM
'I want to lift trophies and to have a winning record. I hope the club will give me the means. If this weren’t the case, I’d look elsewhere,' Koscienly told Eurosport.

'I do not want to go anywhere. Of course I want to know another championship, but it’s complicated.'

'I want to win titles and I hope the club has the means. It deserves it. Does the club want to keep me? That question is also there.'

:lol:

fuck this game for a laugh

Cripps_orig
04-06-2013, 06:26 PM
He's gone.

Kano
04-06-2013, 06:28 PM
laurent fucking koscielny is doing this to us now!

:lol:

Marc Overmars
04-06-2013, 07:02 PM
Same shit, different player.

Cripps_orig
04-06-2013, 07:03 PM
Eunuch/10

You don't think he was sensational in the last 10 games?

Xhaka Can’t
04-06-2013, 07:28 PM
Brush your teeth, comb your hair, have an apple or a pear.

Cripps_orig
04-06-2013, 07:32 PM
Genuine question

Why is no criticism of Koscielny allowed on here?

The Emirates Gallactico
04-06-2013, 07:33 PM
Eunuch/10

0/10 for me. Old Cripps would never have even conceded even the slightest of compliment to Koscienly. His standards are slipping.


:lol:

fuck this game for a laugh

If the quotes are true, then fuck this game. Has he not seen what's happened to a lot of our former players who after a few good seasons have fucked off to supposedly better clubs to only struggle to perform at the same level. A shame as I thought he was one of the more intelligent ones in the team.

Xhaka Can’t
04-06-2013, 07:36 PM
Genuine question

Why is no criticism of Koscielny allowed on here?

Genuine answer

There is plenty of criticism and it is allowed.

I might not agree with it, as may others. But genuinely, I have no respect whatsoever for how you formulate and articulate your position on any players - positively or negatively.

Cripps_orig
04-06-2013, 07:51 PM
0/10 for me. Old Cripps would never have even conceded even the slightest of compliment to Koscienly. His standards are slipping.

I'm no longer WUMming. Saying Kos has been shit for the majority but did well recently is just fact which most would agree with if they weren't WUMming themselves.

Kano
04-06-2013, 08:30 PM
Genuine question

Why is no criticism of Koscielny allowed on here?
when the news grows on those quotes, i don't think that will be an issue any longer.

Kano
04-06-2013, 08:31 PM
0/10 for me. Old Cripps would never have even conceded even the slightest of compliment to Koscienly. His standards are slipping.



If the quotes are true, then fuck this game. Has he not seen what's happened to a lot of our former players who after a few good seasons have fucked off to supposedly better clubs to only struggle to perform at the same level. A shame as I thought he was one of the more intelligent ones in the team.
not just that but him of all people! he was average at best bar the last 10 games this season and now he demands ambition? let's put in some bids for world class centre backs and see how he feels about ambition then.

Cripps_orig
04-06-2013, 08:36 PM
not just that but him of all people! he was average at best bar the last 10 games this season and now he demands ambition? let's put in some bids for world class centre backs and see how he feels about ambition then.

Would be good but we're getting Ashley Williams instead.

Shaqiri Is Boss
04-06-2013, 08:40 PM
Would be good but we're getting Ashley Williams instead.

:woohoo:

Cripps_orig
04-06-2013, 08:41 PM
:woohoo:

You still have Skrtel :pal:

Shaqiri Is Boss
04-06-2013, 08:42 PM
You still have Skrtel :pal:

If the press is to be believed, not for long. Rafa :bow: Going for some Greek apparently.

Cripps_orig
04-06-2013, 08:46 PM
A highly rated Greek tbh.

Impressed me the few times I've seen him

Ollie the Optimist
04-06-2013, 08:55 PM
if kos had left out the "i would go if we dont win titles" part i would take no issue with his quotes whatsoever, its the exact same thing ramsey said the other day, its just that line that takes it from what we are all saying, to a threat. it irks me

McNamara That Ghost...
04-06-2013, 09:00 PM
If the press is to be believed, not for long. Rafa :bow: Going for some Greek apparently.

Reuniting with Kyrgiakos?

Cripps_orig
04-06-2013, 09:14 PM
if kos had left out the "i would go if we dont win titles" part i would take no issue with his quotes whatsoever, its the exact same thing ramsey said the other day, its just that line that takes it from what we are all saying, to a threat. it irks me
How long before you call him a judas ****?

Had that been a player you hate, Theo, Sagna etc, you'd have said it already

Shaqiri Is Boss
04-06-2013, 09:16 PM
Reuniting with Kyrgiakos?

I don't think Soto was ever that bad for us. Had the job of being a bulldozer and did it quite well.

Although the new one's first name is eerily similar.

Ollie the Optimist
04-06-2013, 09:21 PM
How long before you call him a judas ****?

Had that been a player you hate, Theo, Sagna etc, you'd have said it already


if it was walcott, you would be saying he was misquoted and that its all fine, instead of posting sarcastic wumming posts to the mods :good:

Cripps_orig
04-06-2013, 09:24 PM
if it was walcott, you would be saying he was misquoted and that its all fine, instead of posting sarcastic wumming posts to the mods :good:

No I'd be saying the exact same thing I have done with Kos's quotes

"He's gone"

Check the theo thread when he was during his contract saga

Kano
04-06-2013, 09:26 PM
Would be good but we're getting Ashley Williams instead.
of course we'd never get them to come but let Kos see the club going for more ambition in his role.

Ollie the Optimist
04-06-2013, 09:28 PM
of course we'd never get them to come but let Kos see the club going for more ambition in his role.

which would be a complete waste of the clubs time and resources. we dont need to strengthen the defence as much as other areas need it, so doing that to make a point to kosceinly, is a waste of time and stupid and not what the clubs need

Cripps_orig
04-06-2013, 09:32 PM
of course we'd never get them to come but let Kos see the club going for more ambition in his role.
Would be funny

Kano
04-06-2013, 09:32 PM
you're right ollie. another player should dictate terms to us again.

he's world class as well, so definitely worth it.

the point is, footballers are quick to open their mouth to the media about 'ambition' yet can you remember the last time they mentioned positions?

rooney didn't plan it out too well.

Ollie the Optimist
04-06-2013, 09:34 PM
right so you would rather we went and spent 30 million on a defender just to make a point to kos when its not needed instead of spending it on a striker which would improve the team and we actually need?

Kano
04-06-2013, 09:36 PM
no i would rather we made noises in that direction to put him back in his cage, or should we just let him engineer himself out?

and honestly, 30m is not being spent anywhere on one player this summer.

Syn
04-06-2013, 09:39 PM
I don't know exactly what those quotes are supposed to be. Translated from French possibly as well you know with probably little bit special imagination. He says he is happy at Arsenal. He says he doesn't want to fight for 4th all the time. He says we must fight for the league. And, as footballers generally are, he is non-committal about his future beyond 'I am happy at Arsenal'.

In any case, it is not in his hands. He signed a contract last season and has over 3 years to run. We have a bit of money now. There is no need to sell. I am not surprised at all if Bayern Munich are interested. He is a top quality defender. We just needed to give him a good run of games and once he is settled he is fantastic. I don't think we can replace Koscielny for the £15m fee rumoured.

Kano
04-06-2013, 09:42 PM
there's a video online where he is speaking to eurosport in french so i guess the press here have had a chance to translate directly. plenty of general footballer guff about desire for the club but most of those quotes question the club and really, he is no position at all to do it publicly, unless he wants a move.

wenger will always sell when a player demands it and says they are unhappy.

Syn
04-06-2013, 09:48 PM
there's a video online where he is speaking to eurosport. plenty of general footballer guff about desire for the club but most of those quotes question the club and really, he is no position at all to do it publicly, unless he wants a move.

wenger will always sell when a player demands it and says they are unhappy.

I don't speak French. But Arseblog and other sources are going with a different spin than some of the tabloids.


Arseblog News has no doubt that the ‘I feel good at Arsenal’ line will be largely overlooked in the coming 48 hours with other publications focusing instead on the “Koscielny: Win me a trophy or I’m f*cking off” angle.

We’d urge everyone to chill out. The fact Laurent was being questioned by a bloke who insisted on pushing him to talk about PSG, despite there being no suggestion of such a move, underlines that everyone, both at home and abroad, is looking for a juicy headline. Moreover, what he has said makes perfect sense – the club does indeed need to win silverware and it’s going to need hungry players like Koscielny to do so.

http://news.arseblog.com/2013/06/koscielny-i-feel-good-at-arsenal-but-want-titles/

I don't think it's a big deal. We'll find out soon enough anyway. I am not going to be blaming players anyway (just as I didn't blame Van Persie as much as Wenger and the club). There is no need to sell Koscielny. We took a stand with Walcott over his contract situation and hopefully that is a sign of things to come - that we can force players to stay.

Power n Glory
04-06-2013, 10:39 PM
right so you would rather we went and spent 30 million on a defender just to make a point to kos when its not needed instead of spending it on a striker which would improve the team and we actually need?

I agree. It's a waste of time and money. All we have to do is focus on winning and then the problem sorts itself out.

Alpha
05-06-2013, 09:19 AM
The media is there to manipulate people ,especially if you are naif and more likely to believe any story . Laurent Koscielny story has been made up by the british media simply because he has proved them wrong . When he joined Arsenal , Koscielny was labelled as a joke signing . Now that he has developed into a real class defender they are trying to link him with other teams just to unsettle him and Arsenal .
Koscielny is french and spoke to the french media . He just said he was happy at Arsenal and Arsenal is a big team and shouldn't just compete for 4th spot . They should challenge for the title . He never said he wanted out .This story is not even in the headlines of french media .
I can perfectly speak and understand French and can confirm Koscielny statement has been twisted as usual .

Tipsychubbs
05-06-2013, 02:12 PM
He inappropriately responded to the baiting and fell into the web by admitting what he shouldn't be admitting publicly. It may be true behind closed doors, but he doesn't need to answer a reporter asking him what it would take for him to leave Arsenal. That part disrespects the club, and he could have avoided it more tactfully.

Niall_Quinn
05-06-2013, 04:59 PM
Genuine question

Why is no criticism of Koscielny allowed on here?

LOL, I spent the whole of the season before last slating him. I was boring myself in the end (no homo)

Penguin
08-06-2013, 05:09 PM
Football fans obsess about loyalty and 'true' love for their club but that doesn't exist anymore. If we sold everyone who would move to a bigger club if they had a chance, we would only have a handful of average players left.

Koscielny hasn't said much wrong if you look at everything he's said in the interview. If we want to keep our better players we need to win trophies, or at least show more ambition in the transfer market.

Kano
08-06-2013, 05:25 PM
Football fans obsess about loyalty and 'true' love for their club but that doesn't exist anymore. If we sold everyone who would move to a bigger club if they had a chance, we would only have a handful of average players left.

Koscielny hasn't said much wrong if you look at everything he's said in the interview. If we want to keep our better players we need to win trophies, or at least show more ambition in the transfer market.
you shouldn't expect loyalty yet you should expect some sort of respect for the club with what you say in public. the comments about his 'affection' for the club should come as standard as a paid employee, so he gets no pats on the back for that. but the smart fucker wraps them around veiled ideas, such as "do the club really want me?". since when was that ever posed?

especially from a guy who had a very mixed season and who although can be a very good defender, has yet to show that for a consistently long period. a player wants 'ambition' or to move? then deal with it with your slimeball agent or many devious contacts within the game. don't come spilling out about buying players when you would be the first to cry, ala rooney, if we bought in your position. koscienly can fuck off.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
08-06-2013, 06:12 PM
:lol: you lot

kicking up a fuss over nothing

if he wants to go, fuck him. we lost van persie and still managed to do better the following year so as far as im concerned anyone who wants to fuck off please do so

but just to point something out, the questions that were asked were pretty direct and blunt. via arseblog:

- ‘Regarding your future, where will you play next season?’
- ‘Isn’t it gruelling to go through season after season without winning trophies? What could incite you to leave?’
- ‘PSG are on your case, have they been in touch?’

he's hardly going to cut away from the interview. he answered them honestly and the media decided to be selective on the 2 lines where he mentioned ambition and trophies.

Niall_Quinn
08-06-2013, 07:58 PM
If we sold everyone who would move to a bigger club if they had a chance, we would only have a handful of average players left.

What do you mean "if"?

That's exactly what we've done isn't it?

Niall_Quinn
08-06-2013, 07:59 PM
you shouldn't expect loyalty yet you should expect some sort of respect for the club with what you say in public. the comments about his 'affection' for the club should come as standard as a paid employee, so he gets no pats on the back for that. but the smart fucker wraps them around veiled ideas, such as "do the club really want me?". since when was that ever posed?

especially from a guy who had a very mixed season and who although can be a very good defender, has yet to show that for a consistently long period. a player wants 'ambition' or to move? then deal with it with your slimeball agent or many devious contacts within the game. don't come spilling out about buying players when you would be the first to cry, ala rooney, if we bought in your position. koscienly can fuck off.

We're looking for things in the game that don't exist any more. If you just settle on the idea all players are ****s then everything else makes sense.

Penguin
10-06-2013, 06:17 PM
What do you mean "if"?
That's exactly what we've done isn't it?

True :lol:

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...:crying:

Cripps_orig
16-06-2013, 01:23 PM
http://www.goal.com/en/news/article?contentId=4052170

He's gone

Syn
16-06-2013, 01:43 PM
No surprise that Bayern Munich and Barcelona are interested.

Joker
16-06-2013, 01:43 PM
If he want's to leave then let him. These players are absolutely justified in wanting titles, but they fail to realise they're part of the reason why we haven't won any silverware in ages. Same with RVP. If Bayern or Barca offer a lot of money, we should accept it and get a really top quality CB in.

Syn
16-06-2013, 01:56 PM
Indeed, we can use the money we get for Koscielny to buy a truly top quality CB, because unlike Koscielny, they won't want to challenge for titles, and luckily Bayern and Barcelona are stupid because they'll let us get the best CBs while they'll take Koscielny off our hands for big money. Flawless plan.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2013, 02:00 PM
10 good games and the big clubs are interested.

What happened to having a good season or 2.

Joker
16-06-2013, 02:04 PM
Indeed, we can use the money we get for Koscielny to buy a truly top quality CB, because unlike Koscielny, they won't want to challenge for titles, and luckily Bayern and Barcelona are stupid because they'll let us get the best CBs while they'll take Koscielny off our hands for big money. Flawless plan.

If we sign other players as well like Higuain, Bender, Gonalons etc then that suggests we are definitely going for the title. You could say that if we do make those sorts of signings then Koscielny will want to stay, which is fine. However, if he still wants to leave then that't not a big deal because there are plenty of high quality CBs around who are better than Koscielny anyway.

Niall_Quinn
16-06-2013, 02:32 PM
We have a few quid now (apparently) and we should use some of the money to seriously fuck over any player that doesn't understand taking the fans' cash comes with a few conditions. Loyalty, the demand for 100% effort week in week out, keeping your fucking mouth shut and doing the talking with your performances. If Kos wants to go we should stick him on the bench and ruin his career. Or just throw him to the fans and let them hit him with bricks. Anyone else had enough of these **** footballers yet?

Syn
16-06-2013, 02:52 PM
If we sign other players as well like Higuain, Bender, Gonalons etc then that suggests we are definitely going for the title. You could say that if we do make those sorts of signings then Koscielny will want to stay, which is fine. However, if he still wants to leave then that't not a big deal because there are plenty of high quality CBs around who are better than Koscielny anyway.

If those high quality better-than-Koscielny CBs were available, then Bayern Munich would sign them. Why would they waste their time with Koscielny?

Niall_Quinn
16-06-2013, 03:06 PM
Whatever else happens, at least we managed to hang on to Theo Walcott... :banghead:

Injury Time
16-06-2013, 06:51 PM
Whatever else happens, at least we managed to hang on to Theo Walcott... :banghead:
Wenger says he's not interested in Higsboson as would kill Theo :rose:

Ollie the Optimist
16-06-2013, 08:22 PM
Indeed, we can use the money we get for Koscielny to buy a truly top quality CB, because unlike Koscielny, they won't want to challenge for titles, and luckily Bayern and Barcelona are stupid because they'll let us get the best CBs while they'll take Koscielny off our hands for big money. Flawless plan.

:haha:


spot on though

selassie
17-06-2013, 11:13 AM
I am pretty certain that if either club up their interest in Kos then he will leave.

I very much doubt we will get a top fee, probably around 15mill max...especially if he makes noises about wanting to go.

I truly hope this speculation doesn't affect us recruiting new players. I.E. The classic Wenger comment of "The most important thing is keeping the team together, we fight to keep the players here then we enter the market".

GP
17-06-2013, 11:17 AM
Kos isn't going anywhere.

tjmill
17-06-2013, 11:25 AM
Can't see him leaving it sounds just like paper talk. Key player for us this year imo

Marc Overmars
17-06-2013, 11:26 AM
It's only his first year of speculation.

The ****s usually do one after the 2nd year.

Ollie the Optimist
17-06-2013, 11:38 AM
I am pretty certain that if either club up their interest in Kos then he will leave.

I very much doubt we will get a top fee, probably around 15mill max...especially if he makes noises about wanting to go.

I truly hope this speculation doesn't affect us recruiting new players. I.E. The classic Wenger comment of "The most important thing is keeping the team together, we fight to keep the players here then we enter the market".

Given the other day he said he wants to stay and win here as well as being happy here, we can rule that out

Kano
17-06-2013, 11:57 AM
I am pretty certain that if either club up their interest in Kos then he will leave.

I very much doubt we will get a top fee, probably around 15mill max...especially if he makes noises about wanting to go.

I truly hope this speculation doesn't affect us recruiting new players. I.E. The classic Wenger comment of "The most important thing is keeping the team together, we fight to keep the players here then we enter the market".

He's done all the classic set up talk, now his agent is piping up alongside it, so it's following the route you'd expect.

All depends on whether Wenger plays tough or let's him go because he's not happy.

selassie
17-06-2013, 12:06 PM
yep, that's the impression I am getting too.

ah well, we just have to wait and see!

Cripps_orig
17-06-2013, 12:08 PM
Kos clearly falls into the "don't care if he stays or goes" category

However seeing as we won't sign a replacement should he leave, if I had to choose, he should stay otherwise djourou is back in first team reckoning

Kano
17-06-2013, 12:24 PM
Kos clearly falls into the "don't care if he stays or goes" category

However seeing as we won't sign a replacement should he leave, if I had to choose, he should stay otherwise djourou is back in first team reckoning
It does matter as we need stability and good defensive partnerships are not easy to find - as we've seen over the years.

He's been good overall but not consistent enough but the run in gave hope some sort of solution had been found.

Saying all that, he is clearly agitating for a move and so if the **** wants to walk, let him.

Cripps_orig
17-06-2013, 12:27 PM
A classic case of a player thinking he's better and more important than he actually is.

Fuck him.

Syn
17-06-2013, 12:32 PM
Scum of a person. Need to get rid ASAP.

GP
17-06-2013, 12:33 PM
Scum of a person. Need to get rid ASAP.

I think everyone agrees with that.

But what about Kos?

Syn
17-06-2013, 12:34 PM
I think everyone agrees with that.

But what about Kos?

send him to Portsmouth for a weekend.

selassie
17-06-2013, 12:38 PM
Kos clearly falls into the "don't care if he stays or goes" category

However seeing as we won't sign a replacement should he leave, if I had to choose, he should stay otherwise djourou is back in first team reckoning

Yep, that's pretty much the issue and has been for a while. We don't replace properly.

Cripps_orig
01-07-2013, 01:45 PM
Arsenal defender Laurent Koscielny has dismissed speculation linking him with a move away from the club this summer.

Koscielny has been reportedly interesting the likes of Barcelona and Bayern Munich following a strong second half of the season.

But the 27-year-old says he has no intention of leaving Arsenal and is happy with life at the club.

Asked if he was seeking a move from Arsenal, Koscielny told reporters: "I never said that. I feel very well at Arsenal.

"I am aware it’s a great club and I have a four-year contract. I know there’s talk about me and Barcelona and Bayern, but people make their own conclusions.

"The facts are simple: I have a contract at a club where I am happy. Full stop. We all know how situations change in football but I repeat that I’m not one to make castles in the sky.

"I live in the moment, I seek nothing but to play the best I can.

"In my mind my goal is to win trophies with Arsenal with whom I’m about to start pre-season training. I’ve no ulterior motives.

"I’m at a healthy club, which plays beautiful football, doesn’t lose money every year, sticks to its own budget and plays in the Champions League. Not many players can say the same."

Wenger has brainwashed the players.

Özim
01-07-2013, 01:50 PM
Wenger has brainwashed the players.
Great news, make him take a pay cut and tell him he has to in order for us make sure we stick to our budget and don't lose money, since it's a matter so close to his heart I'm sure he won't mind :good:

Kano
01-07-2013, 08:03 PM
glad to hear he's been clear cut about wanting to be here. hopefully that's the end of it.

Niall_Quinn
01-07-2013, 08:05 PM
glad to hear he's been clear cut about wanting to be here. hopefully that's the end of it.

Yep, let's put this behind us until next year.

Kano
01-07-2013, 08:05 PM
sad but mostly likely true.

Master Splinter
01-07-2013, 08:15 PM
but I repeat that I’m not one to make castles in the sky.

Not a fan anymore.

Cripps_orig
01-07-2013, 08:17 PM
Yep, let's put this behind us until next year.

Think he'll need more than 10 good games though

Cripps_orig
01-07-2013, 08:17 PM
Not a fan anymore.

Reminds me of a song that quote does.

Master Splinter
01-07-2013, 08:20 PM
Reminds me of a song that quote does.

Sir Mix-a-Lot :bow:.