Wenger Slaughterhouse

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

Heres a quote I read from Wenger after the City game and I forget if it was posted on here or not.

"The players are nervous because they feel the scepticism around the team. The players feel that they want to do well. They have a great desire to do well, so maybe they're a bit too anxious that that they don't respond completely to the expectation level of the crowd."

Who on earth says this? It's not the players fault for being unprepared, and it's certainly not my fault for them not being unprepared. It's the fans fault for having too high of an expectation level. The man has completely lost the plot. And some fans dont understand the criticism and the personal remarks aimed at Wenger - the guy has ZERO respect for the fans, none. The only voice he is hearing is the one of an old, stubborn, completely out of touch man who once was a great manager. Now, for me personally, I have lost the respect and that admiration of that great manager, a man who was a visionary...once you start blaming someone else, you are finished. I think fans who continue to support him are deluded...as an addictions counselor its liken to the heroin addict continuing to use knowing the devastation hes causing himself...Wenger supporters do the same but the difference is the addicts understand what the damage that drug is doing. Wenger supporters not so much.

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Totally agree with this, it's not the fans fault he can't do his job properly, he'd do well to remember that he wouldn't have a job if the fans weren't lining his pockets...because that's where the money comes from.

I hate the way this guy shifts the blame to the fans, how often do you hear manager's blame the fans...pretty much never as most of the time they'd end up getting lynched.

He lives in his own deluded little world where his team are world class and 2% away from domination, he never actually see's what's actually right in front of his nose, if he did he'd wake up and see they're are 21 points behind the league leaders and actually closer to the relegation zone then the top of the league...as that's due to bad luck or the fans!

I saw Wenger kissing Gaaaazidis....underneath the bronze statue of Henry!........sorry i know x-mas has been over a month almost.

On the flip side of what Mr Lahey is saying, if the players are too deaf to criticism and full of self-belief, they turn into Walcott. Walcott thinks he's worth 100k a week, thinks he can take set pieces, thinks he's capable of shooting in situations other than just-inside-the-area-with-the-inside-of-his-foot and never looks suitably ashamed when he completely shits everything up.

Whilst the "Ramsey" mentality of crumbling under shitty abuse from your own fans isn't ideal, the arrogance of the "Walcott" mentality is far more frustrating for me, personally. At least we know Ramsey has some talent underneath all the flapping.

The atmosphere at the Emirates is terrible though.....and despite the fact that i can understand the fans frustration and apathy there is certainly no surprise that we have lost more games at home than away from home.....it's not quite as bad as Stamford Bridge where you can clearly see the negative behavior of the fans towards Benitez is having a detrimental effect on their home form.
I don't like the way the football club is being run but neither do i see any point in booing at a football ground, if you don't like what your seeing why go week in, week out....to be honest i have had plenty of opportunities to see Arsenal this season but frankly I don't want to because i find it a bit of a demoralizing experience...and not just because of the tripe that gets served up on the pitch.

If you've paid for a season ticket you're not going to not bother turning up to be honest as that would be a waste of money. I think the performance and quality of the team is below par and the fan reaction is reflective of that, we sold our best player in the summer and showed our small time mentality. If you treat the fans like mugs don't expect them to be jumping for joy.

When you sell your best players, don't spend in the transfer market and give the fans little to cheer at you can't expect a great atmosphere, especially when you're charging sky high prices, it's the teams job to deliver, it's not up to the fans to make them believe they can do it....I'd say that's the manager's job if the players don't have it in them.

Maybe that's the problem rather than the fans, Wenger believes, but none of the players do.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

listen, when you charge what they do for tickets, when you spout things out about being a big club, world class club, about 2% away from domination, not choosing to buy etc...you cannot expect anything less. the club, wenger have done it to themselves it has nothing to do with the fans and for him to make that comment is fucking arrogant. the abuse from fans, the reaction they get...thats not specific to Arsenal. Its part of what they signed up for when they signed these million dollar contracts. You want to collect that cheque from the fans DEAL with it, take on ownership for the results instead of passing the buck off on the people who pay your fucking salary.

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I'm just about to watch the Habs Leafs game, and I can't help thinking what kind of abuse an Arsenal crowd would heap on the Leafs. And man, whatever it is, those ****s would deserve it.

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Originally Posted by V-Pig

On the flip side of what Mr Lahey is saying, if the players are too deaf to criticism and full of self-belief, they turn into Walcott. Walcott thinks he's worth 100k a week, thinks he can take set pieces, thinks he's capable of shooting in situations other than just-inside-the-area-with-the-inside-of-his-foot and never looks suitably ashamed when he completely shits everything up.

Whilst the "Ramsey" mentality of crumbling under shitty abuse from your own fans isn't ideal, the arrogance of the "Walcott" mentality is far more frustrating for me, personally. At least we know Ramsey has some talent underneath all the flapping.

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Who the fuck calls Lahey "Mr. Lahey"? It's "Lahey" unless you're a pot bellied cheeseburger eating fag.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

The atmosphere at the Emirates is terrible though.....and despite the fact that i can understand the fans frustration and apathy there is certainly no surprise that we have lost more games at home than away from home.....it's not quite as bad as Stamford Bridge where you can clearly see the negative behavior of the fans towards Benitez is having a detrimental effect on their home form.
I don't like the way the football club is being run but neither do i see any point in booing at a football ground, if you don't like what your seeing why go week in, week out....to be honest i have had plenty of opportunities to see Arsenal this season but frankly I don't want to because i find it a bit of a demoralizing experience...and not just because of the tripe that gets served up on the pitch.

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The atmosphere has been a long time coming. Many who bemoan the atmosphere, forget the patience the fans have shown this team through the years, And no one forgets or lacks appreciation of this more than Wenger.

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Originally Posted by V-Pig

On the flip side of what Mr Lahey is saying, if the players are too deaf to criticism and full of self-belief, they turn into Walcott. Walcott thinks he's worth 100k a week, thinks he can take set pieces, thinks he's capable of shooting in situations other than just-inside-the-area-with-the-inside-of-his-foot and never looks suitably ashamed when he completely shits everything up.

Whilst the "Ramsey" mentality of crumbling under shitty abuse from your own fans isn't ideal, the arrogance of the "Walcott" mentality is far more frustrating for me, personally. At least we know Ramsey has some talent underneath all the flapping.

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do you not think walcott is nominated for set pieces like arteta is for penalty kicks? apart from that, the rest of your post is completely absurd and quite sad.

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Originally Posted by GB.

Who the fuck calls Lahey "Mr. Lahey"? It's "Lahey" unless you're a pot bellied cheeseburger eating fag.

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And he can teach how to get drunk, get fired from the police force become a... lousy trailer park supervisor that sucks, hangs around with a fuckin' idiot that doesn't wear a shirt and looks like a dick but thinks he looks good... 101.