Good Bye RVP!

All this f***in shit started with Fabregas. I would've gone as far back as Anelka, but the club showed balls when it came to him. He wanted to go to Lazio, Lazio wanted him, but they acted like shitbags. Arsenal didn't sell him to Lazio, they sold to Real Madrid.

I'll ignore the Vieira and Henry sagas because it was down to the club in that instance. Those players were surplus to requirements, and the CLUB got rid.

When it came to Fabregas, he acted dishonourably while at the club, his Spanish and now Barcelona team-mates acted like right c*nts and we still gave in to a measly offer last season- to the very club acting like dicks. He was the first player we sold while at his peak since Anelka. Nasri left soon after, to a f***in Premiership club. I mean, what on earth kind of message does that send out?!

And now van Persie wants out. It was more of a 50/50 scenario is his case, because Wenger WAS patient with him while he was persistently injured and the club HAVE made big signings of international-level to try and placate RvP. Yet, after all this shit, he wants out, and Arsenal say we have to respect him. Respect? These modern players don't know the meaning of the word.

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Originally Posted by GB.

Lets just say you get the stats.

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I don't know where to get these types of stats from.

Bye bye hope you die cos you're a **** in the morning

:p

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

apart from the fact he has now made us accept any bid for him rather then get decent money. he asked for ambition, we gave him that. he was forced us to sell him at whatever bid comes in because he has made it clear he cannot stay at our club. ****

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We never showed ambition, even these two deals are to replace him. Don't fool yourself, we pat ourselves on the back for getting 4th place every year, that's the sum of our ambition and no top player is going to want to stick around for that.

It's funny how every top player we ever have wants to leave at some point and yet it's never the clubs fault.

I hope he gets his dick snapped off by the Hamburgler.

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Originally Posted by Joker

These are the goals I remember him scoring against the "top" sides (I include Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham in that list)

04-05:
Didn't score against any of the above.

05-06
Didn't score against any of the above.

06-07
Scored at home against United.

07-08
Didn't score against any of the above.

08-09
Scored at home against Liverpool, at home against United in the UCL semi final (pointless penalty).

09-10
Scored 2 at home against Tottenham.

10-11
Scored against Liverpool at home, against Tottenham away.

11-12

Scored against United home and away, a hattrick against Chelsea away, against Tottenham at home, and 2 goals against Liverpool away.

So, apart from last season, his scoring record against the best sides isn't anything to write home about.

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He scored two against Chelsea away in 08/09. It's a silly post because we know how often he has been injured. And anyway, they aren't the only teams we face in a season.

He's also a pedo rapist.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

He scored two against Chelsea away in 08/09. It's a silly post because we know how often he has been injured. And anyway, they aren't the only teams we face in a season.

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True I forgot about that. Yes we do play other teams, but surely a mark of a top player is scoring in the really important matches when it really matters? How many points has RVP actually won Arsenal over his career here? Scoring the second in a 6-2 loss against United is hardly a crucial contribution, and if you compare the points won by RVP relative to players like Rooney and Drogba, I'm sure he wouldn't look as good.

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Originally Posted by Joker

Fine, in the Premiership he's scored 13 goals against the top sides, and given that he's played 8 seasons, he'd have played at most 64 games. Obviously he hasn't played against all the top 4 sides in all seasons, so let's say he's missed 10 matches. Then his games:goal ratio is 4, which is hardly world class is it?

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depends how far back you want to stretch the title of world class.

last season? without doubt. who cares what he done 4 years ago, what relevance does it have.

find a new angle, then come back.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

depends how far back you want to stretch the title of world class.

last season? without doubt. who cares what he done 4 years ago, what relevance does it have.

find a new angle, then come back.

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You can't be a world class player if you've only performed consistently over one season. Players like Henry consistently performed brilliantly season in season out, which is why they deservedly got the label "world class". Same with Vieira, which is why I wasn't that irritated when he constantly looked like he wanted to leave to a big European club in the Summer. He had won us trophies and was a consistently top performer, and could understand that he was taking advantage of the options available to him.