Match Reaction - 0-2 chelski

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Even I gave up blaming the ref. It's true, certain red - but then again Kos could have gone too. And Welbeck. And Flamini certainly should have got a red for that deliberate elbow. Don't think we can complain about the red too much other than to say it happened first so could have given us an advantage. But to think the chavs couldn't have pulled together 10 men and held out for a 0-0 or still hit us on the break is wishful thinking. We would have still done the tippy tappy thing up against a 10 man brick wall.

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Flamini and Wellbeck actions were frustrations to referee's attitude . They certainly deserved red cards . But before that we should have had a penalty and Cahill , Oscar and Ivanovic should have been off pitch long ago .

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Originally Posted by selassie

The ref was dodgy but he wasnt pro Chelsea, he made bad calls for both teams.

Yesterdays loss was no surprise, we were not unlucky, we were just beaten by a better team. Maureen sets out his team/gameplan the same everytime he faces us, same old from us, passive possession dominance, 1 shot on target.

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I agree Chelsea was the better team . But knowing that conceding the first goal in a big game is a blow, a refereeing mistake which prevent you from coming back to a game is a confidence killer for the players .
Had the referee been a bit fair we could have got at least a draw .

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Lost the game because of refereeing mistakes! :lol:

We have a team full of experience now, if they are still naive then it is down to the manager who displays little or no match savvy himself.

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Any referee action can have a big impact on a game .
Imagine if he didn't give Chelsea their deserved penalty on Hasard and he mistook it for a simulation and gave hasard a yellow card instead . Do you think Chelsea attitude and confidence would have been the same ? I doubt it very much .

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Originally Posted by Alpha

I agree Chelsea was the better team . But knowing that conceding the first goal in a big game is a blow, a refereeing mistake which prevent you from coming back to a game is a confidence killer for the players .
Had the referee been a bit fair we could have got at least a draw .

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Alpha, Maybe we saw different things yesterday but as already pointed out by NQ we were lucky to have 11 men on the field after Kos gave away the penalty, it was actually a red card offence as he was the last man standing.

We only had 1 shot on target all game, I am not sure how the referee's performance defined that but each to their own I suppose.

My frustration stems from the Summer, we didn't do the business we needed to do and it's clearly evident, not only in the big games but also in many other games this season. The money was there, Wenger didn't buy what we needed....AGAIN.

Basically nothing has changed, I see us going into this season with exactly the same flaws but hoping for a different outcome, in fact I would go as far as to say we have more flaws this season as Wenger has changed the formation of the team and to date we look a weaker side than we did last season.

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Fuck off Mesut

Before Benny from Crossroads scored their 2nd yesterday, the 3 previous goals conceded were due to total lack of midfield cover in front of the centre backs - 2 resulting in pens with 1 on 1's against our last defender or keeper.
This is down to us not having a defensive midfielder. If Wenger plays Flamini 1 more time it should result in gross misconduct charges. Not buying a proper DM over past few years shows us all we need to know about Wengers tactical ability.

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Originally Posted by selassie

Alpha, Maybe we saw different things yesterday but as already pointed out by NQ we were lucky to have 11 men on the field after Kos gave away the penalty, it was actually a red card offence as he was the last man standing.

We only had 1 shot on target all game, I am not sure how the referee's performance defined that but each to their own I suppose.

My frustration stems from the Summer, we didn't do the business we needed to do and it's clearly evident, not only in the big games but also in many other games this season. The money was there, Wenger didn't buy what we needed....AGAIN.

Basically nothing has changed, I see us going into this season with exactly the same flaws but hoping for a different outcome, in fact I would go as far as to say we have more flaws this season as Wenger has changed the formation of the team and to date we look a weaker side than we did last season.

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Selassie , my friend , we saw the same things but we express differently .I agree with everything you are saying but before their penalty Cahill should have seen a red card . That would have had a different outcome .
In a big game , any little detail counts and can change anything .
Soon after their penalty , Cazorla produced a perfect pass to Wilshere for an equaliser but a heavy touch let him down . Imagine if he could have made something better ....
We are all frustrated but the biggest mistake if refusing to buy a proper DM . We are paying for that . Our attacking players can not do their job properly because we don't have a solid platform of defense .

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Originally Posted by Munchies

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Fuck off Mesut

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Just hugging a manager he respects tbf - probably feels like he'd wished he joined Chelsea, like Fabregas. Apart from money, I don't really understand how any top player wanting success would sign for us with Wenger in charge.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Flamini and Wellbeck actions were frustrations to referee's attitude . They certainly deserved red cards . But before that we should have had a penalty and Cahill , Oscar and Ivanovic should have been off pitch long ago .

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Don't disagree. The ref was appalling. But his incompetence was impartial, he was just clueless not biased. Certainly if Cahill had been sent off it would have affected the game. But we shouldn't be relying on a red card to get results, we have the players to compete with anyone 11 vs 11. But we don't have the manager to do that unfortunately. My fear, even if Cahill rightly got his marching orders, is we'd still have lost. The team selection was stupid, the formation was stupid and the tactics were stupid. That was the real problem.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Selassie , my friend , we saw the same things but we express differently .I agree with everything you are saying but before their penalty Cahill should have seen a red card . That would have had a different outcome .
In a big game , any little detail counts and can change anything .
Soon after their penalty , Cazorla produced a perfect pass to Wilshere for an equaliser but a heavy touch let him down . Imagine if he could have made something better ....
We are all frustrated but the biggest mistake if refusing to buy a proper DM . We are paying for that . Our attacking players can not do their job properly because we don't have a solid platform of defense .

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Fair play.

I think the general consensus is we have a manager that doesn't know how to get the best out of this team and doesn't appear to know how to improve it.

The fact that he hasn't/didn't buy a DM or even an elite striker pretty much tells me all I need to know. I am done with him.

I generally believe things would be a lot better with someone a bit more tactically astute in charge of the current squad.