how? arsenal could read the papers, put that extra £1 in, see if the clause is real. nothing wrong with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
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how? arsenal could read the papers, put that extra £1 in, see if the clause is real. nothing wrong with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
Read the papers are you serious? :lol:
Do you know how much BS is printed in the papers? Perhaps they bid £40,000,001 on Football Manager as well just to make sure.
Anyway this clause thing is bs. Stupidest clause everQuote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
They wouldn't be screwed, slight exaggeration there. They regularly score over 100 goals so one injury is not going to be a catastrophic for them, if it occurs and assuming they don't sign Bale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
I'm sure Suarez's agents have nothing to do with the leak of information. They're quite happy for him to stay put, and wouldn't whisper a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Grow up Sugar you fuckin barrow boy ****. 1-1 at Newcastle.
yes i do know how much bullshit is printed in the papers, but what im saying is, arsenal could have heard of that clause, added on the £1 to see if its true. if it isnt, oh well, if it is, well done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
The point is, we know the same information as Arsenal (apparently) and we didn't have to be talking to Suarez's agent in order to achieve it. Sugar should shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
If there has been a breach, it's kinda hard to prove.
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Ask him if it's still 1-1 at Newcastle.
More intriguing than us knowing about a player's contract is how the hell did Sugar get so rich from selling shit computers 30yrs ago??
i agree. but i cant see suarez putting a clause in like this that means nothing. there has to be something more to this oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Or his agent told us.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
i dont think even they could spend 160 million (and thats a cheap estimate) in one summer and only make back 30 million. thats in transfer fees alone, add in wages and its even higher. just not going to happen. it will be bale or suarez. not both, and the noises in spain suggest bale not suareazQuote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
It's not a minimum release fee clause that's for sure and if it isn't that then what's the point?Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
I'll ask Suarez when he's at the Emirates
Be careful he doesn't bite your arm off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
heres the mirror reporting the madrid to only pay 25 million for suarez. its from a few days ago.Quote:
Arsene Wenger has gone back with a fresh approach for Luis Suarez, writes John Cross in Hanoi - and Arsenal are ready to test Liverpool's £40million contract clause.
It puts the Gunners firmly in pole position on Suarez, because Real Madrid have insisted they will not pay more than £25m for the striker- which will be nowhere near enough.
Liverpool have already rebuffed Arsenal's opening gambit of £30m plus £5m in add-ons with a strong message that the 26-year-old Uruguayan is not for sale at any price.
But it is understood Suarez's representatives are making encouraging noises to Arsenal, and other potential suitors, suggesting that if a bid of £40m is made then Liverpool will have to sell.
The north Londoners, who believe this will be a big week for their transfer plans, are trying to maintain dialogue with Liverpool - who are starting a Far East pre-season tour of their own - over Suarez and are hopeful a bigger offer will be accepted.
The Anfield giants remain adamant that if a £40m bid is made they do not have to sell but must inform Suarez, who is understood to now be ready to consider a move within the Premier League.
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They read the newspapers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
it will be one for the lawyers. i just cant see a player putting in a 40 million pound clause that just means he is told of a bid. it makes no sense to him, nor to liverpool either. hes told of bid and wants to leave, decides he wants to go the club who bid and liverpool say we want 55 million. nothing happens, just player stays and is pissed off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
Didn't they sign Ronaldo and Alonso and Kaka in the same window ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
They always seem to have the money to spend
More like Sesame Street!
Ffs Zimm!Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
In full agreement with Ollie here.
Suarez ain't coming dude, but I do think blowing your entire budget on one player when the team needs several isn't very clever.
You kept saying we needed a world class striker to replace van Persie. I had this debate with you the other day when I was saying it was better to buy three players last year and you said we needed to get a world class striker in and you would rather watch us have world class players anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
Now you are saying dont get the world class striker get good players instead. You've changed your whole argument
World class players don't all cost 40+ million.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
We do need a goalscorer yes, but there were others around who were much better value than Suarez who also happens to be banned for 6 games.
Signing one player to replace a player we lost last summer isn't going to make a massive difference, we'll be back to where we were with RVP and that is still not good enough. We need 3-4 world class players, they don't have to cost 40 million.
Why do you think it's our whole budget?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
Arsenal spending £40m on a player is very hard to believe so it's not out of this world to think we'd buy other players as well.
we have 30 mil left and sanogoQuote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
thats the exact opposite of what you were arguing the other day :lol: goalposts firmly shifted,Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
we need a world class striker. rooney, surarez and higuain seem to be the only ones we could sign this summer. higuain hasnt happened for whatever reason but by all accounts was going to cost 35 million after madrid dicked around. (id much rather sign higuain this sumemr then any other striker as well) so its between rooney and suarez. i guess you go for suarez really. hes a better player.
these days though world class players mostly go for 25 million. so 3-4 would cost between 75-100 million anyway. i also wonder with suarez, how much of it is a statement too. we signed cazorla last year who is a very very good player, but because he was only 12 million ( i know malaga had money troubles but i doubt there would have much more excitment if we got him for 20) there wasnt much excitment. you sign a suarez, rooney etc people sit up and take notice.
40 million plus wages (those are all factored in), all in we're talking 75 million plus on one player. Based on that I can't see us spending any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
bernard is coming homeQuote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
No it really isn't, we need world class and a top striker would be great, but not as a single signing...the squad is threadbare as it is. If we signed Suarez and noone else I don't see how we would suddenly become a great team, we had RVP (who I rate higher than Suarez) and never came close to challenging, in fact he carried us in his last season. What we need is a few quality players around the pitch, not one sole big name signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Cazorla is excellent and does make a difference, there was little excitement because he wasn't high profile really. There's also a big difference between 25 million and 40 million, as I said if we we're going to pay 40 million for Suarez why not go all out and get a superstar like Neymar for 8 million more who is much more lucrative marketing wise.
Nothing about this Suarez thing makes sense, from the amount bid, to the fact he's banned, to the fact he wants to go abroad on top of everything else. That is why I'm convinced this will never happen and will in fact just hinder our chances of strenghtening the team in the end.
bernard will most probably sign, and i can see us getting in another midfielder and defender in, wenger isn't stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
the squad van persie carried was imo weaker then the one we have now, so signing suarez makes us stronger then the team with van persie and yes i do agree van persie is the best striker , but suarez as a player is second best striker in the premiership IMO. and also van persie only gave us one fully fit season, so thats also why we might not have challanged as much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
in terms of the squad, with van persie. the forward line was him, theo, chamkh, bentner. assuming we get suarez, its him, giroud, podolski, theo. thats much better.
in midfield, we've added cazorla. jack and ramsey have devolped more, ox too. rosicky looks brilliant everytime he plays, arteta is fantastic too. add in bernard instead of gervinho (if that happens) again we look stronger. also, we can spend on midfield, i htink we should. but i wonder if we are waiting for fabregas, thats 25 million pound deal if united get a bid accepted. now i know you will say why come here, we dont win trophies, but it seems suarez is interested in joining us, and he won a trophy with liverpool. also you have fellani buy out clause for 22 (?) million. we can get both suarez and a midfielder. i think we would challenge then
defence. well its the same defence really but after last season not much to be worried about compared to other areas. it was fantastic last year. opta put this stat out yesterday, only two teams won every game they took the lead in last season. one of them was us. so we can defend leads, its getting leads that are the problem. focus money on attack then.
using your neymar point, hes completely unproven in the league. so suarez is a better shout.
Your forgetting the millions of wages we've saved on getting rid of deadwood, can't discount that as well. Wasn't that £20m or so a year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
Yeah I have a sneaky feeling they won't count that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by server too busy!
Apparently we are talking to Suarez now
What are we saying? Have we asked him what this 40 million clause is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
He's on his way!
Hopefully he won't figure out the £200K is per year rather than per week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
They won't sell for less that 50m anyway. They need that amount to buy Andy Carroll back.
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Originally Posted by LDG
40 up front, 5 in add ons, get Suarez to transfer request forgoing five million singing on bonus. Deal =50 million
Dick Law to be replaced by Ollie?