"Men" being the operative. Faggots and faggot apologists - NO. This is a CHRISTIAN celebration, don't forget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
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"Men" being the operative. Faggots and faggot apologists - NO. This is a CHRISTIAN celebration, don't forget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Other people , chip in. You are on your honour to be honest.
Is Owen a better player than that fat fuck Salad?
And is (no, I'm seriously asking) Rice a better player than Keane?
Okay, I asked very stupid questions. My bad. But answer anyway.
Throw him a fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
I’d sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Salah > Owen but
Keane > Rice
Overall I don’t think there is a gulf in quality between football these days and that of yesteryear. Lots of things about football these days is obviously shitter, but I thought the quality in this game was pretty high.
I did find Owen’s comments on modern footballers interesting though, about how these days the game is so fast that to make it in football these days you have to be more of an athlete these days than technically good at football.
I would agree with that. Owen came up in an era where the best players in the world were all supremely gifted and athleticism wasn’t the be all and end all. Today’s game is more of a spectacle because of how fast it is but I don’t think the level of skill involved is the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Salah is a miles better player than Owen it’s not even close, Owen had a good low centre of gravity and pace but he was one dimensional. If you wanted to compare Salah as poor in comparison to Henry or Bergkamp slightly more sympathy thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Rice and Keane - In terms of pace and technique neither are that great, Rice is a slightly better passer but again not great. Both good readers of the game, Keane better tackler but not a lot in it.
I know it’s lovely to cry for the moon and say things are not what they used to be. But I watched enough football then and enough football now to realise that most of it is rose tinted spectacles.
I remember the game against Liverpool the last time we played on December 23rd, when Durkin sent off Van Bronckhorst and despite that we won the game 2-1. The Ljungberg goal was good football but the rest was scrappy and attritional.
If it’s just that you’ve fallen out of love with the game because of the financial doping, banter mentality, social media nonsense and the absolute fuck face of really terrible match officials, arbitrary rule changes etc. well who can blame you
But if you’re arguing there’s been a significant decline in the overall quality of footballers. Sorry I don’t see it
I don’t think it’s that technicality is lacking. Martinelli, Saka, Odegaard are all very good technically but the pace of the game doesn’t always give you the time to show off that technical skillQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Proper men are not whinging and insecure, would just be secure and content with their own lives rather than worry about how sodomites are ruining their Christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
But if it helps I’m sorry that your sacred holiday which you largely pinched from people you’d regard as heathens is just as much celebrated by people who at best believe Jesus was apocryphal (I’d go a little further and say if he did exist he was a cunt anyway).
That’s ecumenism for you
It’s like you and the multi coloured haired pronoun solipsists are just as annoying as each other. Both invoke slippery slope thinking, both deeply boring and actually at the core the real thing you’re unhappy about is that everyone else thinks you’re insufferable cunts
Salah is a much, much better player than Owen. And that's not even a knock on Owen, the boring cunt, he was a terrifying player but even he says his peak was 20/21. If that. He wasn't a bad player by any means but he was pretty much done by the time he left us. Salah the freak, barring any injury, will still be going strong at 36 or 37. As a pure finisher, Owen was amongst the best I've ever seen, but he was a striker; Salah is a winger scoring striker numbers of goals and still providing a huge number of chances for that shitkicker Nunez to miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I don't really necessarily agree with Owen either that football has gotten away from being technical to purely physical. Sure, players have to be a hell of a lot fitter and physically able than before, but a huge part of that is down to tactics being so much more based around pressing and team shape as a whole. It's not as if there aren't ludicrously technical players about either. Look at Alexander-Arnold. [Somewhat unfairly] maligned about his general play, the kid is hideously good.
Football is getting demonstrably shitter (could be a coincidence but may be because I'm getting older, my dad said the same about football in the 90s onwards, but then he always was a miserable bastard like me) but I don't subscribe to footballers getting shitter. You can point to Henry or Bergkamp, but they were amongst the best players of their generation but it's not like they weren't playing against some absolute shitkickers at the time as well.
Anyway I've forgotten what I was saying. I'm off to watch the 2001 Cup Final. Which was a pretty boring game. Henchoz :bow:
Someone give you a time machine for Christmas...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss