Jamie Vardy - BBC Sport - Vardy set to reject Arsenal

I just want Wenger to fuck off.

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Originally Posted by Kano

40-50m bracket he might look at, as he did for Sanchez and Ozil. All depends who is available in that bracket.

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Originally Posted by selassie

Aye, 40-50m seems to be the going rate these days for anybody half decent.

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I suppose one advantage that we have over a lot of our rivals is that we're cash rich, so 40-50m from us could mean 40-50m up front, if it came to it, and not installments spread across years?

But that doesn't really do much to win the players themselves over...

We still have Giroud

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

We still have Giroud

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:loveblush:

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Originally Posted by I am invisible

I suppose one advantage that we have over a lot of our rivals is that we're cash rich, so 40-50m from us could mean 40-50m up front, if it came to it, and not installments spread across years? But that doesn't really do much to win the players themselves over...

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It's an advantage but I'm not so sure AW is flexible enough with his player valuations to take advantage of our position. I get the impression that he doesn't see a striker as a priority, well not in the sense of him having to spend the required money to bring a decent one in.

He said 3 players, that means there is 2 more coming in soon.

Keep the faith.

One of those two HAS TO BE a striker.

I'll judge him at the end of the transfer window :cool:

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Originally Posted by Letters

I'll judge him at the end of the transfer window :cool:

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I`ll judge him at the end of next season.

LCFC paying 100k pw for a 29 year old, are they Leeds in disguise?

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Originally Posted by Keith

LCFC paying 100k pw for a 29 year old, are they Leeds in disguise?

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A lot more cash in football than back in those days. £100K will soon be the starting point for any player that can identify a football and give a brief overview of what it's used for.

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Originally Posted by selassie

It's an advantage but I'm not so sure AW is flexible enough with his player valuations to take advantage of our position. I get the impression that he doesn't see a striker as a priority, well not in the sense of him having to spend the required money to bring a decent one in.

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Oh it's a priority for him alright! Whatever he might say about having faith in Giroud / Walcott / Welbeck / etc, the fact is he's gone after a striker every summer for the last 3 or 4 years. I suppose his personal valuations could be hindering some deals, but I suspect the explanation is a lot simpler than that: it's just a shitty time to be buying strikers right now. Not much on the market to begin with, loads of competition for whatever is there, and 90% of them probably won't solve any problem for us.

To be honest, I've never had any problem with Wenger's valuations - I think he's generally proved right on most of them. Where I have an issue with him is that he often seems to have no cheaper alternatives lined up - if he can't get his man, then he'd rather go into the season with a gaping hole in the squad than take a more pragmatic approach...

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Originally Posted by I am invisible

Oh it's a priority for him alright! Whatever he might say about having faith in Giroud / Walcott / Welbeck / etc, the fact is he's gone after a striker every summer for the last 3 or 4 years. I suppose his personal valuations could be hindering some deals, but I suspect the explanation is a lot simpler than that: it's just a shitty time to be buying strikers right now. Not much on the market to begin with, loads of competition for whatever is there, and 90% of them probably won't solve any problem for us.

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this is true

Not for the first time, I really wonder what our media team does all day. We have been behind the story at every stage with this Vardy bollocks. If we knew he was 50/50 at best, we should have been pushing out stories about interest in other striker options left, right and centre, i.e. a distraction strategy projecting the fact that we have many other options to pursue. As it is, complete silence, and we end up looking like the ugly kid nobody wants to invite to the prom.

I hear Kallstrom and Bischoff are available for a decent fee. Definitely worth a punt.

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Originally Posted by RomfordPele

Not for the first time, I really wonder what our media team does all day. We have been behind the story at every stage with this Vardy bollocks. If we knew he was 50/50 at best, we should have been pushing out stories about interest in other striker options left, right and centre, i.e. a distraction strategy projecting the fact that we have many other options to pursue. As it is, complete silence, and we end up looking like the ugly kid nobody wants to invite to the prom.

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I have observed that the club tends to do a lot of its transfer discussions and negotiations behind closed doors, away from the glare of the media. This makes it difficult for fans to know what is going on , and easy for agents (and players) to use alleged Arsenal interest to boost their negotiating position. Also, I suspect that the more a possible transfer is in the public forum, the more the price of a player goes up; often in excess of the actual value of the player.

Personally, I do not want to see the club take to the airwaves and social media while trying to buy a player.

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Originally Posted by Özim

He won't though we all know that, he's as cheap as they come, that's why we went for Vardy only 20 million, it was an opportunistic attempt to get someone on the cheap.

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From what was written in the media, Vardy's release clause had a price of £20 million. To pay more than that would be akin to you paying £40,000 for a car with a retail price of £20,000. A lower transfer price would allow the club to pay the player more.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Griezmann signs new deal with Ateltico.

We should make an offer.

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Pretty much everything I read said that Griezmann did not want to move. He is an exciting prospect, but I do not think that there was a realistic chance to get him.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

I`ll judge him at the end of next season.

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I'll judge him when he says I am allowed to :good:

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

I have observed that the club tends to do a lot of its transfer discussions and negotiations behind closed doors, away from the glare of the media. This makes it difficult for fans to know what is going on , and easy for agents (and players) to use alleged Arsenal interest to boost their negotiating position. Also, I suspect that the more a possible transfer is in the public forum, the more the price of a player goes up; often in excess of the actual value of the player.

Personally, I do not want to see the club take to the airwaves and social media while trying to buy a player.

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Or we do no negotiations behnd closed doors and sit there whilst other clubs snap up players we should be signing up and we end up with nothing but at the end of the transfer window.

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

Pretty much everything I read said that Griezmann did not want to move. He is an exciting prospect, but I do not think that there was a realistic chance to get him.

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If you don't try you'll never know and we never try, plenty of players have in the past said they didn't want to move but soon found themselves at another club a few weeks later.

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

From what was written in the media, Vardy's release clause had a price of £20 million. To pay more than that would be akin to you paying £40,000 for a car with a retail price of £20,000. A lower transfer price would allow the club to pay the player more.

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I wasn't suggesting we should bid more for Vardy, I was saying he was a cheap option which is what attracted Wenger, now to get someone decent he'll have to pay a lot more and he won't do it.

We can only hope he snaps up some prospect now, a decent one not the rubbish he usually goes for.

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Originally Posted by RomfordPele

Not for the first time, I really wonder what our media team does all day. We have been behind the story at every stage with this Vardy bollocks. If we knew he was 50/50 at best, we should have been pushing out stories about interest in other striker options left, right and centre, i.e. a distraction strategy projecting the fact that we have many other options to pursue. As it is, complete silence, and we end up looking like the ugly kid nobody wants to invite to the prom.

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We only seem able to focus on one player at a time and when that goes pearshaped we sit there scratching our heads wondering what just happened with no backup plan in sight.

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Originally Posted by Özim

We can only hope he goes.

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Exactly zimm :)

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Originally Posted by I am invisible

To be honest, I've never had any problem with Wenger's valuations - I think he's generally proved right on most of them. Where I have an issue with him is that he often seems to have no cheaper alternatives lined up - if he can't get his man, then he'd rather go into the season with a gaping hole in the squad than take a more pragmatic approach...

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I wouldn't say he was proved right with Suarez and Alonso, I personally think he's cheap and won't pay the going rate, this ends up meaning we don't sign the players we need.

Xhaka is an odd one for me, we paid 33 million for someone barely known, IMO he's overpriced for that money and that's a very odd sitatuon, having said the fact he is unknown probably appealed to Wenger, he'll be able to show people he found another gem if he works out, he loves doing that.

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Exactly zimm :)

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Yeah, seems like that will take a miracle though.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Yeah, seems like that will take a miracle though.

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I know.... And the rumours of being offered a new contract are still worryingly, doing the rounds :unsure::sulk:

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Originally Posted by Özim

We only seem able to focus on one player at a time and when that goes pearshaped we sit there scratching our heads wondering what just happened with no backup plan in sight.

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If Plan A doesnt work, then you try Plan A again. Havent you learnt anything from the brilliant tactics displayed by the Lord over the last decade?

Couldnt defend from set pieces in 06, still cant defend from set pieces.
Played players out of position, still do that.
Put faith in crocks, still put faith in crocks.
Play boring tippy tappy, still play boring tippy tappy
And many more..

You see... life is about continuing to do what 'you think' is right. If all the data and evidence points otherwise, you just ignore it. This is how real gangstas roll! :cool:

No point having this thread anymore.

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