Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

That just sums up the whole back and forth between you and Zim. Not just this debate. The whole saga. :lol: You often take a position and only after the sorry mess unravels you start to realise what’s happened. It’s taken you a while to conclude Wenger is the problem despite Zim telling you this years ago. But you still talk as if he’s always wrong. I mean the statement about this summer sums it up. Also, I don’t think Kolas is being judged as a write off, just that he has to prove himself here because nobody has seen him play.

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Great post, I simply said I would have personally signed a known quantity rather than an unknown because he's free, we're opportunists who sign players just because they are cheap as opposed to because they are right for us and it's not the way to succeed. Now this guy may turn out to be decent, but noone really knows and just because he's been in the team of the season once it doesn't necessarily make him top class, plenty of players have been in teams of the season only to disappear and never reproduce that kind of form.

It's basically another experiment by Wenger and he loves those, especially if they come cheap, we could cite countless examples.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Precisely this will move PSG to a new level, alongside the elite clubs, they clearly want to win the CL and be the best and they are moving closer to that all the time.

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No they're not.

This will move them forward in terms of corporate sponsorship and shirt sales, but if anything they took a step back last season and are playing catch up.

Look at the money PSG, Chelsea and City have had pumped into them. That only one has won a flukey European cup has shown that it's very much a closed shop at the moment.

Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern are the dominant European sides in terms of history and infrastructure

I don't see PSG breaking into that elite as a result of an obscene transfer for one player.

The only way I can see that they will is the improvement of the teams they play week in, week out

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

No they're not.

This will move them forward in terms of corporate sponsorship, but if anything they took a step back last season and are playing catch up.

Look at the money PSG, Chelsea and City have had pumped into them. That only one has won a flukey European cup has shown that it's very much a closed shop at the moment.

Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern are the dominant European sides in terms of history and infrastructure

I don't see PSG breaking into that elite as a result of an obscene transfer for one player.

The only way I can see that they will is the improvement of the teams they play week in, week out

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Getting better players also helps a lot, they came close to toppling Barca last season and IMO they're not that far away now, obviously Barca, Real, Bayern are still above but they're getting closer.

Neymar isn't just any player, he's one of Barca's best and that's very different to anything Chelsea, Man City and PSG have done before, he's a hugely marketable asset and will certainly help increase their fanbase.

Playing top teams every week obviously helps but it's not the be all and end all, Bayern play rubbish team week in week out and it hasn't affected them.

I can understand why Neymar might want to move (other than the money) at Barca he is and always will be in Messi' shadow (which worked well and took the pressure off him somewhat when he first moved for big money) until he leaves, the club is all about Messi, playing for another club he can become their star and could win world player of the year which is unlikely at Barca where the team is setup for Messi.

This move will also help them attract better players in the future as well.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

No they're not.

This will move them forward in terms of corporate sponsorship, but if anything they took a step back last season and are playing catch up.

Look at the money PSG, Chelsea and City have had pumped into them. That only one has won a flukey European cup has shown that it's very much a closed shop at the moment.

Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern are the dominant European sides in terms of history and infrastructure

I don't see PSG breaking into that elite as a result of an obscene transfer for one player.

The only way I can see that they will is the improvement of the teams they play week in, week out

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You say that but you've added Bayern into the equation. There isn't team that comes to their power in the Bundesliga.

I also totally forgot that the current Ligue 1 champions, Monaco, are owned by a Russian billionaire.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Getting better players also helps a lot, they came close to toppling Barca last season and IMO they're not that far away now, obviously Barca, Real, Bayern are still above but they're getting closer.

Neymar isn't just any player, he's one of Barca's best and that's very different to anything Chelsea, Man City and PSG have done before, he's a hugely marketable asset and will certainly help increase their fanbase.

Playing top teams every week obviously helps but it's not the be all and end all, Bayern play rubbish team week in week out and it hasn't affected them.

I can understand why Neymar might want to move (other than the money) at Barca he is and always will be in Messi' shadow (which worked well and took the pressure off him somewhat when he first moved for big money) until he leaves, the club is all about Messi, playing for another club he can become their star and could win world player of the year which is unlikely at Barca where the team is setup for Messi.

This move will also help them attract better players in the future as well.

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Exactly.

It makes sense for Neymar to want to step out of Messi’s shadow. I wish more would make this sort of move. Earn your own stripes and help build a legacy with another team. If he can push PSG to compete in the CL, it makes football a little less predictable.

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

Exactly.

It makes sense for Neymar to want to step out of Messi’s shadow. I wish more would make this sort of move. Earn your own stripes and help build a legacy with another team. If he can push PSG to compete in the CL, it makes football a little less predictable.

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Now that psg have about 5 of their players for sale we should move in

He's reportedly going to earn 650k a week tax free. :wacko:

Sanchez and Ozil are jerking off to those numbers as we speak.

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

Exactly.

It makes sense for Neymar to want to step out of Messi’s shadow. I wish more would make this sort of move. Earn your own stripes and help build a legacy with another team. If he can push PSG to compete in the CL, it makes football a little less predictable.

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

Sanchez and Ozil are jerking off to those numbers as we speak.

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Not as much as Jenkinson and Gibbs were when we have them their extensions

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

Sanchez and Ozil are jerking off to those numbers as we speak.

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:haha: :haha: