Fabregas goes to Barca for £35million

£30m + up to £5m add-ons. Wow, we sure showed them with our two months of stone-walling, didn't we. Well played Arsene and Ivan - that was well worth the summer of uncertainty: a deal that's £5m less than Carroll's up front fee, despite the pound being pretty much even-steven against the euro, for one of the top five players in the world.

What a message to send to the vultures. The club I support is a complete fucking joke.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Arsene Wenger is an absolute prick. What a liar. He wasn't fooling anyone with his idiotic poker face. He kept denying the Cesc transfer all through the weekend when the story broke. Cesc wasn't match fit....fuck out of here. Lied to the press and fans. This guy can't be trusted. Total liar!

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If people were silly to believe no one was leaving, then more fool them. The only person AW lied to was himself tbh. Did you really believe cesc was not match fit, come on fella i had you down as much smarter then that. I agree Wenger needs to be honest from now all his credibilty is going fast if not gone.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

It's the players that wanted to leave though, he couldn't convince them to stay due to his inability to deliver success at the end of the day.

Bendtner, Cesc, Denilson, Clichy, Nasri they all wanted to leave (in some cases it's great)...doesn't say much for team spirit of the manager's ability to keep players happy.

They're not the first lot either.

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I thought you hated Denilson and Bendter both are not really loses but the fact they wanted to leave showed us something at the club is not right. End of the day if those players were silly enough to think they'd come to Arsenal and win trophies more fool them.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

No, It doesn't look like we'll be signing anyone else. And maybe you're right, maybe the guy is so detached from the fans now and so secure in the knowledge the board will support him he doesn't mind laughing and joking about our ongoing decline. Fact is the whole operation at Arsenal is like MI6, everything's a fucking secret. If the fans want to know, fuck 'em. Tell then to be patient and then raise the ticket prices. This Kroenke bloke, what a cunt he is. Can't even be bothered to give a ten second overview of his intentions. Ignorant shit.

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You should have watched Sunday Supplement. They spoke about this. Wenger is in total denial and seems to think the media are behind the fans public outcry because of the negative stories. What planet is he on. As if the fans can't draw their own conclusions without the press. When journalist flipped it and said fans were booing and negative during games, he said that it was just a small section and they don't represent all Arsensl fans. Total denial.

If he's planning to hightail it at the end of the season, it's because he knows the jig is up. We've just been monorailed!

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Originally Posted by Joker

I hope the new era of youngsters are of a higher standard than the last, and the signs are good tbh. However, it is so clear we CANNOT rely on youngsters if we want to win the league, and no matter how good Wilshere is, and how good Miyachi, Oxlade, etc can be, we must supplement the squad with experienced quality so that an unnecessarily heavy burden is not placed on their young shoulders

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Yep, couldn't agree more really.

Wenger is deluded if he thinks the fans' discontent is manufactured by the media. The anger at the club is very real and has grassroots support.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

I thought you hated Denilson and Bendter both are not really loses but the fact they wanted to leave showed us something at the club is not right. End of the day if those players were silly enough to think they'd come to Arsenal and win trophies more fool them.

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I did that's why I said great in some cases, my point is that everyone seems to want to leave...despite Wenger preaching about team spirit.

The guy is absolutely clueless, he can't see what's going on under his nose which is very unfortunate for us. Noone believes in his policy and yet he won't change...it's mystifying.

Like I said we can't expect the better players to stick around to settle for 4th place every season, I mean what does that actually mean at the end of your career.....8 4th places in the league.....great thing to tell your kids and grand kids!

before the end of last season i said to myself that players like cesc deserve better than this club and i wouldn't mind if he moved on, but now the summer has gone and the deal has been done - his behaviour has made me lower my opinion of the guy so much. glad his gone and good riddance...

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

In a sense losing Cesc gives us the chance to go back to basics and play the counter attacking game we we once masters of.

Having said that if anything has been proved in the last 5-6 years, it's that without Cesc we;ve created barely anything and look devoid of ideas most of the time.

I've seen many games when he hasn't played where we counter have scored a goal even if we'd been playing till Christmas. It's worrying IMO, we've got no quality players in when we need them the most.

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Its more to not having a creative player then we look flat, if we can get one then we'd be fine you reckon. I really think Nasri is that man and AW needs to do all the dick sucking he can or whatever it takes to to get him to sign a new deal

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Its more to not having a creative player then we look flat, if we can get one then we'd be fine you reckon. I really think Nasri is that man and AW needs to do all the dick sucking he can or whatever it takes to to get him to sign a new deal

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Maybe so but it's worrying that we rely so heavily on one player. Moreover we've yet to sign a creative player, at the moment we don't know if we will or not.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Its more to not having a creative player then we look flat, if we can get one then we'd be fine you reckon. I really think Nasri is that man and AW needs to do all the dick sucking he can or whatever it takes to to get him to sign a new deal

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Nasri will go on deadline day.