Match Reaction v Chelsea

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

but a good keeper would cover it anyway. he should have moved just in case kos didnt deal with it.

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Thats just it he is not, fine to play for hull but if we want to be winning stuff, like WW says with players like him we won't.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

but a good keeper would cover it anyway. he should have moved just in case kos didnt deal with it.

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i dont think you've ever played in goal because if you had you'd know its not as easy as that. you cant follow the ball because a slight touch off the defender can take it the other way. you've got to stay rooted for as long as possible until you're sure the ball will not deviate. unfortunately it's usually too late by then and it ends up in the back of the net, so you cant put any blame on the keeper. instead you need to look at the defending and analyse a) the positioning and b) why the ball wasnt stopped early.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Pretty much

Keepers cant go for those balls unless they are mind readers and expect everyone to miss them.

Kos fucked up, Mannone didnt

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so a keeper should not move to where the ball will land in case his defender misses it but instead stay rooted to the spot.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

but a good keeper would cover it anyway. he should have moved just in case kos didnt deal with it.

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I agree mannone should have covered it, but if you watch it again Gibbs was fouled by ivanovic as the ball came in. He would have been best placed to cut it out. Two very very poor goals to concede anyway.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

i dont think you've ever played in goal because if you had you'd know its not as easy as that. you cant follow the ball because a slight touch off the defender can take it the other way. you've got to stay rooted for as long as possible until you're sure the ball will not deviate. unfortunately it's usually too late by then and it ends up in the back of the net, so you cant put any blame on the keeper. instead you need to look at the defending and analyse a) the positioning and b) why the ball wasnt stopped early.

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mannone didnt even move, thats criminal. he should have saved it. simple as. the defending was awful, from giving away the free kick to actually defending the free kick. blame to everyone for that

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

but a good keeper would cover it anyway. he should have moved just in case kos didnt deal with it.

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Could've been even more of a calamity then as they may have collided. Anyway, the 2nd goal was poor to concede but those sort of freekicks can always be dangerous if the whip is good. Mata has brilliant tekkers for set pieces.

The first goal was weak as fuck though and should've been dealt with.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

mannone didnt even move, thats criminal. he should have saved it. simple as. the defending was awful, from giving away the free kick to actually defending the free kick. blame to everyone for that

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did you read my post? it explains why he couldnt move.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

so a keeper should not move to where the ball will land in case his defender misses it but instead stay rooted to the spot.

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And had Kos diverted the ball and it went in where Mannone was, you'd be the first to moan that Mannone should have stayed where he was

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

did you read my post? it explains why he couldnt move.

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Remember who youre replying to

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Originally Posted by Ach

And had Kos diverted the ball and it went in where Mannone was, you'd be the first to moan that Mannone should have stayed where he was

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no i would have slated kos for it. then this brings in communication doesnt it. kos was unchallenged, why did mannone not make a call?