Liverpool have the best fixture run really, all the big games are at home for them. And when you have the strikers they do, they can win a game against anyone.
But for us, do decent enough in the next 2 and who knows ?
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Liverpool have the best fixture run really, all the big games are at home for them. And when you have the strikers they do, they can win a game against anyone.
But for us, do decent enough in the next 2 and who knows ?
We still have Everton away but I don't think we will have any chance with 2 more defeats.
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I don't know about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Liverpool have their destiny in their own hands and with their strikers scoring for fun and causing all sorts of problems, i can see them winning the league.
I think we need to more than avoid defeat, I think we need to win both, we are chasing not leading.Quote:
Originally Posted by WMUG
Of course anything can happen and my comments regarding Liverpool were more of a passing thought than a statement. My thoughts were aired given that a lot of comments are related to us having to beat Chelsea and City to assume top spot when in fact we have the small matter of Liverpool too. Liverpool are clearly the form team in the league and results wise are pretty much wiping the floor with everybody.
I wouldn't include Spurs or Utd. They are big games (seriously, how did we not beat Utd this year? :doh:), but neither are title rivals and those are the games I'm talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by WMUG
In 97/98 that moment we won at Old Trafford, that was when I believed we could do it. If you can go to your title rivals and beat them in their back yard it shows you've got what it takes.
We beat Liverpool at home of course but we got a right thumping up there. City walloped us too although I thought we played pretty well that day. Chelsea at home was a pretty limp draw (although we'd have won if we had a real top class striker). If we can get a result at Stamford Bridge and beat City at our place we'll have a real chance IMO.
Fair enough, but a lot of teams have been the form team in the league this season. The team everyone thinks will win it has changed so many times this season, and it's got enough time to change another 2 or 3 times before the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
The reason I'm talking about the two scum clubs is because they're the ones we can do something about. We could still win all our games this season and have Liverpool finish above us because we don't play them again this season, but our season hinges massively on how we can do against City and Chelsea. Liverpool aren't really worth worrying about.
We aren't winning at the Bridge, nobody wins there, but we don't really need to to finish above Chelsea, given our game in hand. City at home is one we do need to win to have it in our own hands, and you might argue that that's what it takes to be a title contender, but empirically, it isn't. We can still be in contention without beating them, they've been dropping points where you wouldn't expect them to recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Of course, it goes without saying that we'd be in a much better position if we beat them – which I reckon we can, we're pretty good at nabbing a goal and defending for our lives this season – but I don't think it spells an end to our challenge if we get 2 points. Losing either would be awful, sure, but draw both and we could still see the least champion like champions ever to win the league.
Not only do we need to beat both Chelsea and City, we need to find some sort of form, because we are dire at the moment, and have been for some time (bar 25 mins against Bayern).
Agree we won't win on Saturday, if we get a draw then we're still in the race. I do feel we need to beat City though if we're going to have a chance.
We were good against Everton too.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
I 'spose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I'm not trying to do us down, as we have put in an immense amount of effort, and defended really well.
We just don't seem to be playing very well since, well, before Christmas really. We've laboured through quite a few games. Our passing has been poor, and we can't seem to put even the most rubbish of sides to the sword in full on beast mode.
Maybe, but I think it's more important not to lose at the Bridge than it is to beat City. Would still love it if we beat them, love it, obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I'm sticking to quietly optimistic...
If we are still in the running after the Everton game, then I quite fancy our chances.
Win our next three games and i think that will make us favourites. Chelsea have a pretty straight forward run in with the exception of away at Liverpool end of April. City have a tough run of games but have the best squad. Liverpool are the most on form team but still have a few tough games and could lose to someone sloppy.
Win and draw, draw and win or win and win in the next 2 games! That'll make me believe that we are there to challenge for the title.
9 wins takes us up to 89 points.
That was Utd's tally last season and City's the year before.
If City win all their games they'll get to 93 but they'll undoubtedly drop points + we can take points off them when they visit the Emirates.
To put it in simple terms, we've got to win all our games to win the title. 89 will do it. But can we do it?
I personally don't think we'll do it, but I'm still pretty pleased with what I've seen from us this year - there's a very real chance of a trophy in the FA Cup, we've kept up with our rivals in the title race, leading the way for longer than any other team in the league along the way, and we've managed to do it without a decent striker and with a comparatively thin squad (when you look at the likes of Chelsea and City, that is)?! That's pretty incredible, even if you blame the club and the manager for why we currently lack that striker and have a thin squad. If we end the season within 3-5 points of the eventual winners, win the FA Cup, and if players like Ramsey and Oxlade-Chamberlain continue to surprise us, then I think we can call that good progress, and look forward to the summer / next season...Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
Our bottling against the mancs and Stoke simply means there is no room for a point to be dropped if we're to win this thing.
Bottling :lol:
Sheesh! Sometimes you just don't win. Not every game where we fail to win is us bottling it.
It's a really tall order to expect us to win our remaining 9 matches IMO, given that Mourinho has never lost at Stamford Bridge and Wenger's record against him almost an impossibility.
Can't excuse our failure to beat Man U and to only get 1 point out of 6 against, that was truly terrible given the state they are in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
lol just lol at people who think we'll win it
Lol just lol at you for thinking anyone said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I didn't think that about anyone specifically, I was just thinking out loud.
its also a tall order to expect the other top 3 sides to win their last 9 matches too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
its Arsene's 1000th game on saturday, no better way to celebrate then by beating that cunt especially as he wants what Arsene has. a legacy. people will talk about Arsene in years to come, he changed football for the better, but when mourinho goes, no one will talk about him
I presume you're excusing Chelsea's failure to beat Villa though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
We definitely should have beaten Utd this year but bad results will always happen to every club in every season.
You weren't thinking or doing it out loud tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Lol, just lol, at people who don't understand how the internet works.
I don't think we will win the league, but we really should win the cup. we could finish fourth but be 3/4 points off the top and that would be an exceptional season. With the new money coming in this summer, with pretty much the whole team signed up to new long term deals this club is in incredible shape. Largely thanks to one man, who i don't think will renew now, but we really should have hope, and really believe for next season. I don't think any of the other clubs around us are in better shape.
Metaphorically I was tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Right now we're the only club who can do the double. So let's go and do that.
It was a really bad result, ij a sense though I guess players`can lack focus with games like that, thgy tend to be more focussed when they play the big teams as theygre bigger games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Given our record against Man
It's not in our hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oiall_Quinn
He`never said it was.
He said let's go and do that though, we can't since it's not in our hands, we can only hope we can.
You can only go and do something if you control$your own destiny.
If being deliberately obtuse rocks your world, keep on keeping on.
It's not being obtuse, just stating facts.
No, you're being mbtuse. We are the only team that can win the do}ble. We won't. But we are the only team`that can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I know where this is going, so I'll nust quit now.
Forever? :praq:
I think if we were to win at Stamford Bridge it'd be the 97/98 moment for this team - I reckon we would go on to win it after that.