Match Reaction v Borussia Dortmund

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Originally Posted by Syn

Also - although we didn't quite steal a win, it was refreshing to see a proper game of football with no diving or going down easy. There were many times when the Dortmund players could've gone down and appealed for a dangerous freekick or pen. The referee was always fantastic and didn't do the usual European thing of calling people up on slight nudges.

Overall, enjoyed it.

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Spot on.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

funny how most moan when arsenal do what dortmund did to us today, but because its dortmund its ok. they never really had any clear shots in that half hour imo

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One of these days you'll have to watch a match, then you'll understand I think.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Let's be clear here, Koscielny is sh*t, there isn't a match that he plays in which goes by where he doesn't make some sort of horrendous error (or more as is often the case).....and for a defender that's awful.

He's been a terrible signing so far.

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Agree with that. The difference with him though is he puts in a great effort, his heart is there but the poor lad has no clue how to defend. He wouldn't get a sniff in any other PL team, other than maybe those newly promoted. Kos will cost us lots of points this season but he'll put in 101% effort. It's quite sad in a way.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

and based on chesneys performances so far this season, and de gea valued at 18m, i value chesney at least double that. he has been exceptional, calm, collected and makes sure he gets the ball. number one for years to come and he will be the best keeper in the world one day

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That's great, Wenger will be pleased you value him at 36 million, seeing as we sold Cesc for less though can't see him being sold for anywhere near that if he is.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Agree with that. The difference with him though is he puts in a great effort, his heart is there but the poor lad has no clue how to defend. He wouldn't get a sniff in any other PL team, other than maybe those newly promoted. Kos will cost us lots of points this season but he'll put in 101% effort. It's quite sad in a way.

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I'd feel sorry for him but he gets way too much money for that.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

One of these days you'll have to watch a match, then you'll understand I think.

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i did watch that match, and what happened was dortmund pressurized us lots but didnt score till the last minute. now that means our defence held out till then. they didnt score millions with all that pressure, if that was arsenal, we would be moaning saying how we should have scored and all the possesion means nothing with no goals. arsenal did what htey had too, defend and counter, we nicked the goal. they just got lucky with theirs at the end

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

i did watch that match, and what happened was dortmund pressurized us lots but didnt score till the last minute. now that means our defence held out till then. they didnt score millions with all that pressure, if that was arsenal, we would be moaning saying how we should have scored and all the possesion means nothing with no goals. arsenal did what htey had too, defend and counter, we nicked the goal. they just got lucky with theirs at the end

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Our defence in the 1st half was caught out numerous times with simple balls through the middle, no sign of good defending there.

Dortmund were lacking in the shooting department IMO, maybe it was an off night or maybe they are generally like that, I don't know...one thing's for sure, we were lucky.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Our defence in the 1st half was caught out numerous times with simple balls through the middle, no sign of good defending there.

Dortmund were lacking in the shooting department IMO, maybe it was an off night or maybe they are generally like that, I don't know...one thing's for sure, we were lucky.

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dont think we were, we were leading until they nicked a last minute equalizer with a good but flukey goal :) but if the situation was reversed, you would be calling for wengers head and you know it

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

i did watch that match, and what happened was dortmund pressurized us lots but didnt score till the last minute. now that means our defence held out till then. they didnt score millions with all that pressure, if that was arsenal, we would be moaning saying how we should have scored and all the possesion means nothing with no goals. arsenal did what htey had too, defend and counter, we nicked the goal. they just got lucky with theirs at the end

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If we beat Dortmund at home and play well in the process then I'll agree and say we got a pragmatic point today. But if we play the same way I'll just conclude we are now a very, very average team. We're so boring to watch it's hard to reconcile it with what we used to see. It's like a period of shock, some of us will take longer to come out of it I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Agree with that. The difference with him though is he puts in a great effort, his heart is there but the poor lad has no clue how to defend. He wouldn't get a sniff in any other PL team, other than maybe those newly promoted. Kos will cost us lots of points this season but he'll put in 101% effort. It's quite sad in a way.

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He is not as bad as potrayed here though. Kos is definitely the best tackler in the team, he made clean tackle looks easy. :coffee: