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Cairney wins a freekick, should have done better on the counter-attack really.
Marshall's freekick, straight at Pantilimon.
Richards. :lol:
Not sure he was kicked in the head.
Into row dz
Man City 1-0 Blackburn, Negredo.
Sylar from Heros scores again :(
And again.
2-0
Man City 2-0 Blackburn, Negredo with his second.
And back to the snooker.
Negredo has got to be the signing of the summer, turning out to be a snip.
Come on Blackeye.
King should have made it 2-1.
How can a corner not be given? :lol:
Man City 3-0 Blackburn, Dzeko.
Man City 4-0 Blackburn, Aguero. :lol: Only just came on.
5-0, Dzeko with his second.
This Man City side never let up, they really put teams to the sword once they have them on the ropes.....probably good for confidence too knocking in goals left right and centre.
you do know this is an FA cup replay right? its probably not that good for confidence knowing they are playing tonight because they failed to beat a championship team at the first attemptQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
Scoring goals gives players more confidence.
city beat a championship side at the second attempt. well done them
They haven't just been spanking them in tonight though have they?
why do you always defend city? yes they've been scoring lots of goals at home, but they keep failing away from home. this time cost hundreds of millions of pounds and people are wanking over them for beating a championship side in a replay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I made a comment about them putting teams to the sword, they do.
You said it was a replay against a Championship side and doesn't matter.
I said they've been doing it against lots of other teams.
It's not defending them it's stating facts, money is irrelevant from a pure footballing point of view (the way I look at it) they're a ruthless side who score a hatful of goals and generally play great attacking football. Pellegrini is a top manager and obviously there was going to be a settling in period, they are starting win away now however.
My personal opinion is from a pure footballing point of view they set the bar and are the team to beat. Chelsea are too but I don't think we'll see the best of them until next season when Mourinho has his team setup as he wants it.
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yeah of course, money is totally irrelevant here. its not like city spent 100's of millions to buy players who can play football like that. nope not in the slightest.
I don't really care about the money, it's part and parcel of football nowadays and it's not going to change, you need to accept it and get over it. Based on that we need forget about it and stop feeling sorry for ourselves and get on with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
It's all relative anyway, sure they have spent a lot but there's always been big clubs with greater resources outspending other clubs, it's just been magnified now due to the bigger transfer fees, Italian sides use to spend a hatful on players in the 90's an won stack loads of trophies.
justifying spending on players like city and chelsea do :lol:
there is no justification. you can only do that when you are backed by oil money, city and chelsea could have stadium debts etc and not care about it because they are bankrolled by so much oil money they can pay them off and spend 100's of millions each season. no other clubs in england can. thats not a level playing field at all. its not even competing with greater resources. who else can spend 25 million on jovetic and not play him? who else can sell a player for 3 million and resign them at 20 million and not care about it.
and?
Maybe we should just get a huge benefactor and join in, will that keep you happy? If not then you need to get over it and move on.
I can't be asked to focus on the money, I prefer to look at how the teams play, we've got plenty of resources ourselves so we're hardly the paupers of the football world.
City is a once distinguished now despicable club that has been hijacked by arabs who stole a fortune based on some archaic notion they have a God given right to gather the resources of a nation into their own hands. They have tried to use the proceeds of their immoral activities to buy some sort of respectability in the UK, via ownership of what was once a football club. Because the FA is staffed by weak, greedy and incompetent cowards these arabs have achieved their goals, technically speaking, though surely nobody is really fooled?
Even with the obscene amounts of money they have ploughed into the attempted purchase of titles and trophies they have come up laughably short, beaten by a mediocre Man Utd last season and headed by an Arsenal in transition this year, not to mention a series of humiliations in the Champions League. It really is comedy stuff, like a heavyweight constantly being knocked out by a featherweight - you'd laugh your arse off if that happened but because there so much money in the equation people barely mention just how poorly they have performed comparatively.
Now they have ploughed hundreds of millions more into their efforts and by trail and error have eventually managed to staff almost every place in the squad with high fee/ high salary mercenaries to the extent they are virtually immune from the effects of injuries, suspensions and general fatigue.
If this is achievement of any kind then why not find the next boy scout selling lemonade, whip out your wallet and set up a bigger stand and put the kid out of business then gloat about it? See how it feels to be al-manchester city. Of course some people admire them for this, hard to know why but they do.
As for Arsenal, as much as we have all hated it, they run the club as a proper business. There is absolutely no comparison between the two in terms of business practices and the spirit of the game in general. The arabs are trying to buy what we already have, but they'll find their money can't buy everything.
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Unfortunately we cant do much about this :(
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The question I always ask people like you. Is how can clubs, like what City used to be, get to our level without some sort off "money ain't a thing" Billionaire coming in and spending big.
It's all well and good to criticize City, Chelsea, PSG, and Monaco. But what's the other option. Small to mid level clubs, simply can't get to title winning levels the old fashion ways anymore, it's not possible.
Southampton are one off the Clubs doing it the "right" way, but best believe their best players at the moment, won't be there in a couple years. They'll be at Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Us, United, etc. Why, because they are gonna get paid more, and have a chance at the title, bigger endorsements, and so on.
The fact is we can sit here and bitch about City, Chelsea, and the likes, but what else are they supposed to do. The problem is not City. Chelsea etc. Is this system we have where only a certain few will ever have a chance at success.
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Get out :lol:
Even gooners are buying into it.
Ther reason we are where we are, is that the people that run our club (like them or loathe them) have made very astute decisions over a long period of time. We breed it. We make it essential that we do things properly, cleverly and with a touch of class.
Any other club in the world could have signed arsene wenger as manager before we did.
Other clubs have not made clever decisions. Just looks at Spurs.
The playing field has never been level, simply because more fans have chosesn to support certian clubs rather than others, but in terms of the top tier or professional football, any club with a good business leader, cultered thinkers, PROPER knowledge of the game throughout their hiarachy cohld have done the same as us.
But you constantly see sides who think that signing Harry Redknapp or Mark Hughes is a good way to run a club. These people are just stupid. It has nothing to do with money at all!
What you say might be true (I don't think lamenting of there being no other way is why the owners spend this money personally) however talking about how it's the only way to compete sounds a bit misguided in somehow protecting them when clubs a la Man City and Chelsea do become the institution. Then what? Is it any easier for other clubs to compete with them than it was competing with the other clubs beforehand? I'd say not.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
What you say above - it's the only way, really means the death of good management and planning. It's probably also why those lower clubs you mention take on any owner, regardless of what they may eventually want or do with the club (see Cardiff and Hull) start chasing a dream and end up in a far worse state than they were before but it will be justified because they manage to attain some short term success (in this case promotion) and the fans are supposed to be grateful forevermore of those short few seasons of success.
Yes there's that and the fact the Champions League has become a cash cow for the big clubs to get richer and richer, they set the rules and thus increase the gap between themselves and the rest of the clubs, that's how it's been working.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
People still make this claim it's fair and a level playing field when it's a well known fact the top clubs basically mould competitions for their financial gain.
So why do you moan your tits off and call Wenger every name under the sun when we finish below them?Quote:
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Do they? Who claims that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Some of the people complaining about oil money.Quote:
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Nobody. That's who.