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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
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Rapes pedos? Guess he's got some work to do in Manchester then...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Denying that RVP is not class is not fair at all . RVP is and will remain a top player . He stood by the team when we needed him . We have to respect him as he made his position clear and give the Board enough time to act . The ambition of the team has always been questioned . By the media , the fans , even in this forum voices have raised in that regard . Blaming RVP for his statement is just frustration as usual . let's replace him as soon as we can and move on .
Might as well revert back to our traditional 4-4-1-1 with Podolski behind Giroud/Walcott. Ox,Rozza,Song/Arteta and Gerv in midfield. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
ask any professional in the game that knows infinitely more when it comes to judging and see what their response will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
stats:
Chelsea: 5 in 12
Liverpool: 4 in 8
Tottenham: 5 in 12
Man Utd: 3 in 9
if you judge any player on stats without taking into consideration the performance of the rest of the team, then you have absolutely no idea about how a team game works.
He had to make a statement otherwise the smear campaign would have been on. The club tried to pull some BS during the Euros suggesting he wanted Man City money but he couldn't fight back. His Dad had to step in to rubbish the claims. We all knew from when Cesc left that RVP wasn't going to sign a new contract. You could see he lost faith in Wenger when he made one of the dumbest subs he's ever made with Ox coming off for Arshavin. We all know the club isn't going in the right direction and this just confirms that point again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Well scoring a goal doesn't make the rest of the team defend worse. I can think of numerous games in the last two seasons (when unquestionably he has been at his best for us) and scored goals to get us back in to the game...which we go on to lose. You know like the equaliser against Man Utd or the equaliser in the Carling Cup final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
However he did score the winning goal more than any other player last season, a season when he was able to sustain himself throughout it.
I’m finding it hard to be annoyed at either party right now. And I understand if other gooners are annoyed with Van Persie. IMO his statement is bullshit. We’ve brought in two excellent goalscorers to reduce the burden on Robin. But, again, I’m not annoyed with him about that.
But lets get one thing straight - he is a top player right now. Absolutely phenomenal. This ‘a good 18 months out of 8 years’ thing could be used to argue against his loyalty but the last 18 months is the level of footballer he is. Do I think he’ll have another season like the last one? Probably not. But he’ll still be top notch because we’re not talking about his form, we’re talking about ability.
It’s very damaging for the club to lose him. I’m trying not to get annoyed about it - but the one thing that is a little ****ish of Van Persie is to release this statement and make his position clear. Transparency might be seen as a good thing for us fans desperate to know what’s going on but it really doesn’t help the club in negotiations at all.
Gutted!!! Yes he has a right to decide where he plays, its just sad that he has chosen not to repay the faith we showed in him. I hear alot of people talking about ' he needs a team doin this n doing that, arsenal don't deserve him as he is world class. In eight years he has played no more than 2 & 1/2 yrs worth of games. He is part of the reason we are trophyless for that long! He gets healthy then wants to have a zen moment? It was only 3 seasons ago some on here were calling for him to be sold because he wasn't carying his weight as he was always out injured. He finally puts a shift in then he wants out cuz we lack ambition? Farewell world class RVP, I hope you find what you are looking for.
Hes world class. NO doubt about it. You cant compare him with Vieira or Henry as he was injured a lot more than them. Henry is also probably the greatest player to play in the PL and Vieira not far behind. I dont think many people are interested in your stats and how he did against certain teams.Ask anyone - even fans of other clubs - and they will all say he is a world class striker. Thats all there is to it.And for the third season in a r row we have lost a world class player and are now a bit of an embarrassment i reckon.
QUOTE=Joker;162029]You can't be a world class player if you've only performed consistently over one season. Players like Henry consistently performed brilliantly season in season out, which is why they deservedly got the label "world class". Same with Vieira, which is why I wasn't that irritated when he constantly looked like he wanted to leave to a big European club in the Summer. He had won us trophies and was a consistently top performer, and could understand that he was taking advantage of the options available to him.[/QUOTE]
I cannot see why people would be surprised at this. Maybe the timing and manner, I guess. Not the nature. It looked very clear for a long time. Even if we take his position regarding ambition :bow: as totally honest, 28 going on 29 is a very awkward stage for a contract. Even if the ambition wasn't a problem, the player still wants a long deal and a shitload of money. Three years (can't see us having offered more than that)? Meh. City and the Juve mafia can give him more.
But yeah, he's just done a massive public shit on the club...of course he's going to be sold. The blame game's a bit tiresome by now. City looks the smart bet.