Hart heading off to Torino? :lol:
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Hart heading off to Torino? :lol:
Wheelchair could be sent out on loan. :lol:
Unfortunately I don't see where he fits in really.
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Leicester in talks to spank £50m on Islam Slimani and Adrien Silva from Sporting Lisbon. :wacko:
Those Championship budget buys are certainly a thing of the past.
Wheelchair :(
Proper lad but hopefully he can have a whole season under his belt. Won't get games here
About time we got rid of the crock. Best decision Wenger has taken in a decade! :bow:
Who pays his medical bills if he's on loan? Surely nobody is going to take on such a huge investment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Right. But too bad he didn't flog him 2 years ago while folk still thought he was good. Needs to cut these write-offs off asap.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Wheelchair hasn't helped himself but I think the staff have a lot to answer for when looking at his injury records. It's the same with Ramsey. Two young players with bad injury records because they always get rushed back to play. Ramsey was rushed back after the Euros for no reason and now he's out for a month.
A loan move away may be good for Wilshere.
Totally agree, overrated, injury prone rubbish, hopefully the beginning of the end of his time here, doesn't have the dedication to make it, to be sent out on loan at 24 after being a 1st teamer isn't a good sign, but then neither is picking up the ball and always running into a group of players or tackling badly and giving away free kicks in terrible areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Ta-rah :wave:
Read recently that Serge Gnabry are going to Bayern Munich. Bayern give him on loan than to Werder Bremen. I dont understand why Arsenal sold him. What is your opinion about him?
Yep, he's linked to some decent Italian sides too, Juve being the pick of the bunch, then Roma and Torino, apparently West Ham are the team most interested in him in PL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I think it would be good for him to go out on loan to get some regular minutes and build up his fitness. I'm not fussed where he goes TBH, Juve could be a great move for him assuming he gets games, I think he would improve the tactical side of his game out there and he would hopefully feature in CL too.
West Ham wouldn't be a bad move either.
As it stands he's no use to us, he could be if he keeps himself fit and builds up his confidence, I see him as the natural successor to Santi.
I think it's strange Gnabry hasn't been considered for the first team squad really. He looked really good a couple of seasons ago but it seems like now Wenger doesn't fancy him. I guess we have a lot of options in his position and he's not on big wages like Walcott, so he's easier to move on.
It would be disappointing though to see yet another promising young player shipped off after an encouraging start.
Remains to be seen how much is in that story given Wenger was very vocal about wanting to keep him last week. He is just potential at the moment, we've seen plenty of those over the years. He could turn out to be a player or another dope. No way of knowing until he gets some good minutes on the pitch. Look promising in patches before his injury and West Brom loan. Olympics he was great but level of football is lower. Has his work cut out getting into our side as it is. But if he hangs around for a few more months and the annual injury plague kicks in, he could strike gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreas_AFC
Can't believe I actually agree with you for once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Jack can piss off afaic. Gone backwards in his development and not helped by consistently getting himself into trouble and onto the front pages of the rags (fights outside nightclubs, smoking x2 etc etc).
Had a few bad years with the injuries and the bad loan spell which has hampered his development but there's a potential world beater in there if he gets his head down. It's been ages but I do remember that he had a few bad habits as taking too much time with the ball and trying too much at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreas_AFC
I don't for one minute believe the rumours coming from Germany about Bayern about to buy him. Wenger has already said that he wants to keep him and extend his contract ..... in fact the departure of Joel Campbell was probably to make room for him. He also counts as a homegrown player and after losing Chambers and probably Jack, we need him. 50 million or Bayern can fuck a duck tbh.
I think the story is true, and Wenger saying how much he wants to keep him suggests that selling him to Bayern Munich is a result of Gnabry forcing the move with a year left on his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
That is true of course, Gnabry could easily of pushed for the move. Bayern is attractive but if he's going to get loaned straight out yet again, he is still playing in limbo, as he would with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
But if he performs with Bremen he has the chance of becoming a first team player for a club which is bigger and more illustrious than us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Aye, that's how I see it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I think it would be good for him to go to Juve as well. May grow up a bit more but I doubt he'll go overseas. If he cuts out the over dribbling crap, he'd be a good player. I think messing around with his position as either a 10, CM and wide player hasn't helped his progress either.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I'm not entirely convinced this is to do with him getting first team football, let's face it Wilshere is a thug....he's the kind of person we'd avoid like the plague if he wasn't a footballer. We know Wenger will take the tough line if he thinks a player has disrespected him, and we know Wilshere has a history of poor behaviour off the pitch....would any of us be surprised if the little toerag kicked off at the training ground and is being punished for it.
:lol: You don't know the guy! Thug? Cut the character assassination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I'll give Wenger some credit though, signing Elneny and Xhaka, loaning out Jack and purposely crocking Ramsey :lol: may mean he has finally taken out the weaker players that leave us looking disjointed in the midfield. The Ramsey and Wilshere combo was a disaster and neither player had a clue on how to work together. Both played as individuals and just did their own thing..
so he didn't spit at a taxi driver or get involved in pub brawls?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Plus I know people who know him from his younger days, the kind of person who likes starting fights with people.....has a party trick of smashing glass bottles over his head and threatening to glass other people.
And basically not to put too fine a point on it, a gak head.
The Wilshere family are well known in Stevenage for being a family of scum bags, like I say being a footballer with a lot of money doesn't stop him from being a turd.
He might be a dickhead as a person, I'm completely indifferent toward him, but banging on about something a guy did years ago and has never faced charges for is a bit rich. Young men make mistakes, shit happens. It shouldn't define them for life. And a pub brawl? Is that Daily Mail terminology or a real, hands down, full on fight with the place getting smashed up? My betting is on the former.
I don't know the guy. Neither do you. What's reported in could be sensationlised. Heck, some people deserve a glass in the face. :lol: But either way, don't start making stuff up about why he's being loaned out. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
HCZ often gets apoplectic with people he doesnt know. That DT chap on AFTV: He would use a Browning machine gun on him if he ever made the mistake of showing up uninvited to chez HCZ.
If you're working class and have tattoos, stay out HCZ's way. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Again can't help but feel you are only defending him because he's an Arsenal footballer. Anyway i'm not making anything up, i'm merely speculating I'm not saying that it's the case...i'm just saying that to decide that he is going to loan him now seems a bit curious, it's not like we have had any midfield additions since May.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
The people that I know aren't given to lying, and they are pretty uniform in their assessment of him as a thoroughly nasty piece of work from a scumbag family...and i don't see any evidence of him being a reformed character....I'm supposed to think he's a nice well balanced family man because he got some silly slip of a girl pregnant twice?.
That's a banning :sulk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Why are you making it a class thing?.....not all working class people turn out to be uncultured tattoed chavvy scum like DT or Wilshere :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Anyway I can't say too much, give me some jogging bottoms and an earring and i'd be no better....although my hair is short as a result of charity fund raising.
Walcott's wages are like a hangman's noose around our necks.......need to ship him rather than Gnabs........would like to see him given a decent chance, although the arrival of Perez is going to have an effect on things, either he starts up front (which I can't see straight away) and Sanchez comes out wide (bye bye Theo) or he goes out wide and Sanchez stays where he is for time being (again bye bye Theo) - all of this bye bye Theo means Gnabs is left with not much to do - it is all really sad because Theo in my opinion deceives too much (he has good games and don't get me wrong I love it when he scores because I start thinking, come on Theo.....I knew you could do it it) but......those days are not as frequent as we would all like.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
What kind of person do you think i am?.....the idea of bestowing violence upon another person is exactly the kind of thing i'm against......i'd have other people do it for me. :whistle:Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
The problem is people want Gnabry, they don't want Walcott.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
Aye, I think if he does go out on loan then West Ham it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I like Jack as a player, there is a lot to work with and he has already shown signs of huge potential. We should stick with him if he can stay fit and perform for a season elsewhere.
I totally agree with you regarding his position, Wenger has moved him about all over the place, it does him absolutely no favours at all.
Feo shouldn't really make it into our strongest eleven but he has a place in the squad I think. What he earns I don't really care about - all the wages are ridiculous and the club can easily afford it. He will contribute with some goals and assists (one of each so far this season which is promising) but while Ox and Gnabry still have something left to prove, Alexis will go onto the left while Iwobi is out injured, then Feo it is for now. We could do with an upgrade out there but its not likely to happen by the looks of it. Despite winding almost everyone up, Feo can do 'a job' for the time being.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
I'm disappointed about Jack being loaned out, but only because he's an English academy product. As a player we wont miss him. I've lost faith in our youth development. Almost everyone we get our hands on gets stuck with the same problems. Injury prone, cant defend, no common sense, bad decision making, no/inconsistent end product. It's harder to think of someone who has come from our academy that DOESN'T have those traits :lol:
As for Gnabry I'm not too bothered in all honesty. I just don't see where the hype comes from. He's a good player but he doesn't stand out the way a real talent does.
Only people who have made 20000 substitutions in life can make that call of who to keep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I don't particularly rate Theo either but what he does give us is goals and runs behind the defence. Neither Gnabry, Ox or Iwobi will give us those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over