Do you still want Wenger as Arsenal manager?

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Originally Posted by Coney

I'm pretty sure that the board is involved - I have mentioned this before, based initially on the Ashley Cole saga when he hinted about the board not doing what he wanted, though he only mentioned it the once - I think he did not mean to reveal anything. He says what he does, knowing it is not the real story because he does not believe in washing the dirty linen in public and I respect that. His comments about quality and so on are a cover to avoid answering questions which would force him to reveal the backroom issues. The idea some seem to have that he does not understand what is wrong with the team is ridiculous - he knows what we need, just that there is a reason he can't get what he wants. What the reason is can't be known for certain but I don't believe it is because he won't pay a specific price. That article today suggesting the board are balking at the wages that the top players command has such a ring of truth about it and matches their pitch on the Ashley Cole saga - seems to be the same issue again.

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good post Coney and I do think that the whole situation is darker than just Wenger not realising or paying tofays going rate.
I refuse to believe that he is satified or even optimostic about the whole state of affairs but then O do wiestion he yeam choices Denilson, Diaby, Almunia et all
I mean if he had so little say then surely he has the right to take a stand, having the decency to not drag things out in public, I respect for biting your tongue must hurt, I am surprised he hasnt bit it clean off, then he eouldnt be able to speak at all. . . .which for some may be a blessing for both some fans and the board

Me I reckon the guy needs to grow a pair

I agree we won't win the thing, but not getting it would make it even harder to attract the top players, not that we are signing anyone anyway....

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

I sure hope we dont qualify. No point making the numbers. Hopefully that will lead to AW getting sacked or him changing his ways (highly unlikely)

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Not going to happen, you believe that AW is more powerful then the board then why would he get sacked them. Nah i thought about us going out the CL yeah i might be easier for us to win, but it be a disiaster since we may not get back next season.

Being in the cl will give the sqaud belif for the season and if it means we get the likes of KAKA(if it happens) then so be it.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Not going to happen, you believe that AW is more powerful then the board then why would he get sacked them. Nah i thought about us going out the CL yeah i might be easier for us to win, but it be a disiaster since we may not get back next season.

Being in the cl will give the sqaud belif for the season and if it means we get the likes of KAKA(if it happens) then so be it.

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The board is happy now coz he has been delivering CL football, bringing in more revenue. I do believe PHW and the old farts will do anything Arsene says but I think that Stan will not allow the standards to go too low. Us not qualifying could be the very important first step towards the beginning of the end of Wenger. Inshahallah this will happen :pray:

As for belief to the squad if they qualify.. it might give them brief belief but once they get into the knock out stages and get humiliated by the other top teams, their belief will come back to 0. Better now to go through the bad patch and pick ourselves up over the course of the season. We do know how vulnerable our lot are towards the end of the season.. so a drubbing by one of the top sides in Europe could see us slide down to 9th or 10th place! :yikes:

Can't see what good being in the CL does for us (footballistically™) as it brings in a load of money but we get comfortably beaten by the first big side we come up against.

Still want us to be in it as it's for the top clubs in the game (in the big leagues at least) but really wish we made more of an effort.

He should have gone when teh collapse became evident at the end of last season tbh. It genuinely upsets me that this witty, well spoken, gentleman of a football manager who bought us 3 great teams 1 of which is the single greatest team in this countries league history has become a beaten down, bitter, ranting man who seems completely detached from the world around him.

I am 100% positive that the wierdness currently surrounding the club isnt all down to him and that the board are up to some shenanigans that restricts purchasing. I am also sure that some fans have shown how naive they are around how current football business and media works. But this does not exscuse the tactics, the glass Jaw and the over reliance on unproven, expensive youngsters are HIS fault IMO. as someone said earlier the club have had all summer to sort this shit out and with 8 days of the transfer window left and already a defeat to one of our top 4 rivals we are worse off than we were in May. This again isnt all down to Wenger but the board cant sack itself sadly.

I still think he will be gone by xmas, out the champs league on Wednesday, early exit from the Carling cup and when we lose to manyoo next week we will already be some 8 points behind the leaders. If it is the board and he just doesnt want to show it in public then my respect for him returns but5 he wont walk.

bad times

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

I sure hope we dont qualify. No point making the numbers. Hopefully that will lead to AW getting sacked or him changing his ways (highly unlikely)

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Just so i have this straight, you're not happy we arent buying players but you dont want us to qualify for the champs league? A near £35mil pay day and greater attraction for top players?

Americans, know your limits.

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Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo

Just so i have this straight, you're not happy we arent buying players but you dont want us to qualify for the champs league? A near £35mil pay day and greater attraction for top players?

Americans, know your limits.

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Whats the point of attracting top talent when we are not going to buy them? :lol: We have not got a single top player in the last 6-7 seasons unless you count Arshavin in there! We have made stars out of nobodies but us playing in the CL was never used to get top quality players, only super super quality players like Squillaci and Chamakh!

So let me get this straight for u brits- I want us to get knocked out of CL this year so that it gives the owners, board members, AW perspective that we cannot go on depleting our squad with shit players, toddlers and expect to be there every season. I am hoping this kick up the arse will change things in the way the club is run. If yes, we will at least see above avg. players sign for the club- Samba, Jagielka, Marvin Martin etc. Right now, all we are getting are Jenkinson, OAC, Marco Polo (or something similar), some costarican hip hop artist... WTF! Surely getting knocked out of the CL will give AW the motivation to qualify for next season and may be, just fucking may be, he will sign the likes of Parker, Samba, Bellamy (unlikely) etc. At least we will be spared the rubbish we saw in the first 3 games of the season..

Do you seriously think, FY, that you and I, internet twats (no offence), are more able to see the deficiencies in our squad than Arsene Wenger?
Seriously?
I don't believe that.
He's either gone ABSOLUTELY MENTAL (unlikely, IMO) or there's something going on, probably at board level.
Neither of us know of course but I think the latter is more likely and if you think removing Wenger and getting another manager in will magically solve that and we'll be brilliant again then I'd suggest it's a little more complex than that.

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

Whats the point of attracting top talent when we are not going to buy them? :lol: We have not got a single top player in the last 6-7 seasons unless you count Arshavin in there! We have made stars out of nobodies but us playing in the CL was never used to get top quality players, only super super quality players like Squillaci and Chamakh!

So let me get this straight for u brits- I want us to get knocked out of CL this year so that it gives the owners, board members, AW perspective that we cannot go on depleting our squad with shit players, toddlers and expect to be there every season. I am hoping this kick up the arse will change things in the way the club is run. If yes, we will at least see above avg. players sign for the club- Samba, Jagielka, Marvin Martin etc. Right now, all we are getting are Jenkinson, OAC, Marco Polo (or something similar), some costarican hip hop artist... WTF! Surely getting knocked out of the CL will give AW the motivation to qualify for next season and may be, just fucking may be, he will sign the likes of Parker, Samba, Bellamy (unlikely) etc. At least we will be spared the rubbish we saw in the first 3 games of the season..

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You got some strange ideas hillbilly boy