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If true, just one more of the many, many reasons why Wenger should be sacked.Quote:
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is growing increasingly frustrated at Arsenal's lack of activity over his new contract - opening up the prospect of him leaving this summer.
The England international is eager to resolve his future and was expecting Arsenal to begin talks quickly — however the Gunners are yet to formally offer him a new deal.
Until the season just gone, his performances were never anything to write home about and I wouldn't have had any problems with selling him last year, frankly he looked shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
However he's one of the few to come out of this season with any credit, he somehow managed to up his game at a time where the majority of the team lost their bollocks. Fair play, hope he signs an extension kicks on from here. Would I blame him if he left though? Probably not. He's been here for 5 years and is only marginally better than the day he signed. The manager has never known what to do with him and I think he would benefit from playing under a better coach.
I think Chamberlain owes it to Arsenal to stay. 1-2 good seasons and only in parts. It would be pretty poor form if he went to Liverpool at this stage. I think it's a case of a substantial pay rise he's after rather than Arsenal delaying. You know he's been tapped up and offered silly money from somewhere else.
Perhaps Wenger should re-sign Henry in a coaching capacity - that might swing a deal for Mbappe - they seem quite similar in many ways.
What is Thomas Lemar valued at?
I think it's mostly because Wenger is a stupid cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
More likely to sign up one of those nodding heads you stick on car dashboards. Henry might not be able to nod fast enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
Wenger has lost his touch when it comes to developing young players. He really has. If you look at his record over the past 10 years and it's pretty poor. I wouldn't blame Ox for for moving on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Well, he tried. He turned it down to work at Sky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
Same thing could have been said about a number of past players. Nasri, Adebayor, Van Persie all went through a golden patch after some poor seasons (injuries/bad form) and they all fucked off with little care for the club. Loyalty is a dying commodity in the football business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
The ever reliable Sky Sources are claiming West Ham are trying to sign Giroud. :lol:
Saw that a few days ago. He won't go to West Ham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
If we wanted him to stay the club should have offered him a contract extension months ago. They still haven't done anything so either they expect him to sign anything they put on the table or they don't care if he leaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
But we've yet to offer him a new contract. What's Ox supposed to do in this situation? If we wanted him we'd have offered him a deal by now. The balls in our court. Not sure why you guys are aiming shots at Ox for disloyalty. Just another case of the club not handling business badly. It's not as if he's pulling a Sanchez and Ozil by stalling on signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thierrymon
Reminds me of how the Cole situation started. We were focused on resigning Henry and kinda took Cole for granted by assuming he'd sign a new deal and offering less than he expected late on. That soured the relationship with the club. Walcott went through a similar situation and publicly warned the club to not assume he'll sign just any contract handed out. Even Bergkamp went through a summer where the club left him in limbo all summer and never knew if he had played his last game for Arsenal. That situation could have ended badly with Bergkamp signing somewhere else. The fact that this still happens suggests lessons haven't been learned. We can't be so quick to accuse a player of being disloyal given our history.
Exactly. It's done to Wenger and the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Wenger went public saying that he wanted Ox to stay back in March /April. Definitely other factors in this. The club won't announce they've already offered a contract only that it's been turned down. I see it more that Ox and his peeps haven't been offered the contract they want!Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
No the club won't announce a contract being offered but that doesn't mean one has been offered, Wenger is a champion prevaricator the restaurant closes whilst he is still agonising over what to order for an aperitif.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
From what I've read, both parties have agreed the salary but no formal contract talks have taken place. Either way, you can't accuse the player of disloyalty if the club don't want to resign him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
It's not as if the club hasn't got a history of this. Think back to the Bergkamp situation i mentioned earlier. Wenger says a lot of shit he doesn't follow through with. What do you expect him to say when speaking Ox? No we want to sell?
He doesn't really owe Arsenal anything. If he wishes to leave and has been offered a better contract elsewhere than so be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
I mean why are we dragging our feet out over offering our first team players these deals anyway? Why does it always have to come to this?
Why were we so quick to offer the likes of Coquelin and Giroud new deals yet not Ox?
The running of this football club is a complete and utter sham, it's embarrassing.
They'll do the bare minimum again, the very least they think they can get away with. Wenger's back in his element, as if last season didn't even happen.
Spot on, we're quick to reward the rubbish ones with new contracts but when it comes to the better players we seem to let them run down their deals till they have a year left and drag our heels ridiculously.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Just an embarrassment to be honest, nothing at this club is done properly.
Alexis, Ozil and Ox' futures all up in the air and probably a summer of BS rumours about players we have no chance of signing like Mbappe, sick of this rubbish.
We should sort out a deals quickly for a change, oh I forgot we do when it's some nobody freebie we don't have to pay for or when it's average players in our squad nobody wants, but as soon as it's half decent players or important member sof our squad we take forever.
How this club has fallen from grace, the stadium move has proven a poison chalice for the fans.
Aye, this is what I just find incredible. We are up to our old tricks again after that abomination of a season. Wenger won't change and he certainly doesn't seem to think he needs to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yep. To be honest we are so use to this rubbish now it will probably come of no surprise to anybody when we fail to land any of our primary targets and most likely lose our star player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I use to think we were unlucky in the market years ago, I use to attribute our lousy luck to the stadium move and stuff like that. The last few seasons have proven beyond doubt we are in this situation due to our own incompetence and I don't see anything changing this summer.
I just think every decision we seem to make is pretty lousy, giving Wenger a new contract, not getting important players signed up, not signing players we need early, just everything really, what's worse is nothing ever changes, fully expecting another frustrating summer where we get linked with pipedream players would have no chance of signing, maybe the odd nobody signed and then another farce 2-3 weeks into the new season on transfer deadline day where we just panic buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
So much wrong as this club and yet none of the people in control care, it seems to be all about lining their own pockets and nothing else.
That cunt's trying to force Alexis out of the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
Chelsea circling for Ox
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...rlain-10649980
Or, it's a load of old shit just like most of the stuff you hear.
Alexis, Ox, Monreal, these are the players who stood up when everyone else pissed off and these are the players we should be doing everything to keep. Instead, the contracts of the first two still haven't been resolved and there are rumours of Monreal pissing off back to Spain. Apart from Cazorla and Bellerin (so we could get a bigger fee), have we managed to secure contracts for any of the key players? This feels like the start of the decline that was bound to set in once we dropped out of the top 4. It was imperative to move instantly to sign up our existing star players, but also to land a big new signing as a measure of the club's intent. But seeing as the only intent is to make money, we've haven't done any of those things.
Expect to see this shit drag on and on throughout the summer.
Typical Arsenal no signings yet and pissing off existing players that we should keep
On this day 22 years ago, we signed Bergy.
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4b&oe=59DA4CAF
Don't fret, it won't be long before we are blaming Chelsea and Man City for the inflated market and why we are incapable of signing top class players!Quote:
Originally Posted by rodders
Rioch :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
Also reading that article what a load of nonsense Pearce spoke, thought we should have signed Collymore over Bergkamp :lol:
Except we have made a signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodders
Taxi for Rodders...
We have made one signing, some freebie nobody unknown from the Bundesligue, another typical Wenger signing, cheap and unknown is what he cares about, level of quality doesn't seem to be a criteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodders
Summer is going well, our best players futures up in the air with nothing near to being signed (will drag on most of the summer I'm sure) and some bs rumours about players we'll never sign. We're incapable or simply not willing to make the necessary signings in a timely manner. Incompetence doesn't even begin to describe our handling of transfers/contracts.
How we let Sanchez/Ozil/Ox run down their contracts like that whilst offering dross like Giroud/Coquelin new contracts is beyond me.
Summer is neither going well nor badly, ignore all the media balls and let's see what we actually do (or don't do).
I'd say it's going pretty badly so far, one freebie signed, 3 of our best players not signed up and possibly leaving and noone decent signed or close to be signed. The whole summer will pass up by like it usually does and nothing but scraps wil be left.
What we actually do can probably be predicted, we do similar things every summer and it's never the things we need or fans want, this summer won't be any different, the club have already offered new contracts to all the backroom staff despite all the changes mooted before, tells you all you need to know really, nothing is going change, expect a bunch of nobodies to come through the door as is often the case.
This should have been the scenario:
1) Make a statement and sign a couple big star players early
2) Get Sanchez/Ozil/Ox deals sorted out early or find replacements
Instead we're in no mans land again, with some nobody on board and nothign sorted. Not great is it?
I know poetic licence!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
There is a sense of deja poo this summer. Same shit different summer.
FY miserable because his team lost to Pakistan in the cricket.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
That Pearce article was hilarious.
As for signings, we need to sign our own players first.
Let's just say, we haven't been as decisive as it would have benefitted us to be. After all, it has only been a decade of the same old thing. Hardly long enough to start making concrete predictions about inevitabilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim