Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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Originally Posted by LDG

You know what I mean. I don't think Vardy is the solution to our problems.

I don't think that player is easy to find by any means, but I don't think we're ambitious enough to find a player that is of the calibre we need. Clever and mobile is the main thing....Giroud is clever (IMO), but he's slow, and not ruthless enough.

Who knows, I've long since lost hope anyway, so hopefully if it is Vardy, he proves me wrong.....I just can't get excited about it anymore.

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Yeah totally agree and feel your pain. :gp:

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Originally Posted by selassie

If we buy Vardy Wenger will have him out on the Wing in no time, you just watch.

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I don't see why he would when he called him the best striker in the Premier, mid-way through last season.

Came in to this thread expecting to see transfer rumours yet Mesut is getting a kicking again for some reason?

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Originally Posted by Kano

I don't see why he would when he called him the best striker in the Premier, mid-way through last season.

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a) Clearly he isn't
b) The fact he said that tells you how deluded he is
c) He plays everyone on the wing you should know that by now

Nope, nothing in this one either.

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Originally Posted by Özim

a) Clearly he isn't
b) The fact he said that tells you how deluded he is
c) He plays everyone on the wing you should know that by now

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I remember pulling my hair out when he would bring Bendtner and Eduardo on the wings. There was also an instances where players like Diaby and Cesc were put on the wing. I am sure we can write page upon page of AW's brain farts like these.

Guys, we haven't even signed him yet so it's perhaps a bit premature to criticise the manager for sticking him on the wing.

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

The reason why commented about the number of times Payet has played for France (in my other post) is that that while no one has doubted his ability, he has been too inconsistent for the national team and the big European clubs. With regard to Germany, most of their players have been "passengers" so far. Having said that, if you can't spot the difference (and the quality of Ozil) I can't discuss this with you. :)

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You missed what I said in the other thread but in essence, it's all about seeing a player drive a team forward when others aren't looking inspired. I don't think there is anything Payet has in his locker that Ozil doesn't have when comparing technical skill. It's just a difference in taking responsibility and initiative. The fact that everyone else in the German team was a passenger doesn't excuse Ozil. It's on those occasions where we need someone to really step up with their performance.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

Have you seen us play? We dilly dally the entire game being irrelevant and only pick up steam once we are a goal or two behind or its the last 10 minutes of the game. Do you see Vardy being effective in the 80 minutes of shit fest we have in most games? Vardy scores on the counter AND when the ball is moved quickly from front to back. Its not to say he doesnt score scrambled goals but his main strength (at least what seemed evident from last season) is when the ball is moved pretty quickly and attack the opposition box.

Now, if you are going to tell me that we move the ball around quickly and attack the opposition penalty area, then I am sorry to tell you that your cable provider has been showing you reruns of our games from more than a decade back.

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Agreed. I haven't seen anything in his game to suggest he's the man to break the deadlock when we're looking uninspired and slow paced. Not saying he's incapable but he wouldn't be my first pick so early in a transfer window.

So what are you all saying? That we should persist with the bollocks system we have, and therefore Vardy doesn't fit? By logical extension you must also be saying that despite Wenger's bid he doesn't see this, he somehow thinks Vardy is ideal. After all he's the first striker we've bid for. What's that bid all about then? Trying to buy a square peg for a round hole? Is it impossible to entertain the idea Wenger may be trying to make adjustments to the system, hence Vardy? In fact isn't that a sensible conclusion to reach?

Now I know we are dealing with Wenger, so maybe he sees Vardy as an able backup for Cech. But probably not. You are all just assuming we will persist with the failed system that hasn't served us. And if we had put a bid in for Morata or Ibrahimovich I'd be inclined to think the same. But we've put a bid in for Vardy. So we might say hey, he won't fit the system. But if the system is changing then that argument is washed away.

And anyway, of course, the argument is built on the myth Vardy is incapable unless a ball is lumped over the top. So it's kind of generous to entertain the argument in the first place.