Can we win the Premier League again under Wenger ?

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Originally Posted by Letters

Do you have yours?

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How many times will you outline the stadium repayments, the billionaire clubs and being close to victory. We've got £200m in the bank and if a top class striker is all it takes for us to win the league, why take this sort of risk.

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"We get a list of the players that Wenger wants," Harris noted. "On the list is a centre-forward, but I'm not going to tell you who he is. You've got to get the other team to want to sell him, but I think he wants to come. It basically comes down to whether the other team can find a superstar to replace him, because they don't have to sell."

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This is a case where we may have to pay over the odds to get our man but if he believe this player can win us the league, is it not worth it?

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

How many times will you outline the stadium repayments, the billionaire clubs and being close to victory

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Every time some tit says something about how Wenger hates spending money or how he isn't interested in success or he's incompetent or all the other things which are repeated ad nauseum.
If I keep saying the same things it's because other people do too.

But yes, we have the money and I agree we should be going all out for a top striker which could push us on for a really serious title challenge. But they don't grow on trees, there aren't that many players at the level who would really push us on.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

For the sake of argument what striker would you buy, the problem for me is that there isn't anything that is a vast improvement on what we have. It's not that I rate Giroud, I just really don't rate Benzema or Cavani and Aubemeyang probably would play on the behind the striker and we already have people that can do that (Sanchez for example).

Lacazette? Impressive goal scoring stats last season but we bought Giroud on the basis of one good season so I'm naturally skeptical.

Don't get me wrong we should definitely be going in hard to buy a striker, just off the top of my head I don't know who that top quality striker is because the three best ones in world football are all owned by one club.

Muller? Look at his goal scoring stats and not so impressive

Reus? Not really a striker, but I don't know maybe could play in that position...might be asking a lot of a player his age

In Giroud we have a wiltord, the task is to find our Thierry Henry

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I hear your what you’re saying regarding the quality available or the type of players we deem to be suitable or not suitable for the squad. But our assessment and judgment is irrelevant at the end of the day. If Wenger has a list of players he wants and there is someone at the top of that list, I’m assuming he knows they’ll improve our squad and that he has a plan for that player. At first I thought we had a problem identifying suitable players but that doesn’t seem like the case. This is the difference between Wenger and his peers. Fergie went all out to sign RVP from us and was willing to pay a high fee on an injury prone player. Why? Because he knew that;s what his team needed to challenge for the title. Jose made sure he got Costa and Cesc because it was clear he was missing a playmaker and striker last season. Why aren’t we doing the same? It’s just so risky and this sort of thing has back fired on us before. We should have a squad together training during pre season and ready for kick off.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33648776

We've got the money but it's not *quite* as simple as that, the player has to want to come to us.
That said, despite what people may think of him on here, Wenger is still well respected in the game, Ozil said he was swayed by Wenger calling him.
I'll be disappointed if we don't do something this summer, I do think we've got a squad that can compete but just one more special player could give everyone a lift and push us on.
Wenger does have a maddening history of resting on us laurels when he think the squad is good enough, I get that stability is a good thing, but having someone of Sanchez' quality to play with is a good thing too.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I hear your what you’re saying regarding the quality available or the type of players we deem to be suitable or not suitable for the squad. But our assessment and judgment is irrelevant at the end of the day. If Wenger has a list of players he wants and there is someone at the top of that list, I’m assuming he knows they’ll improve our squad and that he has a plan for that player. At first I thought we had a problem identifying suitable players but that doesn’t seem like the case. This is the difference between Wenger and his peers. Fergie went all out to sign RVP from us and was willing to pay a high fee on an injury prone player. Why? Because he knew that;s what his team needed to challenge for the title. Jose made sure he got Costa and Cesc because it was clear he was missing a playmaker and striker last season. Why aren’t we doing the same? It’s just so risky and this sort of thing has back fired on us before. We should have a squad together training during pre season and ready for kick off.

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Don't disagree with any of that but just stating that there isn't an obvious candidate out there for me, however read the link from BBC Sport...looks like we are after someone.

That's what I read this morning but on Bleacher Report.

Zim said this yesterday.

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As someone once said, you make transfers happen you don't sit there and wait for someone to fall on your lap.

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Blink said it best.

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I don't completely buy the 'if somebody becomes available line'. I think you have to make players available by showing the colour of your money at times. Then suddenly unavailable becomes available.

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Originally Posted by Letters

I did. But you were probably (correct me if I'm wrong) one of the people saying we'd never win any trophies under Wenger again.
After the Birmingham debacle I thought the same.
Wenger's already shown he can win the title, he's done it 3 times. The only difference now is you've got 2 billionaire-cheat sides making it far more difficult.
Right now though we've got a squad which is very close to being able to win it, one or two signings and we'd have a great chance.

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I always tried to refrain from saying that we would never win ANY trophy under Wenger. Weird cup runs in CC and FA Cup are always possible. Birmingham and Pompey are good examples, so if I did say we will not win ANY trophy under Wenger, I might have spoken right after a frustrating match.

I just cannot see Wenger lasting the season with the likes of Mourinho and the rise of sides who are not scared of the big boys anymore. But you know this... you know what will happen come end of the season.. we will either go on a great run at the beginning or the end of the season and you will come out with some stats of 12 wins out of 14, no away losses to the big 4 etc. Its rinse and repeat with this manager and I have NOT seen one thing different that will make me think otherwise.

I've explained over and over what is different, the new level of signings, the wins in big away games - particularly the 2 in Manchester last year and, most importantly, that's resulted in 2 trophies in 2 years. And neither of the Cup runs was weird, in both seasons we played big teams - believe we played 3 of the top 6 (all at home, but still) in 2014 and we had Utd away this year. We earned those trophies.

We've not the biggest prizes yet, but to suggest nothing has changed is rather perverse.

I agree that with Mourinho around we face a tough job, with two billionaire cheats we do anyway. I don't think many managers could finish above both. Fergie did it, no-one else has since they got going.

Fergie spent money. Man Utd aren't skint. Is there a need to elevate him that much just to enhance your argument?