Match Reaction v Spurs (Home - PL 16/17)

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

What game or what run of games would convince you?

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And can I add to that, HCZ, have you seen anything which makes you think we can't?

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

What game or what run of games would convince you?

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I would say getting something from one or both of the Manchester games (at the very least not losing both of them) and winning tougher away games like West Ham and Everton in December

Finishing top of our champions league group

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Originally Posted by Letters

And can I add to that, HCZ, have you seen anything which makes you think we can't?

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I think there are times where we have struggled to break teams who sit deep down - Burnley, Middlesbrough etc

Been sloppy defensively

None of this is evidence that we "can't win" but it certainly doesn't give me much belief that we can.

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I think that's fair enough.

For me while we're in the mix I feel we have a chance.

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Originally Posted by Letters

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I think that's fair enough.

For me while we're in the mix I feel we have a chance.

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Ever the optimist you are.

I would love to be pleasantly surprised, but until we actually do it, I will assume complete meltdown at some point which see's us throw it all away.

I'm pretty worried about our run in - think it's Spurs away and City at home in our last 4 games.
That's what I think could do for us. But I do think we've got the best squad we've had for a long time this year.

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Originally Posted by Letters

I'm pretty worried about our run in - think it's Spurs away and City at home in our last 4 games.
That's what I think could do for us. But I do think we've got the best squad we've had for a long time this year.

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I used to have your optimism, but it's been knocked out of me.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I would say getting something from one or both of the Manchester games (at the very least not losing both of them) and winning tougher away games like West Ham and Everton in December

Finishing top of our champions league group

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Last season we had a brief spell where we beat Utd and Bayern in close succession, we didn’t lose to City last season and beat them at home, we beat Everton away…..For me, there isn’t a single game or run that can convince me that we’ll win the league. That’s not saying I don’t hope we’ll win. It’s just all very slippery because we could easily look the business around Christmas, beat the big teams and fall away in January. There isn’t a bench mark game you can point to with us that indicates we’ve finally clicked. Last season should have been an eye opener. Not saying we all have to remain pessimistic until the season is over but we’ve been around the block with this team so many times you just have to wait to see what happens at the end of the season. It doesn’t matter who we beat this month, next month or whenever if we’re not at the top of the table after 38 games.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Last season we had a brief spell where we beat Utd and Bayern in close succession, we didn’t lose to City last season and beat them at home, we beat Everton away…..For me, there isn’t a single game or run that can convince me that we’ll win the league. That’s not saying I don’t hope we’ll win. It’s just all very slippery because we could easily look the business around Christmas, beat the big teams and fall away in January. There isn’t a bench mark game you can point to with us that indicates we’ve finally clicked. Last season should have been an eye opener. Not saying we all have to remain pessimistic until the season is over but we’ve been around the block with this team so many times you just have to wait to see what happens at the end of the season. It doesn’t matter who we beat this month, next month or whenever if we’re not at the top of the table after 38 games.

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It's the run of games between now and the end of the year - Utd (a), Bournemouth (h), West Ham (a), Stoke (h), Everton (a), Man City (a), West Brom (h), Crystal Palace (h)

I think we need to be looking to get 19 out of 24 points from those games, so that would include for me winning at West Ham and Everton and getting something from one of the Manchester games.

It's about being able to grind out results when playing tougher opposition and still be in contention when we have played two of our more difficult fixtures.

Don't get me wrong i won't immediately think we will win the title if we do get those points, but it puts us in contention with 43 points from 19 games...considering with the exception of Leicester teams have needed 85+ points for the title the last few years it is a minimum goal.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

What game or what run of games would convince you?

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It's not one game or a run of games. It's the manner of the performances. We've played, what, two, three decent games this season so far? The rest has been dire. Yes, we picked up points but if we expect to keep doing that on the back of the awful defending, the plodding midfield and the wastefulness in front of goal we're dreaming. The other factor is, as always, pressure. You'd back us all day long to fuck up every time we get that opportunity to bat a bit of pressure back on our opponents. When you think how many times our major rivals have had to rebuild through periods of new management and you compare it to the so-called stability we have here it's a fucking joke. Wenger is taking the piss. Again, we have Utd, the gypos and the chavs all working through a management change. We see Klopp (the manager that we should have now) starting to add a bit of consistency to what was a shower of shite. This should be another glorious chance for us but we won't take it. People might be saying, yeah let's wait and see (AGAIN!) but nobody is saying right, I feel confident, let's do this. And that's all down to one guy.