Transfer targets in January

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

He is thick because he wont change his methods even though they have failed for 6 seasons running.

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Thats not thick thats stubborn.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Getting beat by teams with less resources happens and I'm not trying to make out as if they have no right to beat us. That would be going off topic. It's a response to NQ's and Charlie's posts and how they keep raising the Board and transfer dealings as the main source of problem for everything football related.

Wenger goes out and buys playere in the summer that aren't Prem ready - but it's the Board's fault.

We can't defend and the team are mentally weak - it's the Board's fault.

This notion that the problems Wenger faces and the environment he works in is exclusive to Arsenal only is nonsense. Every club has restrictions to work with. It's not just us. A good coach should be able to get the best out of limited players and it doesn't cost a fortune to fix a defence. it takes good coaching and teaching discipline. We could spend millions on the worlds best defenders but if they don't get the correct coaching they will look below average. The arguments about the Board gets pulled out too muh by certain posters and they can't aknowledge the fact that we have a bad coach on our hands. Or his methods are outdated...however you want to spin it, Wenger isn't doing his part well.

He should have the skill to get the best out of his resources. Swansea spent less on transfers then all the teams in the Prem, but they play at a very high level and are tough to beat. That's a coach making the best of what he's got and pushing his coaching skills to the max. We're not doing that or making good use of the £30m - £60m we have to spend in transfer windows. If we were an old clapped out motor, Wenger would have just spent a huge chunk of our budget on spinning rims and windscreen wipers.

He's supposed to be a world class coach and he shouldn't be getting out thought by certain coaches. It can happen now and again, but he gets done over plenty of times. He should know tricks and tactics that these guys haven't even dreamed of. His experience in management should trump theres. We've all seen Top Gear with the reasonably priced car test right? If we had the equivalent in football, where would Wenger rank? We've seen it Top Gear where an F1 driver like Lewis Hamilton pulls in one of the fastest lap times but some other celebrity with the same car and conditions can't come anywhere near that time. If your top class you should be able to get the best out of whatever vehicle your pushing. Wenger seems to drive with the handbrake on - as he puts it. Our team looks average but the manner of our defeats and the mistakes are embarrassing.

Our Board sucks for not slapping Wenger over the head and telling him to sort his shit out, I can't blame them for the nonsense I see on the pitch. Bendtner playing as a right winger? Come on! Every coach has limits to deal with but certain things he should have dealt with by now. That's my view.

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Too right im behind you on this. Wenger is at fault for how we play on the pitch no deny that, however imo when in comes to transfer dealings both board and manager have to step up and share the blame. However the board need to be blamed for alot of off the field stuff.

There is such a mess at this clubthat even if wenger was to go it would be a while before a new manager would win things with us anyways.

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Originally Posted by GB.

In fact, we are stuck with more than many appreciate because we aren't getting rid of the likes of Denilson and Bendtner until their contracts run out.

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Very true, but it's Wenger who lumbered us with losers like Denilson, Chamakh, Bendtner, Squillaci, Djourou on high wages due to his blind faith and cheapness in the transfer market.

We could have spent the money we've wasted on these chumps on getting some very good players, sadly Wenger really has made some bad decisions in particular regarding the pay policy he believes in (similar pay level for most in the squad).

He decided to go down the kids route which initially I guess you could accept (though not to the extreme he took it perhaps), problem is the kind of money he decided to stick them on. If they're good they disappear off as they want to win stuff, if they're rubbish we're lumbered with them and their sky high wages.

I remember a time when seeing a youngster make it into the team was exciting, now it's just frustrating and boring as we've done it way too much.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Thats not thick thats stubborn.

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I'd suggest he lacks common sense as well, some of his decisions are just plain bizarre, decisions noone in their right minds would make. The average fan probably wouldn't make some of the errors he has, simply because it's so glaringly obvious what should be done at times.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

I'd suggest he lacks common sense as well, some of his decisions are just plain bizarre, decisions noone in their right minds would make. The average fan probably wouldn't make some of the errors he has, simply because it's so glaringly obvious what should be done at times.

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Im sure he knows that it goes way beyond that.

It is the wages that are killing us they significantly impact upon the funds available for transfers and impair our ability to get rid of the deadwood.

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Originally Posted by GB.

It is the wages that are killing us they significantly impact upon the funds available for transfers and impair our ability to get rid of the deadwood.

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exactly. too many players happy to collect a wage they don't give a shite about the game. IMO wengers fault is that his ambition for far too long has been top 4 and he has bought players who he thought could get us there.

lets be real the last 4 of the last 6 season the aim was top 4 and we achieved that, hence whywe never spent over the odds and maybe wenger thinks by prolonging that it will help us in the future.

i agree with zimm no point buying kids if you don't play them or loan them out. Theo could have gone back on loan when he 1st arrived would have helped him and us same with AOC

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

exactly. too many players happy to collect a wage they don't give a shite about the game. IMO wengers fault is that his ambition for far too long has been top 4 and he has bought players who he thought could get us there.

lets be real the last 4 of the last 6 season the aim was top 4 and we achieved that, hence whywe never spent over the odds and maybe wenger thinks by prolonging that it will help us in the future.

i agree with zimm no point buying kids if you don't play them or loan them out. Theo could have gone back on loan when he 1st arrived would have helped him and us same with AOC

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That's true, but if you look at some of the players we still have who earn pretty decent money these are players AW signed as kids or on the cheap and then stuck on high salaries, he seems to look at economics when buying a player but not when salary comes into it.

None of the players mentioned were particularly special and none of them deserved the salaries on offer, the way I see it with such ordinary players it's like it or lump it, if they don't like the wages they are offered (reasonable ones) let them go elsewhere, they need to prove themselves before the money comes rolling in. If you give player big money before they've achieved anything is it any surprise when they have no motivation on the pitch?

The lack of hunger IMO is partly down to the fact we never give players an incentive to produce on the pitch, they're already multi-millionaires off the pitch before they've even done anything.....what happened to proving yourself.

Tevez to PSG off apparently.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...report?cc=4716

Sign him up, Arsene :popcorn:

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Originally Posted by Boss

Tevez to PSG off apparently.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...report?cc=4716

Sign him up, Arsene :popcorn:

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:lol: We might sign Tevez, it's not beyond the realms of possibility...not sure how good Diego Tevez is though.