Abou Diaby watch?

[Keith]

Has anyone seen him recently?

[PGFC]

Has anyone seen him recently?

No, and I'd like to keep it that way thanks :good:

[dazthegooner]

He was looking quality before he was assulted fooking Dan Smith <_<

[Boss]

Can't believe we turned down 10M this summer for that waste of space. :rose:

[Marc Overmars]

The less seen of him the better.

Which shouldn't be a problem anyway as he's normally only available twice a month when fit.

[LDG]

I saw him in the cookery section at boots.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Would be like a new signing again. . . .and again. . . .and again

[GP]

Total waste of a parking space.

[Keith]

on Diaby and Vermaelen...
Diaby is three or four weeks. Vermaelen is just over two weeks. So it should be after the international break, summer 2012, for both of them.

[Ollie the Optimist]

diaby can be a brilliant player imo, when he is good he is very good and as daz said he was looking quality until that cunt fucked his ankle up. sadly these days he has had games where is very good but most time just does one stupid thing that fucks it up. if he stopped taht, he would be a very good player imo

[LDG]

He knocked John Terry out.

:bow:

[IBK]

I said that each time he's mentioned I would remind people that we pay him more than Spurs pay Modric - so I will.

[Fist of Lehmann]

He knocked John Terry out.

:bow:What a shitkicker.


:bow:

[Fats]

CUNT!!!

[gunnerrrrr]

I said that each time he's mentioned I would remind people that we pay him more than Spurs pay Modric - so I will.

lol

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I said that each time he's mentioned I would remind people that we pay him more than Spurs pay Modric - so I will.

Yeah but Modric wanted to leave. :lol:

Oh right, I see.

[Niall_Quinn]

Do we pay wages based on time at the club? It can't be on appearances or performance because Diaby would be on 50p. I guess he drags himself out of his hospital bed every two years and demands a pay rise.

[Keith]

Midfielder Abou Diaby has suffered another injury setback.

Wenger revealed: "You won't see him for a while — for the next three weeks. He has had a setback with his hamstring.

"The surgery went well but his balance has changed so he has to adjust his muscular strength."

[Cripps_orig]

:haha:

[Unai Tea]

Midfielder Abou Diaby has suffered another injury setback.

Wenger revealed: "You won't see him for a while — for the next three weeks. He has had a setback with his hamstring.

"The surgery went well but his balance has changed so he has to adjust his muscular strength."

Excellent! I was getting a bit worried he'd be coming back into contention soon. 3 more weeks (at least) where he's out of sight, out of mind. With any luck he'll be healthy enough by Dec 31 to be sold.

[Flavs]

on the new football manager he has 147 ability and 176 potential, his potential likeliness is 11% :lol: and his injury proneness is 20 out of...20

If i ever find that Sunderland twat :angry:

[Flavs]

Hopefully he can follow Rosicky and RvP in eventually putting all this behind him and looking a better player for it

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Diaby has always had the potential to be immense, at the moment he is no better than a poor man's PaddyV but I belive he has the potential to be immense.

He does though have a certain number of things working against him;

1) consistency - his doing (can have a run of a couple of good games then wham a whole string of howlers)
2) played out of position - Wenger's doing
3) injury proneness

However there are positives

1) Knows where the goal is
2) Decent feet - control can be suss but I have seen him waltz through players
3) Decent tackler - not a shirker as proven with his tete a tete with Joey Barton

I think what we are seeing from some Rosicky and Kos being good examples is that they realise we are in a situation snd that we can no longer tske things for granted as in the Cesc/Nasbo era, that players are going to have to step up and face the challenge.
If Diaby could be anothetr one of those players, if he could get the bit between his teeth, pull on the jersey thinking I have a point to prove both he and the team would improve. . . .if he were to do that I promise to rest my case about having nit bought Parker!

[Boss]

Diaby is a moron who is unfortunately injury prone.

Must be sold asap.

[Marc Overmars]

I would say we should cash in but no one is seriously going to consider buying him with his injury record.

[milla]

I would say we should cash in but no one is seriously going to consider buying him with his injury record.

It's hard enough to cash on Denilson let alone Diaby, feking impossible tbh. Just give him the fekin contract extension. :good:

[Flavs]

I would say we should cash in but no one is seriously going to consider buying him with his injury record.

Oh i think a hell of a lot of teams would want him mate

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Still think he could be good for us but I wouldnt be worried if he lined up against us, same goes for Bendtner

[GP]

He literally has no brain.

[milla]

Oh i think a hell of a lot of teams would want him mate

:gp:

Diaby needs his own fitness regime to keep him fit. I wonder why the club hasnt adopt this method, in fact many of our players could do with personalised fitness work (Rosicky, RVP, Ramsey).
He might not be popular in England but there will be many taker in France or Italy. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He literally has no brain.

Harsh but true

[IBK]

We pay Diaby £60K pw plus - more than Spurs pay Modric, did you know?

[Dog Toffee]

He wouldnt get into our first team midfield atm anyway. But when fit he's a very useful asset as he can dominate a midfield when playing well, but thats rare. Still Im glad we have him.

[IBK]

He wouldnt get into our first team midfield atm anyway. But when fit he's a very useful asset as he can dominate a midfield when playing well, but thats rare. Still Im glad we have him.

Really? A perma crock who plays like he has had a lobotomy 2 out of the 3 times he does play?

I feel sorry for his career being stunted by a thug, but paying 60K pw for this is bad business, IMO.

[Cripps_orig]

I would say we should cash in but no one is seriously going to consider buying him with his injury record and more importantly he is fucking shite ass

Just corrected your little mistake there

[Ollie the Optimist]

diaby is a very good playeb at times, sadly for him that cunt dan smith has pretty much ruined his career with that shocking tackle.

when he plaYs well, he is very good!but sadly cant sustain it due to injuries. sad as he would have%been a very very good player for us

[Keith]

Big man is back in full training

[Flavs]

Big man is back in full training

Cant see him getting near the team at the moment but its good news, he fits this formation as the supporting midfielder perfectly but there are a lot of players in front of him now

[IBK]

http://chuckconnelly.com/gallery/2009/5%202009-35%20Glue.Factory%2048x60.jpg

[Master Splinter]

Why did you post a picture of Ruud van Nistelrooy in a Diaby thread?

[IBK]

Why did you post a picture of Ruud van Nistelrooy in a Diaby thread?

Wishful thinking?

[Keith]

Played a part in the second goal tonight.

Waiting on the injury news!

[Cripps_orig]

Played a part in the second goal tonight.

Waiting on the injury news!

He did?

Arteta corner, Verm flick on, RVP puts it in

Where does Diaby come in to it?

[Marc Overmars]

We have a fairly disciplined midfield now.

Lets hope Diaby doesn't ruin that.

[PGFC]

Played a part in the second goal tonight.

Waiting on the injury news!


He did?

Arteta corner, Verm flick on, RVP puts it in

Where does Diaby come in to it?

The Dortmund defenders were all busy :pal: at him to notice RvP sneaking in behind them, good tactics AW :good:

[Keith]

Abou Diaby misses out tonight after picking up an injury on Saturday

[IBK]

Abou Diaby misses out tonight after picking up an injury on Saturday

:rolleyes:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Time to sell the lad tbh, he is just to injury prone.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Abou Diaby misses out tonight after picking up an injury on Saturday

Thank the heavens!

[KSE Comedy Club]

Time to sell the lad tbh, he is just too injury prone shit.

fixed.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

fixed.

How do you do that line through thing, thanks in advance

[Syn]

How do you do that line through thing, thanks in advance

With no spaces in the brackets: text you want to cross out

[KSE Comedy Club]

Syn has the answer you need :good:

[GP]

Syn has an answer for everything.

Syn :bow:

[Keith]

Good to hear the big guy was back today...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

At least Denilson played enough for us to know he wasn't very good.

[selassie]

Good to hear the big guy was back today...

We won't see him again for a while, he's done his hammy apparently.

[Marc Overmars]

Today was laughably bad for him and just summed his situation up in a nutshell.

He has played only 18 games in 2 years and the most he's ever managed in a season is 29.

It's not his fault but there is no point in persisting with this guy anymore. Get rid of him so we can free up some wages and squad space. Frimpong should be ready next season to take his place, providing he makes a good recovery.

[Fats]

Nobody will buy him with such a terrible record. We will have to come to some agreement with the insurance company and cancel his contract.

[Newguy]

He might be able to come back, especially if you look rosicky as an example. But yes right now it's not looking great. He'll be out for another 3 weeks maybe 4. What I don't get is why? Did he not have any reserve matches? Does he himself not realise that he may need to warm up his muscles for a longer period of time before he comes on the pitch due to his injury history? This has gotta get sorted.

[Power n Glory]

Exactly. This has got to be bad fitness advice from our staff. How long was he training with us before that game and did he get a few reserve game run outs? If so, how comes he's pulling a hamstring just after coming off the bench for the game? Why didn't he pull up in training if he wasn't fully healed? Didn't Coquelin start a game some weeks back and then pulled his hamstring? Wasn't it the same for Squallci as well?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

If anybody has to be monitored incessantly for being in the danger zone, it's Diaby. Shame, he looked somewhat like Good Diaby too.

[Master Splinter]

Spinning and gliding majestically past the entire midfield :bow:.

Then doing nothing :bow:.

[Power n Glory]

Managed to create space for himself to pop a shot off and it's not as if we haven't seen him score from such situations. He's always had a great shot on him.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Spinning and gliding majestically past the entire midfield :bow:.

Then doing nothing :bow:.

:haha:

Sell him, he's never fit.

[Flavs]

Looked twice the player of Benayoun when he came on tbf

[Marc Overmars]

He's on a long term deal so I guess we're lumbered with the oaf for a while then.

[GP]

Just sell him for glue, tbh.

[mkkreuk]

Today was laughably bad for him and just summed his situation up in a nutshell.

He has played only 18 games in 2 years and the most he's ever managed in a season is 29.

It's not his fault but there is no point in persisting with this guy anymore. Get rid of him so we can free up some wages and squad space. Frimpong should be ready next season to take his place, providing he makes a good recovery.

In years gone by, Im sure ive seen a few GW users say Van persie should be sold due to his awful injury record....

[gunnerrrrr]

In years gone by, Im sure ive seen a few GW users say Van persie should be sold due to his awful injury record....

More than a few

[Cripps_orig]

In years gone by, Im sure ive seen a few GW users say Van persie should be sold due to his awful injury record....RVP always had the talent though.

Diaby is shit

[Marc Overmars]

In years gone by, Im sure ive seen a few GW users say Van persie should be sold due to his awful injury record....

Probably but I always felt it was worth keeping RVP because he was extremely productive even in the short spells he had when fit.

In the case of Diaby, he's played even less Football than RVP and has never really been a nailed down starter. Therefore I don't see how we can miss what we never had with him, despite the obvious cameo of ability he displays now and then.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

RVP always had the talent though.

Diaby is shit

No he's not and never has been, May not have a football brain though. Just think after he broke his leg he has never been the same mentally. Which causes him to be reckless and get silly injuries.

[KSE Comedy Club]

No he's not and never has been, May not have a football brain though. Just think after he broke his leg he has never been the same mentally. Which causes him to be reckless and get silly injuries.He has been shit on plenty of occasions, with the odd good performance thrown in when it isn't raining.

Just sell him ASAP, he's taking up valuable resources.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yeah id think its time we sold him tbh seems more deadwood these days.

[Dicks and chicks]

Just sell him for glue, tbh.
Like they did with Boxer in animal farm?

[Master Splinter]

Diaby - I am not a fragile footballer

Abou Diaby knows he is a NOT a “fragile” footballer, even though he understands why the wider world might make the assertion.

On the contrary, the Arsenal midfielder believes his injury problems are nearly behind him and he harbours no concerns about his future career. In fact, he has “never been as motivated” to fulfill his ‘destiny’.

The 25-year-old was speaking after a week that typifies his ill-fortune. An ankle injury had restricted Diaby to just 26 minutes this season before he replaced Mikel Arteta early in the second half at Liverpool last Saturday. He would barely double that tally before being forced off again.

Fortunately, it is only a minor problem and the France international is expected to return soon. However the knock leaves Diaby in the unfortunately familiar position of battling back. Speaking to the French media this week, he put over his side of the story.

“A lot of things have been said and written about me and I wanted to tell the truth about my situation,” said Diaby. “People say that I’m fragile and although I understand why, I am not fragile.



“I have had three operations on my ankle, all for different problems but the result of that was that my body is unbalanced, especially in my legs. 
I have overused one over the other and to put everything back in place is not easy.



“I get injured,” he went on. “It’s a fact but when people tell you you're fragile, it hurts. Today my ankle is twice as big because of the surgery. My problem is a biomechanical problem. I need to work daily on how to
 rebalance my body."

Diaby admits his injuries have prompted thoughts of retirement in the past. But sterling work with the Arsenal medical team and specialists abroad have banished those now.

“I am not scared for the rest of my career,” he said. “I still have a big future. 
Physically, I really feel very good, like a beast. Unfortunately, I had that little problem at Liverpool but it’s nothing serious and I will start running again at the end of the week.

“There have been times where I thought about stopping my career. You always
 ask yourself a lot of questions in those moments. It’s hard mentally and I had to be strong. But quickly, I went back to a very positive attitude. I know I am going to be fine. I am not a cheat. I have always worked very hard to come back.



“I have never had any apprehension playing football but I have to say that last season I feared a bit to play. It was so important for me to come back to my best level and to avoid getting injured again that I had this little apprehension.”


With his recovery close to completion, Diaby is now philosophical about the journey he has taken but remains resolute about what he can achieve.

“For me, my injuries are a task sent by God,” he said. “I need to go through them to achieve the goals and the dreams that I have in my career. It’s my destiny. I am privileged. Some people have worse problems than me so I cannot complain.



“I am hungry and strong mentally. All those hard times have strengthened me. I know there is a lot of expectation around me and some pressure but it’s a challenge for me to come back to my best level.

“I have never been as motivated as I am now. I want to prove to everybody, and especially to myself, that I can do it. I have faith in what I am doing. I will never give up and I know that I will come out of this tunnel.”


http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/diaby-i-am-not-a-fragile-footballer

[Flavs]

Diaby :bow:

[Letters]

In years gone by, Im sure ive seen a few GW users say Van persie should be sold due to his awful injury record....

I was one of them :lol:

It was always a difficult one. RvP is having the season of his life and we'd have been massively screwed this year without him. But had he got injured half way through this season (and with his record it wouldn't have been a huge surprise) then we'd have been screwed anyway.
Of course a fit RvP is worth keeping. If he can only play half a season each year though then he isn't.
Obviously you can't know in advance which it'll be. I felt that we should probably cut our losses but I recognised that if we did that and he went somewhere else and stayed fit then we'd have lost out. Keeping him was the right call, happy to have been shown wrong but it could have gone the other way had he broken this year too.

[Keith]

Came back in the reserves today and scored the equaliser!

Then went off injured.

[Syn]

Came back in the reserves today and scored the equaliser!

Then went off injured.

He went over on his bad ankle while putting the ball in the net. But played on after and was moving freely enough. He was taken off but he was only supposed to play an hour anyway according to Wenger.

But yeah, it is quite tragic. Can't see his career having a Van Persie style turnaround because his injuries seem related whereas Van Persie kept snapping different parts of the body. And there's also the fact that Van Persie clearly had a lot of talent and was scoring whenever he was fit, whereas Diaby at his best runs past a couple of players and does something stupid at the end of it.

[Cripps_orig]

Abou Diaby can still be a "massive" player for Arsenal, according to Arsène Wenger.

The highly-regarded France midfielder has been at the Club for six years but a succession of injuries have stopped him from realising his full potential.

Diaby has just 54 minutes of first-team action under his belt this season but Wenger has faith in his compatriot - even if he won't select him for the Aston Villa game.

"Diaby is available again, but he should be in the group next week," said the manager. "I don't want to take any gamble on him now. Apart from that it will be the same squad as at Everton.

"He can be massive for us, but at the moment we have had so many setbacks with him that we don't want to take a gamble. He needs another game [for the reserves], and then he will be ready."

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-we-won-t-obsess-when-rivals-clash

Looks like any chance of a new midfielder coming in are over :rose:

[milla]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-we-won-t-obsess-when-rivals-clash

Looks like any chance of a new midfielder coming in are over :rose:
http://redgunners.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/arsenewengersmiling.jpg

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-the-tour-will-be-crucial-for-diaby


“He is the first player who would be on the France teamsheet in midfield when he is fit.

That bit made me laugh

[Master Splinter]

Diaby will have a great season.

Then push for a move to PSG in the summer.

[cricketsi]

http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/apr_12/gun__1333791125_diaby_training1.jpghttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4135/4900517139_a45c2bcf66_z.jpg

Diaby :bow:

[fakeyank]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-the-tour-will-be-crucial-for-diaby



That bit made me laugh

Wengers ass has got to be on his mouth. He cant stop spouting shit every time he opens it!

[Power n Glory]

Wenger isn't talking shit though. This is what Blanc told Wenger! It's right there in the article but Ach, once again, chooses to be selective with the quotes. Diaby actually looked decent playing for France.

[4-3-3]

it seem to me Ach never seen diaby play. he is better than all of our midfield when fit. but then it has been long since he kicked a ball.

[Injury Time]

Dead Diaby better than bad Diaby tbf, really like good Diaby but loooong time since seen him:(

[fakeyank]

it seem to me Ach never seen diaby play. he is better than all of our midfield when fit. but then it has been long since he kicked a ball.

Nobody has seen Diaby play

[4-3-3]

Nobody has seen Diaby play

talk on your behalf:coffee:

[Flavs]

Dead Diaby better than bad Diaby tbf, really like good Diaby but loooong time since seen him:(

Who were we playing when he came on last season? Was it Liverpool? He looked the shit then but sadly injured himself again in doing so

[I_Killed_Kenny]

he'll probably do his ankle ligament tying his boot up before the 1st game of the seaon. "he will be out for 2 weeks" is what will get said. bt we wont see him til 2013

[Marc Overmars]

Diaby. :lol:

I remember him.

[Cripps_orig]

Abou Diaby says he is full of confidence ahead of the new season after Arsène Wenger praised his "exceptional" talent.

The 26-year-old midfielder struggled with injuries last term and was restricted to just five first-team appearances for Arsenal during a difficult campaign.

However, he has played a full part in pre-season and Wenger said earlier this week that "he is the first player who would be on the France teamsheet in midfield when fit".

"That makes me feel confident - it is always nice to have the confidence of the manager," Diaby told a webchat with Chinese fans hosted by Arsenal.qq.com.

"I'm fit now, I have been training since the beginning of pre-season and also did a rehabilitation session during my holidays - so now I feel great.

"I know that when I am fit, I can be good on the pitch. My main target this season is to be fit and if I am then everything will be good for me."

Wenger has also spoken about how the Arsenal 2012 Tour, presented by Emirates is "crucial" for Diaby in proving his long-term fitness.

"It is definitely important - I need to be fit in order to complete the whole season," he agreed. "It is so important that I stay fit because last season I was injured many times and couldn't play much, so this year is crucial."

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/diaby-wenger-has-filled-me-with-confidence

He got injured talking shortly after he said this

Out for the season

[jelgoon]

I disagree and Ive seen him play most of his games (which admittedly isnt very many). We'll never win anything with him around - he's another Denilson. I hope he does play this season and reasonably well so we can flog him off somewhere at the end.

it seem to me Ach never seen diaby play. he is better than all of our midfield when fit. but then it has been long since he kicked a ball.

[Marc Overmars]

'With Abou Diaby returning, it will be like signing two new players. This season, the squad will be strong and competitive.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2180541/Jack-Wilshere-fit-October-says-Arsene-Wenger.html#ixzz220FzgdA2


WUMger. :bow:

[Master Splinter]

He's on stunning form this weekend.

[dazthegooner]

He's on stunning form this weekend.

That wont sway many people on this board ;)

[Syn]

Like it or not (I'm in the not) Diaby will be the first name on the teamsheet if he makes it through pre-season. Wumger loves him little bit much. It's going to be a Diaby-Song-Arteta midfield as long as Diaby lasts.

[dazthegooner]

Well I'm one of those that feel that if fit he should start on the bench it wouldn't be fair on the other players that have been fit and done a job, (within the capabilities that is) but I don't think he is a bad player, but he would need a run of games before he can be considered a first teamer.

[Globalgunner]

Diabys main problem is that he is careless in possession. i have never seen someone so well built but so easily robbed of the ball. He always introduces a weak link into prtocedings as our team is notoriously pathetic at reacting to turnovers. every time one of the midfield loses the ball anywhere on the park we cannot react in time. The midfileders will watch helplessly as the other team staem ahed and overcome our shell shocked defenders. It happens every time. United in particular know this flaw too well.

Problem with playing diaby is that you need another midfielder to cover for him. He would be great if other teams would allow us play 12 v 11

[fakeyank]

WUMger. :bow:

This guy pulls off the same shit year after year and still we have fans backing this douche. Somehow it is still 2004 in the heads of quite a lot of the fans!!

[Ollie the Optimist]

diaby on his day can be a brilliant player, he can ghost pass players as if they are not htere, he just needs games, honestly believe if he can do a van persie in terms of fitness this season, he will do a van persie in the fact he has the season of his life

[barrykamp]

diaby on his day can be a brilliant player, he can ghost pass players as if they are not htere, he just needs games, honestly believe if he can do a van persie in terms of fitness this season, he will do a van persie in the fact he has the season of his life

This is it really, in my opinion Diaby is one of the most technically gifted players we have - even if he doesn't always look it. Hopefully when/if we can sort his fitness he will be more grateful to us than RVP is.

[jelgoon]

I dont think so. Anyway its academic cos hell be injured in his first game. The only person who thinks he's any good is the senile, delusional Wenger


diaby on his day can be a brilliant player, he can ghost pass players as if they are not htere, he just needs games, honestly believe if he can do a van persie in terms of fitness this season, he will do a van persie in the fact he has the season of his life

[jelgoon]

I agree. For how much longer do we have to listen to Wenger telling us how the recovery of Rosicky, Diaby, Denilson etc is like a new signing. Sick of this utter nonsense.

This guy pulls off the same shit year after year and still we have fans backing this douche. Somehow it is still 2004 in the heads of quite a lot of the fans!!

[Ollie the Optimist]

also lets remeber that diabys injuries are not his fault, they all come from a thug who decided to break his leg

[Flavs]

I seriously know that Wenger knows that we hate this shit about new signings that's why he keeps saying it. He has stock phrases for the endless media questions and just rolls them out.

[selassie]

This is it really, in my opinion Diaby is one of the most technically gifted players we have - even if he doesn't always look it. Hopefully when/if we can sort his fitness he will be more grateful to us than RVP is.

"When....if...but....could...should...maybe....prob ably", Diaby is a fraud, he's on 70K per week and can't even string two games together. Sad thing is he's never really hit the heights to even justify anywhere near to that salary.

For me, Diaby is a Wenger "Vanity Project". He will continue to develop him irrespective of the consequences of the team. This boy has been on trial for years...yet Wenger persists with him and spouts nonsense about him being like a "new signing".

If we put him on the market nobody would touch him.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Fener are supposed to have offered £10m for him last summer.

Which would be gob-smacking if true.

As for Diaby, I'm not sold personally, even when he was fit.

[Syn]

Im not his biggest fan either but I can see the talent, and I do think if he ends this injury curse he will, similar to van persie - but not to the same extent, become an excellent performer. I could see that in the run of games he had alongside Cesc and Song in 09/10. Technical ability, he has. Strong physique, he has. A brain, he lacks. But 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

[Flavs]

Even I, as one of his biggest fans, think its time to cut him loose. He is of an age now where if he is to reach his potential he needs to be playing every game and he just isnt going to do that. Its terrible what has happened to his career but he is taking much needed money and a space in our squad. Move him on somehow please.

[Marc Overmars]

He's managed to get a full pre-season under his belt so I'd be tempted to give him one last shot this season.

Although I fully expect him to break down against Sunderland.

[Xhaka Can’t]

During the warm up.

[fakeyank]

I bet if he stays fit this season and plays the season of his life, he'd be wanting to leave Arsenal next season coz we are not showing enough ambition. Time to cut our losses before they turn into heartache!

[The Verminator]

I bet if he stays fit this season

A tenner bet nets you a tonne if that happens. :)

http://www.setantabet.com/setantabet?action=GoEvType&ev_class_id=195&ev_type_id=4275


Diaby Appearances 2012/13

Selection Odds

0-10 1/5

11-20 15/8

21-30 3/1

31 or more 10/1

[fakeyank]

Going to bet for this one!

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal midfielder Abou Diaby is ready to start enjoying his football again after recovering from a succession of injuries.

The 26-year-old has suffered from a series of problems since moving to the Emirates but now feels confident he can repay the faith shown to him by his team-mates and manager.

Ahead of Saturday's Premier League opener with Sunderland, the midfielder admitted he did find it difficult to remain positive after seeing his career blighted by fitness concerns.

He told the club's official website: "It’s never easy to deal with these situations, I love football, love playing the game, and just want to enjoy it.

"When you can’t do that it’s obviously really difficult, but what makes me stay focused is the passion I have for what I’m doing.

"Every morning when I wake up, I’m really happy to drive in to the training ground, come what may. I always wanted to play football at a high level so no matter what happened, if I was having a bad time I would just look forward constantly.

"At times like that it’s really important to have support from your manager, team-mates and the staff. I have to say thanks to all of them, because they’ve helped me a lot and I really appreciate it.”

With pre-season games under his belt during the Gunners' trips to Asia and Germany, Diaby believes he is in the best possible condition to have a successful season with the club.

He continued: "I’ve had a successful pre-season, I’ve been fit for every training session so far and I’m really happy with how things have gone.

"If you want to get through the whole year you need to have a good pre-season, and I haven’t had one like this for a long time.

"I’m really glad about that, and hope that the work I’ve done will see me through all of the season."

Think he'll start v Sunderland and last 17 minutes which is an improvement.

[Master Splinter]

Wenger on Diaby:


on Abou Diaby...

You can see it is massive for us because he is a tremendous football player. He has absolutely everything you want in midfield. He hasn't played for a year but he had a good pre-season where we had him 45 minutes every three days and now he looks in good shape. There is more to come from him but what he has shown today is very good.

on whether he was worried about him...

I was worried about him highly but I always stood behind him because not only is he a fantastic football player but a fantastic guy as well. Let's hope he survives the break because the national team travel a lot, play two games in four days and let's hope he comes back in good shape.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/-podolski-is-deadly-when-there-is-a-chance-

So who is Diaby currently signing a pre-contract agreement with?

[Unai Tea]

Have to say, Diaby was a real revelation today. If he can play as he did today consistently and stay off the treatment table I can understand why WUMger didn't try so hard to replace Song. I still think that's a big question mark at this stage but maybe, just maybe, he really puts in a good shift this season.

[Marc Overmars]

Never been his biggest fan but if he can replicate todays form throughout the season, we could have one heck of a player on our hands.

[Keith]

Can't believe he has been recalled by France.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Can't believe he has been recalled by France.

Why?

[Power n Glory]

Wenger wasn't talking rubbish when he said he's one of the first names on the French teamsheet.

[Marc Overmars]

Wenger wasn't talking rubbish when he said he's one of the first names on the French teamsheet.

To be fair he was a starter for them at the World Cup, they obviously rate him.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sounds like Diaby has put his performance in early this season.

[Syn]

To be fair he was a starter for them at the World Cup, they obviously rate him.

Got some major props off Shrek today too (unless predictive text changed Santi to Diaby). Sagna also piped up saying 'I told you so'.

I can see why he could be good but he is such a moron at times that you put him alongside Theo and Gerv as a bad decision-maker. Consistent performances like today would make him LANS. I never thought he had it in him to produce the Hleb reverse ball into Girrard.

[Keith]

Why?

Just surprised he has managed to play 90 minutes for 3 games plus pre-season and has not broken down yet, I expected that the French would have another player they knew was consistent rather than risking Diaby.

Hopefully his injuries are behind him, as he was great today

[Grebbo]

If he plays like today for every game of the season he'd be player of the season by a mile :coffee:

He was that good

But France will break him

:rose:

[V-Pig]

LANFS

[Cripps_orig]

He has done this many a time over the 6 years

Will be injured/shit for the next 6 months though

[BOBN]

raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
v.g. friend of mine had dinner with Arsène Wenger 2-3 years ago. asked him which player he rated most highly in his squad. answer: Diaby
World class talent, simple as that. he stays fit and we quite easily have the best central midfield in britain.

[selassie]

I'll admit I'm not a fan of Diaby but his performance yesterday was flawless, he totally controlled the middle of the park. Outstanding offensively and defensively.

Let's hope he can keep it up.

[Grebbo]

Wayne Rooney ‏@WayneRooney
Diaby is a player don't know why he doesn't play more games

I know football players are thick and Rooney especially so but surely he knows Diaby is either injured or playing shit most of the time?

Diaby is such a frustrating player, we've seen yesterday's kind of performance from him before. I remember a few years ago he played Man U off the pitch at their place only to end up scoring a ridiculous own goal.

If some **** hadn't broken his ankle he probably would have ironed out his brain fart tendencies years ago. Hopefully now he can fulfil his potential because when he's good he's unplayable.

How long has he got left on his contract??!!

[Cripps_orig]

Glad he played well but as i didnt watch it, i can safely say hes still a bit shit

[V-Pig]

I know football players are thick and Rooney especially so but surely he knows Diaby is either injured or playing shit most of the time?

I think Wayne Rooney was literally just acknowledging Diaby *is* a football player. You know, in the same way that he acknowledges a "nee-naw" by pointing a grubby finger at fire engines as they drive past him. He does the same thing with "woof-woofs" and "moo-moos" too. He's used to doing it because Coleen usually rewards his acute observational skills with an ice cream or by blowing a raspberry on his belly.

[AKBapologist]

For those wanting to see what all the fuss was about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH2qswi63R0

[Özim]

Always thought Diaby was a massive talent, ever since that CC final really where he was just controlled the match and really impressed. The problem with him has always been injuries, if he could stay fit he could be top notch, it's a very big if though.

[Mr. Lahey]

To be fair he was a starter for them at the World Cup, they obviously rate him.

its funny because the only people who dont rate him are Arsenal fans. I suppose thats mostly due to his injury record and thats justified. if we were to get rid, im sure there would be plenty of interest he is off to a solid start this season and is looking strong and confident. im pulling for him to have a solid injury free run, as we saw he has the ability to dominate games offensively and defensively.

[Dennis Bendtner]

He's exciting. I don't think there are many out there with his gifts. Very unique. Putting together his physical presence with his ability on the football. Yaya Toure comes to mind, but they are different. Yaya has more of a scent for goal but Diaby can play from deeper and is quicker and more skilful. That breed of midfielder was basically declared extinct for a while. On the Liverpool evidence he can really play box-to-box. Let's hope so, eh.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

He'd better not get injured on international duty this week

[Letters]

its funny because the only people who dont rate him are Arsenal fans.
He's a bit like Wenger in that respect.

[Niall_Quinn]

Six decent performances from this guy in six years. Now he makes it seven. While a seven year wait to reach a conclusion may not be viewed as premature I'm still surprised at the conclusion fans are reaching. On balance, when everything is taken into account, he's one of the shittiest, most pointless players we've ever had. However, if he can spectacularly turn around his appallingly deficient career and become the type of player a lot of people claim he is (based on one game) then good luck to him and good luck for us. Let's check again in May to see if he is on the way.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I think it is safe to say he is not the new Viera but he does have the ability to be a factor in games. Played well against 'pool which offers encouragement that we may be OK in midfield but what he suffers from the most is inconsistency not talent. The club chose not to replace Song, a mistake in my eyes but a decision we can no longer go back on. Obviously because they felt this guy could cope, and maybe he can, as I said he has the potential to be immense, itts time fir him to prove it on a more regular basis.

[Cripps_orig]

Six decent performances from this guy in six years. Now he makes it seven. While a seven year wait to reach a conclusion may not be viewed as premature I'm still surprised at the conclusion fans are reaching. On balance, when everything is taken into account, he's one of the shittiest, most pointless players we've ever had. However, if he can spectacularly turn around his appallingly deficient career and become the type of player a lot of people claim he is (based on one game) then good luck to him and good luck for us. Let's check again in May to see if he is on the way.
That is arguably the best post on here since the Liverpool squad

Diaby has been shit his whole Arsenal career with a handful of good games.

[server too busy!]

I can just see Diaby being the next transfer saga in 1-2 years time :(

[IBK]

Aye - this year's RVP??

[Marc Overmars]

I'd like to think Diaby would commit to us if his stock continued to rise, given that his career has been very limited with us and Wenget has always backed him to hilt.

Then again, after what happened with RVC nothing would surprise me anymore.

[Maestro]

That is arguably the best post on here since the Liverpool squad

Diaby has been shit his whole Arsenal career with a handful of good games.



:good: + 1

[V-Pig]

Interesting forum thread linked to by @afcamden.

http://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t24365-diaby-s-physical-trainer-for-past-4-months-talks

(From Diaby's trainer during rehabilitation)


Basically, he said the following:
- Diaby had massive muscular imbalance issues and the rehab at Arsenal was not done well (implied on second part).
- Diaby had one leg that was a footballer's and another leg that was fit for a 10 year old (exact quote).
- The last 3 months were spent to strengthen his injured areas and regain proper balance.
- Also spent a lot of time working on getting the body to release the scar tissue from his injuries, which created irritation, and to reestablish proper flexibility in those areas.

This trainer was the one who trained Diaby during his only injury-free season (2009-2010). After that, Arsenal wanted Diaby to use the club's training and recovery methods (because they're cheap). Only in the last 4 months did Diaby request and receive authorization to return to this trainer.

[Marc Overmars]

Diaby's trainer. :bow:

Arsenal medical team. :haha:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

swear van persie done the same? useless

[-Xs-]

Diaby's trainer. :bow:

Arsenal medical team. :haha:

They really are f'cking useless

2 weeks....

[Xhaka Can’t]

If this is true, the entire in-house team should be disbanded.

They will have cost us two titles. Minimum.

Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

[Niall_Quinn]

If this is true, the entire in-house team should be disbanded.

They are each on £70K a week I heard. They aren't a bad team, the real problem is contract negotiations. Every time they get a player fit it takes weeks (sometimes months) to negotiate their pay rise and perks.

[V-Pig]

One guy on that thread states that last season was the year van Persie started using his own trainer. It's also stated that you need the club's special permission to use your own trainer.

There's also a debate going on about the original OP's translation. Someone else claims the trainer isn't as directly critical of Arsenal and the OP states it was mostly implied (as the trainer didn't want to be banned from the club).

Also, after it was linked on Twitter... "Most users ever online was 2485 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:17 pm"

[V-Pig]

Also, everyone appears to be nice to each other on that forum. I bet they treat you right there. If we ever had a popular thread, people would read halfway down before encountering at least a dozen offensive jokes and curses.

GW :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Also, everyone appears to be nice to each other on that forum. I bet they treat you right there. If we ever had a popular thread, people would read halfway down before encountering at least a dozen offensive jokes and curses.

GW :bow:

You constantly condoning and advocating homosexuality is getting boring.

[Grebbo]

This video shows it's certainly not our facilities that's the problem:

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/medical-centre-opens-at-training-ground

The Doc even mentions Diaby near the end.

We have 5 full time physios as well.

It's our staff that are the problem.

I am surprised that Wenger didn't recruit our medical team from France and Germany given his background and the fact that they're regarded as the best in the world. Ours do look a bit like odd job men.

[V-Pig]

You constantly condoning and advocating homosexuality is getting boring.

Lol, "condoning".

...Are you coming on to me?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Scored Frances only goal one nil win over Finland

[toothless gibbon]

Did he play 90 mins for France?

[Cripps_orig]

yes

[fakeyank]

Also, everyone appears to be nice to each other on that forum. I bet they treat you right there. If we ever had a popular thread, people would read halfway down before encountering at least a dozen offensive jokes and curses.

GW :bow:

Whats wrong with offensive jokes and curses? :unsure:

[Alpha]

I'm not really surprised with Diaby breathtaking performance this season . It is a kind of deja vu at Arsenal . When a great player leaves immediately another one step over and take the mettle to lead the team . When Adams left , Vierra showed up . When Vierra quit ,Henry became the focal point . After Henry we saw Cesc , then Adebayor , then Van Persie came of age..etc..But this time we know someone with lead the team but it is very close call . In my opinion it may be Either Diaby or Carzola . But the whole team is showing some improvement which is a good sign .

[Keith]

So afcamden is reporting that Diaby is injured with a small muscular injury...

[Cripps_orig]

Diaby is fit

[Keith]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2201135/Abou-Diaby-injured-France.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[Cripps_orig]

AFCamden says otherwise

[Ollie the Optimist]

So afcamden is reporting that Diaby is injured with a small muscular injury...


i hope its nothing serious and i dont htink it is. diaby wont be able to play more then one game a week at the moment because he has been out to long, so hopefully he has just been sent back with a ryan giggs injury

[Cripps_orig]

An injured cock for screwing his brothers wife?

[Xhaka Can’t]

An injured cock for screwing his brothers wife?

That's what is known as a Giggsidy Giggsidy Do!

[-Xs-]

Well, that's Diabys work done for the season

Who's next?

[Boss]

He will be missed. :rose:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Well, that's Diabys work done for the season

Who's next?

it was ridiculous to call him up in the first place. some managers really are thick as shit. was it necessary to call diaby up for a couple of games when he's been crocked for the past 5 years? he seemed to have finally gotten over his injury trauma and the international break would have been a perfect opportunity to relax and heal after playing consecutive premier league fixtures for the first time in donkeys years. but didier desc*nt decided to call him up, jeopardise his long term fitness and the rest is history.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

it was ridiculous to call him up in the first place. some managers really are thick as shit. was it necessary to call diaby up for a couple of games when he's been crocked for the past 5 years? he seemed to have finally gotten over his injury trauma and the international break would have been a perfect opportunity to relax and heal after playing consecutive premier league fixtures for the first time in donkeys years. but didier desc*nt decided to call him up, jeopardise his long term fitness and the rest is history.

Didier wants the best possible team to play for france and diaby fits in with that so why should he not call him up. Holland used to do it all he time with RVP even though he was a sicknote.

Its just one of those things with players after they come back from internationals. Well ours anyways LOL.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

because diaby isn't any player, he's constantly crocked. it's common sense to look at the situation and see that it may have been better to leave him out. calling him up for 2 games may jeopardise his long term career. what's 2 games when he could have been rested and then gone onto 100 caps?

[Kano]

Didier wants the best possible team to play for france and diaby fits in with that so why should he not call him up. Holland used to do it all he time with RVP even though he was a sicknote.

Its just one of those things with players after they come back from internationals. Well ours anyways LOL.
why should he not? any common sense would say

'hold on a minute, this guy has hardly played football for a year and has spent YEARS on the sidelines trying to play matches. he has just come back, picking up some fitness and form. as france, we have loads of competent midfielders, so let's play the long game, let the man get strong and ready to play more than once a week and then call him up. by then, he will be a great player that we can use, instead of taking the short route and fucking him up never to be used again'.

deschamps is a fucking dickhead for calling him up.

[Syn]

I'm refusing to believe he actually is injured. We all joked about it being inevitable after the Liverpool game but surely it's just too easy for him to be injured right now. We've hardly had time to build our hopes up. It must be little bit precaution.

[LDG]

A new ankle three bit away weeks to like little four signing.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Deschamps basically said he has little hamstring. I'm chancing that we don't really need him for Southampton anyway.

[Niall_Quinn]

He will be like a new signing when he comes back.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Le Coq is straining at the leash.

It'll probably be Ramsby against Soton however.

[Master Splinter]

I'm sure The Coq is itching to get stuck in.

But Oxo in the middle is what the fans want to see.

Although that may mean Gervinho on the right.

[Syn]

Fucking hate Gervinho now. I really can't stand him these days. Sub-human scum. Darwin's a fraud; 'survival of the fittest' would've wiped pussies like him off the planet years ago.

[Master Splinter]

Take Quaresma's pointless skills, Hleb's fear of scoring and Theo's heightened pussiness and you have Yao Kouassi.

Wenger re-moulded rough diamonds like Henry, Adebayor and RVC into fantastic strikers. How come he can't teach Gervais Lombe the simple skill of squaring the ball to the nearest teammate when he has the half the pitch to himself?

FFS.

[Marc Overmars]

It was nice having Diaby back for his standard 3 game run.

See you next year Abou. :wave:

Lieutenant Ramsey will come in now.

[Xhaka Can’t]

It was nice having Diaby back for his standard 3 game run.

See you next year Abou. :wave:

Lieutenant Ramsey will come in now.

:crying:

[Kyle?]

It was nice having Diaby back for his standard 3 game run.

See you next year Abou. :wave:

Lieutenant Ramsey will come in now.

We're screwed

[milla]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8073450/Wenger-plays-down-Diaby-injury :faint:

[LDG]

A little satorious :rose:

[Power n Glory]

Don't risk him. Give Coquelin his chance so Diaby is ready for the midweek game. We have a big enough squad to rotate.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

wenger says 3 weeks.

and so it begins.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

All from having a shot, ridiculous.

[milla]

wenger says 3 weeks.

and so it begins.

Wumger should try Aneke to play Diaby's position. The same type of player, 6ft4, box to box, technically solid and as strong as ancient european bison. :coffee:

[Marc Overmars]

Do not forget we have Song who can play there.

Oh.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Made the diffrence him going off tbh.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Do not forget we have Song who can play there.

Oh.

Meh, Jack will be back soon.

[Cripps_orig]

Made the diffrence him going off tbh.

Chelsea dominated when he was on.

They dominated when he went off

Changed nothing him going off

[milla]

Do not forget we have Song who can play there.

Oh.

And Pingpong and Wheelchair and so on.. :coffee:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Wumger should try Aneke to play Diaby's position. The same type of player, 6ft4, box to box, technically solid and as strong as ancient european bison. :coffee:

:lol: dont, just dont.

[Cripps_orig]

Who the fuck is Aneke?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Chelsea dominated when he was on.They dominated when he went off

Changed nothing him going off

Never said they were not.

[Cripps_orig]

Never said they were not.

So what did you mean then by him going off made a difference?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

So what did you mean then by him going off made a difference?

Well was bringing on the Ox the right choice, did you think he had a good game. Maybe bringing on Theo and putting him up top may have been better.

However had Diaby stayed on i do think we would have benefited from his long legs in the 2nd half.

[milla]

Well was bringing on the Ox the right choice, did you think he had a good game. Maybe bringing on Theo and putting him up top may have been better.

However had Diaby stayed on i do think we would have benefited from his long legs in the 2nd half.

Pretty much, as soon as Diaby was taken out, we lost a lot of legs in midfield. Arteta and Cazorla are great but they have no legs to compete with more athletic Chelsea's midfield. :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

Fair enough

What exactly is wrong with the dude anyway this time?

[milla]

:lol: dont, just dont.

Er.. why not? the kid got few medals in his cabinet too.. Proven winner, even Barca and Madrid wants him. :coffee:

[Power n Glory]

Pretty much, as soon as Diaby was taken out, we lost a lot of legs in midfield. Arteta and Cazorla are great but they have no legs to compete with more athletic Chelsea's midfield. :coffee:

It's not those two, it's Ramsey. He's a fuck up. We had it last season when he played. There was no cohesion and no creativity through the middle. When he was dropped for Rosicky, the cohesion came back.

[Lord Nelson]

Meh! Pointless argument! We had another false dawn with Wenger and the useless injury prone cu##s and off we go again! Pissed off with the whole fucking thing TBH.

[Niall_Quinn]

Diaby can't kick a ball without getting injured. Not his fault I suppose, but just a fact of life. So get rid of him and get a player in that can kick a ball without getting injured. This seems sensible.

[Globalgunner]

No point starting a game with a player who has a 70% chance of not lasting the first half. He should only play COC games until he has become whole again. He is a waste of a place, sad but true.

[jelgoon]

Totally right. Ridiculous of Wenger to get rid of Song on the basis that Diaby would be a more-than-adequate replacement. Another example of AW having lost the plot completely.
Diaby can't kick a ball without getting injured. Not his fault I suppose, but just a fact of life. So get rid of him and get a player in that can kick a ball without getting injured. This seems sensible.

[jelgoon]

True - Ramsey just gets in the way.We rearly need a quality ball winner like Toure at the Mancs or Ramirez yetserday. Otherwiss its going be the same old shit again this season.
It's not those two, it's Ramsey. He's a fuck up. We had it last season when he played. There was no cohesion and no creativity through the middle. When he was dropped for Rosicky, the cohesion came back.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Totally right. Ridiculous of Wenger to get rid of Song on the basis that Diaby would be a more-than-adequate replacement. Another example of AW having lost the plot completely.

:doh:

[fakeyank]

Whats the diagnosis on the c*nt?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

A strong case of death.

[Marc Overmars]

Only wheelchair can save us now.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8129397/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-admits-he-has-taken-a-big-gamble-with-Abou-Diaby

ignorant prick, taking gambles and treating us like your toy. relying on a player who's played 20 games in about 5 years to help us through the season. and now we're relying on a player who's been out for 14 months to take his place.

how he's able to get away with things like this every year is a joke. £20m in the bank and we're taking naive gambles. you'd think using up 9 lives by getting through a whole season with only van persie as the striker would trigger some sort of precautionary action but this knob takes the same risks again.

forget jimmy savile, we have our own joke act here.

[IBK]

Whats the diagnosis on the c*nt?

Thigh muscle strain. Back 20th Oct (along with Szczesny and Rosicky).

[Olivier's xmas twist]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8129397/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-admits-he-has-taken-a-big-gamble-with-Abou-Diaby

ignorant prick, taking gambles and treating us like your toy. relying on a player who's played 20 games in about 5 years to help us through the season. and now we're relying on a player who's been out for 14 months to take his place.

how he's able to get away with things like this every year is a joke. £20m in the bank and we're taking naive gambles. you'd think using up 9 lives by getting through a whole season with only van persie as the striker would trigger some sort of precautionary action but this knob takes the same risks again.

forget jimmy savile, we have our own joke act here.


ignorant prick, taking gambles and treating us like your toy. relying on a player who's played 20 games in about 5 years to help us through the season. and now we're relying on a player who's been out for 14 months to take his place.

Thats why its called a gamble, you take them if you get the wrong you get them wrong, he has admirred he got it wrong, not much he can do now.

how he's able to get away with things like this every year is a joke. £20m in the bank and we're taking naive gambles.

Called Balancing the books.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

rubbish. he's taken too many gambles over the years and its cost us too many times.

everyone could see diaby getting injured a mile off.

[Marc Overmars]

Whilst you have to gamble to succeed, relying on someone like Diaby was just madness.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

rubbish. he's taken too many gambles over the years and its cost us too many times.

everyone could see diaby getting injured a mile off.


he's taken too many gambles over the years and its cost us too many times.


True.


everyone could see diaby getting injured a mile off.

True, im assuming Francis Coquelin was in his plans too, as well as Jack coming back. Not saying he should have gambled on Diaby, but i doubt he did not buy just cause of Diaby.

[IBK]

Presumably, the 'gamble' was selling Song. If it was, I don't think its affected us. We are mob-handed in midfield.

[GP]

I don't think selling a lazy crackhead is that much of a gamble really.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Presumably, the 'gamble' was selling Song. If it was, I don't think its affected us. We are mob-handed in midfield.

:gp:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

the gamble was not replacing song.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

the gamble was not replacing song.

Nah think selling RVP and not replacing him was a bigger gamble.

[IBK]

the gamble was not replacing song.

I think Arteta's made a great replacement.

[Power n Glory]

I don't think Wenger can deal with having a big squad and rotating players anyway. If we had all of these injured players available, he'd lose his mind and try all sorts of crazy crap. :lol:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

if arteta replaces song then we're still one man down in midfield.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Even though we have numbers in midfield I'm not sure we have the depth. Wengot spoke about the lack of physical players in our midfield after this latest injury. We know we were in for Sahin, and reportedly Cabaye late in the window, so there is (or was) at least an acknowledgement that despite the numbers, we might lack little bit super quality.

My fear now is that we run Arteta and Cazorla into the ground (red zone injuries ahoy). Diaby is out for 3 weeks minimum, and I'm not sure I want to see Ramsey in anything other than a Yossi Benayoun role. If we lost either of Aterta or Carzola as well, shit could really get real.

[Cripps_orig]

Still amazes me how he can get injured by kicking a ball.

Wtf?

He needs to go

[fakeyank]

Dont worry guys.. Rosicky will take his place! :lol:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Even though we have numbers in midfield I'm not sure we have the depth. Wengot spoke about the lack of physical players in our midfield after this latest injury. We know we were in for Sahin, and reportedly Cabaye late in the window, so there is (or was) at least an acknowledgement that despite the numbers, we might lack little bit super quality.

My fear now is that we run Arteta and Cazorla into the ground (red zone injuries ahoy). Diaby is out for 3 weeks minimum, and I'm not sure I want to see Ramsey in anything other than a Yossi Benayoun role. If we lost either of Aterta or Carzola as well, shit could really get real.

legitimate argument.

my main concern is having to rush jack which could end up in him getting hatton'd. then we're stuffed.

another concern is that we're now going to see the opposition use the 'get in their faces' tactic like they did a couple of seasons back. with no diaby in the midfield we have no enforcer, someone who's willing to stick a foot in. teams will see that so will base their tactics on kicking us off the park. add to that our sudden vulnerability from crosses and we're no better than previous years.

and we're also an arteta injury from finishing outside the top 4. which angers me more- we rode our luck with van persie last season yet wenger has taken the same chances and is willing to make the same mistakes.

[GP]

Oup Coq can fill that hole.

[IBK]

Even though we have numbers in midfield I'm not sure we have the depth. Wengot spoke about the lack of physical players in our midfield after this latest injury. We know we were in for Sahin, and reportedly Cabaye late in the window, so there is (or was) at least an acknowledgement that despite the numbers, we might lack little bit super quality.

My fear now is that we run Arteta and Cazorla into the ground (red zone injuries ahoy). Diaby is out for 3 weeks minimum, and I'm not sure I want to see Ramsey in anything other than a Yossi Benayoun role. If we lost either of Aterta or Carzola as well, shit could really get real.

Legitimate point - but its the old issue of not being able to keep top players happy on the bench. My guess would be that AW sees Coquelin ready to step up to DM. Clearly, he's regarded as a first team player now. Frimpong is also back up.

I accept that AW is taking probably his final risk with Diaby. The issue is really whether he should have got rid and bought a Sahin or M'Villa - rather than get them in addition. After all, we have a wage bill to manage as well - not to mention that Wilshere will basically play in the same space (albeit a different type of player). Ramsey can also play there.

Attacking-wise, Jack could be used higher up the pitch to save Carzola. Rosicky and Arshavin can also deputise - in fact I would like to see the latter player in the Carzola role.

[Marc Overmars]

Wenget has confirmed Diaby is out for 3 weeks.

[LDG]

Wenget has confirmed Diaby is out for 3 weeks.

Dear lord.

[Fist of Lehmann]

another concern is that we're now going to see the opposition use the 'get in their faces' tactic like they did a couple of seasons back. with no diaby in the midfield we have no enforcer, someone who's willing to stick a foot in. teams will see that so will base their tactics on kicking us off the park.
I'm less concerned by that.

If this team allows itself to be bullied, then no single 'enforcer' can alter that. Nor would 1 player significantly alter opposition tactics if those tactics have proven to work. Combatting physical tactics requires the whole team to compete, a more physical player helps in that regard, but isn't in himself a fix.

Neither Sahin or Cabaye are what I would call enforcers, but would have added depth. The 3 midfielder formation we use seems to contain increasingly specialised roles, and it requires either a large pool of midfielders or a few super quality versatile ones. Arteta is pivotal in the pivote, Cazorla critical in the CAM.

Our inability to compensate for Arteta's occasional absence last season, or Fabregas permanent one suggests to me that just because a player can play in a position, doesn't mean they'll be adequate there.

[Globalgunner]

Incompetence of the highest order. This team has Diaby, Rosicky on its roster, players who cant play a month of football w.o requiring 3 months off it. Yet he keeps making them part of his core plans. Wenger man will win nothing in the time left on his current deal. If this man is given a new contract, I swear I will do harm to someone. Ach.LDG..u have been warned.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Legitimate point - but its the old issue of not being able to keep top players happy on the bench. My guess would be that AW sees Coquelin ready to step up to DM. Clearly, he's regarded as a first team player now. Frimpong is also back up.

I accept that AW is taking probably his final risk with Diaby. The issue is really whether he should have got rid and bought a Sahin or M'Villa - rather than get them in addition. After all, we have a wage bill to manage as well - not to mention that Wilshere will basically play in the same space (albeit a different type of player). Ramsey can also play there.

Attacking-wise, Jack could be used higher up the pitch to save Carzola. Rosicky and Arshavin can also deputise - in fact I would like to see the latter player in the Carzola role.

I don't disagree with anything you just said IBK (except for the Arshavin bit - Cazorla's workrate and his care with the ball is light years ahead of the Russian).

The issue of keeping top players on the bench is a problem, but at least having top players in reserve allows you to rotate without losing too much quality, nor should they require much game time to get up to speed.
What we have now is a situation where if Arteta and Cazorla are fit then they play, COC and dead Euro rubbers excepted, because our backups are a significant drop in class. We played Wilshire to death because his backup was Denilson.

Players in general aren't happy if they don't play, even guys like Coq who was making noises during the InterBreak, so I don't have a solution.
I agree with Wenger to the extent that, no you can't buy just to cover an injury. But when you think about it, Wilshere and Frimpong are coming off lengthy injuries, Rosicky and Diaby have long and storied injury histories. Which is why a loan was considered I think.

Cabaye is a player I like, and there was talk of being back in for him in Jan, however the real stretch period was the first 3 months of the season. If Jack comes back fit, I think Wenget will be tempted to leave it.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Wenger said in an interview yesterday that he decided to take a gamble on diaby's fitness by not replacing Song.

That is just down right incompetence. I wouldnt expect any top flight manager to take such a risk if they had the finances and opportunity to buy a replacement - which we had.

This season isnt the time for more patience, it is the time for action.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19802166

I think its more to do with Diaby being a bit shit physically and being injury prone than him playing for France

[fakeyank]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19802166

I think its more to do with Diaby being a bit shit physically and being injury prone than him playing for France

Wenger will blame anyone and everyone for his incompetence- Les Blues, Chelsea, Man City, 2%, neighbors dog etc. Bottom line is that he took a gamble on a player to carry us the entire season when he could barely put together a total of 90 mins last season. Sometimes I wonder how the cow got his MBA!

[Syn]

Yeah, Wenget can fuck off on that one. How come Alex Ferguson never gets into this situation? He tell his players to play dead during the International break and there's nothing anyone can do. If Wenger tells Diaby "Turn down the call-up, say you're little bit knock on right ankle swollen up globally, or else I'll freeze you out worse than Theodore" then Diaby won't go anywhere. I have it on good authority the conversation actually went:

Wenget: Turn down the call-up?
Diaby: Nah....
Wenget: Go on, please...?
Diaby: Nah....
Wenget: Ok. Want a new contract?
Diaby: Go on then.
Wenget: Now turn down the call-up?
Diaby: Nah...

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yeah, Wenget can fuck off on that one. How come Alex Ferguson never gets into this situation? He tell his players to play dead during the International break and there's nothing anyone can do. If Wenger tells Diaby "Turn down the call-up, say you're little bit knock on right ankle swollen up globally, or else I'll freeze you out worse than Theodore" then Diaby won't go anywhere. I have it on good authority the conversation actually went:

Wenget: Turn down the call-up?
Diaby: Nah....
Wenget: Go on, please...?
Diaby: Nah....
Wenget: Ok. Want a new contract?
Diaby: Go on then.
Wenget: Now turn down the call-up?
Diaby: Nah...

:haha:

Wenget :rose: