He's stinking rich and hasn't he said he thinks we should spend and that he'd be willing to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
When you're that rich a few hundred million here and there is pocket change, just ask Abrahmovic!
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He's stinking rich and hasn't he said he thinks we should spend and that he'd be willing to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
When you're that rich a few hundred million here and there is pocket change, just ask Abrahmovic!
I'm with you, we do have money but the current lot just want to line their pockets, won't have a bad word said about the manager and praise him constantly for what is in effect failure for a club of our size.Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Who the f*ck wants to hear how well Wenger is doing when he's gone 7 seasons without so much as a tin pot trophy to his name, smaller clubs have picked up trophies in that time!
We don't need anyone stinking rich - we just need someone to make full use of the resources the Club itself generates. Had we done that, we would have won a minimum of two titles over the past seven years.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Calling for some rich twat to measure his dick against a couple of other rich twats is totally wrong. I want to follow Arsenal and not some rich oligarch twat's penis extension. We can win and should win without that.
My post above clear this up I think but in addition why can't someone rich also be a fan and thus want to invest and win, I don't think you'll find a Blackburn, Chelsea or Man City fan who isn't happy to have seen rich benefactors come in at the end of the day, as long as they don't damage the club I don't really see a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Abrahmovic came in and despite many people's doubts stuck around, where would Chelsea actually be without him?
Pretty much, But this is the problem that pride of winning things without the help of the Billionaire, seems to be dissapering quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Seems Some fans (from every team) will do and anything even sell their soles in exchange for tophies.
We should not want the russian because he will chuck money at the team we should want him because he wants whats best for the team not himself.
And where would Chelsea have been if he wasn't such an interfering berk? Short term it is great for the fans I am sure but it can't last, it certainly didn't last for Blackburn! Abramovich's spending has been muchly reduced since those first few years, there have been the few exceptions of course but it's only a big fee on one or two players over a few windows, not multiple fees of £20 million+ all in one and in lieu of that and his incessant managerial changes, their position in the league has become less and less secure.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
TBH i can't tell you what he said, because i have not really follwed him, hence why i asked the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
He may love the club and he may what to win things. But all these things he says seems like things he thinks fans want to here.
it reminds me of the The President Elections of the clubs in spain they will say anything till they get that club and once they do don't always follow through.
All i see is the guy saying things to get fans onside. What makes people think he is Honest to follow through and once he gets the club do something else.
Just because he is rich don't mean he may want to just waste all that money.
Like i said i don't know nothing about the man so i can't make that call.
i can't remember where but i do recall that usmanov was labelled a man utd fan. i can't see him investing as a fan, more looking in the long term for a return.
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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Well this
Though NQ probably meant this in his usual NQish way (and yeah I know you'd be the first to call 999 if a hair got misplaced on Le Profs regal crown),he hit the nail on the head i.e. it's the manner by which he got rich that suggests to me AW, his philosophy, the bath water and probably the baby would all be thrown out for something new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I don't really have time to explain this properly, so I'll just list out incoherently assumptions in the theory I'm working with:
1. The majority of our board are Idiots- infact they are worse, they are "Public School We Never Lacked Idiots."
2. These sort of people have never been good at making money- it's not in their DNA. I'm taking a wild guess but I suspect in that richlist the SELFMADE Public School Millionaires could probably be counted with one hand.
3. These Idiots looked at Dein and now Wenger as modern day Alchemist, nay, Jesus like magicians i.e they were able to turn tapwater into Dom Perignon. If they had paid more attention in school they would have realised economic theory supported what we would become.
4. Thus these Idiots actually think they have stumbled on the" secret" (lol) winning formulae, maximised returns to capital ratio and it won't or can't get better than this.
Well it can and surely should have, if only the fools had actually had to work there way to the top they probably would know this.
So now what actually underpins my theory is this:
1. Arsenal is still a F**king undervalued entity and has been for ages- we are worth more than what they say we are and have always been( go ask Dein if you don't believe me)
2. If after 7 years of consistent FAILURE, we still are/have been, comfortably, the 3rd most valuable club in the world- where would we have been if it had been 7 years of trophy laden success??
3. We have (last time I checked anyway)
- the most profitable stadium in the club footballing world
-the richest fans (per capita income) among the top 20 most valuable clubs in the world
- and the highest average ticket prices in the whole world
.....so really if Arsenal fans are consistently willing to pay so much for FAILURE, is it inconcievable to think one could milk them far more if you gave them success???
Simply put the board right now think they are fleecing us, and they are to a pathetic extent, but in real terms they are not.
We can and probably will be fleeced more by a businessman who knows his onions.
In short, a 100 years of economic theory demands that the most valuable club in the world cannot be from Manchester in the longterm, unless Manchester as a city metamorphs into something else, it eventually has to change and will;if you still don't undertstand try and remember the last Manc you saw, I bet he wasn't a Manc.
Anyway I'm off to bed, and yeah I've had a few.
I think two more if you consider Kroenke hasn't really got his feet under the table yet.Quote:
Simply put the board right now think they are fleecing us, and they are to a pathetic extent, but in real terms they are not.
We can and probably will be fleeced more by a businessman who knows his onions.