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11-08-2011, 12:07 PM
Cripps_orig

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Wigan have West Bromwich Albion frontman Peter Odemwingie in their sights as a replacement for Hugo Rodallega, who they fear could be a target for Arsenal.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arsenal have joined Tottenham in the race for FC Twente striker Bryan Ruiz.
Full story: Daily Mail

:lol:

Is that the type of players we attract these days?
11-08-2011, 12:11 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Ach

:lol:

Is that the type of players we attract these days?

It'll be Campbell, he may be as cheap as £900K so I doubt Wenger is looking anywhere else. Ruiz is probably a smokescreen, we're pretending to sign one shit nobody whilst secretly pulling off a coup to sign a completely different shit nobody.
11-08-2011, 12:31 PM
Özim

If Wenger's words "If we lose both Cesc and Nasri this summer we can no longer be called a big club".

That's what he said, if it does indeed take place, he's turned us from a big club to no longer a big club......that would be a failure in his book.
11-08-2011, 12:37 PM
LDG

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

If Wenger's words "If we lose both Cesc and Nasri this summer we can no longer be called a big club".

That's what he said, if it does indeed take place, he's turned us from a big club to no longer a big club......that would be a failure in his book.

Depends on whether, and who, he replaces them with. Nasri is a lesbo who's proved nothing as yet.

Cesc? Yeah, big loss, and an awful indictment of how badly we've carried out our business this summer. But what do you do? Let him rot on the bench or just let the cunt go??

If we actually spend the money on proven talent, it's worth it. Utd let Ronaldo go, and it's much the same thing IMO.
11-08-2011, 12:39 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by LDG

Depends on whether, and who, he replaces them with. Nasri is a lesbo who's proved nothing as yet.

Cesc? Yeah, big loss, and an awful indictment of how badly we've carried out our business this summer. But what do you do? Let him rot on the bench or just let the cunt go??

If we actually spend the money on proven talent, it's worth it. Utd let Ronaldo go, and it's much the same thing IMO.

Those were Wenger's words though, not mine.

I agree about replacing them, however I'm not sure we'll find it that easy to find quality replacements, or indeed be willing to spend adequate amounts on suitable players, especially now we're into August.
11-08-2011, 12:42 PM
Darth Vela

I still think losing Nasri would be a bad move, regardless of who we bring in as they're gonna need time to bed in etc. etc. so we'll be relying on Rambo/Wilshere/Arshavin/RvP for our creative drive. Then again, we've been overloaded with technical play-wingers for quite a while so maybe a we'll get a replacement more suitable for the Premiership and our squad and go on to dominate; there's still far too much uncertainty for a difficult start to the season and that should have been avoidable.
11-08-2011, 12:43 PM
Darth Vela

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Those were Wenger's words though, not mine.

I agree about replacing them, however I'm not sure we'll find it that easy to find quality replacements, or indeed be willing to spend adequate amounts on suitable players, especially now we're into August.

See my post on the previous page, Wenger's a serial bullshitter so it's best to judge by actions rather than words, however atm the conclusions become pretty similar anyway. :d
11-08-2011, 12:45 PM
LDG

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Those were Wenger's words though, not mine.

I agree about replacing them, however I'm not sure we'll find it that easy to find quality replacements, or indeed be willing to spend adequate amounts on suitable players, especially now we're into August.

Well yeah...but do you believe what wenger says?? You're believing them now, but not other times?? I'm not advocating his actions or words at all...merely pointing out that you're moving the goalposts :letters:

Regards the players....a marquee signing would be nice...but IMHO, it's about the team. And we need to start playing as a unit again, not just through one or two worldclass players. We can play all the pretty football we want, but if we can't defend and we don't shoot, there's no bloody point. So, I'd rather he bought in some players that will compliment the players we have already....names don't matter so much, but the type and quality really does.
11-08-2011, 12:48 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by LDG

Well yeah...but do you believe what wenger says?? You're believing them now, but not other times?? I'm not advocating his actions or words at all...merely pointing out that you're moving the goalposts :letters:

Regards the players....a marquee signing would be nice...but IMHO, it's about the team. And we need to start playing as a unit again, not just through one or two worldclass players. We can play all the pretty football we want, but if we can't defend and we don't shoot, there's no bloody point. So, I'd rather he bought in some players that will compliment the players we have already....names don't matter so much, but the type and quality really does.

I'm not really moving the goalposts here, he is full of BS yes....but why would you even say something like this.

With the transfer things there seems to be some sort of twisted point, but noone asked him to say that...he said it of his own free will.

I find it odd a manager would say that if he felt they could go.

My take on it is that losing your best players is a bad thing and that it doesnt' reflect well on the club, one player fine but two after what's been happening what we've done this summer seems over the top.

Realistically new players need time to settle.
11-08-2011, 01:01 PM
LDG

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

I'm not really moving the goalposts here, he is full of BS yes....but why would you even say something like this.

With the transfer things there seems to be some sort of twisted point, but noone asked him to say that...he said it of his own free will.

I find it odd a manager would say that if he felt they could go.

Well, he couldn't well say "it's my intention to let them go". Certainly in fabregas case, it would be an invite to Barca to fuck around even more than they have been. He was under contract, so I believe it was his way of saying "he's ours, so fuck off unless you want to pay up", and to other clubs "we don't have to sell if we don't want to".

Make of it what you will.

Me? I'm far more concerned with his and IG's comments about strengthening and doing what was necessary to get us to the party on time. which has clearly not happened. I my mind, that crime is far worse than anything he could have said about "big club" shite....we're still a big club, and always will be. Just like Liverpool are still a big club....and they were fucking awful last year...worse than us!
11-08-2011, 01:07 PM
Cripps_orig

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...jadson-as-they

After Jadson according to L'Equipe to replace Cesc
11-08-2011, 01:07 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by LDG

Well, he couldn't well say "it's my intention to let them go". Certainly in fabregas case, it would be an invite to Barca to fuck around even more than they have been. He was under contract, so I believe it was his way of saying "he's ours, so fuck off unless you want to pay up", and to other clubs "we don't have to sell if we don't want to".

Make of it what you will.

Me? I'm far more concerned with his and IG's comments about strengthening and doing what was necessary to get us to the party on time. which has clearly not happened. I my mind, that crime is far worse than anything he could have said about "big club" shite....we're still a big club, and always will be. Just like Liverpool are still a big club....and they were fucking awful last year...worse than us!

I agree with you, but I also don't trust him when it comes to signings.

He almost always takes the cheap or youth option, he's completely lost perspective and his refusal to pay a bit extra for something that could make such a huge difference is baffling.

So far this summer he's basically stuck two fingers up and the fans and everyone else and said I'm not listening to any of you I'm doing it my way because it's the only way.

I also agree with the comments someone made about him being indecisive and dithering, he doesn't seem to be able to react quickly to anything, everything is a long drawn out process with him involved...sometimes you just need to act to make your intentions clear and to send a warning out to other clubs.

We'll be portrayed as a club that wil cash in on it's top stars but won't pay the going rate for established players.
11-08-2011, 01:13 PM
IBK

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Originally Posted by Ach

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...jadson-as-they

After Jadson according to L'Equipe to replace Cesc

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...They have previously been linked with Valencia's Juan Mata, but 27-year-old Jadson now appears to be in the frame, as manager Arsene Wenger considers the Brazil international to be a cheaper alternative.

Jadson has a contract with Shakhtar until December 2014, but an offer between £7m and £8.8m could be enough to lure him away from the Ukrainian side.

Oh, just fuck off Wenger!
11-08-2011, 01:14 PM
Joker

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Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping

Oh, just fuck off Wenger!

He knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.
11-08-2011, 01:16 PM
LDG

You might say he's a free market fundamentalist :good:
11-08-2011, 01:19 PM
IBK

...and Scott Dann...

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...the Midlands club are holding out for £10m for the centre-back, who has also attracted interest from Liverpool, Stoke City and Sunderland this summer.

Arsenal are confident they have moved into the driving seat for Dann’s signature and sources close to the negotiations believe the Londoners are “close” to agreeing a deal.

Birmingham’s well-documented financial problems have convinced Arsenal they can buy the defender for below the asking price that has been quoted to suitors this summer.

Again, just fuck off, Wenger!
11-08-2011, 01:21 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by LDG

You might say he's a free market fundamentalist :good:

Id rather say hes a cunt
11-08-2011, 01:23 PM
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We don't have 4 CB's, we have Djourou, Squillaci, Koscielny (whatever they are, certainly not CBs) and one CB who is surrounded by speculation of a shift to LB because tight wad wouldn't buy a replacement for Clichy. We won't get £50mill in either, it sounds like the Fabregas deal is a lot less than originally thought, 18.5mill now, more next year and the significant remainder made up in performance related add-ons and savings on (fuck me, it's hard to believe) compensation payments to the little cunt. The savings shit doesn't count, you might as well say he was being paid £6mill a year so the transfer fee is actually £24mill more because we'll save his wages. Savings is not an amount of money paid by the cuntalans to us, so how can it be included as part of the transfer fee? It's a smokescreen to lessen the blow as the fans discover how weak we've been in the market again. Even if we do get £50mill, all the pointers indicate a £6mill move for a mediocre defender called Dann (WTFRU?) and you're probably right, it's delusional to imagine tight wad will spring for two defenders. Take a look at the situation up front too. RvP and then what? Chamakh (FFS) and Vela provided he doesn't go on loan. So I guess that means either another injury prone Walcott moving into the centre or the untried Gervinho taking up the role. Yet again, Wenger opts for zero experience as the solution despite all the harsh lessons dished out to us over the last few years. Talk is Wenger is going to reinforce his inability to learn simple lessons by signing some kid called Campbell. In truth the only way it could be a good summer now is if Wenger fucked off. He's done enough damage, his time should be up before he does any more.

we do have 4 cb's. there might be an air of negativity but dont try and spin things to fit into your argument.

wenger has said gibbs will be given a first team chance at lb, meaning jenkinson will cover him. TV will also be able to fill in should jenkinson play rb (if sagna gets injured).

that means we have 4 cb's at the mo, and dann coming in as a 5th. simple as that.

as for the cesc fee, a number of sources are saying its £29m or so up front, £5m variables and £5m given by cesc over 5 years. so roughly £30m up front. for nasri we'll get £20m.

that makes 50m.

which is what i said in my original post.

also gervinho will play up front when rvp is injured, with oxo providing competition on the wings. just as he done during pre season.
11-08-2011, 01:23 PM
Kano

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Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping

...and Scott Dann...

Again, just fuck off, Wenger!

don't let yourself be influenced by the media or anything
11-08-2011, 01:27 PM
Japan Shaking All Over

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

I'm not really moving the goalposts here, he is full of BS yes....but why would you even say something like this.

With the transfer things there seems to be some sort of twisted point, but noone asked him to say that...he said it of his own free will.

I find it odd a manager would say that if he felt they could go.

My take on it is that losing your best players is a bad thing and that it doesnt' reflect well on the club, one player fine but two after what's been happening what we've done this summer seems over the top.

Realistically new players need time to settle.

I agree that losing our prize assets in sime circkes would be considered a bad move and a step backwards but the damage that their two seperate sagas are having on the patience and morale of the club and the delay they are causing to us righting any of the bad traits that we still havent addressed leads me to think it is a risk
worth taking
however such endorsement comes with a condition/plea to use the money garnered from such transactions that will help the team now and not 10 yeats down the line, we will need gifted battle hardened troops and the kind of nancy boys that flatter to deceive
I agree with LDG Arsenal could do no worse than to bring back the ethos of a team, a unit not an individual like Cesc was, great player and on his day a joy but at other times a laboursome deadweight that dammed the flow of play. A couple of GHELs in the Cahill/Jags modes would help the defence in this respect, Jack in the centre and someone to play with RvP although not a true GHEL is an orange version of one
11-08-2011, 01:36 PM
IBK

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

don't let yourself be influenced by the media or anything

I'm not over-influenced by the media, my friend. I am influenced by what we have all seen with our own eyes - not just this Summer, but for years. Eschewing experience/pedigree for cheaper priced alternatives; refusing to strengthen when clearly we need it; losing prospective deals for the sake of relatively small sums of money. Gambling on relative unknowns/prospects rather than proven quality.

You think Wenger is on top of this - knock yourself out. Doesn't look that way to me.
11-08-2011, 01:47 PM
Kano

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Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping

I'm not over-influenced by the media, my friend. I am influenced by what we have all seen with our own eyes - not just this Summer, but for years. Eschewing experience/pedigree for cheaper priced alternatives; refusing to strengthen when clearly we need it; losing prospective deals for the sake of relatively small sums of money. Gambling on relative unknowns/prospects rather than proven quality.

You think Wenger is on top of this - knock yourself out. Doesn't look that way to me.

no it looks like the media are having a field day with most of the fans...and winning
11-08-2011, 01:48 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

we do have 4 cb's. there might be an air of negativity but dont try and spin things to fit into your argument.

wenger has said gibbs will be given a first team chance at lb, meaning jenkinson will cover him. TV will also be able to fill in should jenkinson play rb (if sagna gets injured).

that means we have 4 cb's at the mo, and dann coming in as a 5th. simple as that.

as for the cesc fee, a number of sources are saying its £29m or so up front, £5m variables and £5m given by cesc over 5 years. so roughly £30m up front. for nasri we'll get £20m.

that makes 50m.

which is what i said in my original post.

also gervinho will play up front when rvp is injured, with oxo providing competition on the wings. just as he done during pre season.

Well if we can't even agree that Squillaci is not a CB (or fit to play any other position for that matter) we won't likely agree on anything.
11-08-2011, 01:50 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

no it looks like the media are having a field day with most of the fans...and winning

Agreed. The media has somehow managed to put a negative slant on the great things that have been happening at Arsenal over the last 6 years and, indeed, the latest in a great round of transfer activity. And the stupid fans are swallowing it hook, line and sinker.
11-08-2011, 01:51 PM
Kano

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Agreed.

i knew it would happen some day
11-08-2011, 01:57 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

i knew it would happen some day

Mistype, meant to say A Greedy bastard - that Wenger bloke.
11-08-2011, 02:13 PM
fakeyank

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Well if we can't even agree that Squillaci is not a CB (or fit to play any other position for that matter) we won't likely agree on anything.

I'd like to add that he lacks the intelligence of a human being!
11-08-2011, 02:34 PM
Marc Overmars

Shame about Enrique going to Liverpool, would have liked him here. I can only assume Wenger knows something we don't about Gibbs, because all I've seen so far from him is injury after injury and average/nothing to write home about performances.
11-08-2011, 02:43 PM
topgun

Looks like Wenger has fooled everyone again,people thought it was the Barca model he was following when in fact its the Ajax model,and he is well on the way to completing it.
11-08-2011, 02:45 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by topgun

Looks like Wenger has fooled everyone again,people thought it was the Barca model he was following when in fact its the Ajax model,and he is well on the way to completing it.

It's the Poundstretcher model.
11-08-2011, 03:21 PM
Master Splinter

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Originally Posted by LDG

You might say he's a free market fundamentalist :good:

:haha:

FMFs :bow:
11-08-2011, 03:25 PM
GunnerFan4Life

Arsenal have called an early Arsene Wenger press conference at 09:00 tomorrow

Jadson confirms in his Twitter [@jadson_8] that 'hopefully' early next week he will have news about their future

Vermaelen and van Persie will be fit to face Newcastle

El Mundo Deportivo suggesting that Juan Mata will finally complete his move to Arsenal once Cesc Fabregas leaves for Barcelona

Arsenal in talks with Shakhtar Donetsk over availability of Brazilian Jadson http://t.co/hdBCPai

-Twitter
11-08-2011, 03:30 PM
Cripps_orig

Hes even changed the times for the press conferences.

Prefer them at 7pm
11-08-2011, 04:14 PM
Fats

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Originally Posted by GunnerFan4Life

Arsenal have called an early Arsene Wenger press conference at 09:00 tomorrow

Jadson confirms in his Twitter [@jadson_8] that 'hopefully' early next week he will have news about their future

Vermaelen and van Persie will be fit to face Newcastle

El Mundo Deportivo suggesting that Juan Mata will finally complete his move to Arsenal once Cesc Fabregas leaves for Barcelona

Arsenal in talks with Shakhtar Donetsk over availability of Brazilian Jadson http://t.co/hdBCPai

-Twitter

please stop with the useless brazilians now Arsene
11-08-2011, 05:28 PM
Unai Tea

9am press conference to announce the end of the Fabregas trainwreck? Thank fuck if that's the case. The sooner him and that other fecker Nasri leave the better. Obviously if we actually replace them with quality players that would be a cause for hope. Even if they don't, I'll feel better seeing them gone.
11-08-2011, 05:49 PM
Boss

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18.14 German football expert Raphael Honigstein on Twitter: "Wenger in Kicker today: no interest in Mertesacker. 'We have four central defenders, no need for another one'."

:coffee:
11-08-2011, 05:59 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Wigan Athletic star Hugo Rodallega could be on his way to the Emirates this summer with Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger keen on the player.

The Gunners could have their transfer budget boosted with star midfielders Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri likely to be leaving the Emirates before the end of the month.
Manager Arsene Wenger will be looking to use the money to spend on players to strengthen the Gunners' squad ahead of the Premier League campaign.
Colombian striker Rodallega has previously been linked with a move to the Emirates, but the Latics have been able to keep hold of a player who has scored 22 goals in 81 appearances.
Wigan boss Roberto Martinez may have his work cut out for him this summer if Arsenal decide to up their interest and make a bid for the 26-year-old frontman.

http://www.clubcall.com/wigan-athlet...d-1257871.html
11-08-2011, 06:01 PM
Aaron Wilshere

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

http://www.clubcall.com/wigan-athlet...d-1257871.html

Would be a good signing.

Proven premier league player, viable option to/ partner for RVP and would limit Chamakh's game time.
11-08-2011, 06:28 PM
Kano

the brazilian guy might not be such a bad shout

http://www.soccerclips.net/es/videos...ttenham-jadson
11-08-2011, 06:33 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

the brazilian guy might not be such a bad shout

http://www.soccerclips.net/es/videos...ttenham-jadson

Nah rather we got Willem or doglas costa should have got those 2 when we wanted them.

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