Match Reaction vs Sunderland (away)

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Originally Posted by Letters

Whilst I kinda agree there are times he could have a shot, that is the least of our problems.
A competent striker would be running riot with his assists. The solution is surely to get a competent striker, not get rid of one of our most effective players.
It's like driving with the handbrake on, to coin a phrase, and then blaming the engine for not being able to work effectively rather than the handbrake for hindering progress.

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I'm not suggesting we get rid of Ozil. I think we need a striker regardless. If we had signed Suarez or Higauin instead of Ozil in 2013, we'd have probably won the title that season as well. I don't think Ozil is an essential player. We were creating chances before he arrived, we'd create chances when he's gone. We're missing goals and that special player that can win you a match.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

What are we focusing on? The message or the person? Do we need some manicured fop to deliver the message? Is this why politics has stuck?

He's right. Isn't that what matters? Some people are against him because they don't like the way he delivers the truth. But the truth doesn't care, it is still the truth. If people think they can do a better job the have at it. But let's not be criticising the people who are in the right and up off their arse doing something. Far better to criticise those who can't be bothered. After all, it is that majority of easy riders who keep Wenger in a job.

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It seems personal. He's already said he's getting abuse on Twitter. What's he's said is spot on.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

You're not explaining anything. It's not his game to try and have a go on goal? What? Is he incapable of shooting? Is it not something he can improve on in training? Do attacking midfielders not shoot? It not being his game isn't an explanation. It's an excuse. Dragging up stats with the chances he's created is misleading also because there isn't one chance created today that was so good we should have definitely scored. Can you think of any? Can anyone think of absolute sitters we've been missing lately? I can't.

But let's assume 'shooting' isn't a part of his game. It's why I'm not that bothered if he leaves because it's more essential that we have someone that can be more influential on the outcome of a game in that position. We've never been a team that's struggled to create chances under Wenger. I don't think Ozil is essential to that blueprint. Especially when it's not helping us solve the one issue we've wrestled with for almost a decade now. Teams parking the bus. An effective weapon to use against that tactic is to shoot from outside the box and that's also what we need. Ok, shooting isn't one of Ozil's strengths and it's not his game but you can use that excuse for any player. Giroud's not quick or mobile. It's not his game! Ramsey isn't great at picking the smart pass, it's not his game! We've got plenty of players with flaws but if we're looking at areas where we can improve, I don't see why Ozil is exempt from that.

Also, I'm not making out as if that's a priority either. That's something you've hedged into the argument. First person to go should be Wenger. That's been said enough on here. But for anyone that has had enough of the tippy tappy mentality, you have to look at players like Ozil. He really is a pussy to be frank. He's not a leader and if you're talking about collective responsibility, he has to be roped in and mentioned regardless of how many chances he's created. Giroud and Ozil are bad combination because you've got to players stationed right in front of the opponents goal that overplay. Both trying flicks and first time touches as soon as they receive the ball and it's a bad combination. If Ozil wasn't so light, I'd rather he played further back as CM with Cazorla or Wilshere playing ahead behind Giroud.

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Ozils primary function is as a goal provider, if you want to break it down to basics. He's providing the oportunity for goals and the players aren't taking it. Would it be nice if he scored more goals ? Of course but again if he's outscored every other midfielder in the squad what does it say about them, when as I repeat his job is to provide goals first and foremost.

That you have said you'd not be worried if Ozil left makes me think, although there are people out there who are better than the manager in their judgement there are also a lot worse.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to lose a player with his assist rates even with the dross in front of him.

As for leaders we do need more, but it doesn't necessitate every player being a leader....just because no one else on the pitch has leadership characteristics it doesn't seem relevant to knock Ozil for his....we aren't making him Captain.

End of the day as far as I'm concerned the fact that you are bemoaning him for not shooting more illustrates the problem we have up front, otherwise why would you want Ozil to take a shot on when he's good enough to find a player with a pass that no other player could see to make and that the defence can't intercept.

This is what he does, and I think if we want to progress whoever is sitting in the dugout for us, Ozil is a must keep player.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

It seems personal. He's already said he's getting abuse on Twitter. What's he's said is spot on.

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He's mind boggingly thin skinned, he takes everything as abuse

He got uppity with me when I pointed out he'd used several words out of their proper context.

I'm sorry but if you don't know what a word means, don't use it just to sound clever.

I don't buy into this mentality that we should all be pals just because we support the same club, fuck that....there are just as many atrocious hell ends who support this club as any other.

You know it's got really dire when a fucking muppet like DT is the voice of the fanbase.

DT just destroyed GeoffArsenal

He got banned from this talk show and managed to get on (one of the others probably invited him in) and went raging :haha:

time stamped when he gets on.

https://youtu.be/kuAfBce5SHA?t=5209

'You're a convicted ticket tout' :haha:

GeoffArsenal talks so much shite it's crazy. Fuck these AKBs :lol:

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I'm sorry but if you don't know what a word means, don't use it just to sound clever.

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I conquer.

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Originally Posted by Munchies

DT just destroyed GeoffArsenal

He got banned from this talk show and managed to get on (one of the others probably invited him in) and went raging :haha:

time stamped when he gets on.

https://youtu.be/kuAfBce5SHA?t=5209

'You're a convicted ticket tout' :haha:

GeoffArsenal talks so much shite it's crazy. Fuck these AKBs :lol:

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Does DT have no shame?

Really embarrassed himself there.

How frustrating must it be for some our players to see Ramsey inserted right back into the lineup. When our attack was actually starting to have rhythm and flow.:angry:

This is the 4th best fan revolution I've seen :bow: