Summer Transfer Shit and Everything Else

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Originally Posted by Letters

You understand that the way we speak is influenced by our peers and friends, right?
I say "Really?!" when I'm exasperated by something because of a colleague at work who used to. And now my son does.
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I'm currently working with a lady who grew up in Australia, came over here at around 10 with an Aussie accent which she says was "bullied out of her". She now speaks quite posh, like.
What is your anyone's actual problem with any of this?

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I just believe preciseness of speech reflects clarity of thought, and adopting this semi pidgin West Indian dialect is hugely bizarre.

And I’m saying I don’t think it’s a gradual evolution thing, I think it comes from silly kids listening to a certain type of music and wanting to be Gangsta boys

Australian accent is appalling, I’m glad it was corrected

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Originally Posted by Letters

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That’s because you can’t change your height without painful and damaging physical correction

We aren’t talking about left handed people here, we are talking about a fad adaptation

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

That’s because you can’t change your height without painful and damaging physical correction

We aren’t talking about left handed people here, we are talking about a fad adaptation

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Left handedness is a much better analogy (and one that also applies to Letters, IIRC? :d) and yes, that's exactly what we're talking about.

Do some people imitate MLE because it makes them sound cooler? Sure, probably. Same way I sometimes use my left hand to drink. Doesn't make Letters any less genuine in his left-handedness, and it doesn't make any native speaker of MLE any less authentic.

Also why do you think MLE speakers are any less precise in what they say than RP? Seems a strange assumption to make.

Speak how you want to. When you want to. But have the intelligence to know when to open your mouth, and when to shut the fuck up.

Goes for typing too btw.

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Originally Posted by WMUG

Left handedness is a much better analogy (and one that also applies to Letters, IIRC? :d) and yes, that's exactly what we're talking about.

Do some people imitate MLE because it makes them sound cooler? Sure, probably. Same way I sometimes use my left hand to drink. Doesn't make Letters any less genuine in his left-handedness, and it doesn't make any native speaker of MLE any less authentic.

Also why do you think MLE speakers are any less precise in what they say than RP? Seems a strange assumption to make.

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That’s the same kind of argument of saying being born with a cock doesn’t make you any less genuine a woman. People are left handed due to development in early years, it’s rarely a conscious choice.

Either imprecise or incomprehensible take your pick

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Originally Posted by LDG

Speak how you want to. When you want to. But have the intelligence to know when to open your mouth, and when to shut the fuck up.

Goes for typing too btw.

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I hope that in time, you develop such a wisdom

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

I hope that in time, you develop such a wisdom

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Cock off penis breath

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

That’s the same kind of argument of saying being born with a cock doesn’t make you any less genuine a woman. People are left handed due to development in early years, it’s rarely a conscious choice.

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It's in fact the exact opposite. If we take your example, I'm making the argument that just because some people born with a penis claim to be women (people imitating MLE), that doesn't make a cis woman (native MLE speaker, regardless of race) any less of a woman.

Just because I might use a word from MLE that I wouldn't normally use just because it sounds cool, doesn't mean ESR isn't speaking authentically.

And the left-handedness example fits quite well here too (thanks for that, btw! So much better than height). My friend who grew up in China was born left-handed, but had it beaten out of him. He now uses his right hand to write. That doesn't mean my being right handed is any less natural than it is.

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Either imprecise or incomprehensible take your pick

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It's only incomprehensible if you don't understand it. The people who speak it natively understand it perfectly well. Same as Geordie, Scouse, American English, Spanish or Igbo. How much you understand any way of speaking depends on your exposure to it.

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Originally Posted by WMUG

It's in fact the exact opposite. If we take your example, I'm making the argument that just because some people born with a penis claim to be women (people imitating MLE), that doesn't make a cis woman (native MLE speaker, regardless of race) any less of a woman.

Just because I might use a word from MLE that I wouldn't normally use just because it sounds cool, doesn't mean ESR isn't speaking authentically.

And the left-handedness example fits quite well here too (thanks for that, btw! So much better than height). My friend who grew up in China was born left-handed, but had it beaten out of him. He now uses his right hand to write. That doesn't mean my being right handed is any less natural than it is.



It's only incomprehensible if you don't understand it. The people who speak it natively understand it perfectly well. Same as Geordie, Scouse, American English, Spanish or Igbo. How much you understand any way of speaking depends on your exposure to it.

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Slang of any kind is an unsophisticated way of communicating

I know that our modern society teaches us that we need to embrace all differences, but some things are naturally inferior.

Apart from anything else the silly people who speak in gushing terms about diversity, are the people unwittingly promoting cultures that are rigidly socially conservative, hyper masculine, racist, homophobic and misogynistic.

Which is supposed to be the kind of things they are against….which speaks to the quixotic nature of their beliefs

It’s not to say people who talk in dialects are less intelligent, but they are choosing to communicate in a less sophisticated way…which speaks volumes to the contradictory creatures human beings are I suppose

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Originally Posted by LDG

Cock off penis breath

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Oh dear, it really shouldn’t be that easy to bait you. Something you need to work on perhaps