Everton: Robles, Coleman, Stones, Distin, Baines, McCarthy, Barry, Mirallas, Barkley, Pienaar, Lukaku.
Subs: Hibbert, McGeady, Deulofeu, Naismith, Osman, Howard, Browning.
Referee: Mark Clattenburg (Tyne & Wear)
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ITV gave Flamini a cake with candles signifying every season we hadn't won a trophy. WTF?
I don't know i don't think it is too simplistic, on an individual game by game basis if you go to a football match you go to watch your team win and to be entertained, but in the final analysis though the hope of any football supporter is that their team wins trophies. For me the desire to see Arsenal win a trophy superseeds anything else....i appreciate that your saying that there is no real pleasure if the team has just bought it's way to success but there is a grey area even with that. Would I feel in the back of my mind had we gone down the city/chelsea route that we had won silverware illegitimately?....yeah probably, but i'd still be happy we won something even if it was done in a bit of an underhand way.
This prat who supports Plymouth said he wanted us to lose on the Lawrensen prediction thing because we moan about not winning trophies and it's a bit spoilt compared to his aspirations for his club, the desire for any football fan is a trophy however yes as a Plymouth fan there is a much greater divergence between desire and expectancy.
The thing is as supporters of Arsenal our expectancy is much higher, we pay the highest ticket prices in Europe, on top of that we as a club have just signed two of the most financially lucrative sponsorship deals in footballing history....the infrastructure of the club has it that we can to some degree compete in the transfer market with chelsea and man city and without being bankrolled by a ominious benefactor.
We are not in a position to hold our hands up and say silverware is not possible, can we expect to win the league year in year out...obviously not, can we expect to challenge for it until the bitter end year in year out....yes actually i think we are entitled to expect that.
Again with Sanogo?....i'm sorry but just because he's enthusiastic and runs around a lot doesn't mean he has the required quality. The guy is League 2 quality....i don't want to be overly critical because i respect his desire and enthusiasm but at this level you either have it or you don't and he doesn't.
I would argue, that he had it when we played versus the best team in the World... Everton should be nothing for him :)
"I left to win trophies"
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