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15-12-2012, 12:03 PM
Power n Glory

Again, that's not the same as saying 'he's the right man for the job'. He says he needs help from others which is very different to saying he's the right man to turn things around. Very few want Wenger's reign to end on this sad note and it's not just about Wenger either. If he's sacked, we need to be sure the Board have the right plan and man lined up for the job. Wright has said again that he's not sure he should go because nothing is clear cut. I can understand that view because there are no real Arsenal people or football people in general at the top leading the club.
15-12-2012, 12:05 PM
KSE Comedy Club

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Originally Posted by Olivier's xmas twist

Read it again. He said i don't want him sacked.

Thing is, wright must know that wenger will never bring anyone in that he will listen to, so if you read between the lines, he wants him sacked :good:
15-12-2012, 12:07 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Again, that's not the same as saying 'he's the right man for the job'. He says he needs help from others which is very different to saying he's the right man to turn things around. Very few want Wenger's reign to end on this sad note and it's not just about Wenger either. If he's sacked, we need to be sure the Board have the right plan and man lined up for the job. Wright has said again that he's not sure he should go because nothing is clear cut. I can understand that view because there are no real Arsenal people or football people in general at the top leading the club.

Good points actually.

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Thing is, wright must know that wenger will never bring anyone in that he will listen to, so if you read between the lines, he wants him sacked :good:

:good:
15-12-2012, 12:16 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Thing is, wright must know that wenger will never bring anyone in that he will listen to, so if you read between the lines, he wants him sacked :good:

He doesn't know that for certain and neither does anyone here. He worke well with Dein, things are looking better between him and Gazidis...he listened regarding the pre season tour and we'll see what happens with him and Bould.

Wright usually tells it how it is and he's playing it subtle. Sacking Wenger is risky and not straight forward. Stan knows nothing of football, PHW is still recovering and Gazidis isn't really a football guy. He's more corporate. I want Wenger out but these guys need to have a long term plan and identify the right candidates before they can make a decision. I hope the wheel is in motion as we speak because Wenger's reign is coming to an end.
15-12-2012, 12:17 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas

I don't think those clubs have got the problem to the same extent as we have (in addition City and Chelsea can afford it), if you look at the rubbish we have, I mean the likes of Chamakh, Squillaci, Denilson, Bendtner, Gervinho, Ramsey, Fabianski, Djourou, Santos, Park (some are on loan but still on our wage bill) and add to that the crocks in the form of Gibbs, Diaby, Rosicky that's an awful lot of players and an awful lot of money wasted, none of the other clubs mentioned have anywhere near as many as us...and this is crippling for us.

You can add to that the error prone Koscielny, the cavalier Vermaelen who's defending is naive at best (do we throw Frimpong into this?) and you can start to see the problem.

The salaries are also all based around Wengers idea that everyone should be on similar amounts to avoid an squad discontent, which neither works nor has proved a wise move.

He was guilty of the bung yes, but people make mistakes and as long as they learn from them they deserve a 2nd chance (some would argue someone who has been there and learnt from his mistakes is the perfect person to give advice on the subject). Perhaps his time was up when it all ended, but look at his achievements, much of the time we were unfancied for success and upset the odds, the drinking culture was not one of Graham's flaws but an issue which was deeply ingrained in English culture (and to some extent remains to be today outside sport). In those days we never really seemed to have money and the money certainly wasn't in the game to the same extent, we accepted we couldn't spend but at least we showed signs of heart and desire on the pitch from time to time, no passioneless, soul less football with no real direction.

Squillaci,Fabianski, Arshavin will alway be gone in the summer as their contracts expire. Chamakh and Santos will hopefull be sold in Jan, so our Wage bill should be down a bit come summer. Think JoDo will be on his way too.
15-12-2012, 12:19 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Olivier's xmas twist

Squillaci,Fabianski, Arshavin will alway be gone in the summer as their contracts expire. Chamakh and Santos will hopefull be sold in Jan, so our Wage bill should be down a bit come summer. Think JoDo will be on his way too.

Wenger reckons Chamakh was a great signing so don't be so sure :lol:

As for the others, it's speculation to be honest, you never know what Wenger will do, more often than not we get rid of the players we don't want to get rid of and hold on to those we think we should have got rid of.
15-12-2012, 12:23 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas

Wenger reckons Chamakh was a great signing so don't be so sure :lol:

As for the others, it's speculation to be honest, you never know what Wenger will do, more often than not we get rid of the players we don't want to get rid of and hold on to those we think we should have got rid of.

Says that but has not played him, the club make a profit selling him, so if they get money it will happen. Can't see those out of contract staying. They all know they are wanted so its most likely they wil move on.

Not sure about the Denilson's and Bendtner;s though. Though the latter has said he wants out, so i can see him on his way. And Denilson has said he don't want to be here. Guess it depends on São Paulo if they want to keep him.
15-12-2012, 02:30 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Again, that was Nigel Winterburn not Ian Wright.

Slightly worried Charlie cant tell the difference between Wright and Winterburn
15-12-2012, 02:46 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Cripps

Slightly worried Charlie cant tell the difference between Wright and Winterburn

:lol:
15-12-2012, 04:17 PM
Cripps_orig

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Ray Parlour has warned Arsene Wenger he must be busy in the January transfer window to rescue Arsenal’s season.
The Gunners are 15 points behind Premier League leaders Manchester United and crashed out of the Capital One Cup on Tuesday night after a humiliating defeat at League Two minnows Bradford.
And Parlour fears Arsenal will continue to struggle unless Wenger gets rid of the ‘dead wood’ next month and freshens up his squad.
“It’s going to be so important this January window,” the former Gunners star said, speaking to the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast.
“The performance the other night wasn’t good enough. You go to a place like Bradford and you have got to be on your game. Every single player has got to go out there like they are playing Manchester United.
“He needs to get the dead wood out, he needs to get rid of people that don’t want to be there. The likes of Marouane Chamakh and Andrey Arshavin.
“They have got so many players who are on about seventy-five thousand pounds a week. They need to get them out. Sometimes they bring players down if their attitudes are not right in training.
"Arsene Wenger has to look at his players and really up the quality because he has lost some unbelievable players in the last few years.”

Read more: http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-ne...#ixzz2F8cJYSpO

More importantly than that, we need to get rid of the manager

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