Match Reaction - Dortmund

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Originally Posted by Steve French

No one called it an amazing performance.
There was nothing puzzling.
Bayern were not playing a training match - it was an ECL knockout match.
The sequence of results started following that match and has subsequently continued into this season.
It is a sequence of results (including losses) that has not been bettered by any club in this country during the same timeframe.
You are nowhere to be seen when we win - but its 'happy days are here again' for you when we don't.
Just about every point you have made in this thread has been conjecture based upon whatever it is that goes on inside your head.
You place more weight on conjecture than on facts.

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Really, it must have been to beat the now European Champions if they did turn up and play as you seem to think.

Actually not true, Nial Quinn (the former footballer) I believe said it was a strange match, it's not just me, in fact anyone watching could see that in reality Bayern really didn't perform, after the 1st leg it's almost like they didn't know how to play it, in their heads it was almost like it was already won.

Yes I know, but they didn't play it like it was, there was no intensity in their performance.

Like I said this season and last are totally unrelated, we lost to Villa at the start of the season and that has nothing to do with the form last season.

BS and let me prove it:

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...=2536&page=119

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...=2536&page=119

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...=2536&page=119

There's some posts from me, but as I said earlier and you conveniently ignored, when we win there's no discussion just a succession of posts praising a good results and the players, there's no discussion and it gets tedious once you've posted your view, I don't expect you to understand though as you display such narrowmindedness at times it would be impossible to make you understand an alternative viewpoint.

No it isn't it just that you are so biased against me you can only see one view, the one that exists inside YOUR head.

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Originally Posted by Steve French

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Sagna :bow:

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Originally Posted by Özim

Really, it must have been to beat the now European Champions if they did turn up and play as you seem to think.

Actually not true, Nial Quinn (the former footballer) I believe said it was a strange match, it's not just me, in fact anyone watching could see that in reality Bayern really didn't perform, after the 1st leg it's almost like they didn't know how to play it, in their heads it was almost like it was already won.

Yes I know, but they didn't play it like it was, there was no intensity in their performance.

Like I said this season and last are totally unrelated, we lost to Villa at the start of the season and that has nothing to do with the form last season.

BS and let me prove it:

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...=2536&page=119

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...=2536&page=119

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...=2536&page=119

There's some posts from me, but as I said earlier and you conveniently ignored, when we win there's no discussion just a succession of posts praising a good results and the players, there's no discussion and it gets tedious once you've posted your view.

No it isn't it just that you are so biased against me you can only see one view, the one that exists inside YOUR head.

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I don't know why you need me to explain what a sequence of results means - but here goes - it includes ALL results, including losses. Since that game, the sequence (including losses) has been amongst the best sequences we have enjoyed for years, and no English club has matched our run over the same period.

I'm presenting facts - you know, things that actually happened. You are dealing in conjecture and treating that as fact.

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Originally Posted by Steve French

I don't know why you need me to explain what a sequence of results means - but here goes - it includes ALL results, including losses. Since that game, the sequence (including losses) has been amongst the best sequences we have enjoyed for years, and no English club has matched our run over the same period.

I'm presenting facts - you know, things that actually happened you are dealing in conjecture and treating that as fact.

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Let me give you another fact then, those results have actually won us nothing.

Here's another too, last seasons games don't count for anything this season.

There are some facts.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Let me give you another fact then, those results have actually won us nothing.

Here's another too, last seasons games don't count for anything this season.

There are some facts.

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They are facts that bear no relation to the point being discussed.

Another fact is that you have no peers at doing just that.

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Originally Posted by Steve French

They are facts that bear no relation to the point being discussed.

Another fact is that you have no peers at doing just that.

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They completely do, you're talking about a run of results over two different seasons, I'm effectively pointing out two seasons aren't related and that the run is pretty meaningless in football terms because it's neither brought us success and last season's games won't bring us success this season.

I'd rather win a trophy than see a sequence of good results running from the tail end of one season to the beginning of another.

You can ignore this if it suits you though.

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Originally Posted by Özim

They completely do, you're talking about a run of results over two different seasons, I'm effectively pointing out two seasons aren't related and that the run is pretty meaningless in football terms because it's neither brought us success and last season's games won't bring us success this season.

I'd rather win a trophy than see a sequence of good results running from the tail end of one season to the beginning of another.

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No one anywhere claimed last seaons results played any part in success this season - they are part of a sequence of results. But as you cannot defend your stance over the Bayern game, you've moved on to your classic tactic of employing a straw man argument.

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Originally Posted by Steve French

No one anywhere claimed last seaons results played any part in success this season - they are part of a sequence of results. But as you cannot defend your stance over the Bayern game, you've moved on to your classic tactic of employing a straw man argument.

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There's nothing to defend, we won and went out, so we lost the tie which is played over two games (even thought Bayern didn't show up in the 2nd leg).

Can't be clearer than that really, the win was meaningless in every sense.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Let me give you another fact then, those results have actually won us nothing.

Here's another too, last seasons games don't count for anything .

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I beg to disagree.

Those results mean we're playing Champions League football this year, rather than on Thursday nights with them cunts down the road.

Shit facts you have.

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Originally Posted by Özim

There's nothing to defend, we won and went out, so we lost the tie which is played over two games (even thought Bayern didn't show up in the 2nd leg).

Can't be clearer than that really, the win was meaningless in every sense.

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Basically what you are saying, is that every win is meaningless, unless the end result is a trophy.

I seriously don't understand why you even bother watching football at all.

It would be better for all concerned if you didn't tbf.