453-6, Patel goes for 33. Sehwag did well to catch that.
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453-6, Patel goes for 33. Sehwag did well to catch that.
Dhoni knocks one for four. :bow:
England close on 509-6
Morning session, then declare?
Not bad.......how long has it been since we won a series in India?
Cook :bow:
I hate sport.
Prior and Swann can just go out in the morning and bludgeon it. :bow:
for the next few years at least, cook and kp im sure will trade places at the top of the centuary list. who do you think is better?
for me, its cook without a shadow of a doubt, kp is a fantastic batsman, and in odi's and t20 is miles ahead of cook but in tests, cook has to face the new ball everytime and yet still scores runs, its slightly easier in times like today coming in against a side that bowled for over a day and with an old ball, but the thing that swings it for me, is cook is the ultimate team player, personal milestones mean nothing, its always always about the team, whereas kp has been guilty of trying to get headlines and getting out, trying to get that centuary with a six and skying it etc. i think in tests, cook is the better batsman, and the greatest english batsman
Cook's great. Cook, Amla and Clarke are the top 3 in the world. If he carries on at this rate he will of course break all kinds of records but longevity is, in itself, a rare quality.
Between Cook and KP, different styles. Cook is all about the textbook whereas Pietersen relies on his natural ability to make it up as he goes along. I find Pietersen far more entertaining and stylish as a shotmaker but Cook is an overall better batsman for sure.
Captains armband also adds to responsibility/stress so Cookie
Cook is more consistent and will end up with the better records. Pietersen plays innings that few others are capable of.
You have to be fair, Cook has cashed in quite a lot against average bowling. Whereas we've seen Pietersen hit the likes of McGrath and Warne. But he doesn't have the consistency to do that every innings and his series' have largely been one or two brilliant knocks in the middle of several low scores.
KP by some distance. More entertaining and done it in all 3 forms of the game. Cook only in the easiest form but I do agree Cook is the best English batsman.
Slighy tremor felt on the WUM meter. . .
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Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner
cook has too, he has a centuary in Australia against them, and of course you cant forget his scores in the last ashes albeit against a much worse attack. im pretty sure he has a centuary agaisnt every opposition he has played, and both home and away. im certain he has one in south africa, he got one this year too, he has done it in india, both on his debut and now. i think sri lanka and new zealand are the only two places i can think of where he hasnt scored a ton in.
It's not so much a slight on Cook as a recognition of Pietersen's ability to occasionally play phenomenal innings that few others can, sometimes against the better bowlers. Colombo and his hundred against South Africa would be this year's examples. He just sandwiches those between loads of rubbish scores. In that respect he has a higher ceiling than Cook, but Cook has scored big most of the time. They were both utter lemons against Ajmal and friends so that's not worth pursuing. I don't recall Cook doing very well against Steyn, Philander and Morkel this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Generally I think it's too simplistic to narrow it down to scoring against/in this country or that country. A century in India is barely an achievement these days and the last Ashes was simply the beatdown of some absolute jokers. Quality of bowler has to be the first barometer.
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Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner
cook got a ton against south africa this year too :good:
pietersen can play innings that no one else can, he is a joy to watch when he is in that kind of form, he can take apart a bowling attack in a blink of an eye and be destructive that way. i love watching KP as much as i love watching cook, both are two different styles that i love watching.
i think with cook is you expect him to do well, and he can take apart a bowling attack by just being stubborn, concentration 100% and just taking each ball at a time making the bowlers work harder, tire them and punish all bad balls while not offering them any hope. that his style of destruction compared to kps. since the ashes in 2010. cook has taken to scoring big hundreds rather then before where he would between 100-130, now when he gets a hundred most of the time he will get past 150.
one difference i find, is when both are out of form, cook can still get a score, it might not be a ton but can get above 50, kp cant when he is out form. against ajmal this year, cook did get at least one 50, i dont think kp did. i might be wrong.
1) Yeah that's the point I was making about Pietersen. The ability to do that - not only score, but the manner of scoring - against the better bowlers is a significant marker for overall ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
2) I agree there. Pietersen is comedy gold when out of form.
Could have got 50-1 for England to win the series after the first test. How annoying.
England were all out for 523.
India got to 86-0. 166-8 now. :haha: Anderson with two wickets, Swann with two and Finn with three.
Pujara was run out. Sehwag top scorer with 49.
197-9, Monty gets Sharma!
Ashwin moves to 53.
England will have to bat again with that. :lol:
India's best batsman stuck at 8 :lol:
India close on 239-9, Ashwin has been brilliant.
England will probably win before I wake up tomorrow.
Don't normally post here, but I'm going to see Australia v South Africa on the 27th. :woohoo:
It's against Sri Lanka I think. :ninja:
Anyway, MCG. :bow:
Boxing Day test matches are great because I'm still hammered by then so I can stay up then.
Enjoy GB. There's something very appealing about watching games in Australia. Always good until the commentators become unbearably annoying but you won't have that problem. Would like to go to and see some games on a tour abroad at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
:cheers:
England won! :bow: They lead 1-2 in the series now.
Made a meal of the 41 chase though. Cook went for 1, Trott went for 3. KP went for a duck. :haha:
Bell got England over the line.
Always rated him tbf.
Fourth test:
England are 130-4. KP is 65*, Root is with him.
Trott went for 44. Cook went for 1, Compton went for 3. Bell of course went for 1.
142-5 currently, KP went for 73. :rose:
A recovery of sorts. 199-5 at the close.
Got a ticket to the last day of the Ashes next year :dance:
That's going to be quite a day.
England made 330 in the end, Root got 73. Swann got 56. :bow:
India are 62-2, Sehwag was clean bowled by Anderson, for a duck. :lol:
64-3, Anderson bowls Tendulkar! Low ball, took the inside edge. :lol:
India close on 87-4, Anderson got Gambhir too. :bow:
DIdnt even know there was a 4th Test :lol:
KP had a shocker
70 odd runs off 180 balls
He has truly been Testified
In other news, SL v Aussies in Tests going on as well
Read about Trotts dismissal :haha:
Why is he not critisised for that?
If Kohli scores a hundred tomorrow, Maccy has agreed to let me be mod for a day.
Cripps :rose:
I think that's more likely than Gervinho scoring a double hat-trick on Monday tbf.
You'll change my name?
India are 242-4, Kohli on 84, Dhoni on 83.