Jeez, let's hope we don't lose to Everton or people will want him dead. I'll tell you who has collapsed - half the fans.
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Jeez, let's hope we don't lose to Everton or people will want him dead. I'll tell you who has collapsed - half the fans.
Really worried for Wenger over the coming run we have. Any big defeats and he's mince meat, I can hear the knives being sharpened as we speak :threaten: ...fans and hacks alikeQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The decision not to spend in January was utterly utterly ridiculous and it took him back to the Nutty Professor days.
But this season has been such an improvement. Don't know what to think anymore.
Unfortunately everything good he did for us footballistically, was in the past... and I am not talking recent past. More like a decade..Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
My goodwill for what he did Before Christ ran out in 2009 tbh... more and more people are coming to their senses that he is not the right man to lead us forward.
he needs to double his security
to be fair the only way to get an accurate report on what wenger says is the videos of the interviews, all media tends to twist his words....don't get me wrong they do this with every manager, they read between the lines to promote something essentially mundane as a subject of interest.
A lot of what we assume about Wenger's decision making is purely that assumption, we assumed before today that Arsenal and Wenger made clowns of themselves over their approach for Luis Suarez. When in fact what transpired is that the club met the minimum release fee clause and were no way disrespectful to Liverpool football club and it turns out that they were disrespectful to us.
I think a lot of back seat drivers tend to think they know better than him about who he should sign and you look in retrospect about a lot of the players the media recommends to Wenger and the player's career is in the toilet.
A lot of my criticism of Wenger comes from being hot headed, i was so frustrated and exasperated with what had happened at Stoke.....because i believed the difference between getting something and defeat was starting with Arteta instead of Flamini and not playing Ox from the beginning. But i think from a period of reflection, in the cold light of day i don't think he's as stupid or oblivious as people seem to think he is.....the media and to extent we like to fill in the blanks with this man because he's not an open individual.
Nine years without a trophy is too long,and a lot of the responsibility for this falls on Wenger's shoulders, and i think the main reason we are frustrated with the man is because few or no other managers would have consistently kept us in the top four in the way he has done and if he is capable of that, why seemingly is he incapable of even some small silverware.
I honestly believe even if we'd won the odd fa cup or league cup between 2005 and today i don't think there would be as much unrest as there is amongst the fans.
Definitely not.
Only situation in which I would support the move is if only we had someone better than him lined up already to replace him.
What exactly do you mean, when you say better than him? Is it based on tactics? Is it better football? Is it a knack of being a champion in the transfer market? Is it about being a manager who can fire up his squad for big games? If those are some of the criteria in saying 'better than him', then there are quite a few who are better than him.
I feel that quite a few are scared of change, just because they are scared of change. At this point, I'd take a promising young manager over Wenger any day! We are stagnant year after year... every season has the exact same script- either we are close to the leaders and fold around March/April OR we are fighting to seal 4th place. Either way, what we are getting is 4th place. What is happening now has been predicted by the 'realists' back in October/November!!
Example of conversation by people who want Wenger to stay or are scared for him to leave, at different points of the season:
"I didnt know the transfer window ended in July. Give him till the end of the window before we judge him" (At a time when our transfers should be almost wrapped up and we are still in waiting period)
"We are 2 points behind Chelsea (insert any other team name) and we do not have billions to spend" (when we lose to a big team... again!)
"We are still in the CL 2nd round, in the FA cup and are just 3 points behind the leaders.. if you'd have given this to me at the start of the season, I'd have bitten your hand off" (Most likely after a pummeling in the 2nd round of CL, followed by a draw in a must win game or by a massacre by another team i.e. 8-2, 6-3, 5-1)
"Give him till the end of the season before we judge him" (We are out of the PL race and CL but still in with a shout with the FA Cup)
"Next season, our players will have gained one more year experience. Ozil will become a monster and coupled by the striker, defender that we are going to sign, we will be up there with the best. Lets see how AW does in the transfer window. (After another 4th place trophy finish)
Go back to the beginning and start this shit charade again... thats the life of a gooner!
Can't believe so many people still want him here having witnessed what we have in the last 9 years, losing pretty much every big game that really mattered. How people still believe in this man after so long I'll never know, seems he can go on forever settling for 4th place without ever losing their support.
You'll never know if they are better until you give them a chance, Wenger was a nobody when he arrived after all. If he stays on all we have to look forward to is our annual battle for 4th place, I don't see the enjoyment myself, but each to their own I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico