Barca v Arsenal - Match Reaction

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

You say all this and mention Lampard but not too long ago said it's not Ozil's responsibility to score goals. He's the one player I can single out and say doesn't shoot enough or even attempt to get a shot on goal. Was just looking over his shot attempts over this month and it's like one shot a game if that. Also, I can't blame Wenger or the training on it because Wenger openly said he needs to score more goals.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1862/pre...ore-more-goals



But he replies with this.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foot...-a3160496.html
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It flies in the face of what the boss is telling him we need and what a player of his calibre should be producing hence the comparison to other top attacking midfielders. Certain attacking midfielders you wouldn't want to give too much space to on the edge of the box. Ozil doesn't seem like much of threat there. Mark the runners and players in front him tightly and I don't see him punishing the opposition for giving him shooting space.

Plenty of other guilty parties for the lack of goals but I'm pointing out Ozil today. Unlike Giroud who can't create space for himself to shoot or guys like Welbeck, Campbell, Walcott and Sanchez who just seem to lack the composure, technique or finesse on certain occasions, Ozil is the one player that has Hleb/Chamakh syndrome when in on goal.

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You are a bit like Letters in that you are fixed with winning the argument instead of making the case. Is Ozil a natural goalscorer, does he score goals for club and country?. Everywhere he has been before Arsenal, it was not his job to score goals . Now suddenly at Arsenal it is his job to carry this team, make the goals...and score them. Yesterdays game and our season was certainly not ruined bacuse of Ozil. He will be the first on the German team sheet and not to score goals. Coaches who know what they are doing dont want him scoring the goals. No matter what Wenger says. Any goal from him should be considered a bonus not a baseline. WTF are Giroud, Walnutt and Welbeck in the team for then?

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LVIV, Ukraine, June 8 (Reuters) - Talented midfielder Mesut Ozil should be scoring more goals for Germany, coach Joachim Loew said on the eve of their Euro 2012 opener against Portugal on Saturday.

Ozil, who has scored eight goals in 33 internationals, is one of Germany's most creative players and has had a successful season with Real Madrid.

Loew, who said Ozil's technical skills had improved since he joined Real in 2010 and he was now a more mature and confident player, made it clear that the 23-year-old could be even better.

"There always things you can work on, improve as a player. I think he has played many games this season on a very consistent level ... I think he has the ability to become even more of a goal threat with his wonderful shot and skills.

"Overall, I think there is room for improvement in his goalscoring abilities," Loew told a news conference.

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http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article...20608?irpc=932

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

You are a bit like Letters in that you are fixed with winning the argument instead of making the case. Is Ozil a natural goalscorer, does he score goals for club and country?. Everywhere he has been before Arsenal, it was not his job to score goals . Now suddenly at Arsenal it is his job to carry this team, make the goals...and score them. Yesterdays game and our season was certainly not ruined bacuse of Ozil. He will be the first on the German team sheet and not to score goals. Coaches who know what they are doing dont want him scoring the goals. No matter what Wenger says. Any goal from him should be considered a bonus not a baseline. WTF are Giroud, Walnutt and Welbeck in the team for then?

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:doh: You criticise the training and say we don't shoot enough, bring up Lampard as an example below but absolve Ozil of the blame even though he's a part of the problem.

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How can you score goals when you never shoot from anywhere outside 2 ft from goal. Do people not look closely at our football. It is not at all conducive to scoring goals only to maintaining possession. when you have your main striker. Giroud constantly laying off the ball 4m from goal and players not having the intelligence to make runs through defernce without being caught offside. How will you ever score goals?. We made tons off fun of Lampard. How did he score all those goals?. Wenger thinks he has invented a new way to play footie. Sorry, its a shambles. New players will not solve that problem, not by a long shot

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Isn't it part of an attacking midfielders job to score goals as well? It doesn't have to be a ton but Silva, Yaya Toure, Zidane, Ballack.....past present, they'd all come up with match winning goals when their teams were struggling.

Ozil said himself earlier in the season he needed to be more selfish and score goals in the summer. It's not all on him but he has to take responsibility for the lack of goals too. It's not just the strikers job to score them. Heck, maybe we have bought the wrong player which is why I won't lose sleep if he leaves.

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Originally Posted by Kano

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article...20608?irpc=932

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So that's the German International coach as well as Wenger.

Seriously? One player is being asked to hone his contribution in the middle of a sea of shite? There is so much more to be fixed as a priority. For one thing, how about our strikers scoring goals? Let's start there surely? This is a Wengerish argument. Missing a million other things so one aspect of one detail can be analysed to death as if it will make the slightest bit of difference.

Its a typical Wengerite argument. We would much rather criticise and get rid of our World class players than our world class manager

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Seriously? One player is being asked to hone his contribution in the middle of a sea of shite? There is so much more to be fixed as a priority. For one thing, how about our strikers scoring goals? Let's start there surely? This is a Wengerish argument. Missing a million other things so one aspect of one detail can be analysed to death as if it will make the slightest bit of difference.

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Every player is being asked to hone their skill. It's not enough that Ozil just passes the ball and it's a bit nuts for people to criticise Wenger for having this tippy tappy pass pass style but want to excuse Ozil who can obviously contribute more when it comes to shots on goal. Plus it's documented in the press that Wenger has said he needs to score more goals. We know the strikers are struggling but are you saying Ozil can't do anything more to help? That he's that robotic and rigid that he can't adjust his game?

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Its a typical Wengerite argument. We would much rather criticise and get rid of our World class players than our world class manager

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Oh you are retard if you think I'm for Wenger staying. A Wengerite? You have got to be kidding me.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Oh you are retard if you think I'm for Wenger staying. A Wengerite? You have got to be kidding me.

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Well if your quoting Wenger to make your case, a man who talks tripe almost all the time and clearly knows not how to manage a top team, then what else can one deduce?

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Well if your quoting Wenger to make your case, a man who talks tripe almost all the time and clearly knows not how to manage a top team, then what else can one deduce?

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If that's how your brain works then I can't help you.