Match reaction v Bayern

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Originally Posted by Letters

No we don't. We've had 2 freak games where we've got a pasting, the rest of the games - including games against the better teams - we've been solid.

How many more freak games do you need, if Suarez & Sturridge had finshed as per usual last Sunday we would have conceeded another 5 or 6. How many times have City or Chelsea conceeded 5 or 6 this year. Against fast attacking teams we are there for the taking, Merts cannot run, poor defensive full backs, too much pressure on Kos.

We're a point off the top of the table, got through a tricky CL group and we're in the FA Cup quarter finals. Not sure we should be 'berating' anyone right now.

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Where would be with a few more quality players that we have had both the time & the money to find - the fact that we have too many similar players in midfield & not one decent striker will show over the season, lets see where we are at the end of March. I would suggest we will be 5th.
We threw away the lead in that group with disaster tactics in Napoli exactly as we have done in previous years to be then matched against a team we need not have played at this part of the season - Wenger knew our league games at this time & in March, surely winning our group to get a weaker team would have helped with squad rotation.
We are in the qtr finals thanks to Daniel Sturridge not finshing us off inside 10 mins. This would have been for the 2nd time in a week which should worry the life out of us as to our defensive qualities against pace & whatever they were working on that week in training. You can't fight pace with Merts, he's fine to have against the Adebayor's. Crouch's & Lambert's of the league but not against Aguero/Negrada or Suarez/Sturridge.

Every time we get blasted by a superior team it gets conveniently labelled a freak result. How many of the top teams in Europe get as many freak results per season as us. So beating Liverpool where all of our fans had soiled underpants from the 75th min till FT now showed that we are up there.
We don't strategise. Every former player has said it Wenger just sends his boys out to play their game, irrespective of the opposition. If it was Wenger yesterday, would he have taken Dante off at HT knowing the risks, Nah, sure as clockwork, there would be no changes until the 65th or 70th min.
In every game there will be an excuse to blame the refs, the lino, Eileen drury, the planets alignments, etc. We salve our bruised spirits with these excuses but in reality. You are either good enough or lucky enough to win these great prizes. Wenger is neither.

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Originally Posted by Dein-machine

Doesn't matter what year, we are nowhere near being 1 player away + Walcott & Ramsey. We have defensive issues when we come up agianst the better teams, we dont have quality left back or left mid & no striker - THIS IS NOW, NOT NEXT YEAR.
As you agree that we are missing a world class striker who should we be berating after 2 full transfer windows & £140 million in the bank?

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Sagna, Kos and Merts were outstanding last night. It would have been a solid unit had Gibbs not given way to the sub-standard Monreal, the latter being clueless at this level. Both keepers are great too. Nothing wrong with our defence that a decent offer to Sagna and some cash on the table for an injury free quality left back won't solve.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Robben was brilliant yesterday, a handful for anyone, but Monreal struggled as well.

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Back to your WUM ways. Robben is a technically gifted player but a despicable cheat. He's in the same bracket as Rooney and Suarez in terms of his overwhelming flaws. To praise his performance is like praising a rapist for bringing flowers. Hopefully something bad happens to him, preferably when we next meet him on the pitch and that matter concerning Sagna can be properly addressed.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Sagna, Kos and Merts were outstanding last night. It would have been a solid unit had Gibbs not given way to the sub-standard Monreal, the latter being clueless at this level. Both keepers are great too. Nothing wrong with our defence that a decent offer to Sagna and some cash on the table for an injury free quality left back won't solve.

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Wasn't posting about last night NQ, it was general. We have been hammered twice by the better teams & got away with another one last week. We are not good defensively against quick attacking sides. Bayern are not this, they played with Mandukic uptop who is not fast but rely on good wide players & attacking midfielders. Basically they are a better version of us when we play with Giroud. The reality is that Merts can run, our full backs are poor defensively & therefore too much pressure on Kos. We get away with this against the poorer teams because most of them are defending, not attacking us at pace.

Erm, wait a minute. We DIDN'T get blasted by a superior team. We were the superior team in the first 35 minutes of that match. Having to play more than a half down to 10 is not exactly a standard arrangement. It should have been Bayern down to 10 of course, not us. But the ref wasn't competent or professional enough to apply the rules.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Back to your WUM ways. Robben is a technically gifted player but a despicable cheat. He's in the same bracket as Rooney and Suarez in terms of his overwhelming flaws. To praise his performance is like praising a rapist for bringing flowers. Hopefully something bad happens to him, preferably when we next meet him on the pitch and that matter concerning Sagna can be properly addressed.

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Robben, Suarez, Rooney or Sanogo, Bendnter, Giroud - Give me despicable cheats with overwhelming flaws any day of the week.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Every time we get blasted by a superior team it gets conveniently labelled a freak result. How many of the top teams in Europe get as many freak results per season as us. So beating Liverpool where all of our fans had soiled underpants from the 75th min till FT now showed that we are up there.
We don't strategise. Every former player has said it Wenger just sends his boys out to play their game, irrespective of the opposition. If it was Wenger yesterday, would he have taken Dante off at HT knowing the risks, Nah, sure as clockwork, there would be no changes until the 65th or 70th min.
In every game there will be an excuse to blame the refs, the lino, Eileen drury, the planets alignments, etc. We salve our bruised spirits with these excuses but in reality. You are either good enough or lucky enough to win these great prizes. Wenger is neither.

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Originally Posted by Dein-machine

Robben, Suarez, Rooney or Sanogo, Bendnter, Giroud - Give me despicable cheats with overwhelming flaws any day of the week.

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Well there you are. For an Arsenal fan to favour Rooney over Giroud so you can see that shiny silver despite that dive on match 50 - that say a a lot.
Bendtner and Robben I'll give you - both mercenaries, neither desirable.
And remember the despicable Pires, who dived once and we never heard the last of it? Or the renowned cheat Henry, who handballed it? Yet for the shiny silver we'll applaud the likes of Suarez who cheats in EVERY match.

All for the shiny silver.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

To praise his performance is like praising a rapist for bringing flowers.

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:haha:

Brilliant