How much does Wenger earn?
The scrawny paedo child catcher blind frog munching did not zee it rapper fucking cunt deserves no more than 50 pounds for delivering fourth place trophy imo.
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How much does Wenger earn?
The scrawny paedo child catcher blind frog munching did not zee it rapper fucking cunt deserves no more than 50 pounds for delivering fourth place trophy imo.
Whilst I agree that Cech is better than what we have - I have to question why that is with a manager who's been in charge for so long. Would also like to hear views on the fact that according to a few Chelsea boys I know, the only issues for them in their starting line up is 2 out of the 3 places in attacking midfield behind Costa. They are not too sure on Oscar in the centre with Willian on the right, they haven't seen enough of Cuadado yet - they see these as areas to improve 1st 11.
Personally, for us, & without Cech yet - the only defender that I think is proven quality is Kos, jury still out on Coq because I do wonder if he looks good to us as a DM because of the shit we had before, happy with Santi, Ozil & Sanchez. If Rambo can get back to his 2013 form then he's in but that would only make 5 out of our starting 11 that I would think would be difficult for us to buy to improve on.
[QUOTE=Dein-machine;464244]What has his salary got to do with anything? Money in the game went disproportionality out the window years ago, so is £1m for managing a football team more acceptable? Half a mill? For managing a football team remember. I'm amazed to know what you think is the right amount. There are only a handful of jobs where there is a tangible idea of what that role is worth. And this isn't about who loves Wenger and who doesn't, it's about trying to make sense or your argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
Dein's argument is all over the place at the moment. Not sure how someone can argue for more investment in youth considering what we have seen during the Emirate/Cesc era. We've invested time and money developing Chesney and Flappy so I'm not sure why there is a problem with us going the other way considering the past failings of project youth. I'd be pissed with Wenger if he decided to spend £20m on another vanity youth project youth player that's far from ready for the first team.
We need to build a squad that is ready now. Santi, Kos, Merts and a few others are getting on a bit. We need to really go for the title now before we have to go through another period of transition.
[QUOTE=Kano;464247]There are only a handful of jobs where you can double your salary whilst delivery worse results. Depends on whether you think Wenger should be paid for his contribtution to Arsenal PLC or his success on the pitch. If its the former he's worth every penny but when you have fans paying the most money for season tickets in Europe, in a stadium built with the promise of ruling Europe & then can't even compete to win your own league - I think his salary then becomes important to certain people. On the football pitch he is being rewarded for failure to deliver his promise - its not the amount, couldn't give a shit whether Wenger gets it or Silent Stan but through woefull transfer dealings & consistent tactical blunders he seems free to earn money that should be awarded to people achieving their goal. The people paying for season tickets want to see what we were promised, the shareholders are happy to pay him because he is achieving their goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
My argument is quite consistent - Lloris & De Gea were bought for decent money because they had to be No 1's straight away. We have bought £2 mill goalkeepers for 15 years now - Ospina to be our No 1. And then we wonder why they not actually that good. For 15 years we have had a shit keeper & our only answer is to buy a the reserve keeper in his mid 30's. Doesn't matter if you still think Cech is good. I have agreed that he is better than what we have but that in itself is testament to another Wenger fuck up. My issue is, if we are to compete with Chelsea & the Chelsea staff think Courtois is now better than Cech, don't we need a Courtois. I mentioned Perrin at Genoa, just because his 22 & none of us have really seen him, does that mean Cech is better than him - how do we know this. If you take the Cech situation to every position on the pitch & we have good experinced players but not quite as good as those at Chelsea - will we catch them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
What he earns is relevant because in all of world football I guess only Mourinho earns more as a manager. His salary has gone up while our fortunes on the pitch have flatlined.
However, we should not digress. This topic is about transfers and I believe Cech is the best we could have got, better than what we have and who cares if he was 2nd fiddle at Chelsea. They dont want him to go and he wants to come to us. I just wish we could close this deal and move on to the next target. Wenger will not be earning his pay if he tries to make Cech out to be this seasons Sanchez.
You'd trust Wenger to spend £20m on a goalkeeper that's still developing?
P[QUOTE=Dein-machine;464249]His salary is arbitrary, it matters not one little bit. It doesn't affect anything to do with his job, or whether or not you or I visit the stadium to pay into the rip-off scheme. The money being taken off the fans paying for other resources are where the real concern should be. But sadly the rules are already set in stone by the . We want nice stadiums and pitches with 'star' players? Then we get this, a souped up, overrated league packed with overpaid pretenders. And that applies to every single football employee in the league. There isn't a single squad member, manager or director that can justify their wage. What matters is the pressure - or lack of it - onto him by the club. That would be the same if he earned double or less than he currently does. If we're going to equate his salary to performance then where do we start with the current status of wages in the game? Do that and we're into a whole other argument. His salary changes nothing in the current scheme of things. It's nothing more than just a factual statement. Fair assessment of salary no longer exists in these neoliberal times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Personally don't trust Wenger with anything to do with transfers. Utd paid £19 mill for De Gea who was young & improving. Chelsea would have spent £20+ to get Courtois (if they didn't already own him) again young & improving. If Perrin is valued at £20 mill then it would suggest he's already much better than a Fabianski or an Ospina. Why does every buy have to turn into a bad one. Spuds £8 mill on Lloris looks like great business for a keeper who hit the ground running. £8 for Lloris with his whole career ahead of him or if sold a healthy profit to buy quality again. We are paying more than that for a 33 year old who can only go downhill, hasn't played much in a year & with no re-sale value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory